Greg Cosell, Doug Farrar concerned about Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota

It's critique-the-quarterback day for Greg Cosell, apparently, because he's got more thoughts on the top quarterbacks in the 2015 NFL draft.

Greg Cosell and Doug Farrar talked about Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota and other draftable quarterbacks on Farrar's podcast. And as per usual, there were a bunch of insightful comments there. I'm not transcribing this, because there's just so much of it. It'd take me ages, and I don't have the energy right now. Sorry. But I will give you some highlights, and then you can listen to the whole thing below.

- Farrar highlighted Winston's arm strengths, but compared his mechanics to Jay Cutler's. That's not a good thin.

- Cosell repeated his criticism of Winston, and his previous praise: that he has a strong arm, that he's a natural anticipation thrower, and that he's oblivious to pressure. Also that he didn't master his offense, that he didn't play like  he consistently understood his offense, and that he was erratic with his accuracy.

- Doug Farrar added that Winston seemed like a quarterback who thinks "I cant fit the ball in there" a lot, which leads to overly risky throws and generally isn't fixed in the NFL.

- Cosell and Farrar mentioned that Mariota was a very quick-twitch athlete, while Winston is much more deiberate (read: slow) in his movements.

- Cosell and Farrar talked about not seeing Mariota display the traits they think project to the NFL. He didn't have to make tight-window throws, he didn't have to go through NFL-style dropbacks, he didn't need to have great pocket awareness, he didn't need to make many anticipation throws. They didn't see that on film. And that makes for a very uncertain projection.

- Farrar notes that Mariota doesn't adjust to mistakes or timing differences with his receivers, as in: if receivers are redirected or bumped off their route, he has trouble finding them again.

- Cosell did note that Mariota has a lot of the skillset you look for in a quarterback. It's just hard to project him.

- They also talked about the projection of spread and running quarterbacks to the NFL, which is pretty interesting.