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Going Over the 2005 Buccaneers Draft

When I decided to look at drafts, I did expect to run into other articles that focused on our previous drafts. What I didn’t know was that our own Sander did a run of articles in 2011 about each draft. Here is his article for 2005. Although he point out a few good details, I will only be using it for our needs for that year.

After a terrible 2004 season, the Buccaneers ended up with the 5th pick in the NFL draft. Our offense was terrible and our defense was getting older and hollow. For the offense, we needed a running back due to our long run with Michael Pittman. We also needed part of our offensive line refurbished. We did need a TE but we signed Anthony Becht from the Jets. We also resigned Joey Galloway and Jameel Cook to help restart this offense.

For the defense, we were starting to lose our depth and needed some across the board. We signed Chris Hovan to sure up our NT on the defensive line and resigned Dexter Jackson as our FS. Greg Spires, Simeon Rice, and Shelton Quarles were all on the wrong side of 30. In all, we had a lot of little holes but none as massive as the offense.

1st Round

With our needs coming in as RB, OL, DT, DE, MLB and Depth, we didn’t have that many holes. Also, we had picks in every round so we could fill them all up. Or so you’d think.

With the 5th pick in the 2005 NFL Draft, we selected Carnell "Cadillac" Williams. Although he wasn’t as fast as Ronnie Brown or as big as Cedric Benson, he was very agile. He came off a college season where the Auburn Tigers won all of their games and he got All-American honors. In essence, he was the pick we needed.

Rd Pck Pos F. Name L. Name Drafted Team College H W 40Yd 20Yd 10Yd Bench Vert Broad 20SS 3Cone
1 2 RB Ronnie Brown Miami Dolphins Auburn 73 233 4.43 2.63 1.50 18 34.0 117 4.14 7.12
1 4 RB Cedric Benson Chicago Bears Texas 71 222 4.62 21 33.0 4.30 7.50
1 5 RB Carnell Williams Tampa Bay Buccaneers Auburn 71 217 4.43 2.61 1.58 19 35.5 118 4.17 6.95
3 65 RB Frank Gore San Francisco 49ers Miami 70 210 4.58 34.0 109 4.11 6.91
4 109 RB Marion Barber III Dallas Cowboys Minnesota 72 221 4.49 20 40.0 127 4.17
4 110 RB Brandon Jacobs New York Giants Southern Illinois 76 267 4.56 2.72 1.69 19 37.0 118 4.49 7.54
4 130 RB Darren Sproles San Diego Chargers Kansas State 66 187 4.47 2.62 1.55 23 33.0 105 3.96 6.96

If we really wanted to look deeper into our needs, we could’ve drafted for defense. DeMarcus Ware turned out to be a great 3-4 OLB. But I like Derrick Johnson. He was the fastest MLB in the draft and had a nack for finding the running back. We also had the option of drafting a Tackle to take over for Kenyatta Walker. Jammal Brown and Alex Barron were both big bodied Tackles that liked to push people around.

2nd Round

As the first round came to an end, we still had needs from protecting the Chris Simms to getting rid of the retirement squad. With the 36th pick we decided to draft Barrett Ruud. Coming out of Nebraska, he was a highly decorated linebacker and a tackling machine. He was the 2nd best MLB in the draft behind Derrick Johnson.

Rd Pck Pos F. Name L. Name Drafted Team College H W 40Yd 20Yd 10Yd Bench Vert Broad 20SS 3Cone
1 15 ILB Derrick Johnson Kansas City Chiefs Texas 75 242 4.52 2.66 1.61 37.5 120 3.93 7.21
2 36 ILB Barrett Ruud Tampa Bay Buccaneers Nebraska 75 241 4.73 2.73 1.62 25 34.5 112 4.00 7.22
2 42 OLB Kevin Burnett Dallas Cowboys Tennessee 75 235 4.58 21 36.0 130
2 45 ILB Lofa Tatupu Seattle Seahawks USC 73 238 4.83 2.78 1.63 23 35.0 113 4.21 7.32

He fit the need for middle linebacker. He had a fast 10 and 20 yard split with the ability to move his hips well. The issue for him was that his top end speed was lacking which caused him to play off the line more than he should have. The next MLB up was Lofa Tatupu. He turned into a Pro Bowl linebacker but based off his numbers, he wasn’t as athletic as Ruud.

When it comes to other possible choices, we had a few to pick from. Michael Roos was one of the biggest OT coming into the draft. Although he was a little slow, his agility made him a great pass protector. I also see that Kevin Burnett was available. He was one of the faster OLB’s in the draft. Also undersized, he could have fit well as a middle linebacker.

3rd Round

When it comes to needs, this seems to be the round where we jump off the track. And with this draft, it wasn’t any different. Instead of getting a DE, DT, OL, or depth, we decided to draft TE Alex Smith out of Stanford. He was the 2nd best TE in college football in 2004 and has a few awards throughout his college career. Considering he doesn’t have much data when it comes to the Combine and Pro Day, I can’t compare him to the other TE’s.

Rd Pck Pos F. Name L. Name Drafted Team College H W 40Yd 20Yd 10Yd Bench Vert Broad 20SS 3Cone
1 30 TE Heath Miller Pittsburgh Steelers Virginia 77 256
3 71 TE Alex Smith Tampa Bay Buccaneers Stanford 76 258 4.75 28
6 179 TE Bo Scaife Tennessee Titans Texas 75 249 4.75 2.79 1.66 24 32.5 114 4.14 7.21

With this pick, we did have good options. Three choices after Smith, Justin Tuck was picked up by the Giants. He wasn’t the fasted guy at his position but when you take into consideration his mass and height, he was the fastest. His agility was average but his vertical showed he was athletic enough. They also had a choice between guards Evan Mathis and Richie Incognito. Evan Mathis was undersized but his athletic ability showed he was the best guard in the draft. Richie Incognito was the 3rd based on his numbers but wasn’t as good as Mathis.

We also had a second 3rd round pick in this draft. Turns out we decided to jump back on the need’s train and draft OT Chris Colmer. Coming out of North Carolina State, he had questions about his health and missed a whole season due to it. Not only was he one of the lightest OT’s in the draft, but he was also one of the slowest. When you mix those two into an OT, they usually don’t last long.

Rd Pck Pos F. Name L. Name Drafted Team College H W 40Yd 20Yd 10Yd Bench Vert Broad 20SS 3Cone
3 91 OT Chris Colmer Tampa Bay Buccaneers NC State 77 310 5.19 29 29.0 105 4.62 7.58
3 100 OT Nick Kaczur New England Patriots Toledo 77 319 5.28 3.03 1.85 22 31.5 103 4.76 7.69
4 113 OT David Stewart Tennessee Titans Mississippi State 79 314 28 34.0 105

From these numbers, you can’t tell how Colmer was compared to Kaczur. But if you look closely, you can see Kaczur’s vertical is 2.5 inches higher. That usually coincides with a faster jump off the line. Considering that Kaczur was also 9 pounds heavier, it would let him get more punch off the line and keep DE’s off the QB. Nick Kaczur was the only other option we had based off needs that would have fit. As a side note, Kyle Orton was taken a few picks later.

4th Round

In the beginning of the 4th round, we decided to take G Dan Buenning from Wisconsin. In Wisconsin, he won the First-team All-Big Ten award in 2004 and was a second-team All-American. He had great work on tape but his combine scores lacked. He was average weight but was the slowest in the 10 yard dash and vertical jump.

Rd Pck Pos F. Name L. Name Drafted Team College H W 40Yd 20Yd 10Yd Bench Vert Broad 20SS 3Cone
1 32 G Logan Mankins New England Patriots Fresno State 76 307 5.06 3.00 1.85 21 31.5 95 4.45 7.54
3 79 G Evan Mathis Carolina Panthers Alabama 77 304 4.92 2.87 1.66 35 35.5 117 4.16 7.39
4 107 G Dan Buenning Tampa Bay Buccaneers Wisconsin 76 320 5.35 3.13 1.92 29 29.0 111 4.64 7.93
6 204 G Chris Kemoeatu Pittsburgh Steelers Utah 76 344 5.34 3.10 1.87 31 29.0 98 4.57 7.75
7 246 G Will Whitticker Green Bay Packers Michigan State 77 336 5.35 29 29.5 97 4.75 7.90

Take a look at two of the heaviest Guards in the draft. Both went on to play over 50% of their snaps in their respected careers. Notice that Kemoeatu has 24 pounds on Buenning but can run fast than him, is stronger than him, and better agility. Also notice how Whitticker has 16 pounds on Buenning but ran the same speed, had similar strength and agility.

For other options, we needed a DE, DT, C, and depth. Off the bat, I see centers Eric Ghiaciuc and Jason Brown. Eric Ghiaciuc had the best 10 yard dash and agility with awards to back him from the MAC. I also see DE’s Brady Poppinga and Chris Canty. Chris Canty didn’t participate due to injury and Brady Poppinga’s numbers didn’t shine that much. However, I have to mention we missed out on Marion Barber and Darren Sproles. Sproles had the best agility out of any running back in the draft and Barber had the best vertical, broad jump, and a shuttle time that was the same as Carnell Williams while being the bigger back.

5th Round

Going back off the beaten path, we decided to select Donte Nicholson from Oklahoma with the 141st pick. He just came off winning First-team All-Big 12 award for safety. He was drafted to back up Jermaine Phillips. Sadly, he looked like Tarzan but played like Jane. He was slow and very stiff in the hips. In the end, he wasn’t worth the pick.

Rd Pck Pos F. Name L. Name Drafted Team College H W 40Yd 20Yd 10Yd Bench Vert Broad 20SS 3Cone
5 141 SS Donte Nicholson Tampa Bay Buccaneers Oklahoma 73 209 4.55 18 34.0 123 4.25 7.23
5 157 FS Gerald Sensabaugh Jacksonville Jaguars North Carolina 73 214 4.44 2.60 1.55 17 46.0 133 3.98 6.80
6 181 FS Chris Harris Chicago Bears Louisiana-Monroe 73 212 4.57 11 36.0 125 4.06 6.98
6 188 SS C.C. Brown Houston Texans Louisiana-Lafayette 72 208 4.52 35.0 128 4.30 7.02

Although he was a FS, Gerald Sensabaugh would have fit better than Nicholson. He was heavier, faster, could jump higher, and was more agile. The only other player worth it before our next pick was Trent Cole. Due to his size, I wouldn’t have picked him.

Our next pick in the 5th round was Larry Brackins from Pearl River Community College. It’s funny that right now I am listening to "What Was I Thinkin" by Dierks Bently because that’s what I’d ask the Bucs. He did win multiple awards for being the best WR in NJCAA and MACJC. If you don’t know what those are, they are acronyms for junior college football. I had to look it up. Based on his scouting numbers, he was one of the slowest, least agile, and couldn’t jump that high.

Rd Pck Pos F. Name L. Name Drafted Team College H W 40Yd 20Yd 10Yd Bench Vert Broad 20SS 3Cone
1 10 WR Mike Williams Detroit Lions USC 77 229 4.56 2.70 1.66 38.5 123 4.23 6.95
2 61 WR Vincent Jackson San Diego Chargers Northern Colorado 77 241 4.46 2.63 1.57 23 39.0 129 4.00 6.84
5 155 WR Larry Brackins Tampa Bay Buccaneers Pearl River CC 77 205 4.55 2.72 1.63 35.5 115 4.44 7.16

Compared to our very own Vincent Jackson, you can see that Jackson is the same height but weighed 36 pounds more. Yet, he beat him in every category. He never did play a snap in the NFL.

For our needs at DE, DT, C, and depth, OLB Michael Boley stuck out to me. He was one of the fastest OLB’s in the draft and could get off the line fairly fast for his size. He could also jump high and his agility was one of the best. Other than him, there weren’t that many eye catching players.

6th Round

In the 6th round, we decided to pick DT Anthony Bryant out of Alabama. The biggest defensive lineman that the Buccaneers have drafted going back to 2000, I assume we wanted him to play NT. When you see a guy that big, you’d think he would be strong but slow. Based on his numbers, he was fairly fast for his size but one of the weakest DT’s in the draft.

Rd Pck Pos F. Name L. Name Drafted Team College H W 40Yd 20Yd 10Yd Bench Vert Broad 20SS 3Cone
6 178 DT Anthony Bryant Tampa Bay Buccaneers Alabama 75 335 4.98 2.97 1.81 23 31.5 106 4.72 7.80
6 189 DT Jovan Haye Carolina Panthers Vanderbilt 74 284 4.74 2.80 1.69 33 34.0 110 4.38 7.40
6 191 DT C.J. Mosley Minnesota Vikings Missouri 74 312 5.07 2.96 1.79 27 27.5 100 4.65 8.21
7 216 DT Kevin Vickerson Miami Dolphins Michigan State 77 301 4.96 2.90 1.79 20 32.5 108 4.60 7.58
7 224 DT Jay Ratliff Dallas Cowboys Auburn 76 292 4.85 26 33.5 117 4.23 7.35

Our other option could have been Jovan Haye. He was smaller but extremely fast, strong and agile. That’s probably why we signed him later on in his career. Our other options consisted of DT C.J. Mosely, DT Kevin Vickerson, C Chris Myers, G Chris Kemoeatu, and Derek Anderson. Each player had faults but also performed well compared to their peers based on the numbers.

7th Round

In the 7th round, we had an unheard of 4 picks. We decided to choose FB Rick Razzano, WR Paris Warren, SS Hamza Abdullah, and WR J.R. Russell. Only Hamza Abdullah fit our needs and the other three make me question what the Buccaneers were thinking.

With Rick Razzano, we chose the slowest but most agile fullback. In looking at all of the draft info that I have, that makes for a terrible blocking fullback. Madison Hedgecock was 21 pounds heavier with the same speed and similar agility. He did just fine blocking for Steven Jackson.

With Paris Warren, we drafted the slowest WR in the draft. At 4.68 seconds, that also rivals Michael Clayton’s 40 times. He also was one of the least agile WR in the draft. Considering there were only 3 WR taken after him, there were no other options for WR.

With Hamza Abdullah, we got one an average speed SS who was terrible at the 10 and 20 yard runs. What he did have was that he could jump high and change direction very quickly. Although he didn’t catch on here, he has played well elsewhere.

Between these players, there were multiple people who coincided with our needs that could’ve been picked. After Razzano, DT Jay Ratliff was chosen. He was undersized at 292 pounds but could run fast and have the best agility numbers out of all the DT’s taken in the draft. I don’t know how so many people decided not to choose him. After Warren, Matt Cassel was taken. I know you can’t base a QB off his number so I won’t even try. After Abdullah, there were a few players taken like Jonathan Fanene, Will Whitticker, who was mentioned earlier, and Ryan Fitzpatrick.

With the third to the last pick we got a decent WR in J.R. Russell. He was on the slower side with his 40 time and he couldn’t jump high but he could get off the line like the best of the WR in the draft and was pretty fast changing directions. Although he never got to play a down in the NFL, he was the best WR taken by the Buccaneers in this draft.

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