Butch Davis to be Senior Defensive Assistant with Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by Sander on Feb 9, 2012 7:08 PM EST
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PrintAccording to Alex Marvez of Fox Sports (who seems to get all the breaking coaching stories now) the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will hire Butch Davis as a Senior Defensive Assistant. Davis is best known as the head coach at the University of Miami in the late '90s and was most recently the head coach for the University of North Carolina. He has also served as an NFL head coach for the Cleveland Browns as well as an NFL defensive coordinator for the 1993 and 1994 Dallas Cowboys.
This comes just a day after the Bucs hired Jimmy Raye II as a Senior Offensive Assistant - again reported by Alex Marvez. Assuming these new titles aren't just different ways of spelling "coordinator", the Bucs don't actually seem to be skimping on their coaching hires, despite some reports on their frugal ways. Hiring a former head coach and a former long-time coordinator as "senior assistants" can't be cheap - if the team is also hiring coordinators, which isn't a given.
One question that does arise from all of this: if Davis and Raye aren't the coordinators - what, exactly, will they be doing?
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I think this is a good thing.
Two vets who can help groom a young Coach into a good coordinator. Now just go find young coordinators with potential.
by Bucsfan123 on Feb 9, 2012 7:21 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
He took the job as a assistant?
Why would he do that? Dont get me wrong, I like butch, but wow!!!!!
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by Bucfan on Feb 9, 2012 8:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Senior defensive assistant means what exactly?
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by 4QB on Feb 9, 2012 8:36 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Unless somehow this really means he has final say over the DC, which makes him senior DC
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by 4QB on Feb 9, 2012 8:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
If he takes another coaching job he won't get 2.7 mil from North Carolina.
he is the DC
by bucswillwin on Feb 10, 2012 5:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He Pulls Out
Then I am convinced it’s management screwing with coaches because they’re a lot of people who just turn there head to this team nothing is guaranteed these days
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We'll played Glazernik
This is a plus, I’m wondering who’ll be under him being groomed to take over before he decides to split. Superb hire by the Glazernik.
by GoBuxGo on Feb 9, 2012 8:38 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
NOT FINALIZED!
just to remind you guys this is still not final, He very well could pull out just like the last 5 guys did..
Huh?
What do these bizarre positions do?
by aakks on Feb 9, 2012 8:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
@Sander- for some reason, I can't see this on the FP when on computer but works just fine on Android app.
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Ok, I got it now
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Maserati crashing, swerving through the traffic
Wrap it 'round a pole, sell a mil off the tragedy
I defy gravity "
by 4QB on Feb 9, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
I was really hoping we would hire Davis.
I thought it would be as coordinator, but then again he might have the coordinators duties. I have read most of the articles about this and no one knows what it is exactly that he will be doing.
by Mattw313 on Feb 9, 2012 9:39 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Sounds like
They will be coaches, directly under the HC but above the coordinator, that will use their experience to make sure everything goes smooth on their side of the ball. Sounds like they want to pick up some young hotshots for coordinators, but still want the experience to be there.
All of this is just a guess of course.
The glazers are a joke at this point. They are too cheap to buy out the 1.7 mill to allow butch to coach again.
This is disgraceful.
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McNulty
Maybe this title is a ploy to hire McNulty as senior offensive consultant as to not be a lateral move and can’t be blocked.
by touw_22 on Feb 9, 2012 10:52 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Except Mcnulty wants to be OC, and as an offensive "assistant " you can't really "call" plays during gameday.
Which I’m practically sure that Schiano doesn’t want to handle.
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by 4QB on Feb 10, 2012 12:23 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I imagine they would be there normally like any other coach during camps and gameplanning.
May get to sit up in the booth during games though.
This could explain...
why a lot of these coaches have been pulling out (if these positions have final say over the OC and DC). Most of these coaches want the O or D to themselves and take the Coordinator position because they run their systems how they want to. In saying that, I actually believe these are good hires (Butch Davis more so than Jimmy Raye) so that our new young HC doesn’t become too overwhelmed (like Morris was)….that way he can focus on being a HC more than Coordinating. I’d assume these two “phantom positions” will over see their respected specialties (O and D) and report to Schiano what they are seeing and possible ideas of improvement. Just an assumption
Does NFL have a
Max number of coaches?
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by MNeilson on Feb 10, 2012 7:47 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Why a defensive assistant
What importance does he play on a staff? Why hire Butch for this position, when you dont have a DC? I’m very optimistic about the reasoning by this hire. Does anyone have any insight on this situation?
by keysersoze19 on Feb 10, 2012 9:06 AM EST via Android app reply actions
One of the possible benefits to this
Is that it allows Schiano to try and draw a DC from the Butch Davis coaching tree, rather than going through Schiano’s limited coaching tree or bringing in a random guy. If Schiano is willing to take Davis’ “vouch” on a coach for DC, that could pave the way for yet another coach we didn’t know was being targeted to join us lol.
I actually don’t mind this hire. It can allow a young defensive assistant to become the DC, without the automatic lack of experience being a problem since they can get help, advice and mentoring from Davis.
Good insight KRoa
Do you know any coaches that are connected with davis that would be any option. That would probably work for offense to right
by keysersoze19 on Feb 10, 2012 10:42 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I would assume it would also apply on the offensive end.
Jimmy Raye has been around the league for many years and has a good track record. Maybe not as a coordinator, although I’m not sure the debacle that happened with the Niners offense under Mike Singletary should automatically be placed upon Raye’s shoulders.
I’m afraid I don’t know a whole lot about the college ranks, so I don’t know who is in Butch Davis’ coaching tree. I really only follow the NFL, and most of what I see in college revolves around potential draftees lol.
What I do know is hiring Raye and Davis opens up the number of possible candidates we could bring in, meaning even a first-time coordinator wouldn’t be a poor pickup because there is someone there they can go to who has been there and done it, preventing inexperience from being a significant problem.
Thats what's up
This info helps me understand the hire a lot more.
by keysersoze19 on Feb 10, 2012 8:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
And we've now hired a first-time Offensive Coordinator
From the Giants. Raye on the staff should mean there’s still plenty of experience on the offensive side, even if the new OC is the one responsible for designing, implementing and calling the plays.
but we got a gem
We got a guy that has worked with some of the best erceivers and QB in the league. Plus he has a veteran mentor! Win-Win.
Oh I'm not knocking the hire at all.
I think it’s a great pickup for us. I’m just saying that having a senior assistant on the staff to work with the coordinators means that the risk inherent in hiring a first-time coordinator isn’t as large as it would normally be.
I was concerned at first
about what was going to pan out in terms of coaches/assitants/coordinators. But now I’m starting to see a pretty good pattern with Schianos hires. I like the direction we are headed in. I initially wanted Butch to be DC but like the idea of a veteran assitant to help a possible young rising star coordinator take off. Go Bucs!!!!!!
Wasn't sure about this
But it doesn’t sound too bad. Not sure if we will still get a OC/DC. Like CLE for example has both coordinators and senior assistants while NE only has senior assistants. We could still sign a coordinator or not, will be interesting to watch either way.
I hope
We atleast get an OC, DC we can slide on since our HC is a defensive minded coach and with Butch on staff could manage.
I'm a little, or a lot confused...
With a head coach who has an Offense assistant & a Defense assistant and hopefully an OC and a DC…will they have assistants too? Then there’s position coaches who I’m just guessing will also have assistants also. Seems like that will be quite a staff. Certainly there will be a lot of coaching going on and almost every player will be greatly assisted. Right?
by Chengdu Buc on Feb 10, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
In theory yes
This is a more hands on approach to coaching than what we are used to. So there will be position coaches with assistants. To my understanding the main position coach coaches the startes, the assistant helps with other duties and the backups, practice squad. And this repeats on up the chain. FAR more hands on then any previous regime in last 15-20 years. Good for the players, good for the fans.
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