Todd McShay 2012 NFL Mock Draft - Morris Claiborne
by Sander on Feb 3, 2012 2:57 PM EST
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PrintTodd McShay's second mock draft of the year is out, and he has the Tampa Bay Buccaneers picking cornerback Morris Claiborne of LSU over WR Justin Blackmon and RB Trent Richardson. So with those two still available, why did Claiborne fall? Because he has the Minnesota Vikings picking T Riley Reiff out of Iowa.
Current Buccaneers RB LeGarrette Blount is no Trent Richardson, so dont't rule out Alabama's bell-cow back as an option here. Tampa Bay's cornerback situation is a nightmare, though, with Ronde Barber on the decline and Aqib Talib facing off-field issues. Claiborne would bring to Tampa the best man-to-man cover skills in the 2012 class, along with good speed and instincts.
And once again, the running back vs cornerback debate rears its ugly head. I tire of talking about this. It gets boring and everything that's been said on the subject has been said. Running backs can be had later in the draft, and their short shelf life doesn't make them worthy of a high first-round pick. At the same time, Trent Richardson does look pretty special and the Bucs need to add some kind of change of pace back for Legarrette Blount.
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Please bring Mo Claiborne to Tampa!!
by flash_kiley on Feb 3, 2012 3:08 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Blackmon
Why no discussion on Blackmon? Doesn’t he look like the can’t miss receiver I wanted in Calvin Johnson year ago? I think he is a more interesting prospect to measure up against Claiborne. I would personally take both of them over Richardson.
Maybe no CJ
But he looks like he won’t let down the team that drafts him. I still want Claiborne over both, dont get me wrong, but I just think like Sander said, a running back can be had later in the draft. I just think Blackmon is that much better than the receivers we could get in later round…
I hate this debate about RB/CB...
only because tons and tons of statistics dries everything out. The impact the particular player will have, on a particular team, is the fulcrum that should decide your choice. I like Claiborne. He is head-and-shoulders above the 2nd best CB prospect. I do hope we select him, but IF he is gone and IF we cannot find a trading partner, I think that Trent Richardson would benefit our particular team MORE than the #2 CB prospect would.
My 2 cents…
Well the only CB close is Kirkpatrick and we aren't picking him #5 after his arrest
So if claiborne is gone the debate is really Richardson vs Blackmon vs Martin/Reiff imo.
Lord I hope we don't...
after hearing Sciano, and supposedly what he stands for, I would say Kirkpatrick is slim/none.
Im pretty sure if we wanted to trade down someone out their will be willing to do so
Plus this is a strong draft class so regardless we will fill some of those gaps, by drafting down we could pick up a good ILB, CB, maybe a a good OT too. Pick up a RB/WR in the FA also a OLB too to bring a vet. experence there too.
by TbBUcSfAn4LiFe on Feb 3, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Unless RG3 magically falls to #5
Trading down will be nearly impossible to do. Teams willing to trade up into the top of the draft are rare because of the number of picks it typically costs. Teams are even less likely to do it when there’s not a probable franchise QB available to trade up for.
Exact why we should think about who to take...
if Morris Clayborne is gone. I doubt we can make that trade. It happens BEFORE pick 5.
If Claiborne is gone
I would take Kalil if he’s still there, and maybe Reiff if he’s not. Blackmon is an option, but he’s very similar to what we already have on our team. I don’t consider Richardson to be an option at #5. I just think that’s about 10 picks or so early for a RB to be taken in today’s NFL, where the vast majority of teams run with a committee to reduce wear and tear on a back. This isn’t the era of the workhorse RB anymore.
I would have to disagree
I think Blackmon is that good. Look at how he has progressed throughout his college years. He is a special player. However, in my personal belief, I believe we need Trent here. I think he is one of those players that you do not pass up on.
But, Im just a fan, so what the hell do I know?
If I could wear a bucs shirt with a noles hat for the rest of my life, by golly I would be the happiest man in the world.
Blackmon isn't close to the physical beast Calvin Johnson is
He’s slower and smaller. No comparison.
Blackmon I equate to Mike Williams...
and we need a big speed, or size/speed player outside for Freeman. Gotta open this field up and none of our guys really fill that role. Either one of those ARK WR burners will do nicely, or sign F/A Robert Meacham/Pierre Garcon.
You equate Blackmon to a Hall of Famer?
Yeah, because that’s something that should be tossed around lol.
I see Blackmon a lot like maybe Michael Crabtree. He can be productive, especially in the right system, and has a lot of talent, but is probably not an elite WR.
No chances are he will be an elite
Bettter than a 50% chance he will be and elite WR. Thus his projected draft status
Projected draft status means little.
If it did, Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown and Cedric Benson would be Hall of Famers. So would Charles Rogers and the host of other WRs the Lions picked over the years.
Blackmon’s skillset is similar to Crabtree’s, which is why I equate the two.
Not So much
Blackmon would be more of the same. We have some pretty good receiver talent. I think they weren’t utilized the way they could’ve been. That’s a position that may be better addressed in later rounds and free agency. The guys we had on the practice squad and IR should be looked once again as well. We should get rid of Stroughter and Spurlock and pick a couple WRs to take their places.
We really just need a good burner imo
Blackmon isn’t a burner, but would still be the best receiver we’ve got if we took him. He’s like a better version of Mike Williams.
Anyone have an idea of who?
I see us going Claiborne, then a LB in the second to replace Geno (and/or move Foster outside) just as most mocks do. I just don’t know how much quality well get in the 3rd, 4th, or 5th when we finally take a receiver.
Not to be an antagonist but I don’t know who we could target for that description.
Out or ARKANSAS
Joe Adams is pretty fast, but small WR.
i saw him in the east west shrine game...
looked pretty good
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Wright wont be there,
But Sanu might. Heck of a blocker and played for Schiano.
Also I wouldn't get hung up on linebacker in the 2nd
We should be looking for a slipping first rounder there imo. Wright would fit that. So would Zach Brown, Peter Konz, Mike Adams, and a few others.
Somebody ALWAYS slides...
so I believe there will be a terrific value waiting for us in Round 2. Just have to be open to taking him and not get all hung up on falling in love with a certain player.
Especially with one of the higher picks in the 2nd round.
The problem with players falling to the 2nd now is with the current draft format. Now teams have 24 hours to re-evaluate their draft boards before the 2nd round starts, which is awesome for someone who has the first pick in that round, not so much for someone with the fifth lol.
I preferred the Draft to old way it was run...
as now it is a money-making spectacle. NFL is a money whore.
We choose early enough to select someone of real quality that can help us right away. If we were smart, they would address the trenches with a C, OG or RT. I hope we can sign one interior lineman via F/A and focus on the DEF.
I prefer the old Draft system as well,
But I don’t think we’ll be able to put that particular genie back in the bottle lol.
5th pick in the 2nd round should be able to net us someone with pretty good talent.
There’s also the chance we package that pick with say, a 4th this year and 4th next year to get back into the bottom of the 1st round and pick someone who’s sliding….preferably a top o-line talent.
you know we can look at as many WR's we want but until our OFF/line blocks better
were in trouble so why take a WR. We have good WR’s just need to block better for Josh Freeman so he can get them the ball. You have to start from the core Which first QB than a line to block hm than RB / than WRS
by TbBUcSfAn4LiFe on Feb 3, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
so if we get any thing out the draft dealing with offensive it better be either a RB or a OT
by TbBUcSfAn4LiFe on Feb 3, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
I would agree with that
Assuming we wait till a mid-round pick to grab a RB, like perhaps LaMichael James in the early 3rd round. If we can grab an OT or OG in the 2nd round, I’d be thrilled.
I agree
But at the same time he’s only 6’1 Not the explosive
Calvin Johnson is a freak athletically...
like Andre Johnson of HOU. Can out-run, out-jump and out-muscle basically any CB he comes up against. Basically impossible to defend alone. Blackmon has been productive in college, but so was Michael Crabtree.
seems more of a possesion WR to me,
im tierd of dinking and dunking. We need a game changer and imo he is not. I am just tired of the same ol posession WRs we have every year.
Would much rather go after a FA WR...
… on top of finding ways to get Benn more involved in the offense. Coupled with (hopefully) a rejuvenated Mike Williams and the decent talent we have in the slot, I honestly don’t believe WR is our biggest need going into the draft. Claiborne is my guy, followed by trading down for additional secondary and/or O-line talent.
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I like this idea
But will management? (fingers crossed) I know they want to spend this year, but will it happen? You’re right that there are very many wr’s that would look nice in pewter and red this season.
They don't even need to break the bank for a solid WR
Just hope they watch they same film we do and see that, hey, we do have the talent, let’s figure out how to maximize it. And I strongly believe we do. Sure, we can add a piece or two, if for no other reason than competition, but WR is so far down my list of needs. A guy like Blackmon is a “nice have,” not a “must have” at this point.
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True he is a "nice have"
But I wouldn’t put receiving that low on the list, it’s been quite uninspiring this season. CB, LB, right tackle, left guard, safety, RB all could use upgrades in addition to wr.
WR is clearly not our biggest need...
In fact, I place it behind our CB, LB, OL and RB needs. Would be nice though (if we weren’t so full of holes).
I agree 100%
We’re already loaded with young WR’s and IMO bringing Blackmon in and expecting a big year out of him is wishful thing. History has shown over and over that WR’s routinely take a couple years to develop, Green and Jones were exceptions to the rule; for that reason I think we need to add a proven vet to that position and not another youngster. I personally think we should make Vincent Jackson an offer he can’t refuse; he depands atentions from the defense and isn’t just a “go deep” 1 trick poiny like Desean Jackson.
IMO we should take Morris if he’s available at 5, that’s a no brainer; if he’s not available trade back “if we can”. And if Morris is gone and we can’t trade back then and only then should take Trent Richardson. As much as I hate the Idea of taking RB’s in the 1st round I Trent and LeGarrett would be scary for opposing defenders.
What I hope happens in the draft is we take Morris in 1st, Lamar Miller falls to us in the second, and then we take our LB in the 3rd maybe a guy like Nigel Bradham.
by ctd1977 on Feb 3, 2012 4:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We're in a pretty position in the first round.
Because we’re guaranteed to either have Claiborne, Blackmon or Kalil fall to us, or to have RG3 fall to 5 and probably allow us to trade back.
If Claiborne and Kalil are gone, then and only then will I say draft Blackmon, and even then I’d at least consider Reily Reiff, who appears to have a very high ceiling as an OT. I wouldn’t draft Richardson at #5. The value just usually isn’t there.
I really dont think we need to draft o-line in the first 3 rounds
let alone the #5 pick overall. The o-line is the most depth we have on our team imo.
The DL is the only place we have any real depth...
Penn and Joseph – that’s it for the OL. 2 out of 5. Not really so deep. Most of those guys are marginal journeyman players and not a star in the bunch. Konz or Zeitler would be a smart, but not sexy, pick for us in Round 2.
We have 2 big holes on our o-line.
At LG and RT. We also have a C that’s average at best these days. Where’s the depth?
Picking a legit guard or tackle isn't depth.
That’s using a pick on a starter. We don’t have 5 starting linemen, we have 2 good starters, an average-at-best center, a RT who can’t pass block a speedy guy to save his life, and a below average LG.
Like I said, I would prefer we pick Claiborne, but if he’s not an option and neither is Kalil, then I would at least consider taking Reiff, who could start immediately at RT and switch over to LT in a few years after some seasoning (or after Penn’s next burger binge) rather than Blackmon, who is similar to the WRs we already have on our roster.
Of course we don’t NEED to spend the #5 pick on OL, but if Claiborne isn’t there then OL is probably the best option left for the long-term. And saying we don’t need to draft any OL in the first 3 rounds like you did previously, that’s just crazy talk. Unless we bring in a good FA for one of our two holes, we’re going to need to draft someone fairly early to keep Freeman alive.
i just think we are hurting in other areas more
We have a solid line imo and to waste a pick or FA doesnt make sense to me. I do agree Trueblood and Faine struggled and Zuttahs penalties made me break my remote,twice, but our D is horrid. If Claiborne isnt there I think we trade it. Someone posted awhile back to move Trueblood to guard and i really think he would be twice the guard than T. You got me to agree with you on oline help but our D flat out sucks and I think we need to adress D 1st and formost
I agree the defense needs a LOT of help.
But if Claiborne is gone, there is no defensive player worth the #5 overall pick. Kirkpatrick is the only one close, but that’s still about 5-10 picks early for him, especially with his recent arrest.
The option to trade down is probably not there, which means we’re going to have to take SOMEone. And if Claiborne isn’t there, that means we pick someone on the offense.
I think Zuttah should be moved inside to replace Faine. He’s a more physical blocker, and is probably more reliable in both the running and passing game. He’s also significantly less injury prone, and has played center with some success for us before. I’ve said countless times that Trueblood should be moved inside, because he just can’t handle speed rushers, which he wouldn’t have to worry about at guard. Instead his only concern would be mauling people and going strength for strength with DTs. That still leaves us needing a RT badly though, and if Kalil isn’t available I think Reiff is a decent consolation prize.
ok buddy you win
so what if Richardson is there do you take him over Kalil? I am a notre dame fan so i am pulling for Faine to come out of his funk so I would like to give him another year
I would say
No way do we take Richardson at 5. That’s very high for a RB in today’s NFL, especially when we already have a serviceable starter. If we had NO starter I’d at least be open to the idea, but 5th overall for a position declining in individual importance when we already have a good starter….no way.
And I would take Kalil over everyone except perhaps Claiborne. He looks to be a legitimate, elite franchise LT and those are rare. If he were to somehow drop, I would say draft Kalil and then trade back up into the bottom area of the 1st round to get the other LSU CB, who is also a legitimate starting option (similar to the deal New Orleans performed last year to get back into the 1st round for Ingram).
If we somehow took Kalil with Pick 5...
do you leave Penn at LT? Kalil is salmost expected to reach the elite level LT status, and Penn… well, let’s just say Penn will not ever be.
I think Penn is our LT
I can think of 2 games he didnt play well but other than that he had a pretty solid year imo. I think he is one of those players that if the team plays well he plays well. I mean hell he was a pro bowler just last year. But if Kalil is as good as everyone says he is it would be a good tandom. KRoa made some pretty damn good points that is kinda making me like this pick, and you win games up front so…
Penn is primarily a pass blocker.
It’s where he excels, so leaving him at LT this year would probably be the best option, while still getting Kalil some playing time at RT. That being said, I wouldn’t be disappointed if being able to draft Kalil were to cause us to start him at LT, and possibly trade Penn to a team who needs a serviceable, relatively young LT (Lions, Vikings, and several others).
Penn is an above average LT, but Kalil shows every sign of being an elite LT, in the same discussion as players like Joe Thomas of Cleveland.
Unfortunately...
That is killing me more than anything..
Outside of Butch Davis for DC,
Todd Haley is still unemployed last I saw (rumors of him going to Pittsburgh apparently, but nothing official). Couple other guys available, but with most of them we’d need their team’s permission to interview them.
Hue Jackson is still available as well, but I’d rather pass on him. I think his ego will prevent him from getting along with Schiano enough for us to have at least a semi-successful season.
what u think
Robinson from dallas then draft a ark wr or the lid from Miami I think his name is streeter in the late rds
by blountforce72 on Feb 3, 2012 4:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I like Streeter
Streeter isn’t CJ but as far as Size and Speed Heis very close he’s about 6’6 215 and can run around 4.4 in the Forty and also a LB we should be eyeing is Sean Spence from Miami yes he’s a little under size but he’s a hardworker and physical we should take him if he’s still around in the 3rd or 4th round…
i agree with streeter
He is also a big target for free to hit him and Williams outside benn in slot good combo…id also like to have the big Te from mizzu him andI stocker make big targets as well…..Winslow is Gettin old
by blountforce72 on Feb 3, 2012 4:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i really really like
Claiborne at 5it its a must have in my opinion then grab Zach brown in 2nd and 3rd we grab lb keutch (not sure how its spelled maybe trade down in 3rd get a 4th and grab a rb
by blountforce72 on Feb 3, 2012 4:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Love this
Great pickup. The only player i’d pick if Clayborne is off the board is an OT who has the potential to be a great LT in the not so distant future.
I dont like Blackmon at that spot because he’s just like the receivers we already have. I want a receiver in the V-Jax mode. Tall and runs at least a 4.5.
Richardson will be great but dont want him even if Clayborne is gone. Would a second contract be offered when his first one runs out and him needing a big raise?
And am against the idea of DeSean Jackson because he’s small and runs limited routes. We need a big, tall and fast receiver not a small one even one that is fast.
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Correct
We have enough average size 4.5 guys…We need a speedster with Height I would even look at Stevie Johnson also…I think we should go after One WR in FA Johnson or V Jax and then try and get one in the Draft Streeter,maybe Alshon Jeffrey if he falls in the 2nd round….
One point.
I dont want a receiver from the draft. We have enough of them. I want a vet. And Johnson would be good.
Trust. Belief. Accountability. The new Buc way as pronounced by Coach Schiano.
I don't think Stevie Johnson has a chance of being a Buc.
Schiano wants high character players and people who are accountable, and someone responsible for that many stupid penalties (several excessive celebration penalties in stupid situations) would have to be pretty low on Schiano’s wish list.
well i wish i could just fast forward the time to April 26th and get it over with already
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lol i am so taking this and making this a shirt!!!! hahahahahaha THANKS!
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So let me ask this question...
Who is all for getting James/Polk or one of those guys in the 3rd?
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I'll take James but he'll go in the second round
by TbBUcSfAn4LiFe on Feb 3, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
so let me ask you this.
why take him in the second when we can get that same type of guy in maybe the 6th round or even undrafted?
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im not saying take him
in the second, he’ll go in the second round, but at the same time he a great run has good vision on the screen had the most rushing yards in College last year etc….
by TbBUcSfAn4LiFe on Feb 3, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
but again i would take a OT before i would take a RB in the Draft,
you have to start from the core of the problem which is the OL
by TbBUcSfAn4LiFe on Feb 3, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think our line played pretty damn good until the last 3 games
then they finally gave up with the rest of thr team. The oline is at the bottom of my concern list
AH!!! So pretty much what you are saying is the lower you go in round the lower the success rate correct?
And James talent justifies him being taken in the third am I right?
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James or whoever else
It’s not about the specific players as much as it is about the value of different positions.
right. im just using James as an example.
So that player has to justify being drafted at that position and a right fit for the position. Ok i get that 100 percent. So would you consider James or that type guy a “luxury pick” even though its 3rd round based on his talent and our needs on the team and the options we have (FA, 7th round in the draft or undrafted FA’s). Or do you think that OVERALL running backs shouldnt be drafted no higher than the 2nd or 3rd?
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I think overall, in general, using higher than, say, a 20th overall draft pick on a running back is a poor use of resources, yes
I do think the Bucs need to add a change-of-pace/complementary/third-down back at some point during the offseason, but whether that guy comes in free agency or whether he’s a third-round draft pick doesn’t really matter to me. I wouldn’t be all that happy if the Bucs used just a seventh-rounder on a running back and did nothing else, though.
ok i totally get that.
and i agree with you. Now can you admit that there are exceptions to the rule? Some RBs that come out in the draft have the talent to justify that pick in the high or mid first round?
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There are always exceptions to the rule
But it’s very hard to predict who will be that exception to the rule beforehand. I like Richardson, but I don’t know if he’s that good.
More importantly, I don’t think that’s wise for a team with as many bigger holes as the Bucs.
Ok thats fair too.
No one can see the future but from a perspective it looks like he will be really good. So is that a little bit better insight on why i would want Richardson? And yes i agree we have bigger hole 4 sure.
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Or lets say we take James in the thiird. Im using him as an example.
He does great for ehhh 2-3 years then he’s done. Injury or just was a bust. Would you consider that a wasted investment even though we took him in the 3rd round?
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Lets say he has a Cadillac Williams type of career as far as numbers.
One season of 1000. Then 700, the maybe 500.
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ok fair enough
but i hope you kind of get what im trying to elude to.
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Richardson
I know you love him and would like us to get him, i’d like that too but the value ain’t there at 5. Too high and with him sharing the backfield. A better OL will give us better running game. Go ask, Houston, Ravens, Niners and the lot. Build the OL and a RB will flourish.
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Exactly
You know great minds think alike.
A very good OL and a Better OC would do wonders for Blount. If we cant get Nicks, i hope we can go for Grubbs if the Ravens let him walk.
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So you wouldnt think that going 3rd round would be to high for a guy that would split carries or be a part time back?
Im not being sarcastic, so dont take it that way. We could get an O line man in the third instead of James right? And the NFL has plenty of RBs that have been successful that were undrafted. So why not that scenario?
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I get what you mean
Honestly, i do. 3rd round can also be used to build depth, you know? If the value is there and James or Polk grades higher than the players on board, then i take him but i dont want James. I want a RB who can start games and carry the rock should Blount be injured for a few games. I dont even want a RB in the 1-3 round except some exceptional talent falls to us. I want CB, LB, OT in no particular order.
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now you get what i mean.
Im looking at Richardson as our starter and Blount as the back up. Now if we dont get him ok cool. But the alternative shouldnt be James or somebody like that in the 3rd for just a 3rd down back only. And your right if Lamar Miller fell to the second round then id say get him. But im glad you see my point.
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Claiborne all the way
2nd round Zack Brown or a WR that might fall
3rd round LMJ
5th round TE Chase Ford out of Miami
by TerenceJ11 on Feb 3, 2012 5:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If were picking a TE he better have played Basketball first lol
by TbBUcSfAn4LiFe on Feb 3, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Lol.. Actually I think he did
Plus he’s 6’6, so that helps
by TerenceJ11 on Feb 3, 2012 5:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just checked, he didnt
Play basketball, but still is a good talent!
by TerenceJ11 on Feb 3, 2012 5:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if we do take a TE i want Cody Fleener, or Ladarius Green
both not considered to be pyshical but both are 6’6 in 240 great size, in we would have our own Rob Gronkowski
well actully so is Chase Ford sorry so i agree with the TE in the 5th Rd.
by TbBUcSfAn4LiFe on Feb 3, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Take Ford and one of
Your guys late in the draft, maybe we’ll get lucky like the Pats!!
by TerenceJ11 on Feb 3, 2012 6:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
to be honest as long as there 6'6 i don't care which one they are
we just need a big target that Josh can throw to.
by TbBUcSfAn4LiFe on Feb 3, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
whats wtong with the cat frim mizzu
Egnew I think the kid will be pretty good
by blountforce72 on Feb 3, 2012 6:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
McShay gets it
No D in this league would survive without any surety in it’s secondary.
by GoBuxGo on Feb 3, 2012 7:58 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Many great corners
I’m a huge LSU fan and Tampa Bay fan, and no one is better at cornerback than Claiborne. But they can get an excellent corner later in the draft, and they cant get a RB like Richardson later in the draft or probably in the next couple of years to come. Same can be said with RG3 at QB. No doubt the Bucs will have a top five pick in 2013, and they can pick up Mathieu then. He plays like Troy Polamalu in his prime.
No one can stop NO...
but you do have to slow them down. Keeping the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands is the only way. We need to improve the DEF and learn to grind the ball and slow the game down. Limit the NO offense to 5-6 possessions instead of 9-10.
Can Claiborne Stop NFC South QBs?
He is the greatest corner out there, but even he can’t stop the force that is Drew Brees, Matt Ryan, and Cam Newton. Not to mention the likes of Rodgers, Manning, or Stafford in the playoffs. I say if you can’t beat em ( which no cornerback can) join em (and draft a QB) RG3 RG3 RG3
WTH?
You’re kidding right? What difference would RG3 make? He’s a rookie and will struggle. At least we know Freeman has can be successful in this league and not some rookie.
If Claiborne does his job by locking down his side then the DC will not have to worry about him.
And if you cant beat them, arrange to have them beaten.
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I believe RG3 will be a good QB
But the Bucs drafting him just makes no bloody sense. Freeman has a cannon for an arm, and if his decision making can be brought back to where it was 2 years ago rather than where it was last year, he can be an extremely dangerous QB.
Btw, referring to Matt Ryan as a “force” is laughable. He’s a solid player, but nowhere even close to a discussion about “elite” QBs like Brees, Rodgers or Manning.
I think your nuts!
Claiborne is a wasted draft pick unless we are looking for the number one pick next year. He will add nothing to our point production, which is already unbelievably low. Also, its possible to get a runner later in the draft, but at round 2 or 3, the premium backs will be gone. look at the teams that need a back besides us, Detroit, Jets, Miami, etc. Freeman is in a no/win situation now, Blount comes out on 3rd down, and the world knows hes passing. The bucs have no viable 3rd down back. The receiving corps is worse than mediocre, so why spend another 1st round pick on defense? Give us the enjoyment of at least the possibilty of scoring occasionally. This is the most boring team the bucs have fielded in 30 years.
With Claiborne
Our point production won’t need to go up, because the points we give up will be fewer.
Offense sells tickets, but defenses win games on a consistent basis. I’d rather win consistently than in a coin-flip nail-biter every week.
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