2012 NFL Free Agency: CB Stanford Routt signs with Chiefs; Carr to hit the market, Bowe franchised?
by Sander on Feb 20, 2012 2:44 PM EST
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Recently released cornerback Stanford Routt has signed with the Kansas City Chiefs for a three-year, $20 million deal. That's both good and bad news for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The good news is that this means Chiefs cornerback Brandon Carr is likely to hit the market as an unrestricted free agent this offseason. Carr is more talented and younger than Stanford Routt. It's hard for Kansas City to offer the talented young cornerback a new contract. with the amount of money they've invested in Routt and cornerback Brandon Flowers, as well as Javier Arenas.
The bad news: this means it's a lot more likely the Chiefs use the franchise tag on receiver Dwayne Bowe, taking another receiver off the market. The Bucs have a need for a cornerback, but they also need a real outside threat at receiver - as do many other teams. If Bowe is indeed off the market, their options there would be severely limited. Stevie Johnson and Vincent Jackson then become the most attractive receivers on the market, with players like Pierre Garcon, Robert Meachem and Mario Manningham following behind them.
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Not a shocking development.
Anyone thinking we will sign any big name free agents needs to rethink their rationally of that.
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I think we'll sign one big FA
if that guy is to be Carr I would be pretty happy
by ShiftyShayne on Feb 20, 2012 3:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 20, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Land me...
Carr in FA and Vincent Jackson, De’sean Jackson, or even (Colston) even though Colston is not as much of a deep threat and I will be VERY, VERY, VERY happy as a starting point. Did I say VERY HAPPY? Because that’s what I meant!
If we get Colston I think we can still ding a speedster receiver in the later rounds just to keep defenses honest, even if their not a superstar! Anyone remember Joey Galloway. Not really a superstar in his later years, but still scored some TDs because defense bit too much at times. Cmon Glazers, spend, spend, spend!
by gmaz1 on Feb 20, 2012 7:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Instead of your list...
I would expect us to sign Roy Williams, Bernard Berrian & Pacman Jones
Love Buccaneers - Hate Glazer
They will throw so cash out there
but most people seem to be under the impression that we’re gonna sign a bunch of proven players to come in and be starters for a few years. I’m hoping we sign one or 2 key guys to come in and take some of the pressure off and then just keep chugging along with the draft/develop way.
by ShiftyShayne on Feb 20, 2012 3:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
That's pretty much the way I'm hoping,
That we sign a small handful of guys to provide some veteran presence on a very young team. I don’t expect us to be compete for the SB this year, or even the playoffs, but I’d be very happy with a 6-10 or 7-9 season where we at least hang around and compete in the games instead of getting walked all over.
I think most of where we need the veteran presence is on the defensive side of the ball, where we’ve lost or will lose most of our key leaders (Ruud, Barber, etc.). Were we to grab a guy like Carr, along with a semi-proven LB like Dan Connor I’d call that a pretty successful offseason, as long as we sign a few other 3rd-tier guys to provide depth and competition.
Agreed retool the D
Freeman will sort out the offense himself.
by ShiftyShayne on Feb 20, 2012 4:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
You've got to put at least one more weapon around Freeman
This will be a pivotal year for him. You have to give him every chance to succeed. We shouldn’t go nuts on offense, but we need to get at least one weapon and maybe a line upgrade at one position.
That doesn’t mean we don’t retool the D, but I see that as a 2 year project. This year we’ll replace some guys that are leaving (or possibly being jailed): Jones, Hayes, Barber, Mack, Haynesworth, and Talib specifically. Next year we cull the rest of the dead weight.
Freeman needs some help, sure.
But the only real weapon I think we need to add for him is a true 3rd down back like LMJ. Of course, that’s not counting an o-lineman, since we need to add a new RT or LG. I don’t consider them “weapons” though lol.
Fixing the D is definitely a 2-year project. I envision us bringing in a CB and a MLB like Connor in FA this year, adding Claiborne and maybe another LB in the draft (plus some depth guys), and then waiting till next year to do more than bring in stop-gap pieces to the rest of the defense. Even just adding talent to those 4 positions would give our defense a major boost.
3rd down back is an obvious need, but not what I mean when I say weapon
Richardson, a true #1 receiver, a great tight end – something.
I would settle for some decent TEs.
Like John Carlson or Martellus Bennett….or both lol.
I think we could live without Richardson or a great WR. I think just settling our defensive problems will aid Freeman and the offense a lot, since they won’t be pressured to score every drive.
I don't know man I our wide receiving corps play pretty bad this year
by Carlitin1988 on Feb 20, 2012 9:53 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
They did, yes, but so did the rest of the team.
Right now our greatest needs are on defense, as that unit greatly resembled Swiss cheese against even mediocre offenses.
While our offense needs some pieces, like a 3rd down back and a new offensive lineman or two, we have much better talent on our offense than we do on our defense. While we could certainly use a great WR, I think we can manage without one pretty well as long as we fix our other holes.
On top of that, the only free agent WR I’m really sold on is Dwayne Bowe, who will likely be franchised. Vincent Jackson is a good idea for us, but will require a rather large paycheck to come here, and is not young enough for us to truly get the best of a big contract. Stevie Johnson is another possibility, but I don’t know that he would fit Schiano’s philosophy of TBA.
There’s also the hope that our WRs play better with better coaching and a much better offensive scheme that fits their talents better. Sullivan has done good work as a WR coach in the past, so it’s not unbelievable that he can get more out of our current WRs then Greg Olsen did.
Talk is cheap
WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE
If you lived closer I would have kicked the snot out of you by now
Matt Moore. That is all.
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 20, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
And your point is?
WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE
If you lived closer I would have kicked the snot out of you by now
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by joeybw
Until I see this front office spend money. I'll withhold any idea that they will.
To them signing a punter is a big FA move.
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 20, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Hah
Well, they haven’t said they’d spend in previous years. This is the first time they’ve made it clear they will – and to not spend after all that hinting would look absolutely terrible (and make very little sense).
Agree!!!!
If you really pay attention to everything thats going on they are doing lot of thing different than usual.
by TbBUcSfAn4LiFe on Feb 20, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
they know we can't just build thoug the draft
they said it now does it mean there going to go crazy in draft like the Eagles did no but we will see some good talented people come to the Bucs Schiano to me is doing everything right so far. the man has a plan T.B.A
by TbBUcSfAn4LiFe on Feb 20, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
I hope not.
It didn’t work out to well for them.
I see them bidding on a few guys
but ultimately we probably won’t land anyone that makes people insanely happy. At worst I just hope for a corner and a linebacker. Strong safety is the position I’d really like to see upgraded especially for a Tyvon Branch or Laron Landry type.
Good luck Rah. Bring us Mo Claiborne and replace Geno, Quincy, and Sean Jones!
I would rather draft our own CB
people will over pay for a guy who is a backup CB
yeah, mabey 4 secondary position's to fill
I just don’t want to over pay for a guy who is like Biggers.
Also no Stevie Johnson, we already have many head case’s
Carr isn't Biggers, at all
And who cares if we overpay? As long as we front load it so it won’t kill our cap in the future I don’t see a problem. It is about time they spend, and they’ll probably have to overpay a bit to get talent here. The Glazers might care if we overpay, but I sure don’t as long as we don’t do it stupidly.
Also I have to disagree about Stevie Johnson. I’d love him here, but I think he’s getting franchised.
I would love him here too
None of our coaches are gonna take any ish from any one of these young players
by Carlitin1988 on Feb 20, 2012 9:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Sign Carr; Draft Morris and our CB position is set...
Sign FA’s Dan Conner, Ben Grubbs, and Tyvon Branch. We can afford it.
by ctd1977 on Feb 20, 2012 4:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Don't forget Laurent Robinson
I don’t think the Cowboys will have the cap room to franchise him. They only have about $12M and they are supposedly going to be big players in the Carl Nicks sweepstakes.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
That 12M might be off, it was from an uncredible source
but either way, I doubt they’re willing to sink another 9M into the receiver position with Miles Austin and Dez Bryant already making bank.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
I don't think Robinson will need 9 million to keep.
He seems to be very happy there in Dallas, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re able to sign him for 5-6 million a year on a 3 or 4 year deal. Robinson doesn’t have a ton of leverage for a bit contract because he only had the one year of really good production. The rest of his years in the league were pretty mediocre.
9 million is what it would cost them to franchise him.
5-6M is still a lot of money to be paying your third receiver. I’m almost positive he will be able to get more money outside Dallas. True that he was mediocre with the Falcons and Rams, but their QB play during those years was abysmal so it’s hard to gauge where his true talent lies.
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I wonder if he would end up being more like Alvin Harper or Joey Galloway for us. haha
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Oh I'm sure he could make more outside Dallas.
Thanks to the very good year he just had, someone will be willing to pay him, probably in the 6-7 million a year range. 5-6 million is a lot to be paying your 3rd receiver, but when both Bryant and Miles Austin have had issues staying on the field the last year or two it can be seen as a good investment.
That being said, I wouldn’t be THAT surprised to see him sign for less then that. He seems to have liked his stay with the Cowboys and is pretty happy with that situation, so he may give the Boys a discount….maybe not a big one, but enough of one for it to make sense for them to pay him.
I'm not a fan of signing third receivers off other teams' rosters
They tend to disappoint. Especially so when they’re as inconsistent as Robinson has been.
True, but he was playing better than Austin last year.
He probably isn’t worth what he is going to cost, but he’s better than anyone on the roster right now, which is sad.
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Miles Austin was hurt a lot of last season...
and Robinson was used in his place during the time missed. I would much prefer Miles Austin to Laurent Robinson. Kinda like Michael Irvin/Alvin Harper comparison. Clear #1 and #2 roles.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 22, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
I know he was hurt. That's how Robinson got the opportunity
but even after Austin came back, Robinson played much better than him.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
I believe it was a lingering hamstring injury to Miles Austin...
sometimes that will just be nagging a guy for the entire season.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 22, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Carr>Bowe for our team.
Add Finnergan as well and our CB situation is good.
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I would rather have Finnegan than Carr, thats if he wanted to play here
He, imo, would bring a confidence that our D has none of
I'd much rather have Carr.
If forced to choose between the two, I would take Carr over Finnegan. He’s younger, has a high ceiling, and shouldn’t break the bank to sign.
What do you think dollar wise it would take to get him here?
We do have a bank to break and I think he would be more of a investment as far as a leadership standpoint. It would be great to get them both but I know that is highly unlikely. We need a leader back there and I think he has the juice to bring a swagger this D needs.
I'd say Finnegan would probably require around $10 mil a year at least.
Brandon Flowers signed for a similar amount last year and Finnegan is a better CB. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was closer to $11 a year.
While we do have a bank to break, I’d hate to see a large portion of it tied up in a single player when we have holes all over our team. Stanford Routt signed for between 6-7 mil a year and as of right now he’s put up similar numbers to Carr. Carr has a higher ceiling and much more potential than Routt though, so would cost more. I would say Carr we might be able to steal at around 8-9 mil a year, with a significantly lower signing bonus than Finnegan would require.
The money saved could be put towards our other holes, like fixing our abominable LB corps or even signing a 2nd-tier CB to put alongside Routt. It’d also allow us to at least somewhat stay in the Carl Nicks sweepstakes.
I for sure see where you are coming from
I agree we have holes to fill and its going to take a few years to get our D great again, but if Ronde retires who do we have as potential leaders on D? The sooner we get a core of guys that can lead this team the better we will be down the road. Regardless this draft is key and if it turns out good we are still going to need someone on the field to lead them.
Well, defensive leaders don't grow on trees, granted,
But we have players who have been attempting to take on that role. During the lockout GMC took it upon himself to get the defense working together, so I would put him into that kind of role.
Also, with Carr having started every single game (and not missed any games) in the 4 seasons since he entered the league, he can also be a steadying, veteran presence on our defense.
no way is finnegan a better player than flowers. finnegan is very aggressive but his coverage skills are not on flower’s level.
no way is carr more talented than routt. routt can do something that 98% of nfl receivers cannot: run with the fastest receivers in the league like mike wallace, djax, and dhb. aside from the penaties and laspes in concentration last year, he gave up like a 37% completion percentage the year before with nmandi on the side next to him.
I'm afraid I have to disagree on both counts.
Finnegan at his best is probably a top 5 corner in the NFL. Flowers is a very good CB, but is not yet at that level.
And Routt may or may not have more physical talented, but Carr is a more complete CB. Routt has problems with playing disciplined, evidenced by him leading all CBs the last two years in accepted penalties with 28.
then T-TRAIN
CHOOOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE
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by joeybw
The real bad news about this move is...
The Bucs were were not even in contention.
Not that I think Rout would be a good fit here, but he is a FA at a position of need. I would have a least like to see us mention as a team he considered. Instead these were the teams listed as is possible alternatives behind KC: Buffalo, Cincinnati, Houston, New Orleans, Minnesota and Tennessee.
Now the rumor mill is saying Dallas will make a move for Carr, why not us?
Let's go Brandon Carr
I hope signing him is in the Glazernik’s “plans”, KC better hope they get what AL Davis was paying for.
by GoBuxGo on Feb 20, 2012 6:37 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I like Robert Meachem
He is fast, young, and talented.
by bucswillwin on Feb 20, 2012 7:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Since we're talking KC free agents
what do people think of Jackie Battle as a 3rd down RB?
by ShiftyShayne on Feb 20, 2012 7:06 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Battle isn't really built as a 3rd down back.
What he looked like for KC last year was a guy with a little bit of power, but a somewhat limited skillset. I see him more as a poor-man’s LeGarrette Blount.
We don't need a 3rd down RB.
We need a complete HB. You know…..like Trent Richardson. That guy that so many of you seem to not want…. I’ve watched every game of his career and let me just say that Tim Tebow (at Florida) is the only other person that on every play the defense was focused totally on and he still had a monster year. He’s never had a good QB. I’m a big time Alabama fan and let me just say that hes the real deal. There will be no buyers remorse with him. I hope we get a CB in FA and another in the draft. Doesn’t even have to be in the 2nd round. There’s some talented CBs gonna be still out there later. Plus I think we have a couple guys that will surprise everybody in this new defense. I just can’t wait to see Atlantas defenders with their hands on their knees and exhausted knowing that on the next play Richardson is coming again…….hahahaha GO BUCCS!!!
by TheDarkLord on Feb 20, 2012 7:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
there will be buyers remorse in 5-6 years when claiborne is still producing at a high level while richardson is worn out.
Wonder if washington could take back the champ bailey trade.
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 20, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
I do believe Claiborne
Will be the better player and I want us to pick him, I don’t believe Richardson will be a bust and worn out. Any other year I’d take Richardson, but Claiborne “I” believe is the real deal!
by TerenceJ11 on Feb 20, 2012 8:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lets run with kregg lumpkin at rb and 4wr sets every down or maybe a 4 te set?
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yes, either we get richardson or we have lumpkin
that’s it, our only choices.
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 20, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
He is when I'm on defense
by Carlitin1988 on Feb 20, 2012 9:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
why not?
we dont need a run game so what does it matter? he was in all last year and he wont last long anyways because hes a running back. Once he’s done we can get another undrafted RB and keep it moving.
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If Richardson is the next Adrian Peterson
I will be happy with this pick, but I just havent turned that corner yet. dc IS he the next AP?
If claiborne is the next champ bailey he has more value at #5
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 20, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Keep in mind that Adrian Peterson is starting to suffer from injuries, too
After five years in the league.
But look at what he has done in those 5 years
plus they didnt have a Blount to take alot of those carries. I am really starting to think we will take him at 5 because of Sulivans scheme. Richardson and Blount remind me alot of Bradshaw and Jacobs
You would take 5 years of losing in the playoffs to teams with passing games
then take 15 years of shut down corner?
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 20, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
54 rushes to 65 passes
in the post season
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 20, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
so they did run the ball
I totally understand the league is QB driven and somewhat see your point about his life span but if Richardson , Im not saying he is, a future hall of famer I would think any fan would want him here. What I dont agree with you is the fact you have to throw the ball every down. Footbal is and always will be a three phase game and to be successfull you have to be good in all 3 phases.
No one's saying you pass the ball every down.
Simply that having a dominant running game is no longer necessary in the NFL. To be successful teams merely need to have an adequate running game, enough to keep a defense honest, and that can be done without spending a super-high draft pick on a RB.
Not every first round corner taken will be a shut down corner for 15 years.
Thats absurd. We have a potential ‘shutdown corner" in Aqib Talib…. guess what? He’s been hurt the past two seasons. So please stop throwing this shutdown corner term around at every corner back. Its only been 5 shutdown cornerbacks this past 2 decades. Deion, Champ, Woodson, Revis, and Nhamdi. Thats it.
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From everything I've seen or heard,
Claiborne has the serious potential to be in the same category as Champ, Revis and Nnamdi. He’s not only physically talented (though not as much as Patrick Peterson last year), but is a great student of the game, with very polished play. He should be able to contribute early and often because of that.
Yeah and i agree he is a "GREAT" player and has alot of potential.
But we cant say that he’s going to be a shutdown corner for one, and two that hes going to play for 15 years. I dont hate on his skills or his talent. he’s the best CB prospect in my eyes but this hes going to be a shutdown corner for 15 years thing is a little outrageous. My expectations of him is that he will be a solid CB that could be great later on down the road once he adjusts to the NFL.
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Your right.
Im just saying that no matter what player we get our expectations need to be realistic and not so farfetched.
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I'm trying to be as realistic as possible,
Which is one of the reasons why I’m not sold on Richardson at #5, since as great a RB as he might be the risk of injury for RBs is huge, which devalues them that high.
Claiborne I think will start out as a good, solid CB that can be very good within a couple of seasons. The fact that he’s a very polished corner means he can step into the lineup right away, and while he may not make anyone’s jaw drop he looks like he can be consistent, which is something we never got from Talib.
Yea I know you are which is cool.
I would just say that its harder to evaluate a CB than it is a RB. RB’s have the ball more etc… and CBs a little harder especially if they arent making INTs on film at a high rate.
About Richardson i respect your opinion and I did see you say you would take him at a mid first round correct? So I would ask on talent alone do you think Richardson deserves to be in the top 5 this year? Sounds like the only knock on him isn’t his talent but his position. Since the NFL is a “pass driven league” and because of his freakish strength, speed, vision, and other intangibles he has you do at least understand why he may be ranked this high since Reggie Bush?
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If we were to base this purely off of talent,
I would certainly say he’s the 4th best player in the draft, behind Luck, RG3, and Kalil.
The absolute only knock I have on Richardson is his position, because with the extreme injury risk to RBs the value just isn’t there high in the draft. I agree that he’s a physically talented RB, and the best to come out in several years. I just don’t agree that he should be taken as high as 5th overall because of it. The first team I can see getting proper draft value for him is the Chiefs at 11th overall.
I won’t be surprised if he goes earlier than that, because he IS extremely gifted, but if a team takes him earlier than around 11-14 then they’re just not maximizing the value of their draft choice.
Ok. I feel you.
I just say that with that possible talent and the type of offense we want to run he would be the perfect fit. Especially for Freeman
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No doubt
He would be a great player for Tampa. I just have issues taking a player at a very risky position that early in the draft.
If we do end up taking him there I’ll rejoice because we got a great player, I just won’t be happy about taking him that early….if that makes any sense ;)
Don't hold your breath DC,
There’s quite a few people on here that take exception to people being reasonable ;)
which is not what we need ?
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by 4QB on Feb 21, 2012 12:12 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I never said that at all. We need a whole lot of great all around the team not just at CB and not just with Claiborne.
He seems great but we cant put him in the “shutdown corner category” just yet.
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Why not?
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Probably because he's never played a down in the NFL lol.
Shutdown corner to me means that they basically erase a WR from the game. Holding middling WRs to nothing and elite WRs to 50 yards or less with no TDs would qualify as a shutdown corner to me.
While I have absolutely no doubt Claiborne will be a good CB right from the start, he won’t be completely erasing anyone’s top options right away.
Exactly.
He needs to prove to me in the NFL that he can do that. I cant crown him that just yet.
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And Trent Richardson has proven he can run in the NFL?
"Number one song and a Grammy, now I'm smashing
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Wrap it 'round a pole, sell a mil off the tragedy
I defy gravity "
Well no, he hasn't.
But RB is a position where there’s less of a transition issue when going from college to the NFL. The number of out-and-out busts at RB are lower then at other positions because there’s not a big difference for them.
What offsets the lower bust rate though, is the fact that the average RB career is significantly shorter than any other position.
Why is it you hate on Richardson so much and dont acknowledge he is a great talent? Is it because of the LSU vs BAMA game?
And you put Claiborne on this high pedastool over Richardson?
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Im not an LSU or a Bama fan, I don't really care about either team either.
Your argument is too flawed though
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Maserati crashing, swerving through the traffic
Wrap it 'round a pole, sell a mil off the tragedy
I defy gravity "
I would not mind Richardson,
But not at 5th overall. That is just too high to take a player at a position like RB. That’s not to say Richardson wouldn’t be a game-changer, but RBs are very risky to take high simply because of how much wear and tear they suffer.
Think back a few years, to when Cedric Benson, Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams were ALL selected in the top 5. Two of them have had injury problems (and not minor injuries either) while the other is a steady, but somewhat mediocre back. The injury risk at RB is simply too high to justify spending a very high pick on them. While I understand Richardson has superior talent, at 5th overall I’d rather take a player with equal talent at a position with superior longevity.
If we could somehow get Richardson in the middle of the first round, or later, I would be far more happy with that type of pick, but earlier than that (especially in the top 5) and we’re just not getting enough value for that pick.
Who we get in FA will sway me one way or the other
if we get a good solid corner I would be fine taking a risk on Richardson. And also I didnt realize Carl Nicks was a FA. I think he could make our OL one of the best in the league in turn us not having to use a1st round on a OL.Im ready for some deals to be made
Nicks is a FA, yes,
But there’s a good chance he ends up with the franchise tag assuming NO is able to get a long-term deal done quickly with Brees. Colston is a possibility for the tag instead, but with the type of WR depth the Saints have it’s less important for them to bring Colston back then Nicks.
Also, keep in mind that even if Nicks does hit FA, he’s going to be ridiculously expensive, requiring a contract very similar to (but probably slightly larger then) the deal the Saints signed Jahri Evans to in 2010, about 56.7 million over 7 years. That’s very expensive for a guard.
exactly
Cadillac, much like Richardson had the talent to be one of the greatest- remember his first 3 games???
The problem is the risk of knee/ankle injury is great.
Draft Claiborne.
Go Magic/Bucs/Gators/Rays!
by chiefs_55 on Feb 21, 2012 6:56 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Cadillac could've easily been a great RB,
If not for his rather large number of injuries robbing him of most of the physical talents that made him special.
Rbs are more prone to it
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by 4QB on Feb 21, 2012 12:12 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It's true, any player can get that bug.
But it’s more common at certain positions. RB is one of those positions because it involves a LOT of contact, constantly being hit. LB is another, since there’s just as much contact, even though they’re the ones initiating it most of the time.
CB it’s not as likely at, since most of the time their job is to just run with WRs. While they can still get physically involved in a play, it’s not as common as it is for more high-contact positions, and it’s the contact that stands the greatest chance of causing injury.
Safeties too.
CB’s more prone to hamstrings (Aqib Talib) I think that RB are more prone to career ending injuries or career declining injuries. Per se.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICHARDSON TRAIN!!!
Generally, yes.
Because of where they are hit, RBs are more prone to serious concussions and especially knee injuries, and the latter of those can absolutely destroy a RB’s career. CBs are more prone to relatively minor injuries relating to the ankle or hamstrings.
Safety is probably the defensive position
Whose injury likelyhood depends most upon playstyle and less upon position type. If you have a physical-type safety, they’re usually right behind LBs when it comes to injury risk. There are many safeties, however, who make their living primarily as coverage players and their injury risk is only a little bit higher than that of a CB, which is probably the defensive position least likely to suffer serious injury on average.
But RB's are more prone to it
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Maserati crashing, swerving through the traffic
Wrap it 'round a pole, sell a mil off the tragedy
I defy gravity "
I have faith in LGB
give Blount more time to work on his hands and then ya all we need is someone to come in and let the big guy rest for a few plays
by ShiftyShayne on Feb 20, 2012 7:53 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Fully Agree
Let LGB develop during his first full offseason with the Bucs before we start talking about replacing him, all we need is speed and at this point I don’t care who has it I’m just hoping we get it.
by GoBuxGo on Feb 20, 2012 8:26 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
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