Bill Sheridan's hiring is hard to justify
by Sander on Feb 17, 2012 6:57 PM EST
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PrintThe Tampa Bay Buccaneers have made it official now: Bill Sheridan is indeed their new defensive coordinator. According to Adam Caplan, he has signed a two-year agreement, which would make his room for error not all that great. And that's a good thing, because there's not a lot of reason to suspect he'll do well in Tampa.
As a linebackers coach he has had a decent but not spectacular career. The New York Giants defense was never renowned for its linebackers while Sheridan coached them, although he has certainly done a good job with the Miami Dolphins' linebackers the past two years. His one year as defensive coordinator for the New York Giants is very concerning, however. He took over that defense after Steve Spagnuolo left following the 2008 season.
In 2008, the New York Giants had the 8th ranked defense by Football Outsiders numbers. When Sheridan took over they plummeted to 21st, while they vaulted back up to third place as soon as he left. That's not exactly encouraging, and New York Giants fans certainly don't think he's very good at his job, to put it mildly.
There are two reasons to be a little more hopeful, though: Greg Schiano and Butch Davis are likely to have a big say on the defense. The second reason: the Bucs confirmed the hiring of Bryan Cox, who should at least bring a nasty attitude to that defense, if nothing else.
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The results speak for themselves.
8th to 21st to 3rd, with the 21st being the only year he was DC. I’m hoping Davis and Schiano will have the majority of the responsibility when it comes to the defense and Sheridan is just a lackey.
Oderint dum metuant
Well how bout yall go pick a defensive coordinator.
The way I see it, the only defensive coordinators with pristine coaching resumes are looking to move up to be head coaches. Sometimes you have to look past the numbers and look at the big picture. Bucs needed the position filled, brought in a guy with SOME EXPERIENCE. Lets get it.
2009 3rd mostd scored on defense! i dont blame sheridan i blame injuries..
he still managed to get the 13th overall def. after they lost strahan to retirement.. then with so many injuries osi missed 5 games, kenny phillips missed 14games, Aaron ross missed 15 games, corey webster 3 games, kiwi missed 10 games, boley missed 5 games, pierce missed 7 games and deon grant was so terrible they went out and got antrel rolle in the offseason.. thats 7 defensive starters missin big part of the season. sheridan isnt a bad coach tom coughlin doesnt hire bad coaches.. go bucs!
Giants fan here
Good points. It’s hard to judge him on that one year performance. This current season, many Giants fans were calling for our DC’s head (Perry Fewell) for only rushing three and playing a soft zone defense. But part of that had to do with injuries to the D-line, linebackers, and having some of the db’s playing out of position with a few rookies in there. When most of the D got healthy late in the season, and the Defensive scheme was simplified, suddenly the D got a whole lot better again.
So, maybe, Sheridan’s Defense can work if everyone stays relatively healthy and it gets a chance to work. Anyway, I hope he works out for you guys
Noted
Good coaches don't get fired after one season, bad coaches do.
sheridan isnt a bad coach tom coughlin doesnt hire bad coaches
Oderint dum metuant
Tom Coughlin doesn't hire bad coaches
Admittedly Coughlin has been good with his hires, but Sheridan wasn’t a pick per say. After Spagnolo left in ‘08 the players said they wanted consistency over bringing in a new coordinator so Bill Sheridan was promoted from LB coach to DC. I don’t think Sheridan would have gotten the job otherwise, and the Giants didn’t bother looking in house once they gave Sheridan the boot, so this wasn’t completely Coughlin’s best choice.
I’ll say this, I like the Bucs quite a bit so I hope Sheridan does play extremely well for you guys, but I don’t have a lot of confidence. His year in New York was a disaster. We ended our season, and closed out our stadium by giving up 40 points a game. The players more or less gave up on him by the end of the year, and he had this really weird amoeba defense he’d use sometimes where players would me moving all over the line prior to the snap. Suffice it to say, it never really worked. Again, I wish all the best to you guys and here’s hoping Sheridan suddenly becomes the next Jim Johnson.
^^^^ 100% correct
How those 65 people said they liked this hiring is beyond me.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Finally!
Where are all the articles that give this kind of injury information? It’s all how the Giants went from 8th best to 21st in def once Sheridan took over… injuries played a role.
Regardless, given the experience Sheridan has, it could be an immediate improvement over Raheem…let’s hope so.
I think the following statement is a virtual certainty...
Regardless, given the experience Sheridan has, it could be an immediate improvement over Raheem
by Cracker Ball on Feb 23, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Not onboard with this hire.
Schiano’s background and Butch’s background help and may push Sheridan the right way but on its own I am unimpressed. The Sully hire makes some sense, but not a strong start to the offseason.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
It's not like we had a wide range of options at this point.
The NFL was shutting the door in the Glazers faces. The college ranks were loyal and didn’t want to leave the schools. The Glazer knew it. Hence why he was only signed 2 years. In real speak he has 1 year to prove his worth or he’s out.
I think With Schiano and Davis mentoring him tho. We will be just fine. I feel he is just gonna be the Face for the Defense while Davis and Schiano pull all the strings.
Well, it is the end of the week, but can he be a great DC?
Hopefully he buys into Schiano’s and Davis’s defensive views. I like Cox as LB coach. Nasty LB’s are a good thing. Now it’s time to see what the draft and FA brings to the Bucs.
Sheridan is a solid choice
With the tools and past experience as a DC, this is an upgrade over Raheem Morris. Sure his resume isn’t the greatest, how effect can a coach be juggling players at almost every position.
by GoBuxGo on Feb 17, 2012 8:09 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Not thrilled but.......
I keep reminding myself that Bill Belichick sucked in Cleveland, learned from that and became a better coach….hopefully we’ll be saying the same about Sheridan at the end of the season
Sheridan and dolphins
Does anyone know why he is not with Dolphins anymore?
by gmaz1 on Feb 17, 2012 8:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That's what I thought about sheridan
That he did a pretty good job with linebackers in Miami. I just wonder why teams just wipeout entire staff? Why not keep the good ones? Is it just because if a new Head coach comes in with new schemes that a specific positions coach may not be the right fit… Even if he is good?
by gmaz1 on Feb 18, 2012 6:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dont worry guys; he's just keepin the seat warm for Butch...
Sheridan signs a 2 year deal and Butch has 2 more years to collect before he’s off UNC’s books…what a coincidence…
we now have more coaches then players
But some aren’t allowed to coach while others are in over their heads and some just simply suck
by Carlitin1988 on Feb 17, 2012 9:35 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Rutgers guy- I forget his name
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Maserati crashing, swerving through the traffic
Wrap it 'round a pole, sell a mil off the tragedy
I defy gravity "
Some of you are ridiculous
I swear, some of you are so easily influenced in your opinion of someone just by what you read in someone else’s opinion. He’s going to be a good coach for us because they are providing him with more mentorship then he was afforded anywhere else. Defensive head coach, a defensive minded “special” assistant, and also a crazy former LB in Cox….he has more people to provide input on schemes and film than he probably had in NY, where you know you either sink or swim……People need to be a little more positive and let their first season shake out before you want to crucify him for being a “bad” hire….IJS
While I wouldn't agree with the term mentorship as Bill Sheridan is no young protege, I will agree that he is surrounded by some defensive minded talent with Schiano, Davis, and now Cox. This group could allow our defense to become successful again
He’s going to be a good coach for us because they are providing him with more mentorship then he was afforded anywhere else.
by TheUltimateBucFan on Feb 18, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Monte Kiffin didn't have a lot of success before Dungy...
Something to consider?
Go Magic/Bucs/Gators/Rays!
by chiefs_55 on Feb 18, 2012 12:35 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Do you think the Sullivan and Sheridan can sway any of NYG UFA's? If so, who is worth going after? I highlighted the ones I could see in pewter in bold...
New York Giants
Pos Player FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB David Carr UFA New York Giants Free Agent
WR Domenik Hixon UFA New York Giants Free Agent
WR Mario Manningham UFA New York Giants Free Agent
WR Devin Thomas UFA New York Giants Free Agent
TE Bear Pascoe UFA New York Giants Free Agent
P Steve Weatherford UFA New York Giants Free Agent
OT Kareem McKenzie UFA New York Giants Free Agent
OT Tony Ugoh UFA New York Giants Free Agent
OG Stacy Andrews UFA New York Giants Free Agent
DL Rocky Bernard UFA New York Giants Free Agent
DL Jimmy Kennedy UFA New York Giants Free Agent
DL Dave Tollefson UFA New York Giants Free Agent
LB Chase Blackburn UFA New York Giants Free Agent
LB Jonathan Goff UFA New York Giants Free Agent
CB Will Blackmon UFA New York Giants Free Agent
CB Michael Coe UFA New York Giants Free Agent
CB Brian Jackson UFA New York Giants Free Agent
CB Aaron Ross UFA New York Giants Free Agent
CB Terrell Thomas UFA New York Giants Free Agent
CB Justin Tryon UFA New York Giants Free Agent
SS Deon Grant UFA New York Giants Free Agent
FS Derrick Martin UFA New York Giants Free Agent
by TheUltimateBucFan on Feb 18, 2012 1:35 AM EST reply actions
Carr and McKenzie are only highlighted as they could bring veteran leadership
I hope we resign J.J. so we don’t have to bring in a guy like Carr.
by TheUltimateBucFan on Feb 18, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
I KNOW YOU DIDN'T
try to compare our knew DC to the great Monte Kiffin….Lol there is comparison…..Monte is a 1 of a kind…….PS comeon man
by keysersoze19 on Feb 18, 2012 2:10 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Hixon
Hixon is coming off his second big season ending injury, this time with a torn ACL which is the second one of those he’s had. In all likelihood Hixon is probably done for his career. Maybe, maybe not, but I doubt any team is going to make a big move for him.
If you are optimistic about this hire
Ask, KRoa…… He or she put me at ease when I had know idea why tampa hired davis when we had no coordinator…..This hire here makes me more confident that the bucs know what they are doing, when it comes to building a great franchise. The last time this happened in 09 felt like everything was rushed, even though we landed a head coach that led us to 10 wins no matter what you say about it. This time it feels like the bucs is saying, lets get this right no matter what any one else say about it.
I feel dominick has included ownership see his vision in spinning money through free agency in that matter. I have come to the conclusion that drafting richardson or the corner that everyone convents in that matter, would be a deciding result.
Going forward I feel that the Bucs organization remains consistent in the aspect of being great and that they will model their franchise after the patriots, stellers, and saints.
Proof in that is is evident not only in the hire of Greg, but also in the detailed search of his coordinators………Draft RICHARDSON to save all you nfl inexperience guys jobs LOL, hence Raheem and olson has more nfl experience then our new staff. Lol, just a
by keysersoze19 on Feb 18, 2012 1:40 AM EST via Android app reply actions
1 Season is simply too small of a sample size to judge someone
From an evaluation size, if we were judging everything based on a single season we could pull out alot of bad issues on multiple guys who turned out to be pretty darn good.
ROFL does anyone remeber 0-26?
I know i sure do and its still a bitter taste thats never went away and with the hiring of sheridan the bargain basement coaching staff of the glazers dreams is finished.
This has all hallmarks of a franchise about to implode completley if the implosion with morris wasnt bad enough.
The glazers are to cheap to hire some credible coaches i was always told “No matter how you polish a turd..its still a turd with polish on it” thats how i feel about this coaching staff they hired turds and are now trying to shine them up and sell them on the fans.
Im not buying it as far as im concerned since the glazers love losing might aswell put the creamcicles back on fulltime…
Everyone says oh but we have schiano and davis and cox and sheridan, be positive.... Who cares, all of these coaches have proven to be nothing but average at best.
im tired of being optimistic, I want results. If you can be positive and hopeful you probably don’t care about the bucs that much because the last 3 years were painful to me
by Carlitin1988 on Feb 18, 2012 11:15 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
We have to remember
That he is more of a puppet for our team. Remember, Schiano is a defensive minded coach, and so is Butch. This means that they will be in control with the defensive. Granted, during the games Sheridan will be making the calls, but I don’t see this being a problem.
Thats my thoughts, and as always, are usually incorrect.
If I could wear a bucs shirt with a noles hat for the rest of my life, by golly I would be the happiest man in the world.
hmm as a giants fan
i remember that sheridan didn’t warrant enough to return for another season. it was frustrating watching such a talented D underperform, even with our injuries.
it’s strange i almost feel like sheridan is hired with a failsafe in place for someone to fire if things go wrong, but gl to you guys.
I don't think its a failsafe system
There are plenty of coaches around him to help him out. And plus, our D could not be any worse than last year, so anything would be considered a plus.
If I could wear a bucs shirt with a noles hat for the rest of my life, by golly I would be the happiest man in the world.
Comments from a NYer
Sheridan was awful. Refused to ever blitz, even more than Fewell. Coverages were always bad.
But Schiano is an awesome pickup. Hope he takes a strong hand with the defense. At Rutgers, he always had tough defenses even with no-name guys. Tough against the run, pressured the QB. Forget that, it was impossible to run on Rutgers.
My QB has 2 rings. Well, 3 if you want to get technical.
2012 NYG mock - 1: Dwayne Allen TE, 2: Brandon Boykin CB/RS, 3: A.J. Jenkins WR, 4: Vick Ballard RB, 5: Neiko Thorpe S, 6: Rishard Matthews WR/RS, 6: Blake DeChristopher G/T, 7: BPA
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