Mock Draft Monday: Claiborne or...Jonathan Martin?

by Sander on Feb 13, 2012 12:02 PM EST in NFL Draft

While just two weeks ago the Tampa Bay Buccaneers draft day debate seemed to be focused on Trent Richardson and Morris Claiborne, I'm seeing a new trend in mock drafts: offensive tackles. Iowa offensive tackle Riley Reiff has been repeatedly mocked to the Bucs, and I've also seen Stanford OT Jonathan Martin pop by a couple of times.

Ryan Van Bibber's latest 2012 NFL Mock Draft doesn't feature an offensive tackle for the Bucs, as he continues to go with the sensible pick of cornerback Morris Claiborne. But a six-round mock draft posted at Mocking the Draft does give the Bucs an offensive tackle, and it surely isn't the only mock draft to do so.

The problem with selecting a tackle that high in the draft for the Bucs is two-fold: they don't need a left tackle as Donald Penn is perfectly fine in that position, and selecting a right tackle with the fifth overall pick is generally a poor use of your assets. The Bucs could still select a tackle with their first pick with the intention of moving him to left tackle once Donald Penn's contract runs out, but that's really the only scenario I see to justify such a selection.

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At This Point .......

I wanna trade down and come away with …….

CB: Dre kirkpatrick
LB: Vontaze Burflict
RB: Chris Polk

by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 13, 2012 12:12 PM EST reply actions

This would work

Regardless of what is done in free agency. I would rather have zach brown(fits our system better) but I doubt we get him and Dre. Burflict could be an absolute beast or an absolute bust. Has outstanding talent but he does have an attitude problem that could equal many penalties. If Schino can get him to play mistake free. I would LOVE to seem him dominate as a buccaneer

by gusjackson on Feb 13, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions

Greg Schiano Is The Rite Guy For Those Type Of Players .

He coached hard heads at miami .
Ill put bank rolls on it that he could have talib & burflict playing at a high level without off the field issues .

by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 13, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions

I believe that too

Still would rather have Zach Brown’s speed. He will move up many teams draft board as soon the combine starts.

by gusjackson on Feb 13, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions

Some Coaches .....

Just Have A Way Of Making Players See The Light & Whats Important And Most Of All How Great They Really Could Be .

by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 13, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions

Let's hope he is that coach.

In that case we wouldnt need to get rid of Talib lol.

by gusjackson on Feb 13, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions

I'd rather take David Wilson if he's available

He’s got good size, toughness, and that homerun threat that we currently lack.

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by ItaliaNole on Feb 13, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions

AGREE

And he can be a better reciever out of the backfield. He reminds me of Sproles that kind of threat

by plowboy30 on Feb 13, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions

He Also

Fumbles the ball & has had a nagging toe injury threw out his career .

by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 13, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah But

David Wilson is a better overall runner. Fumbles can be fixed by coaching. The guy is a burner and fits our physical running system.

by gusjackson on Feb 13, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions

I Like Him But .....

I Give Chris Polk The Nod , He’s More Complete To Me .

by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 13, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions

Been saying this forever

Seen this guy play live. He is fast and physical. Yes and a home run threat. The only problem is he will probably be gone in the second.

by gusjackson on Feb 13, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions

ME TOO

If you seen him live you know there is another late round gem in Danny Coale

by plowboy30 on Feb 13, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions

Yes!

He almost always seem to find a way to get open. I’m afraid he might get overlooked completely though. But he will surely get picked up by someone .

by gusjackson on Feb 13, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions

Hokies fan here!!

Trust me, this guy van be great. He has all the talent in the world, his only knock against him is his decision making at points, but that can be corrected with some NFL coaching.

by TerenceJ11 on Feb 13, 2012 3:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

ATH

Coale can run,block,pass,kick,return he will be with the right coach the next Welker

by plowboy30 on Feb 13, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions

Most of these mock drafts are baseless until we see how free agency plays out.

Love Buccaneers - Hate Glazer

by Bucs on Feb 13, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions

Only hope is to spend money in F/A

by plowboy30 on Feb 13, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions

We likely will

This year, we NEED to in order to be competitive.

by Gobucsgo on Feb 13, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions

Sense and non-sense along with choiceless choices; who knows?

So many expectations for Clairborne to be our 1st pick and who would be sad about that, but expect the unexpected. If Ronde agrees to come back and instead we come through in FA with a top tier corner, then look for fixing the O-Line. With moving Zuttah to center we could use the best guard on the draft and see about the best available tackle in the 2nd round. Just guessing. Not really a prediction.

by Chengdu Buc on Feb 13, 2012 2:46 PM EST reply actions

Fennigan

If we could pick up Cortland Finnagan in F/A then go with OG Riley Reiff for the OLINE

by plowboy30 on Feb 13, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions

I agree we need finnegan

but we also need Claiborne. I really dont see how we take a O-lineman in the first round. Maybe if Claiborne is gone at 5 and no one will trade down I can see that but even then we need at least 1 LB and our secondary is horrid. Is there any LBs worthy of a 5th overall?

by 37champs on Feb 13, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions

There are no LBs that currently appear to be worth a 5th overall pick.

As of right now, I would say there is only one OL worthy of that high pick, and that is Kalil. Of course, this is still very early in the process so a great combine could catapult Riley Reiff or Jonathan Martin into top 5 consideration, or even DeCastro at guard.

I think it’s unlikely, but it’s a possibility.

And plowboy, Riley Reiff plays Tackle, not Guard. While he probably CAN play Guard, he’s more of a RT with the potential to become a LT down the road.

by KRoa on Feb 13, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions

I would like to see us nab Morris Claiborne at Pick 5...

and an OL player in Round 2. Depending on who is left at that point, I think the realistic OL possibilities are:

1. C/OG Peter Konz – WIS
2. OT Mike Adams – Ohio St.
3. OG Kevin Zeitler – WIS
4. OG Kelechi Osemele – Iowa

I am hoping that one OL spot will be addressed via F/A and the other via the Draft. Likewise for a CB and LB. Bring back DT Haynesworth at a reworked salary level.

So in summary, I’d be very happy to see the 2012 Draft fall this way for us:

Round 1: CB Morris Claiborne
Round 2: C/OG Peter Konz
Round 3: OLB Ronnell Lewis (OK)
Round 5: RB Bobby Rainey (W. Ken)
Round 6: QB Kellen Moore (Boise St.)
Round 7: TE Rhett Ellison (USC)

by Cracker Ball on Feb 13, 2012 6:04 PM EST reply actions

Kellen Moore?

Guess I havnt thought about back up QB. I guess alot will determan the draft depending on what happens with FA but we need alot of help on D and I only see 2 defensive players on your draft list

by 37champs on Feb 13, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions

I want "plug and play" defensive help vis F/A...

like ILB Stephen Tulloch and CB Cortland Finnegan. We need defensive leaders – not rookies.

by Cracker Ball on Feb 13, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions

good point

man if we could land those 2 and pull Tjacks head out and keep Talib out of handcuffs this would be damn stout

by 37champs on Feb 13, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions

I fully expect Talib to be making license plates by fall...

so he is likely out of the picture. We have literally no one on our roster that can start at CB here.

by Cracker Ball on Feb 13, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions

lol

Im not sure I can watch Biggers another year. We need so much help in our secondary, I think even if we get Claiborne and Finnegan will need to draft another CB and cross our fingers

by 37champs on Feb 13, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions

Talib/claiborne sounds nice

by Carlitin1988 on Feb 13, 2012 6:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions

Claiborne/Talib/Carr

Sounds even better!! I’m a huge Claiborne fan, so as long as we draft him I’ll be happy!

by TerenceJ11 on Feb 13, 2012 7:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Some personal thoughts

Keep Claiborne at #1 (hoping he is still there, if not best available), I would prefer to see LB round 2, RB in round 3, TE or WR round 5, CB, OL, or safety round 6; CB, OL, or safety RD 7

Pick up a playmaker WR in FA like Colston or Desawn Jackson; pick up veteran lineman in FA (nicks?), pick up decent up and comer corner in FA (ideas?), pick up a veteran backup QB in free agency (I feel with good coaching and veterAn QB Freeman will develop quicker as this is a critical year for him and we need to invest in his growth), and maybe pick up one more decent to good safety in FA and pray like hell that Tanard Jackson comes back in 2010 form

I just read that Carolina needs to shed some salary as they are over cap for 2012. So they need to restructure some contracts. But Jeremy shockey is FA. Any thoughts on him and Winslow as 1,2 punch at TE? Could that work or is it a MAJOR stretch?

by gmaz1 on Feb 13, 2012 9:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Shockey has lost a significant step.

He wasn’t much of a factor in Carolina, despite Newton slinging the ball in every conceivable direction. Greg Olsen easily beat him out for the starting spot, and Shockey ended the season with a whopping 37 catches for 455 yards. Not bad production for a backup, but nowhere near enough for us to consider him a true asset.

I would rather see us make an effort to bring in someone like John Carlson from Seattle, who has had a few injuries and isn’t a giant receiving threat, but is still good at both receiving and blocking. Being able to do both would be a giant step up from Winslow, who made his name at being a receiving TE but now no longer has the physical talent to do so, and whose blocking is a liability.

Martellus Bennet, as mentioned elsewhere, would be another good TE to consider. He has the talent to be a good receiving TE (though he’s never been able to put it together on the field), and is also a good run blocker.

To be honest, I would like to see both of them brought in, Winslow cut and Stocker relegated to being a 3rd TE unless he manages to outplay one of these two or develops a bit. Winslow has lost enough of a step that he’s no longer a reliable security blanket and should be replaced, and Bennet and Carlson are two reliable veterans that both have significant upside, even if their ceiling isn’t as high as others’.

by KRoa on Feb 13, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions