Tampa Bay Buccaneers likely to have $63.2 million in 2012 salary cap space
by Sander on Feb 12, 2012 3:50 PM EST
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PrintAccording to Pro Football Talk, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are currently $25.05 million under the salary cap. The Bucs will be allowed to carry over all that salary cap space to next season. The Sun Sentinel estimated that the salary cap would be set at $124 million next season. Meanwhile, the Bucs have committed $93 million to the salary cap next season. Detract from that Albert Haynesworth's $7.2 million cap number, as the Bucs are exceedingly likely to cut him rather than paying him that kind of money, and we come up with the following number:
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers will likely have $63.2 million in salary cap space next season.
Holy cow, that's a lot of salary cap space. That's enough salary cap space to sign four or five top-tier free agents to big contracts. By frontloading those contracts (something they did last season with Quincy Black and Davin Joseph), the Bucs could ensure that their salary cap space in future years won't be threatened by hefty contracts.
Fans have been clamoring for free agency activity for years, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have made it subtly known that those fans will get what they want this offseason. The Bucs will be players in free agency - though to what extent is obviously still unclear. But the Bucs don't need to skimp on contracts to sign players - at least not for the sake of the salary cap.
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Wow, I can only hope we get 4 or 5 top tier free agents
Forte, Grimes, Nicks, Vincent Jackson, and DQwell Jackson please. I have a better chance of winning the lottery than that happening.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Till then we’re just getting a lot of lip service which is nothing new from current ownership.
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
Forte will simply cost us too much...
and may get franchised, like LB D’Qwell Jackson. But I do like the Carl Nicks, Vincent Jackson additions. I hope we come up with a taller CB than Grimes, as the trend in larger super athletic WRs give him a huge disadvantage in a jump-ball situation. I do hope for at least a near 6 footer that can jump.
I would also plug in Stephen Tulloch at MLB (despite his pass coverage shortcomings) because of his great run-stopping ability. Vontaze Burfict is a physical beast, but his ill temper and inability to contain himself when a cheap-shot presents itself, has me and many others, justifiably concerned.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 13, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
And how foolish would Chicago be if they did let him go? Their fans would literally riot lol.
He will likely be franchised...
as he means far too much to CHIs offense to let him go. If he did hit the open market, his cost would be too exorbitant to consider, based on the volume of our needs.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 13, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
he is a playmaker but dont know that he is worth his weight in gold so to speak based on what we need. Now if we spent that equivalent though in FA to get starter quality defensmen we would be in competitive form.
If Forte did hit the FA market
I would not be upset if the Bucs brought him in, even if they paid slightly too much for him. Forte is an elite back, especially out of the backfield.
Even behind an offensive line easily much worse than the Bucs, Forte still put up very good numbers. And that was with every opposing team knowing that Forte was the only player they truly needed to stop, as the Bears had not a single WR to make a d-coord stop and think, and a QB known nearly as well for gambling as Favre was.
Need to improve our OL first...
We have 2 big holes to address – C and RT. Make it 3 holes if you want to upgrade OG at one position. Joseph and Penn are the only keepers here.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 14, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Getting Forte wouldn't prevent us from doing so.
We have roughly $60 million of cap. We could offer large contracts to several players and still have room left over.
I hate to see us get in a bidding war for Forte...
as he would be a great addition to our team. Based on the volume of our current pressing needs, I would be more inclined to sign a Ryan Grant and pursue some other players – instead of just chasing one superstar.
Making some moves before the draft changes our drafting strategy.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 18, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
I agree... he is far too valuable to CHI
We need to make other RB plans. Since we have very little behind Blount, I expect new faces.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 18, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know.
I mean i know their history. But i got a feeling the owners are finally hearing the whims of the fans.
You know since they bought the team, they really haven’t experienced anything like the have the last few years. Ticket sales are plummeting, Fan are in outrage, They’re reputation is coming into question. This has been some of the most negative years coming from our fan base. It seems they finally feel the pressure.
With that said, I actually believe they are going to try and put a winning product on the field this coming year. I don’t know if we will go all 2011 Eagles and pick every single FA available. I believe(hope) they will approach FA similar to the coaching search(minus the wait) and pick very smart pieces to fit into this puzzle.
I hope you're right.
I simply refuse to get my hopes up though…
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
I hope your right
We have so many needs to address and a strong FA can make us competitive again. We reside in a very string conference and can compete with the other teams with as you say a few pieces to the puzzle.
There are quality players OTHER than your list
Not that if we got your list I would be complaining.
Here is my list
RB Ray Rice (Rutgers anyone?) This one is like a million to 1 shot
WR Mike Wallace …unlike Desean Jackson he truly IS a #1 receiver
Safety LeRon Landry
Linebacker: Stephen Tulloch
If we picked those guys up I would totally have a boner! :) Just kidding…
by SkydivePaul on Feb 13, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Mike Wallace is a restricted free agent
and will surely get a first round tender. The Bucs aren’t going to give up the #5 pick for him. I agree he would look great in pewter, but it ain’t gonna happen.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Plus even if we decide to try and pick him up
The Steelers would have the opportunity to match whatever contract we offer him, and I’m betting they would choose to do so.
The only thing
is the steelers are pretty close on the cap. they are already going to likely cut ward. and who knows who else.
Glazernik needs to make some of that
Extra money make sense.
by GoBuxGo on Feb 12, 2012 4:36 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agency/Need Board .
OG: Carl Nicks
OT: Anthony Collins
WR: Desean Jackson
DE: Calais Campbell
LB: Curtis Lofton
CB: Brandon Carr
SS: Laron Landry
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 12, 2012 4:43 PM EST reply actions
Im Not Saying We Are Gonna Get All Of Those Guys Either .
But a combination of them would improve our team .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 12, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
In addition
We could use:
RB- to compliment Blount
TE- too add some talent and depth
QB- definitely need a backup to Freeman, preferably a veteran
by gmaz1 on Feb 12, 2012 5:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And If So Our Draft Board Could Be Something Like This .
RB:
Trent Richardson
Lamar Miller
David Wilson
Chis Polk
WR:
Justin Blackmon
Kendall Wright
Tommy Streeter
Travis Benjamin
TE:
Orson Charles
LB:
Vontaze Burflict
Lavonte David
Sean Spence
Travis Lewis
CB:
Morris Claibourne
Dre KirkPatrick
Alfonzo Dennard
Janoris Jenkins
SS:
Mark Barron
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 12, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Multiple First Rd Picks On The Board In Case ......
Teams With Multiple Picks Trade Up With Us .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 12, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Like your thinking
But we may want to also pick up a lineman or two in the draft? Would love to see what you think there.
by gmaz1 on Feb 12, 2012 8:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I Believe ...
That unless you get the stud linemen that are usually at the top of the draft , You get guys that are solid or at least proven in free agency .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 12, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Richardson presents tremendous value .....
Trent Richardson might be the best player in the draft, but the running back from Alabama is not assured of being a top-10 pick.
The evolution of the NFL into a passing league has diminished the value of Richardson’s position, and teams are more inclined to bypass a potential feature back in the first round in hopes of finding Pro Bowl-caliber backs in the later rounds. A quick look at the top five rushers from last season validates this point, with Maurice Jones-Drew (second-round pick), Ray Rice (second), Michael Turner (fifth), LeSean McCoy (second) and Arian Foster (undrafted) setting the pace, despite entering the league as lesser-known commodities.
That’s why the valuation of Richardson doesn’t match his talents. With an exceptional combination of speed, quickness and power, Richardson is a feature runner capable of grinding between the tackles or producing big plays on the perimeter. He routinely strings together three- and four-yard gains before breaking off explosive runs as defenders wear down in the game’s late stages. He finished the season with nine 100-yard games, with most of his production coming in the SEC. Given the conference’s esteemed reputation in NFL circles, scouts view Richardson’s output as a strong indicator of his pro potential.
In looking at Richardson’s flaws, his tendency to stop his feet in the hole comes to mind. Unlike some runners who slither through gaps on an assortment of lateral moves and jump cuts, Richardson routinely stops and starts in the hole before getting up the field. While he has been able to get away with the hesitation as a collegian, the speed of NFL defenders could lead to Richardson posting more negative runs as a pro.
When making comparisons for Richardson, the first runner who comes to mind is Ricky Williams. Both are rugged runners with better-than-anticipated breakaway speed, and their ability to play with finesse or power puts defenders in a quandary. Richardson certainly lacks Williams’ eccentric persona, but his game and skill set could make him just as productive as Ricky at his finest.
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 12, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
You need to add LaMichael James to that list.
He is a perfect compliment back to Blount. I agree Richardson and Miller are beasts in respect. But we can nab LMJ in round 2 or 3. And even if we did get Richardson, I would still like us to get LMJ to play a similar role as Sproles. The kid is a burner and a playmaker. Just get the ball in his hands in open space.
Cant Stay Healthy
He isnt durable , If he couldnt stay healthy at oregon in the pac 12 , He definley wont survive in tampa .
The difference between james , sproles , & mccluster is they had less injurys in tougher conferences like the sec & big 12 .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 13, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Add Him To The List .....
The expectations are that Marcus McNeil will be released by San Diego and he could be a good fit
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 12, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
but when you have money
All you have to worry about is love.
No... it can't but love
but it can certainly rent the kind you’ve always wanted.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 13, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone know the latest on Desean and the Eagles?
And Stevie Johnson are the Bills keeping him?
by bucswillwin on Feb 12, 2012 5:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't think hell be an eagle again
by Carlitin1988 on Feb 12, 2012 5:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm from Buffalo
To answer your question bucswillwin, the Bills are on the fence about Stevie. Players have been publicly advocating for him to stay for the past month, but Gailey doesn’t really want him because he feels he doesn’t have enough discipline. I’m from Buffalo but I’m loyal to Tampa & would like him to bring his services here. He’ll be a far cheaper option at WR (The Glazers would like that) than V. Jackson, Colston & D. Jackson. And he’s more proven than Meachem.
by InfamousHp on Feb 12, 2012 6:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think Robert Meacham has proven himself well...
but sadly for him, NO is very deep at WR so his playing time is limited. Not the case here.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 13, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Desean Jackson
Not likely to be an eagle, he wants more than they think he is worth (especially after last seasons antics) and they already mentioned they wont tag him. Welcome to Tampa hopefully.
^^^^ Retracting now
Most recent update via http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20120213_report_eagles_will_use_franchise_tag_on_desean_jackson states he will get tagged. Ugh!!!
My list would be
FA’s- Go after Vincent Jackson, Laron Landry Carr and a LB
Draft-
1st- Morris Claiborne
2nd- David Wilson or Zach Brown if he falls
3rd- LMJ if we dont get a RB in the 2nd
by TerenceJ11 on Feb 12, 2012 5:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
My FA Wishlist
Back Up QB- Jason Campbell
WR – Vincent Jackson and Manningham or Ted Ginn (KR/PR)
TE – Scott Chandler good back up receiving TE we can run 2 TE sets w/ Winslow now
OL – Carl Nicks And Jeff Backus
LB – D’Qwell Jackson and Curtis Lofton
DB- Brent Grimes, Finnegan… If we have to go with Carr, Carlos Rogers, Terrell Thomas, or Aaron Ross I am cool with those as well.
FS/SS – Michael Griffin and LaRon Landry
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I just have two requests
1) Don’t overspend
2) Get the best players to fit needs at CB, S, LB and ROT.
With all that cap space, the team HAS to make serious moves for at least a decent CB…
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My list would be
OG – Carl Nicks or Ben Grubbs
WR – DeSean Jackson
LB – Curtis Lofton
CB – Brandon Carr or Cortland Finnegan or Brent Grimes, any of them would do nicely
S – LaRon Landry
You Forgot A Few Positions
I think I named every need, but DeSean Jackson would be a good number 2 not a number 1 like Mike Williams is a good number 2, but not a number 1. Bowe, Jackson, Wayne, Colston even, all good number 1 receivers. We could also look at Brandon Lloyd and Stevie Johnson, if they’re not resigned.
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Jackson is a #1
He demands and beats double teams. Requires a safety over the top on virtually every play.
by flash_kiley on Feb 12, 2012 7:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
On Vertical Passes
You put him in press coverage he is not going to snag the ball between two defenders being in NY I see a bunch of Giants/Philly Games he’s never been able to beat a press double team he’s a very good number 2, but he’s no number 1
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Not sure how many teams are willing to press him with his acceleration.
And there are ways to get around that (motion, have him be the off the line of scrimmage), but I see your point.
by flash_kiley on Feb 12, 2012 7:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I Rather Go With A Proven 1
Bowe (Probably Franchised Though), Vincent Jackson if we give him about 40 to 50 million, Wayne he is older, but still has talent could get him for about 3 or 4 yrs 20 to 25 million
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That is part of my allure with D Jack.
He can probably get us the most production without breaking the bank. Vincent Jackson and Bowe are better overall receivers, but will probably cost a lot more.
by flash_kiley on Feb 12, 2012 7:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Jackson Will Break Bank 2
He’s not going to be cheap he is going to demand almost 7 to 9 million, Bowe is going to be about 9 to 10 million so is Vincent Jackson, so I rather just give it to One of them over him. D, Jackson (24) contract probably be 5yrs 35 million, Bowe (26) contract should be about 6yrs 50 million, Vincent Jackson (29) about 5yrs 40 to 50 million
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well this last year hurt deseans chances too
I think 7mil a year for him sounds fair.
by Carlitin1988 on Feb 12, 2012 8:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
But Due to His Stupidity
He will probably get about 5 to 6 million thanks to his failed season
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I think the glazers are forced into a corner where they have to spend in free agency
by Carlitin1988 on Feb 12, 2012 8:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The Roster Is So Bad
Of course they have to spend on FA’s look at the holes in the roster. No back-up QB, need another RB, need a big play WR, a blocking/receiving TE, OL – Guard, MLB, and entire secondary needs to be rebuilt both CB’s and Both Safeties, maybe T. Jackson can stay he ight, but Sean Jones is a good back-up not a starter
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He wants 5 years $50 million with close to 20 guaranteed
Good luck Rah. Bring us Mo Claiborne and replace Geno, Quincy, and Sean Jones!
Your right, but
He could get pressed 95% of the game but he’ll draw double coverage on every route beyond 7yrds. Teams respect his speed bottom line & no WR on our roster threatens a defense. He’s a legitimate downfield threat (& his PR skills) which make him worth his weight in gold for Tampa, regardless if he’s a #1 or 2 WR. De’sean’s deep presence will allow others to flourish underneath (Just like it did in Philly) Assuming he doesn’t get tagged.
by InfamousHp on Feb 12, 2012 10:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Colston
I think a guy like Colston could change the whole dynamic of this offense. With him (Colston) and mike Williams #1 and #2, and a pick up of a complementary RB to share snaps with Blount, Our entire offense changes. May need at least one more solid lineman and another TE wouldn’t hurt. My point with all this is we really ate not that far off. But that Colston is a playmaker.
by gmaz1 on Feb 12, 2012 9:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I like your list...
but i would prefer bowe over jackson
Either Of Them
Would be a great pickup for this roster but the money has to be right in the contract
I Maybe Wrong But I Doubt It
no one is really naming a RT?
Who would anyone pick for that spot. FA or Draft?
I like Jared Gaither, but there is risk
He had back problems 2 years ago, but came back and did pretty well last year. If he’s over the back issues, he’d be a great RT, if not then I still can’t imagine he’d be worse than Trueblood even if he was on IR. Playing with 4 linemen and one on IR is about the same as 5 with Trueblood in there.
I'd love to use Free agents to fill holes
Then just pick best available talent in the draft.
Short List
LB D’Qwell Jackson
CB Brandon Carr/Carlos Rodgers/Brent Grimes (either one)
OL Ben Grubbs
WR Pierre Garçon
by GoBuxGo on Feb 12, 2012 7:31 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
We don't have to reach the floor yet, right?
We’ll probably settle for a Sean Jones type addition if thats the case.
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Oh, and a pro-bowl longsnapper!
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
What makes you think the glazers will spend a dollar on free agents?
We might use that cash to resign our guys, but there is near zero chance we sign any top tier free agents.
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That's what history says will happen, I hope not
by Carlitin1988 on Feb 12, 2012 9:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Tampa never has an easy time signing free agents to begin with
It’s a 3rd rate city, yeah that sucks and it means our sports franchises have to pay a bit more to bring in talent or keep it, but it really sucks that the owners don’t care about winning.
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 12, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
It's not a 3rd rate city. It's a top 20 US TV market with 3 pro teams.
I can name you many cities around the US that are third rate. Tampa isn’t one of them.
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It's 3rd rate, there are no major corporations, no sponsers, no real economy and only a small percentage will live in the area longer then 5-10 years.
Most people are from out of state and have no loyalty.
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 12, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Whereas, insurance giant Geiko is located in Buffalo. I wouldn't consider that a first rate city either.
Besides, there are several large corporations in town. Outback, Raymond James Financial, TECO Energy. Tampa is the 14th highest ranked US TV market. It didn’t get that way by accident.
At least bring a few facts to back up your arguments.
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by Bucs on Feb 12, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Tv Market is so high because so many people are out of working and watching it from home.
Sorry but this region will not be very attractive to a free agent.
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 13, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Money talks.
If we are willing to throw the bank at some players. they will come. WILL they is the main question.
Sure they will, but we will have to offer more then most cities to get them to come here
I’d rather not over pay a player.
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 13, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
We are in position
To overpay alittle bit. I’m not saying go Redskins crazy. But they are in position to outbid just about anyone.
Solid detective work. Care to explain why the TV market was ranked that high when the economy was great? Or why it hasn't changed much in over a decade?
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 13, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Viewing Rating has nothing to do with it
Viewing rating when talking about the economy has to do with the viewing during daytime. Monday-Friday 9-5 is when most of the working class would be working. In a bad economy with not many jobs people are watching tv more……watching more soap operas. NFL games are on Sunday when 90 percent of people don’t work anyway. Your statistic means nothing for this football conversation.
TV ratings don't mean that much anyways.
Unless the area has money to spend, and it doesn’t. A player cna take far less money in Dallas and make more money via local sponsorships then it could in tampa. That’s what you are up against.
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 13, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Yes and No
Yes but you don’t have to be in Dallas, New York, LA(California) to get endorsement deals in the NFL. Its not like the NBA or MLB in which you pretty much have to. Example Arron Rogers, small market still gets his money in endorsements. Pittsburgh was never known as a place for people to money outside of football. They still attract. Baltimore is another example. If you asked me would I rather live in Tampa Bay or Baltimore, I would be on the next flight out! Endorsement deals in the NFL come from performance. NOT THE CITY!
They come from football cities with local fan bases.
Tampa doesn’t have that.
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 13, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Neither did Baltimore
when they started. They didn’t even want to support the team after they lost their old one overnight. Indi did not have one either. And for that matter the opposite. The Redskins and Raiders have some of the most passionate fans in sports. They are still bad and don’t attract free agents without breaking the bank!
what big free agents has b-more been able to land
The skins and raiders have a tradition of losing. Same with tampa. This is a big factor too.
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 13, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Anquan Boldin
The Redskins and Raiders have a tradition of losing LATELY. If this was 10 years ago we would be saying how great they were. Multiple super bowl appearances. They have tradition of being storied winning franchise if you can take the goggles off the last 10 years.
But they have a pretty damn impressive list
Shanon Sharp
Rod Woodson
Matt Birk
Deion Sanders(lol)
Derrick Mason
he was traded, and players are 30 and under
they see oakland and DC as losers.
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 13, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention
Philly(9th largest city with low income) got a mess of free agents last year in a low income. Its more than just your city. It’s whether or not you can be a star in the place that wants you. Seeing how we have an OC that made stars out of good WR. He may be able to attract some. The only problem is we have no bargaining chip for the defense. We cant tell free agents "hey Butch Davis will be your……overseeer.
are you serious?
please stop…. just stop. you dont know what you are talking about as usual and its just utter rigamorle
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I work in an industry where TV market rankings mean billions of dollars.
You really don’t know what you’re talking about.
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 13, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
It sure ain't sweet tomatos
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
I couldn't really follow your post. But average television households, population, retail sales in the market and gross television revenue have a lot to do with football.
It’s a business. Not everything that you see is played on the field.
These rankings aren’t based on Monday-Friday viewers. It’s based on total television households.
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As long as you have a television in your house, you’re a statistic that is worth a lot of money to teams and the league.
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by Bucs on Feb 13, 2012 4:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
we can make a run if we make a push in FA like the eagles did last year.
I believe we are a few FA’s away and a couple of draft picks. One dynamic draft pick is necessary
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I would prefer to NOT do like the Eagles.
You seen what happened to them. Fully Star studded and went no where. All we need to do is sprinkle in a few FA and have another strong Draft and we will be fine.
i disagree. with the eagles they already had stars to begin with. we have none.
and we have no veterans. im not saying we need an allstar cast but us getting alot of FA’s that are good can be the key along with the draft.
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i can agree with that.
My question is what are our needs versus whats actually available in the FA’s. What position do we go after hard because lack of talent? Like should we go hard for Nicks/Grubbs instead of a burner WR, and just hope to land one in the draft? etc etc. That is honestly what i am most curious about.
Yea i wouldnt be too pressed about Guard in FA but its an option in FA. Otherwise address it in the draft
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We should go hard at CB. Get 2 of them. One WR with speed and at least one LB or O lineman
whatever isnt addressed in FA should be addressed in the draft. if o line isnt addressed in FA then do it in the draft. CBs needs to be the number one priority in FA. Second would be WR. I really dont want to take a gamble on another wide receiver with speed and is a vet.
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I Already Named Everything
Back Up QB, WR, TE, OL ,OLB, MLB , 2 DB’s, FS or SS All our needs right there
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Wish list of free agents...
WR – Desean Jackson for pure speed, we already have big possession type guys.
OT – Jared Gaither would be nice if healthy and he sure seemed to be healthy to finish the year.
LB – D’Qwell Jackson
DB – Brandon Carr
If we could get those 4, we could draft enough to make this team competitive. Even if we missed on DJ, just having a good RT would help the O, and we’d have helped 2 key spots on D. We could draft Claiborne to pair with Carr (I’m not counting on Talib at all for next year) or trade down to get a LB in the middle of Rnd 1 and a couple extra picks. There are a few good 3rd down RB options in the mid rounds. Get a LB in Rnd 2 and find an OG at some point to push Larsen/Zuttah.
But all of this is speculation that any of these guys (or more) will be available to us when FA hits. We still don’t know who’s getting resigned by their old team, who’s getting tagged, or who would be willing to sign with us. Use Sproles as an example there, he only had a couple teams he wanted to play for last year, and we weren’t one of them. Didn’t matter the contract we offered.
My Wist List is.
Draft:
Round 1: Morris Claiborne(CB)
Round 2: (trade Up if needed) Zack Brown/Vontaze David(olb)
Round 3: LaMichael James(rb)
Round 4: OT/OG
FA:
CB: top 5( you know the names)
WR: Deep Threat ( prolly top 5)(again you know the names)
MLB: i would like to see us get one of the top 5 but i don’t think we will. Dan Connor is a good prospect from Carolina.(can kick Foster outside with new Draft pick)
RB: GOOD 3rd down back (no more Plumpkin)(plenty of them out there this year)
TE: Todd Heap anyone?
Round off with veteran DB, O-line, DT
That 5th Pick
Will be clear when we see what we do in FA, but how about if we sign 2 CB’s and still draft Claiborne that would be something insane 2 see especially if it were Finnegan and Grimes. We’ll have to wait one more month to see what we do
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that right there is just too much in my opinion. Looks good on paper but too much invested in Cbs for me.
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Your wish list.
We don’t need to use another first round draft pick on defense thats needs to be address in FA. We need vet leadership on that side of the ball. Plus MC hasn’t shown enough to be worthy of that high of a pick. He wasn’t the best db on that team so why draft him that high. We draft tr and our offense is upgraded with a playmaker not jus another pond the ball back. All the things blount can’t do tr can. That way we can use blount like he suppose to which is a brandon jacobs role.
Morris Claiborne IS the best back on that team
I hope your not thinking of tyrann
by Carlitin1988 on Feb 13, 2012 10:22 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
What has Claiborne not done this year??
He is the best at his position in this draft far and away.
by flash_kiley on Feb 13, 2012 10:49 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
He is clearly head-and-shoulders above any other CB prospect...
and will likely reinforce this in the upcoming draft. Our pursuit of F/As (or lack thereof) will alter our draft strategy, and I hope we can solidly fill a couple of starting spots, in that way, before the Draft arrives in April.
Much can be done here, but Dom/Glazers will need to think and react much more quickly than they did during our head coaching search.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 13, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Imagine how many times the Glazers can hit up the dollar menu at McDonalds...
Nevermind, they probably own it already.
Here's a name that ive thrown out before but and will be a good FA pickup. Martellus Bennett
His brother Michael plays here and could be that guy at TE. Physical beast and a good blocker. Very underused at Dallas.
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him being a underachiever in dallas is not his fault in my opinion noting the fact of the offense he played in.
How much was he supposed to do behind witten, austin, and dez bryant? He was underused if anything. And he fits the mold of a great TE physically. Im just saying with a new team it could make a difference. Could be like Michael Turner was when he was in San Diego then blew up when he went to ATL.
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Underachiever in pass catching yes, but...
He’s one of the best run blocking TEs in the game. PFF rated him as their #1 run blocking TE in 2011, 2nd in 2010, and 5th in 2009.
SIgning Bennett would automatically make 2 TE sets viable and bring in a solid blocker for obvious running downs.
I’d be down with this move.
yea hes a great blocker and i also feel that he has the potential to be a good pass catching TE.
He was limited in targets due to Witten, Bryant, and Austin. He was banged up as well but i like him.
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Yeah
Sounds like he would work in short yardage 2 TE sets and redzone situations, where Winslow is not as useful. Besides think we need to replace him if not this year then definitely next.
He pushes off a lot everywhere. I like bennett too
by Carlitin1988 on Feb 13, 2012 2:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Winslow
Puches off because he can no longer get seperation based on speed, Thats why I would give him a year or two then replace him. preferably sooner rather than later and I strongly think his contract should be renegotiated ASAP.
Yeah but.....
but the headache. He doesn’t fit the “Buccaneer Way” If we see a TE that is out that and can replace him. We should pull the trigger.
^^ Agree
He is falling off faster and harder every year. We need to replace him but have so many needs we could let him slide one more year but give him the axe then. Plus restructure his deal now! save some cap space for new blood worth their salt.
Like he was going to usurp Jason Witten?
He is an underachiever, but he’s worth kicking the tires on in a horrible year for tight ends in free agency. As fatmosh said below he is also an excellent blocking tight end, which would fit in well with what Schiano has publicly stated he wants to do offensively.
He can also probably be had for fairly cheap. He has upside. I’d be in favor of it. Classic low risk, high reward free agent signing.
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I Really Dont Like The Stevie Johnson Talk ..........
He dosent bring a diffrent skill set apart from what we already have .
His game is similar to receivers we have , If we gonna go get a wideout they need to be top 5 in the league
(vincent jackson caliber) or something we need like speed (desean jackson) .
Not just a guy because he on sportscenter and you know his name .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 13, 2012 12:05 PM EST reply actions
Jamichael Finley
Whats The Deal With Him ?
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Feb 13, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions
Will almost surely be franchised.
I doubt they wanna pay the franchise rate for quarterbacks to Matty Flynn.
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They can't afford to pay the QB franchise rate.
It would put them over the cap, so to even consider franchising Matt Flynn so they can trade him they would need to restructure several contracts or cut some players.
DONT want Stevie Johnson
he’s annoying and hes NOT gonna fit Schiano’s “Buccaneer Way” which I am 100% on board with Schiano people that are humble we need and has anyone talked about a possible Mario Williams at OLB?? Pick him and Dan Connor up move Foster to OLB and were done their and Robert Mathis? move Bowers to D-Tackle for a couple seasons and Bennet alternate anywhere on the D-line where hes needed plus Landry would be a good fit and Griffin get him as well to go along with Carr and Claiborne thats our defense all we need drop Talib and keep Ronde offense get Grant Witten Bowe and Nicks thats it.
No one is talking about Mario Williams at OLB for a reason.
That reason is that the only defense Williams can play OLB for is a 3-4 team, which we are not. In a 4-3 scheme like we run, Mario Williams is a DE.
Picking up old man Robert Mathis would be a poor move. He still has talent, but there is a reason the Colts are not likely to keep him, and that’s because he’s not going to be around long enough to justify the kind of contract he’ll probably get. We’re pretty well set on our d-line regardless, with plenty of depth and some good pieces that will hopefully develop. What would be the point in moving Bowers inside to play DT? He’d be a pretty undersized DT, and not likely what we would need there. We already have smallish, penetrating DTs in GMC and Price. I can see putting Bowers inside in an obvious passing situation, but for a full-time position, hell no.
And your picks for offense amount to a pipe dream. Witten and Nicks will not be coming to Tampa because they will never be allowed to leave their teams. Bowe is a possibility, but it’s still more likely then not that the Chiefs keep him. And Ryan Grant? Why? He’s beat up and not durable. He’s lost most of the flash he had during his one really good season with the Packers, and is now just another RB.
We may be able to get Tom Brady for 8 first round picks
and maybe a 4th round pick.
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Wouldnt want him
he is successful because he is a product of his system. plus he is aging. Dont want him.
We won't even have the opportunity to talk to Nicks about coming to Tampa.
If the Giants don’t get a long-term deal done with him, they will franchise him. There is no way they’re going to let their best receiver (who is rather young, I might add) walk away. Especially when Nicks causes no headaches, a la Brandon Jacobs.
Nicks will not be leaving New York. End of pipe dream.
You Got The Wrong Nicks
We’re talking about Carl Nicks from NO the Guard not the Giants WR.
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Hakeem Nicks signed a five year contract in 2009 when he was drafted.
They are referring to the guard from N’Awleans. He will be overpaid. I’d prefer Ben Grubbs. Might be the steal of this free agent class.
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That was stupid of me lol.
I didn’t bother to check his contract status, just saw the name “Nicks” being floated and thought of the Giants WR, rather than Carl Nicks lol.
As for Carl Nicks, there’s a good possibility we can get him for fair market-value, which would be roughly what his NO guard-partner got during his recent contract extension.
Ben Grubbs might be had at a lower cost, but it really depends on if the Ravens decide they can do without him or not. I don’t think they have a real replacement ready for him to leave, so they may do what they can to keep him.
wow this sounds like some madden franchise type stuff lol
Yea dont see it happening nor the reason to do this anyways.
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Besides addressing our Secondary and LB
Vincent Jackson if available should be our top priority to acquire. He would fit perfect with Freeman and become a safety blanket to him. He’s not just a deep speed threat like DJax, he can go deep, go across the middle and is excellent at jump balls!
by TerenceJ11 on Feb 13, 2012 4:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Well
D. Jackson is being franchised by Philly, so at this moment that leaves Bowe, Vincent Jackson, Colston, and Reggie Wayne
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I seen that
I put that about DJax because I’ve seen where people were taking him over other WR’s. I’m happy that Eagles r planning that, because even though DJax is very talented he’s also very immature and quits during games and we don’t need that here at all!!
by TerenceJ11 on Feb 13, 2012 5:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Realistically
Bowe, Vincent Jackson and Colston are likely to hit the open market. The rest we either dont want or will be tagegd. I prefer Vincent jackson as he serves two purposes, 1. Deep threat 2. Big redzone target. Bowe would also fill these two roles but not quite as well as Jax
Bowe would be able to fill those roles nearly as well as V-Jax
And would be able to do so for quite a long time. Bowe’s work ethic has been traditionally called into question, but if the last two years are any indication he seems to have gotten past that. To me, I think Bowe is also more physically gifted than Jackson.
If Schiano can keep Bowe focused and on point, I think he would be a far superior signing to Vincent Jackson, both in the short- and long-term.
good points
But Bowe has not really impressed me, maybe thats a result of the system he was in or the coaching as well. but he just doesnt strike me as much of an impact player as v-jax. dont get me wrong the guy is talented and we should welcome him if we could, but I would like to v-jax here over bowe.
Bowe V Vincent Jackson
Only reason I would go with Bowe over Vincent Jackson is age 26 v 29 we could give Bowe a 6yr deal and he will be about 32 when the deal is up and could still be resigned to about a 3 to 4 yr deal after the fact which would keep him in Tampa for the next decade. Vincent Jackson could get a 6yr deal, but he will be 35 after that deal is done and may have about 2 yrs left in the tank after that.
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