BCS National Championship Open Thread: LSU vs Alabama
by Sander on Jan 9, 2012 8:02 PM EST
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PrintThe BCS National Championship is on tonight, as LSU will face Alabama in a battle for who has the best NFL talent. Or something.
Lots of NFL-quality players will be playing on both teams, with RB Trent Richardson, CB Morris Claiborne and CB Dre Kirkpatrick being possible targets for the Bucs with their fifth overall draft pick. In addition, S Mark Barron, DE Sam Montgomery, WR Rueben Randle, DE Courney Upshaw and LB Don'ta Hightower could all be first-round draft picks once everything is said and done.
Check out some stories on these draft prospects:
LSU, Alabama loaded with NFL Prospects - Sports Illustrated
Alabama and LSU underclassmen will shape 2012 NFL Draft - Mocking the Draft
This year's draft or next, LSU defensive line filled with first rounders - Mocking the Draft
LSU CB Morris Claiborne better than Patrick Peterson? - Mocking the Draft
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Trent
TR is going to kill LSU defense and maze is going to have a big game 100+ receiving yards two td TR 131 rush yards and 1 rushing td one caught TD and kirkpatric 1 int return and fumble recoverd roll tide
by Jediel3 on Jan 9, 2012 8:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Trent
TR is going to kill LSU defense and maze is going to have a big game 100+ receiving yards two td TR 131 rush yards and 1 rushing td one caught TD and kirkpatric 1 int return and fumble recoverd roll tide
by Jediel3 on Jan 9, 2012 8:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He's an Australian
Ex-Rugby guy with a bolt of lightning for a leg
by GoBuxGo on Jan 9, 2012 8:35 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I almost forgot that Dre Kirkpatrick is in this game
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
He's looking good, eh sander?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Love his demeanor & physicality
More aggressive than Claiborne. Raheem Morris would have loved that.
Jordan Jefferson is awful
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
I think his instincts fit a safety more.
But he’s still young.
Not really, he's doing a good job shutting down most routes so far
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Trent Richardson doing very little this game
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
I am officially bored of these announcers
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Musburger and Herbstriet are the beat in the business
by GoBuxGo on Jan 9, 2012 9:13 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
early Saban made mistakes first game
Richarson early and all else fell asleep..He knows Richarson will stay focused,,he is a gamer..He will out coach Les Miles badly
Will those trick pass plays work in the NFL?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
*Punt plays
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
D.J. Fluker is a good OT
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
It is!
I know cb is a necessity but Trent and Blount would be fearsome.
by bucswillwin on Jan 9, 2012 9:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Blocked by a DT named Blockers (there is indeed Irony)
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Hey Sander
Or anybody..I read in another post are we rumored to bringing in Nolan as a DC?
by TampaBayAllTheWayFromCaliforni-A on Jan 9, 2012 9:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Where do you get your Canfora updates?
I know he is a big twitter guy
by TampaBayAllTheWayFromCaliforni-A on Jan 9, 2012 9:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Doesn't he run a 3-4
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
He's always run a two-gap 3-4
It’s what he does. If you don’t want him to run that, need to hire someone else.
How do you guys feel? I'd like it
by TampaBayAllTheWayFromCaliforni-A on Jan 9, 2012 9:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I see what your saying
Persoanlly I think Bowers and Bennett would be good stand up edge rushers but also know Clayborn/Bowers/Bennett would also be very suspect in pass coverage
by TampaBayAllTheWayFromCaliforni-A on Jan 9, 2012 9:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Run Richardson or I won't ever jump on his bandwagon
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
LSU's run defense is really good
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Bama's OL is really damn good
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Agree
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
It kinda looks like he just tries to slow down the ball carrier until the rest of his defense can get over to help
Which isn’t always a bad thing
If there's one defensive position where you can get away with not wanting to tackle, it's cornerback
I don’t like it, though.
I don't think he is Asante Samuel bad.
But it all depends on what kind of defense we run. If we need physical corners like Talib, then maybe he isn’t a good fit.
Oderint dum metuant
Richardson has good vision, really good vision
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
He is the next MJD
If we didn’t miss on Myeon Lewis, Talib and crew, then ge would be a great pick at #5.
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 9, 2012 9:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's not MJD, more of a Steven Jackson
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Michael Turner is stronger, but has less vision
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
And no lateral agility
Michael Turner can’t even execute a normal jump-cut, let alone a Richardson jump-cut.
Thus, the Giants shut him down
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Turner is not stronger..
Richardson will open eyes in the combine..In both strenth and the shuttle..
He might/might not- not going to hold it against or for him
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
With less injury concerns
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno.
I believe Jackson is a bit bigger and stronger. Plus he runs like a wild horse.
I dont think there is a RB on the planet stronger than TR.
You’ll see at the combine. He may squat 650lbs. He benches more than the Alabama linemen.
There is no scalp under Trent Richardson's hair
Only another fist.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
by RookTakesYou on Jan 10, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Not @ #5, if we trade down- maybe
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Im thinking somewhere like #15
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
no way..CINCI would trade up for him they have 2 first rounders..
he could help put them over the top…Clev..if they draft rg3 they have a weapon then.. HELL Ne Belichec is a d-coach at heart u dont think he would want to shrten a game when need be? he was 16-0 last time he had a decent back..
Belichick never trades up, he trades down or for future pickss
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
This is late but interesting
Tebow got plenty of attention on Twitter last night for another reason. The Associated Press NFL account @AP_NFL noted that he recorded 316 passing yards and 31.6 yards per pass, interesting since he is a fan of the Bible verse John 3:16. The stat was passed around the social network all night.
Not to get religious,
but 1 Timothy 3:16 is much more easily identified with the way people talk about Tebow.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
Why is Richardson not playing in the Red Zone?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
lol they cant piss me off because we will draft him regardless
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
yea i dont care if we get him at 5 or 15. we need to get him.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
'Bama has the best fat guys in the business
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Stop being terrible Jefferson.
You’re in a championship game.
Jordan Jefferson-still awful
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Claiborne has good footwork for a Corner
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Have they thrown at Claiborne once?
Seems like they are only attacking the other side of the field.
Oderint dum metuant
Attacking Mathieu
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
They will eventually
Let’s see if he’ll make a play worth going at 5
by GoBuxGo on Jan 9, 2012 9:50 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'd like to see the Honey Badger making plays in Tampa one day
by TampaBayAllTheWayFromCaliforni-A on Jan 9, 2012 9:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He's short for a corner
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Ronde has/had other skills that make him good- not seeing that with Mathieu
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Not now- he isn't. He's lost physicality with his age
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Bigger WR's will carve him up
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Except Ronde can play outside coverage
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
He learned how to play outside over time.
He started out as a slot corner. Mathieu can learn how to play outside as well.
Oderint dum metuant
Mathieu still has 1 possibly 2 years left in college to get better
so its still a little early to judge him to ronde
you cant compare DBs not to the past..
In the past a corner could play a soft zone come up and hit…made a reciever think..ronde and brian Kelly made hits ..Rule changes have takin the part of intemidation out of the game..(WILL THEY STICK THIER HELMENT IN MY EAR) <<that had an effect
So far, Claiborne is really good in M2M coverage but not that good at tackling. Kirkpatrick is the exact opposite of Claiborne
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Claiborne is better than Peterson (coming out of college) is straight man 2 man coverage
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, it's called the band
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
There's the halftime show
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
A boat, an RV, a home makeover
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Crimson # 3
Is going to take over in the 2nd half.
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 9, 2012 10:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
HTC is amazing
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
How terrible was that halftime contest?
If you’re going to embarrass a guy, who not challenge him to throw the ball 70 yards or run a sub-5 40 yard dash, or something besides a guy attempting to kick field goals off of a kickoff tee.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
Which average athletic human will throw a ball 70 yards?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Poor guy from Bama
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
One day, LSU will get offense
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Olson?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
i was at a breakfast dinner and Bobby Bowben made the comment..
And this was before Russell was a bust..Bowden said..anyone who can make that kid look good as a QB is ok with me
Tyrann Mathieu not looking good
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
The QB isn't even looking to Claiborne's side of the field.
It is obviously part of the game plan to give him the Deon treatment.
Oderint dum metuant
that is what i was thinking
they havent gone to his side all night. i dont watch much SEC here in colorado so i didnt watch LSU all season but right now im not sold on richardson. for as high as he is touted by some people; whats the deal with pulling him when bama is inside the 40yd line? if he is truly the real deal you run that guy all night. he might put up some stats at the combine (if he chooses to go) but in a big game like this i dont see anything worthy of a top 5 pick.
the fact that bama is not looking claibornes way says they respect him. he has even moved to covering tight ends b/c that is who bama was throwing to.
bucs fan landlocked in denver
Your right but when you avoid a CB you are also negating an offensive player on his side
and avoiding his side of the field on pass plays means your having to limit your offense. Not once have I seen a ball thrown near the guy all night meaning he is limiting bamas offense to his guy or his side of the field.
bucs fan landlocked in denver
vs below avg wide recievers..at best..
last year in the orange bowl a player from texas a&m who is a 3rd or 4th round prospect had several catches and great seperation against claiborne..
You mean the Cotten bowl?
I didn’t watch it but the score line and stats don’t show an A&M WR beating up on one CB. To compare him to a game last year makes no sense, do guys not ever get better? Especially when you’re young and in college (18 or 19 yrs old); is that the new peak age for players?
bucs fan landlocked in denver
I'm tired of watching Claiborne- I've seen what he can do. Time to see Kirkpatrick
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Kirkpatrick playing a lot of Zone
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Cover 2 specifically
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Jordan Jefferson is still awful
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Courtney Upshaw would be good if we drop to the low teens and do switch to a 3-4
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Who is Kevin Norwood? He looks good
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Alabama's kicker- FML
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
KIRKPATRICK!
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Im liking him more and more
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Time for a punt
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Yeah I'm good with taking him if we trade down
From what I have read he is very raw, he has great skills but he will need a bit more coaching than Claiborne. I do like that he gets his nose dirty and isn’t afraid to tackle; something the bucs whole secondary forgot how to do.
bucs fan landlocked in denver
I wonder if his combine will tell us more
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
I've been cautious of the combine since gruden
He loved the measurables of guys at the combine; which are great but I think game film tells you more. The only reason I put anything into what I read about Kirkpatrick was that it was from mike lombardi, the nfl network guy and former player personel person for belichick(?).
bucs fan landlocked in denver
This Eddie Lacy/Lacey guy is pretty powerful
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Trent Richardson- Now
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Les Miles is a bit stubborn
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
The Kicker is going to be MVP
lol
by GoBuxGo on Jan 9, 2012 10:54 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
LSU's MVP is the Punter
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Cant watch the game.
how is richardson, claiborne and kirkpatrick look. Unfortunately I am working.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 9, 2012 11:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Dang just got home from work too I got the same questions
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 9, 2012 11:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Richardson has had one good run, has been mostly stuffed at the line
Claiborne hasn’t been thrown at once
and LSUs offence hasn’t crossed the 50 yard line yet so Kirkpatrick hasn’t had to do much either
Thanks man...
This game sounds very boring.. Defense lovers must like it though. Thanks again!!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 9, 2012 11:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
its only boring because...
LSU’s offense is doing NOTHING OUT THERE. Sadly reminds me of the Bucs right now =(
Claiborne is still playing solid. Speaking of how does everyone feel about the Claiborne /Patrick Peterson comparison? Thoughts?
See above- I think Claiborne is a better Patrick Peterson
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Richardson runs for a 34 yard TD
Games officially over! Congratz Bama!
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