2012 NFL Mock Draft Monday: Morris Claiborne or Trent Richardson?
by Sander on Jan 9, 2012 2:00 PM EST
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PrintAs the Bucs' coaching search gets under way, the 2012 NFL Draft is creeping closer too. And as the date of the draft comes closer, we'll see more and more mock drafts coming out way. Today I'm looking at four mock drafts, with three different players being mocked to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers: LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne, Alabama running back Trent Richardson and Oklahoma State receiver Justin Blackmon.
SB Nation's 2012 NFL Mock Draft:
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
Aqib Talib may not go to prison, against all odds. If he doesn't, the Buccaneers still need to find a more consistent corner to replace him. They could even get the double shocker if Ronde Barber rides off into the sunset. Claiborne is that rare cornerback worthy of a top-five pick. The new coach, whoever that may be, will love to have a talented guy like this anchoring the back of his defense for what he'll hope is more successful tenure than Raheem Morris' was.
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama:
One of the more disappointing teams this past season, the Bucs don't have any obvious holes, but could use upgrades in a number of areas. RB LaGarrette Blount has struggled with durability and ball security issues and Tampa Bay averaged only 91.1 rushing yards per game (30th in the league). Richardson would give the Buccaneers and the new coaching staff a much needed shot of adrenaline to that offense.
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama:
With a powerful running game complementing Josh Freeman and their young receivers, the Bucs caught the NFL by surprise in 2010. A year later the Bucs saw feature runner LaGarrette Blount run for approximately 25 percent less yardage despite starting twice as many games. Running back isn't the biggest area of concern for Tampa Bay, but Richardson is among the truly elite talents in the draft and an obvious upgrade over Tampa's current stable of backs.
Walter Football's Charlie Campbell:
Tampa Bay has dire needs at cornerback and linebacker, but Blackmon is the best value at a position that is still a need. The Buccaneers lack a true No.1 receiver and are starting on the slippery slope of ruining quarterback Josh Freeman. Tampa Bay has to acquire some weapons for him to work with this offseason. Adding a playmaker like Blackmon could be a big step towards turning around Freeman. General manager Mark Dominik will be frantically looking for players that can help the Buccaneers immediately, and yield an improved record to provide him some job security. Dominik was extremely fortunate to survive this year after producing a second top-five pick in three years on the job.
The 6-foot-1, 211-pounder is a tough and physical player who can operate well in the short to intermediate part of the field. However, Blackmon has the speed to score on any reception and stretch defenses vertically. Even with constant double coverage this season, he stayed productive. In 2011, Blackmon had 121 receptions for 1,522 yards and 18 touchdowns. The junior recorded big games against two of the better teams he's faced in Texas A&M and Kansas State. He finished his career as the Fiesta Bowl offensive MVP with a massive performance against Stanford despite playing with a leg infection. Blackmon is a game-changer and looks like a young Terrell Owens.
Blackmon could have been a first-rounder in 2011, but decided to return to the Cowboys. He was a dynamite playmaker in 2010, producing 1,782 yards on 111 catches with 20 touchdowns, while being extremely consistent. Blackmon had more than 100 yards receiving in every game he played in last season. The one game Blackmon missed was because of a DUI arrest. He has also been active working with a child-cancer charity.
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Claiborne>Richardson>Blackmon
by flash_kiley on Jan 9, 2012 2:07 PM EST via Android app reply actions
That's about the size of it I'd say
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
Not trying to knock Richardson
I’d be fine with taking him, but I don’t think he’s BPA at all for #5 even if RB wasn’t so devalued.
LMJ
Bonafide game-breaker may fall to the second but no lower than the third and the only thing that keeps him out of the elite discussion is his size. I’m sure the same was said about guys like MoJo Drew and Sproles.
by GoBuxGo on Jan 9, 2012 3:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I agree LMJ all the way.
Pass on Richardson (as hard as that is for me to say) and go with either Claiborne or Blackmon. I think it will come down to who the Vikings pick. We will take the other ( unless the browns really feel they can move forward with McCoy)
That would also be the order I would rank them...
because I think our need for a CB trmps everything else. Damn I hope Claiborne is there a Pick 5…
It all depends on the combine.
If Blackmon puts up good numbers he will be a top 4 pick, dropping Claiborne to us.
I would disagree
only given the fact we can upgrade the WR corp with free agent talent this year. There are a few very good WR out there on the market. Hopefully, we can grab one.
Johnny Knox
The Bears don’t use that guy enough
by GoBuxGo on Jan 9, 2012 5:42 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I be happy with Knox
He’s got afterburners. Would stretch the field.
He got nearly bent in half...
and is having some spinal fusion surgery, so he is out for 2012 most likely.
Kick/Punt Returner
Do we want Parker back there or do we want a Claiborne or a Knox?
Im all for it!
Philly is robbing him in that current situation, anyone would be sour like he is right now. He would instantly make our offense scary and open it up for Blount. Not to mention sell tickets
yeah
absolutely Tampa should try to sign him, The eagles screwed him over. paying him much less than his value, then barely using him to try to keep his value down. I understand his attitude even if i dont agree with how he handled it. Pay him his worth and we will get a great receiver.
I think that is a valid argument for Richardson over Blackmon
If we can get one of the very good ones.
cant go wrong with any of them
but really we need playmakers on offense. The bucs are so slow at the skill positions there is no one the opposing defenses have to game plan for. the defense will mature and holes can be filled in the future. Also next year we can expect another high draft pick so cornerback can be addressed then if not thru f/a. For now this team needs to score points while this game still matters, not during garbage time.
Rang is the only one that has us picking Richardson with Claiborne still on the board
IMO, if Claiborne is there he is ours.
Noticed that as well
Campbell and Brugler’s picks at least make sense- Rang having us take Richardson with Claiborne still on the board is really inexplicable.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
It is the first thing I looked for
I have no problem with Blackmon or Richardson or even Kirpatrick, Kuechly, or Martin – if Claiborne is gone. If he’s there I just don’t see us picking anyone else unless Kalil inexplicably falls too.
Very unlikely we could find a trading partner if RG3 is off the board
If he isn’t, then yes.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
i think it would be a huge mistake to take Richarson or Blackmon
Look at ATtlant they traded 4 draft picks for Jones, sure he is good but is he worth there needs. Last year they finished 13-3 this year 10-6. If they would have used those picks on Defense it could have been a different team.
Fans always get carried away with fantasy stats, i remember when buc fans wanted to draft Crabtree cause he was the “best player”.
Lets draft like New England, Pitz, Baltimore, Greenbay. Smart
Or lets draft like Detroit and Raiders
Charles Rodgers, Roy Williams, David Terrel 2001 chicago,Mike williams, Heyward Bey, I could go on.
Well, Detroit did get this other guy at wide receiver who I heard is pretty good.
But I see your point.
http://www.amazon.com/Terracotta-Soldiers-ebook/dp/B006O4XYQ8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1324580397&sr=8-3
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/116337
by GradSchoolNole on Jan 10, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Look at the team who has been to the playoff 2 years in a row??
I fail to see your point. I see our franchise QB surronded by players with questionable character and a now proven trait of giving up on games. Who cares if we have a CB when or QB is left with quiters as his primary weapons?
I have only heard of 3 really elite players in this draft. Luck,Kalib, Richardson I say BPA with richardson then Blackmoon. I mean how many 1st rounders do we toss at the D?
I would not put Richardson in the same tier as Luck or Kalil
I’d put RG3 and Claiborne in that tier though.
I would
Dude is a freaking Stud
MJD 2.0
We won’t drat him, and we will be kicking ourselves for it.
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 9, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
agree
if we pass on Richardson (assuming hes available), who ever takes him will get a great back who will prob be a pro bowler for years to come. Even if hes not that great, having him and Blount in the same backfield makes tampa a top5 rushing team I believe. Then Freemans passing game will be much better w/less pressure on him.
Julio jones didn't score yesterday
Nor did that same team that went to the playoff 2 yrs in a row advance. They still need work and apparently Julio wasn’t they’re “big fix”
by GoBuxGo on Jan 9, 2012 3:02 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Malarkey called a super conservative game plan
They really played like crap too.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
we need to toss a lot of 1st rounders at the d
thanks to grudens inability to evaluate talent. for years our d was aging (sapp, lynch, brooks) and he did nothing to draft replacements for those guys. richardson is a great talent but think back to the trade between champ bailey and clinton portis; you get more value from claiborne. champ is still playing and portis is no where to be found.
bucs fan landlocked in denver
Only difference with ATL
Is they already had a TRUE #1 Receiver (actually over the last 2 years (minus this one) top 3 receiver). So J.Jones wasn’t a team saver, he was simply suppose to put them over the top.
Our situation is different. Blackmon would immediately take the starting position on the Bucs. With his size, speed and ball hawk style hands. Freeman would have a way bigger target to hit then Benn or Williams. Allowing Freeman to almost be Stafford/C.Johnson esk, Throwing it up and high allowing Blackmon to use his size to snag the ball out of the air.
Benn and Williams are both taller than Blackmon
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
and probably faster too.
They aren’t better football players, but they are taller and faster. No denying the measurables.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Yeah.
Blackmon seems like another of the same thing we have. That doesn’t mean he’s not better, but that pick doesn’t make sense to me.
Benn is an inch taller
Williams is the same size. Big difference between the 3. Blackmon’s vertical leap is HUGE. Plaxico is what 3 inchs taller. Yet Blackmon can jump at least a couple inches over his jump.
Blackmon has a wide catching radius, which is probably the best thing about him
He kind of lacks explosion in his route running and down the field. In general I think he’s a more physical Mike Williams (2010 version, that is).
Blackmon has amazing body control...
and can make the “circus” catch with ease. Wish we had the luxury of ignoring our CB, LB and RB situations. Blackmon would certainly add a dimension to our offense.
According to the ESPN sport science video
Blackmon’s vertical is only 33 inches. That isn’t good. At all. I think the kid is a helluva football player, but he isn’t the physical freak you seem to think he is
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
agreed
the video was good, but if you link to the calvin johnson video you can see why johnson was worth a top 5 pick and why blackmon will prob be a top 15 (after the combine).
i still curse the lions for taking johnson that year, every edition of madden i play the first thing i do is trade 2 1st rounders for him.
bucs fan landlocked in denver
Impressive for normal people, yes.
There are receivers jumping 36 inches plus almost routinely at the combine every year.
by flash_kiley on Jan 9, 2012 10:57 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Exactly.
33 inches would have been the third worst by wide receivers at the combine last year, and a full foot short of what Calvin Johnson leaped a few years ago
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Did you watch the viedio?
His knees definitely bend. It’s almost impossible to jump with a kneebend anyway. Why would anyone measure that. We’ll see what he jumps at the combine, I’m sure he’ll improve on the 33, but I doubt he gets over 40. Also doubt he runs less than 4.5.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
The Broncos triple option attack is probably dying for Richardson.
Maybe we can talk them into the same deal Atlanta made last year. Then we’re in better position to grab a linebacker.
Possibly
But I think Lamar Miller or LaMichael James would kill in that offense too.
http://www.amazon.com/Terracotta-Soldiers-ebook/dp/B006O4XYQ8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1324580397&sr=8-3
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/116337
by GradSchoolNole on Jan 10, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
It's weird, but I'm almost as excited for our 2nd round pick as I am our first.
Will Zach Brown fall to us? Maybe Kendall Wright? Lamar Miller? If we switch to 3-4 would we take a LB in the second round? Or would we take Mark Barron? Could go Oline. If somehow we switch to a traditional 3-4 would we get a noseguard in the 2nd? Or stick with our recent theme and double dip at corner? Just a couple of the ideas going through my head…
by flash_kiley on Jan 9, 2012 2:20 PM EST via Android app reply actions
i think double dipping at DB this year would be great.
im tired of seeing biggers getting dragged into the endzone and myron lewis being manhandled by receivers. maybe claiborne/minningfield in the 1st/2nd
I've been drooling over that exact combo
Minnifield is having minor knee surgery (not a big deal) and could drop out of the first because of it if we’re lucky. Unfortunately several teams picking ahead of us in the 2nd need a corner too and might grab him if he drops.
Would you take Mark Barron in the second over Minnifield?
Taking arguably the two best players off of possibly college’s two best defenses should be considered stealing.
by flash_kiley on Jan 9, 2012 2:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
If we could pull it off
How about Claiborne(1), Finnegan(fa), and Barron(2). Talk about helping out the secondary. Just don’t look at our linebackers.
And snag Nigel Bradham in the third, and grab D'qwell Jackson in FA.
And let’s go Bucs!
by flash_kiley on Jan 9, 2012 2:44 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I really like Nigel Bradham
Our LB corps can use a guy that plays with that intensity
by GoBuxGo on Jan 9, 2012 2:56 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Claiborne all the way
Top notch corners dont come along all the time. If the new head coach likes Talib and believes he could handle him our starting secondary could possobly look like: cb claiborne and talib with fa corner terrell thomas in nickle, safety draft pick mark barron along with fa S tyvonn branch with backups grimm and jackson
by Stormin Monkee on Jan 9, 2012 3:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Speaking of UConn
Tyvonn Branch is a really solid active safety and we should go get my boy Marcus Easley from the Bills. Sander look him up
by GoBuxGo on Jan 9, 2012 3:24 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Possibly
Safety is a huge need too and he’s a great one. I really haven’t thought out those 2 players against each other, but I really like both of them. Let’s just say I’d love to be faced with having to choose between the two!
oh man claiborne/finnigan/barron or minnifield
plus hopefully our line can get healthy/stay healthy and get to the qb and hopefully that can cover up the lackluster play of our linebackers.
The answer is "yes."
Claiborne best fits the needs of the team but all three are studs who will have an immediate impact. Not a bad choice on that list.
Hands down
We NEED help in the secondary. Mo Claiborne in the 1st round please & thanks.
by GoBuxGo on Jan 9, 2012 2:39 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Watching this game will help me decide between Claiborne and Richardson.
RG3 will most likely be gone by the time we pick, so we can’t trade down. Most likely, either Claiborne or Richardson will be there at 5, so I am going to watch the game tonight closely to see who performs better when it really counts.
Oderint dum metuant
Claiborne all the way!
Top notch corners dont come along all the time. If the new head coach likes Talib and believes he could handle him our starting secondary could possibly look like: cbs claiborne and talib with fa cb terrell thomas as nickle. Safties would be mark barron and fa tyvonn branch with grimm and jackson as backups
by Stormin Monkee on Jan 9, 2012 3:20 PM EST via Android app reply actions
TALIB is gone
rather have Hayneswurf
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 9, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Even more reason to bring in Thomas, And Finnigan
All new secondary then: Claiborne, Finnegan, and Thomas with Biggers as fourth corner
by Stormin Monkee on Jan 9, 2012 3:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Amen
We won’t spend on anyone, Glazers don’t have to until 2013, and thats why the next HC is going to be a cheap one.
The Glazers are to blame for the current state of the Bucs, paired with Dom’s inept and limited FA acquisitions.
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 9, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
I hear you
This is what they need to do to get them team back on track. History shows they wont do it, lets see if history repeats itself.
by Stormin Monkee on Jan 9, 2012 3:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Thats true
But unfortunately coaches need players to execute the plays
by Stormin Monkee on Jan 9, 2012 3:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
And then fire them and pay them $5 Mil for 5 years
Lets get some FA’s, or bust.
We need to get Freeman a “TOP 5” Offensive talent, whether is an OT that falls, Blackmon or T-Rich.
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 9, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Blount's lack of numbers is predicated on his use.
20 less carries for the year. Yes he started more games, but in 5 of his 14 starts this year he got less than 8 carries (wow). Last year had 6 games over 18 carries compared to 3 this year. In those games he didnt start last year, he still averaged over 12+ carries.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Blount is not an every down back
We need Trent Richardson to share the load.
Great combo
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 9, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
I would rather have the extra utility on defense
where a new coach will certainly run a new system. Our defense has holes at 7 of the 11 spots. That is more important to upgrade than a back who averaged 4.2 YPC.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Trent please
With blount and richardson will be the most physical backfield in football. Richardson also adds someone who is explosive, which is something we lack on offense. Teams already don’t like going against blount, with richardson defenders are losing sleep thinking about stopping this could be tandem
by keysersoze19 on Jan 9, 2012 4:27 PM EST via Android app reply actions
There's Keyser
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2012 4:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 2 recs
Don't pick a RB in the 1st round.
I love Richardson and wouldn’t shy away from wanting him on our team. BUT, i believe we can land LaMichael James in the 3rd.
Then i would try to trade for Chris Ivory from the Saints. They have 4 Starting caliber RB in that stable, along with having to PAY Drew Brees this year. Let’s look at this shall we. They have : Mark Ingram 1st round pick last year( he stays), Darren Sproles FA pick up last year ( he stays) that leaves Pierre Thomas and Chris Ivory. As it stands now . Thomas is the starting tail back. That leaves Ivory the odd man out, WE NEED TO GO AFTER HIM! No way the Saints can afford to have all 4 stay this coming year. They go lucky with Ivory on Pup then Ingram getting hurt shortly after his return. Wont be the same next year.
With that in mind.
If we miss on Claiborne or Blackmon. We need to trade down and acquire as much talent as possible to fill the gaping holes on this team. With the LMJ and Ivory idea it allows us to be more flexible in who we obtain.
I dont want ivory
And I find it highly doubtful that new orleans would trade talent to an in division rival
by Stormin Monkee on Jan 9, 2012 5:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Why don't u like Ivory?
He has been one heck of a Hard nose down hill RB with ball skills to be a effective 3rd back… If i remember correctly he was also chasing Blount for RB rookie stats. Ivory is a beast and already proven so. I understand your wanting for Richardson, but we are hurting in many more area’s then RB. If we can get a OC who actually uses Blount he would be fine back there with a decent back up.
Ivory isnt staring for a reason.
And he was a beast against the Bucs for the most part. Nobody i would want to trade for.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
Ivory is proof that running backs are cheap.
http://www.amazon.com/Terracotta-Soldiers-ebook/dp/B006O4XYQ8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1324580397&sr=8-3
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/116337
by GradSchoolNole on Jan 10, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Remember when we could have had Kevin Smith for a bag of potato chips?
Me too, I don’t think Dom values the RB position at all, and I highly doubt he initiates any type of trade for one.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Umm did u just miss the play off game yesterday?
Ivory Beasted it out there against a pretty good Defense.
I was thinking the same thing...
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
I think Dominik is also not all that good at evaluating running backs
He keeps bringing in guys with no lateral agility whatsoever. They’re all downhill pounders and nothing else. No one can make a guy miss.
The fact he didn't bring in Smith when Graham went down is still baffling to me.
He was just sitting out there as a free agent well into the season while we were trotting out Lumpkin. Ridiculous.
Also, Derrick Ward
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Kevin Smith
Lions brought him back in after it was apparent Best was gonna miss serious time. He was out there until at least week 8 or 9 if memory serves.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
trading with a division rival is a surefire way to get shafted and cost your GM job. so no.
the saints would bend us over in any attempt to trade based on position of strength.
by frostphoenix on Jan 10, 2012 7:36 AM EST up reply actions
Lets all stop shortchanging ourselves
We all know its really down to these two picks. Claiborne or Richardson. I am more towards leaning towards Richardson instead of Claiborne because Claiborne probably wont be available, and there will be still still good CBs in the second round available. And what we really need is veteran FA’s on defense instead of trying to start rookies with potential. Richardson is instant offense we need to help Freeman out. He is a complete back and with be great with Blount.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
Yes you do because you emphasised this in your title of your article.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
I chose that title based on the mock drafts I chose
And because “Claiborne or Richardson or Blackmon” was too cumbersome for my taste. It was a comment on the mock drafts, not on what the Bucs will do in the actual draft.
There is really no other options that are worth a top 5 pick that this team can actually use the pick on Sander.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
I know you're in love with Trent Richardson
But I’ve seen a lot of mock drafts with picks that are neither player.
So if thats the case then why did you settle on just 4 mock drafts for examples of three players?
No other examples of any potential top 5 picks that the Bucs could choose so how are we supposed to know that you “seen alot of mock drafts with pick that are neither player” when you didnt state any in your article?
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
im not trying to set into anything here
but here a link that shows a ton of drafts; you can see that they are all over the place. sander prob picked the sites w/people that have the best knowledge/draft boards.
http://walterfootball.com/draftdata.php
bucs fan landlocked in denver
No i understand there is more than a few drafts that have different players going to us. But overall its between Claiborne and Richardson. Some even have Kirpatrick. But overall its either one or the two.
And thats why he chose the title he chose. In my opinion. But thats here nor there. Its between Richardson and Claiborne point blank.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
I know just like you know. But once again regardless of the fact its between Claiborne and Richardson point blank. I dont care if you found someone that has us drafting Bobby Boucher with the number 5 pick the overall drafts have either one or the two.
As of now.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
You can believe that
But that’s both incredibly premature, and ignores a lot of other issues.
I know you love Richardson, but you’re not being very realistic here. And no, overall I have not seen mock drafts give the Bucs Richardson. In general, I’ve seen them give Claiborne, and if he isn’t there either Blackmon, Richardson, Doug Martin, or Dre Kirkpatrick. Those are the five candidates I’ve seen so far, and that’s likely to change once the draft rolls around.
And i know you hate that i want Richardson for the first pick.
Oh well. Im not the only one like a told you about a month or two ago and you thought i was crazy. Hold up did you say Doug Martin was projected to the Bucs? At 5? Wow. Im going to act like i didnt see you type that. Anyways ive seen Kirpatrick to which i have already acknowledged. But you still wont let it go? As of right now it is only two real serious prospects the Bucs could land and that is Claiborne and Richardson as it states in your title of this article.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
Blackmon and Richardson were neck and neck in my poll, and that was with Clayborn gone
I know it isn’t scientific or anything, but it is fair to say that Blackmon deserves to be in that conversation.
I have no problem with that at all.
I would just chose Richardson over Blackmon because we need to be running the ball more as a team and throw more to our backs.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
You can act like you didn't see me type that, doesn't mean I'm not seeing that pick pretty frequently
Also fun that you think I’m lying when I say that the title was not intended that way, but okay.
I just think its funny that you are trying to debate the point of the title. Regardless of what your intent was it still is what it is at this point which makes people who dont even read the comments assume that we have two choices in players.
If you want to make that your point that we have multiple choices with the first round pick maybe you should say that somewhere in your article and not in the comment section.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
I assume people have the barest of reading comprehension skills to figure that out
What with the frequent references to “mock drafts” and “today I’m looking at”, the lack of analysis and the fact that the poll and mock drafts cited include another option not actually Claiborne or Richardson.
Yeah people only comprehend and read what you write in your article sir.
You choose two options in your title. One additional in your article. No other mentions of any other possible options for the Bucs to pick even though you say you saw other mocks name other players, but you didnt name any until you saw me say we only have two real options in the first round. So like I said if that was the point you were trying to make that there are more than just Richardson, and Claiborne… (or Blackmon) then you should say so somewhere in your article.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
I wasn't trying to make a 'point' with the article
It was just a quick look at some mock drafts. That’s all. You keep trying to make it into something it never was.
He is a solid player.
I would love that pick, simply bc I know Trueblood will be on the bench or cut, yay!
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 9, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
He's worth considering if Claiborne is off the board
Would provide some competition for Donald Penn and be an immediate upgrade on the right side. Win/win for our O-line.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
Only with a trade back..
and please dont ask with what team ,,,ill list off 10 teams who would want blackmon or richardson…thats elite talent
Wanting them is one thing
Being willing to trade up for them is another.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
I still dont think hes top 5 worthy but hes a solid mid pick. But he isnt a playmaker and thats what we need.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
I am with you on the Richardson Train
We need a beast RB to take the pressure of Freeman, and make those Blumpkin Checkdowns lethal.
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 9, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
I chose SB Nation because this is an SB Nation site, CBS Sports because those guys are generally good, and Charlie Campbell because he tends to have inside info on the Bucs.
Because I chose four mock drafts for this article out of hundreds of mock drafts out there
I thought the “today I’m looking at four mock drafts” bit would give that away, y’know. This wasn’t a definitive look at what the Bucs will do in the draft. Yeesh.
By the way, this is also not the first time I’ve looked at or linked mock drafts. And not all of them have featured Claiborne or Richardson, either..
round 2: ?
I hope we go with LB (depending on who is here at that pick)
Lavonte David OLB Nebraska , Zach Brown OLB NC, or Vontaze Burfict*, ILB, Arizona State.
I would be pleased with any of the 3. I don’t know if Brown or Burfict would still be here by round 2 tho.
We need elite playmakers. Not just players that can fit in an established team and fit in the system.
We cant afford that and either get one or the other. If Claiborne isnt there then get Richardson. I dont want us to trade down for for average players “with potential”.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
LMJ isn't a average player.
He may not be up there with Richardson ( i still think it’s mainly due to his injury) But that kid would be one hell of a back up. I don’t want to see us use a 1st round pick on a 3rd down back! sorry just sayin better options out there.
He would be average in the NFL.
Not a starter and would work good on the right team and could be a playmaker. I want a guy that if Blount goes down he can step in and be a starter. James cant do that. At least right now. But i think Richardson could and we need to get him if Claiborne isnt available.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
I agree with that.
But the combination of LGB and LMJ is a good combination of speed and power. Like i said i don’t feel comfortable with a 1st round RB who would be playing as a 3rd down back
I say that to say that i dont believe that Blount will be our starting back for very long. And i love him but i dont think he is the long term answer and he may get overtaken as the starter.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
With that in mind.
I can agree with you pick 100% than. I just have faith Blount can grab his 2010 status again. Plus that stellar run against GB gives me hope he can turn his game around again.
he can but he is more less a brandon jacobs type. have him split time with a great back and he will be ok.
I dont know about LMJ’s blocking skills but he is very undersized. Richardson has the body to block and the speed in the open field to make people miss and could start. I cant say the same for James.
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What is it with you and Richardson?
Running backs are a dime a dozen except for the small majority like adrian peterson, and arian foster. One was the top pick and one was undrafted you can find them anywhere. We still have blount in the backfield. At cb with barber possibly retiring and talib all but gone our secondary is shot. Claiborne over richardson any day
by Stormin Monkee on Jan 9, 2012 5:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Ok so let me say it one more time for you because you obviously didnt read what i typed. I say i want Richardson if Claiborne isnt available. I dont think he will be available so thats why i say we should get Richardson.
And you say running backs come a dime a dozen huh? Ok who are you to say Richardson wouldnt be in that class? He is obviously the best running back coming out the draft no question so lets not talk about him like he is just some average dime a dozen running back. That whats with me and Richardson. I want the best and most elite playmaker available that can provide the best for the team without question.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
I hear what you are saying
But I really do believe Claiborne will be there for us at five. My mock with no trades even though I think someone will trade up for Griffin.
1.Colts – Andrew Luck
2. St. louis – Blackmon
3. Minnesota – Kalil
4. Clevland – Richardson
5. Tampa Bay – claiborne
by Stormin Monkee on Jan 9, 2012 10:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i agree with everything you said
richardson is prob going to be a great player. but im concerned that he carried a pretty heavy load for 2 yrs for the tide (a run first team). rb’s have short life spans and this guy has taken some hits. ill keep harping that you get better value out of a cb; again bailey and portis trade; bailey still playing at a high level and portis not playing for anyone.
bucs fan landlocked in denver
It usually take some time for a rookie CB to come in and immediatley start and be effective. And even if he is depending on whoever our coach is it still may not improve our defense to the point where its great.
But then on the flipside whos to say we dontimprove on defense with a new coach and some actual veterans instead of young rookies
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
i think peterson in az had a pretty good year
but he could also return punts. i like claiborne but ill take the honey badger over him for his ability to return kicks. my hope is that this not spending in FA experiment is over with who ever the new coach is.
bucs fan landlocked in denver
Doesn't Claiborne do kick returns too?
So that is actually a question i was curious about… How does Claiborne stack up against Patrick Peterson from last years draft class?
I don't deal with the undersized remarks. That idea of thought is worthless.
Way to many “undersized” players have gone on to have wonderful careers.
Warrick Dunn, Derrick Brooks, and Rhonde Barber come to mind just on the Bucs team. And in reference to RB Warrick was 5’9’’ what 180lbs tops? Behind Alstott was a great compliment. Bottom line is LMJ is a quick scat back with the ability to break out and make a splash play.
I’m not knocking Richardson in any aspect. I am just helping LMJ’s case in case we DO get our dream pick and nab Claiborne (best case scenario)
Either way you knock it, bringing in a vet RB is needed no matter who we draft. We need a veteran who can teach them how to stay professional. I just don’t know if Graham can go another year.
And don’t fully give up on Blount. He is not a single back player but dude got better blocking and 3rd down with no off season to be coached up with. Give him his 3rd year to make or break him before we call him a 1 trick pony. Best to use the first round pick on something of more need.
LaMichael James is Darren Sproles.
If you know how to use him, he’ll make a world of difference. But in the wrong scheme he would be average at best.
http://www.amazon.com/Terracotta-Soldiers-ebook/dp/B006O4XYQ8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1324580397&sr=8-3
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/116337
by GradSchoolNole on Jan 10, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
We should address it with a quality FA
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 9, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
It's slim pickings for the safeties this year
1:LaRon Landry – Redskins
2:Tyvon Branch – Raiders
3.Michael Griffin – Titans
Are the top 3. ( i believe i have that correct )
I take that back...
He is 27… will be 28 in September.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 10, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Thank You!
I can’t believe I forgot all about him. He would be a nice pick up!
If Richardson comes out and has Calvin Johnson/Mario Williams type numbers at the combine,
then I have no problem picking him.
Oderint dum metuant
With a top 5 pick u take best player PRIOD
You do not take into acount anything else , Unless that player is a QB or LT. youre looking for one thing and one thing only..a hall of famer and impact player i diff maker..if that pick is claiborne then Dion Sanders is what u hold the standard too ..if that player is Blackmon the Jerry rice or Micheal Irvin.. if its Richerson then LT or so…now a few of my friends and i have come up with a list of players who these picks remind of us of and all do well..the fact is its an elite pick and the Bucs will get an elite taqlent..the main thing is not to bust ot to trade back.. Bust are not only from talent ..rest in peace (Gains) also from injuries ty for your knees caddy… its a combo..the main thing is do not lock into a player and say we need this..That is the worst thing to do..ITS BEST PLAYER IF U SIT HERE..nothing else will work…anything else is failer..case in point..and i hate to bring up (Gaines) fine young man, I have met him several times on a personal level.. Thaat being said the best player on the board that year was AP..dont reach for players in the top 10..YOURE drafting it the top 10 for a reason..u need players..STARS..all pros..OK..NUFF SAID..hope we pick an all pro..GO Bucs!
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Morris Claiborne would be great!
You can say what you want but I hope Talib doesn’t go to jail and the new coach keeps him because he is still light years better than most CB’s out there despite his gambling ways; which I dont see is a bad thing due to the fact that Ronde made career of it and often burned as well as Asante Samuel and even Champ Bailey. JONATHAN BANKS. Remember the name he is a very talented corner out of Mississippi State who physically is built like Aqib (6-1, 185) but a faster version of Talib with great ball skills. Just ask Tebow when he picked him off in the end zone and ran it back 102yds a few years ago. Check him out. Some scouts have him rated higher then the #2 CB Kirkpatrick right now.
I really hope you are right
I would love to have claiborne on one side and Talib on the other. Bring in a new nickle back either from fa or draft.
by Stormin Monkee on Jan 9, 2012 10:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I would love for Talib to still be here too.
But only if he can adjust that attitude and off field issues. That said, I would be overly stoked if we were able to get Claiborne. I would go after Asante Samuels in the F.A. Market as a (just incase policy ) for Talib. Beyond his off field issues. He has never played ALL 16 games so we need 3 solid corners and a Slot corner ( but i still have my eye on Anthony Gaitor for that spot )
Is talib the new pacman?
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 10, 2012 12:30 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
New coach needs to set the rules early
Whoever comes in needs to explain to Talib that the attitude must go and one more incident and hes gone. Draft claiborne bring in another corner to show him he is not the only corner the team has and he can be replaced. Raheem babied protected him too much and he knew morris had his back so he could do what he wanted. He still has talent if he avoids jail time and serves his probable suspension TB needs him.
by Stormin Monkee on Jan 10, 2012 12:41 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
My Point Of View !!!
1. Trade Down To The 8-12 Range To Get More Pick’s .
2. Then Either Trent richardson Or Dre Kirkpatrick .
2. Go After Desean Jackson & Michael Griffin .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 10, 2012 12:48 AM EST reply actions
Impossible
No wat Trent is gonna be there in the 8-12 range and LaRon LAndry is a far better safety than Griffin, even Tyvon Branch is a way better younger more talented option
Actually ..........
If You Know Football Or Played Football ( Not Taking Shot’s Just Saying )
Griffin Is More Productive , Healthy , & Versatile . He Can Cover 1On1 Unlike Landry , He Run Fit’s Are Good & He Is A Ballhawk .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 10, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
As Far As .......
Trent Richardson Every Team In The Top Ten Are Solid At Rb Or Have Other Huge Need’s . The First Slot They Have Available For Him Is 11th To The Chiefs In Thats Not Sure If Charles Heal’s Quickly .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 10, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
Thats false about those teams...
Trent is a special RB like Luck is for QB this year, teams who may not obviously even need him may take a shot at him because players like him dont come often. Have you been following Cleveland? The organization and Hillis are getting along to well nor seeing eye to eye and its very likely he wont be back next year. You never know about STL because Jackson isnt getting any younger either. One thing for certain is he WILL NOT make it out the top 5. Somebody in the 20s range could be eye balling him right now ready to pull off a blockbuster trade to get him. (see: ATL & Julio ’11)
Realistically
I Think He Either Gonna Be Our Fifth Pick Or The Steal Of The Draft .
No Teams In The Top Ten Can Afford To Draft An Rb Everbody Got Huge Needs .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 10, 2012 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah Im a avid football enthusiast not just a fan..
Griffin is a slighty above safety and has done NOTHING great in his entire tenure while being with the Titans. Anyone who starts over a period of seasons and have a few tackles and picks here and there can be labeled productive. Tampa’s necessity doesnt require a coverage because that is Tanard’s job as the FS. We need a true physical presence at the SS postion which Jones was not giving us. Landry is a far better athlete as well and would add a instant speed upgrade on the backend, just as Branch would do as well. Last time I checked Landry is regarded as the far better player anyway, besides Orakpo, Kerrigan and Fletcher; LaRon is the best playmaking player on that defense.
His
Health Is My Concern He Is Like Bob Sanders Tons Of Talent But Always Injured .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 10, 2012 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
lol
You Rite , I Think If Marty Shotty Becomes Our Coach As I Wish Because He’s A Winner We Will Pick Trent Richardson To Pair With Blount .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 10, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
And I would love that..
Just along as we atleast add a good corner in free agency to negate the effect of not drafting Claiborne
Marty Is
A Defensive Guy , That Love’s To Run The Ball So I Think So .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 10, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
you know, i am a little worried about this.
can marty show that he could adapt in a pass heavy era that the league is in now?
that’s my biggest question.
by frostphoenix on Jan 10, 2012 7:40 AM EST up reply actions
laron landry vs michael griffin career stats
Landry:
Tackles : 291
Sacks : 5.5
Int’s: 4
Ff: 6
Griffin:
Tackles:298
Sack’s:2..0
Int’s: 17
Ff : 7
Both Came Out In The Same Draft 2007
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 10, 2012 1:25 AM EST reply actions
landry all the way
Living in the dc area I say if we had the chance to pick either or I’d go with landry he’s more talented and you can’t go by his numbers he’s always injured but that could also be a knock against him but landry is more talented
by mdbucsfan on Jan 10, 2012 6:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I
Havent Seen Branch Play Nor Heard Of Em
I Gotta Look Him Up
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 10, 2012 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
He goes pretty unnoticed in Oakland.
But for a safety, that is sometimes a good thing. A good cover guy that can hit, would be a big upgrade in my opinion.
by flash_kiley on Jan 10, 2012 1:42 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
The worst one out of those 3 > sean jones
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 10, 2012 8:49 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
The worst out of those 3>>>>>Sean Jones...
by flash_kiley on Jan 10, 2012 9:28 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Trent Richardson.
If you dont see him in a bucs uniform yet you will eventually.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
DEFENSE
The BUCS were a disaster on defense this year. The last two drafts have filled the front 4 with great talent (needs to perform better, but the investment is made). Mason Foster is the only linebacker with starter talent. Talib has issues (but talented enough to be an elite corner). Barber is a Hall a Famer, but will be no surprise if he retires. I like Biggers he’s got talent, but the fact is that you need 3 corners that can play, ideally 4, so Claiborne based on the ranking is the pick. Round 2 & 3 should be trying to fill linebacker and maybe a safety, a right tackle if the right player is avail. A complementary back or upgrade for Blount is pure luxury, running backs are a dime a dozen past the one or two elite backs in each years draft. The Bucs need to not give up 40 a game to win, not to mention most teams that get torched like the Bucs this year don’t get to run the ball very well when trying to win shoot outs. Blackmon is potentially a very good receiver (skeptical that he is on the Green or Jones level). Williams needs to bounce back and Benn needs to continue develop, on top of that, if the Bucs see a need to invest at wideout the free agent market is strong this year in that area. The only offensive are the Bucs should look at early in the draft is right tackle, defense is the priority. GO BUCS!
QB
No one is thinking QB. I don’t see Freeman as the future. Neither are his backups.
WHAT WE DO IN LIFE...ECHOES IN ETERNITY JOHN 3:16
I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but you BUILD YOUR TEAM TO WIN YOUR DIVISION.
With this division clearly shifting towards being a quarterback friendly/pass first division, you’ve BETTER have some guys who can A) Rush the passer, and B) Cover. I think the Bucs have done a great job drafting guys who have the potential to be excellent pass rushers, but we still need to address the 2nd part.
For this reason, I believe that if for some strange reason, all 3 are on the board come draft night (Blackmon, Richardson, Claiborne), then you go with the guy who is an elite talent at a position of need that ALSO puts you in the best position to beat the other teams in your division, and that guy is Morris Claiborne.
http://www.amazon.com/Terracotta-Soldiers-ebook/dp/B006O4XYQ8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1324580397&sr=8-3
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/116337
Yup morris is the smartest pick
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 10, 2012 10:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Kirpatrick Vs claiborne
News alert: Kirpatrick just got attested for marijuana possession, Bucs just moved him above Claiborne on draft boards!! One step closer to building a team of all junkies and criminals. Bucs comments “Kirpatrick showing great value at #5”. Lol
Kirpatrick, you idiot. You probably just dropped from a top 10 to a round 2 or 3. Young and stupid
by gmaz1 on Jan 17, 2012 5:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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