NFL Playoffs Open Thread: Giants at Falcons
Two flawed teams face off in a few minutes. The Atlanta Falcons and New York Giants will do battle in the Wild Card round of the 2012 NFL Playoffs. Can Matt Ryan and company win their first playoff game, or will the New York Giants take the first step toward repeating their 2007 performance?
My money's on the New York Giants to face the Green Bay Packers next week.
Talk about the game, the playoffs, the Bucs, the draft, coaching searches and whatever else here.
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should be a good game...
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 8, 2012 1:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This is one of those games where I can't decide which team I despise more
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 8, 2012 1:27 PM EST reply actions
Falcons
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
If I were an outside observer I would say the G-Men.
They have more punchable faces. Eli Manning? Tom Coughlin? But I hate the Falcons just a bit more being a Buc fan.
Disagree, Mike Smith has a very punchable face.
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
And Brent Grimes.
BRENT.
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
I am destined to hate Julio Jones forever.
First ’Bama and now Atlanta. Wish this guy would just go away.
I'm thrilled Atlanta gave up what they did for him.
Don’t think he’ll ever prove to be worth that much.
What did they give up again? 2 1st's and 2 2nd's right?
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
Didn't get it.
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
Manning pulled a Bret Favre there.
Love when that happens. Even though it only netted them, well negative one yard.
i hope Forrest Manning ends up smoking
This ATL secondary.
by GoBuxGo on Jan 8, 2012 2:07 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I hate the Falcons!
Genuinely. They get all this hype, and have no heart.
Josh Freeman will be better than Matt Ryan, Cam Newton cant compete with FreeFive. Not so sure about Drew Brees.
Even if I wasnt a Bucs fan Id still have a strong dislike for them
Josh Freeman will be better than Matt Ryan, Cam Newton cant compete with FreeFive. Not so sure about Drew Brees.
They were overrated coming into this season
I honestly think the Bucs were better talent wise it showed in the 1st game against them when we actually looked like an NFL team then.
hey Sander
what is up with the O coordinator for the Giants, the Giants have had an above average effective offense for a long time.
Any word on his credentials and availability?
Josh Freeman will be better than Matt Ryan, Cam Newton cant compete with FreeFive. Not so sure about Drew Brees.
Kevin Gilbride
Love his offenses. I’ve heard his name maybe once. Was a Chargers head coach from ‘97-’98 and didn’t have a lot of success (then again, Ryan Leaf was drafted in ‘98). At 60 he’s pretty old, too. I’d be intrigued, but don’t think the’s a real candidate.
Yes, look at #20
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 8, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
or for him
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 8, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
This makes my skin crawl
NO Wade Phillips
by GoBuxGo on Jan 8, 2012 2:24 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Mike Mularkey's offense sucks
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Was that a zone blitz?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Horrible Clock management
Josh Freeman will be better than Matt Ryan, Cam Newton cant compete with FreeFive. Not so sure about Drew Brees.
The giants should gave asked for a measurenent.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 8, 2012 2:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hail Mary fail
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Ryan seen Tuck
And rolled like a biatch
by GoBuxGo on Jan 8, 2012 2:23 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
@ Sander- Would Ryan be considered an average player for his draft position?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
He is good probably the only reason the Falcons are playing today despite average talent in most areas.
Consider how much pressure he had to win over the Vick lovers down there he handled it well. For Falcons standards historically he is the best qb they had, never had back to back winning season til he came there let alone 3 playoff appearence in 4 yrs.
Third overall?
I think you want a star quarterback with that draft position, and he’s not that. But he’s an above-average quarterback and a lot of teams would give up more than a third overall pick for one.
That's what I was thinking
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 8, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Y?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 8, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
It's the Glazers we're talking about
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 8, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Source: Glazers underwhelmed with Mike Sherman
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 8, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
I was joking, half-heartedly
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 8, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Derrick Sharpe
mentioned yesterday on the radio that Sherman would be the man…I was like WTF? I will get behind him if he is chosen….but I am hoping it doesnt come to that.
I did
And I’ll continue saying it. I’m still underwhelmed with him. And he hasn’t exactly changed their offense, either. Looks exactly like it looked last year.
he's made some huge plays for them...
…whether they are better as an offensive hole or not should point at the regression of someone other than Julio. You and I hardly agree on any football related subject..so it doesn’t surprise me. How is Holland today? nice this time of year?
Cold
Julio Jones has made some plays, but the principle of the offense is exactly the same: run, run, pass. They can’t lean on the pass and that’s holding them back. Julio is not a game-breaking WR.
And they gave up a ton for him, while they have a run-first offense and still have significant holes. I don’t get it.
hahaa!
Julio is not a game-breaking WR.
ok dude….ok….lol. How’s the weed over there in Holland…pretty good?
Julio Jones has had big games
That doesn’t mean he broke open those games. I don’t think there are many games they don’t win if he doesn’t play.
He’s a good player. He’s not a game-breaking player. He’s not, say, A.J. Green.
You damn right he aint AJ Green...
Julio is better. Bigger, faster, stronger… They’re goth great though.
Julio has better measurables
But he’s nowhere near the football player A.J. Green is. Not even close.
I disagree completely
….I am not trying to compare two young WRs in their first year, but if you are hell bent on going down that road…Julio is better…and has proven it.
I will always go in circles with you...
where did you play football? What is your background in football?
But if you want to go that route
The Bengals certainly thought A.J. Green was the beter player. So does Greg Cosell. In fact, so does every football analyst I’ve heard comment on either receiver this season.
I am not going any route..
…there are many football minds of people who played/coached (not watch and write about it) that will tell you Julio is a game breaker. Somethings you have to DO to know about. I could read all the books about Holland I could gather, but until I actually visit/live there…I really don’t know. :)
I'm not disputing that there are people who believe that
I don’t agree with it, and I don’t think it’s been “proven”, and I know your opinion is not a consensus opinion among football experts, coaches, and players either.
I think he wanted you to ask him what his background in football was.
But he’ll probably tell you even if you don’t ask. I’ll give you a hint. He went to the same school as Julio Jones.
not at all...just like to know where certain
opinions arise…and how they got to that conclusion. I respect everyone’s opinion.
A.J. Green is the #1 receiver on his team
He consistently wins down the field. He consistently makes really tough catches in coverage. He plays faster than Julio Jones (i know Jones ran a faster 40, Green plays faster). He’s a better route runner. And he does all that with a worse QB.
Julio Jones is better with the ball in his hands. That’s it, if you ask me.
That's not to say Julio Jones is bad at any of those things, by the way
I just think A.J. Green is special.
It's all good.
I just think it’s a logical fallacy to say someone’s opinion on football is only valid if they played the sport.
Especially since lots of people who played/coached football disagree with your opinion.
haha...its like the old saying...
“…opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one” I am sure you could ask anyone about the comparison between Julio and AJ and get different opinions split down the middle. Personally, I wasn’t trying to compare them, they are both great.
Two 1's and a 2 (plus 2 4th's)?
Sorry, too much. Nobody is saying he’s a bum, just that it was a bit excessive.
hell no no one is saying he's a bum..
…but it wouldn’t surprise me coming from this blog. We’ll see. He’s a rook. Personally, he will be a perennial pro bowler and a top NFL WR for a long time. Hard worker, smart, freak physical tools. 10 years from now…we’ll see.
Randy Moss was a gamebreaking rookie WR
Julio hasn’t put up numbers to compare with a guy like that
by GoBuxGo on Jan 8, 2012 2:56 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
One of those ones is the swap between their pick and Browns pick.
I look at it as a next year one, a two, and change.
I've always wondered why the Pats don't make those kind of trades.
Some of those years the built up all these draft picks in trades, then traded back, then wound up cutting all the people they did draft. I would think a Julio Jones would be a pretty good addition to their team. Not to meantion a whole list of players they could’ve got on Defense over the years.
I thought that was a first round pick they had acquired from the year before.
They didn’t really trade up for him. I could be wrong though.
Jason Pierre Paul- Ouch
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Falcons are a boring team to watch
What playmakers they have on defense besides Abraham. For an offense that has Ryan, Turner, Roddy, Julio, Gonzo they sure can look stagnent some games unless they play bad teams.
They're good when they have to be
by GoBuxGo on Jan 8, 2012 3:07 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
They're just unlucky half the time
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 8, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
bags not filled with enough dirt today
Josh Freeman will be better than Matt Ryan, Cam Newton cant compete with FreeFive. Not so sure about Drew Brees.
and Mike Mularkey is being considered for HC jobs?
Josh Freeman will be better than Matt Ryan, Cam Newton cant compete with FreeFive. Not so sure about Drew Brees.
Yep it's why I been saying no thanks to him.
I watched this same predictable offense 4 yrs when I watch Falcon games. This is not what Freeman needs we could have kept Olsen in that case.
Dirty bag Birds!
LOL
Josh Freeman will be better than Matt Ryan, Cam Newton cant compete with FreeFive. Not so sure about Drew Brees.
Forrest is ballin today
And Nicks’ dirty bird was better than Freeman’s.
by GoBuxGo on Jan 8, 2012 3:11 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Major 10 point swing
3 points the Falcons dont get
7 points the Giants do get = OUch
Josh Freeman will be better than Matt Ryan, Cam Newton cant compete with FreeFive. Not so sure about Drew Brees.
they definitely have the tools in the skill positions...
….Gonzalez is an ageless wonder. I think their problem is the offensive line.
Its not the offense
Its Matt Ryan
Josh Freeman will be better than Matt Ryan, Cam Newton cant compete with FreeFive. Not so sure about Drew Brees.
reply fail^
Josh Freeman will be better than Matt Ryan, Cam Newton cant compete with FreeFive. Not so sure about Drew Brees.
If anything he has been handcuffed by bad play calling
a shaky o-line don’t help either.
The Giants pass rush is too potent
For the Falcons. I’ve counted 1 blitz since the half started so now with this lead the best chances the Falcons have at winning this is an offensive/defensive collapse by NY. Max Protect and don’t get beat deep. Go Blue!
by GoBuxGo on Jan 8, 2012 3:19 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
It just seems like a classic good dline vs average oline matchup.
I’m a little suprises the Falcons D stood up so well for so long. They’re breaking down now though.
Falcons only look good against bad teams
such as Bucs, Jags, Colts Panthers but can’t beat good team like being swept by the Saints, losing to the Packers, Texans, Bears(when Cutler was heathy).
Hey at least you got out there for a win.
And Monday Night Football is always fun even if it’s just the Colts.
No More Eli
He’s in Forrest mode right
by GoBuxGo on Jan 8, 2012 3:29 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
The offensive line for the Falcons are not good.
…about to look worse now that the Falcons are in pass mode…Giants D Line will put their ears back and go.
If I had to pick, I would say GB vs. NO in the NFC Championship game...
….however, the Saints play much differently outside of that dome.
Saints have a better running game thatn Green Bay
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
And Brees has been unstoppable recently, while Rodgers regressed ever so slightly
Would certainly be an entertaining shootout, though. ’09 Cards-Pack style.
This is why the Falcons can't lean on their passing game
Offensive line can’t hold up. And I don’t think Matt Ryan can do it, either.
I wish I was around a Falcons fan
Right now so I can bottle their tears and sell’em to you guys
by GoBuxGo on Jan 8, 2012 3:36 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Somebody should go on their blog
like they do when they come on here to rub shit in our faces.
We still split with them this season
we also can say we won a SB and they won’t sniff 1 anytime soon.
It was enough for me to go over there and read the doom and gloom misery-laden posts.
The last comment I read before leaving was “my armless grandma can tackle better than these guys.”
lol.
SO wait, going out and upgrading a position that was already a strength didnt net the Falcons a Super Bowl
IM SHOCKED
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
I dont think anyone is angry, but there are those who see a few nationally televised games or Youtube clips
and think that hes the only RB in the universe. Focusing on the hot name or known commodity instead of the team is shortsighted.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
well, thinking the Bucs RB is a position of strength
is short sighted as well, if we’re going there. But I think most rational people will tell you the Bucs need secondary and linebacker help more than other positions. BTW, personally, I saw TR play twice last year…not TV. …and yes, he is (in my opinion) the best RB to come into the NFL in quite some time. TR > Jim Brown :)
Not a strength, but not a weakness like OL, DB, S, LB, WR
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
If he is better than Jim Brown, than he should be #1 overall without a doubt.
Luck should be an after thought.
Oderint dum metuant
I have a feeling we'll be using this bullet point all off season long
One player (i.e. Julio Jones) was not the solution. They took an incremental upgrade over a large upgrade. THey had other holes to fill (not as big as what we have) but chose the one player approach. You have to look at the overall TEAM, not one player.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
by Buc Wild on Jan 8, 2012 3:40 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Im just enjoying the fact that they mortgaged the future for Julio
and have a clearly declining Turner, aging Gonzo and DL that is old.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
THeir defense got shredded without him
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
An "explosive" offense built on the run game with an aging back.
THey thought offense was their problem. Unless you think you can outscore the top 4 teams (not likely), you are better off maintaining a top 12 offense and strengthening your defense. Slow them down and grind it out ala 07 Giants, dont try to outscore them
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
I think it was more about them thinking they were on the verge...#1 seed last season..
…and needed one more offensive weapon to get over the hump. Joe Jurevicious style…lol
The Packers and Saints have 4 or 5 guys who can kill you in their passing game.
The Falcons gave up a lot just for 1 guy where no1 else scares you beside Roddy. Ryan is good but he is not up there with Brees, Rodgers, Brady.
the NFL is becoming so "p*ssy"
…for lack of a better word…they’re taking the aggression out of the game…
This has potential
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 8, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
thats what I am thinking...
….last night a guys hand “touched” the helmet of a WR when making a tackle…and a personal foul was called. Tebow vs. KC the last week…a KC defender was on the ground and reached up and hit Tebow in the ankle…and they called a personal foul (contact to the lower body of a QB) I understand the safety precautions, but this is football. Its suppose to be tough.
it like they weren't even on the field
If ATL can only score 2 vs NYG then you know the Buc’s have some serious defensive restructuring to do. Even John Lynch himself said on TV that he didn’t recognize what was out there.
Beware!!
by Creamsicle Power on Jan 8, 2012 3:52 PM EST reply actions
Interesting trend I just thought of (maybe someone else has before)
The top teams in each conference all have tight ends that can stretch the field. Graham, Finley, Gronk/Hernandez and Pitta. Couple that with Davis, Ballard, Gresham, and Daniels, may be something there.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Thank the offense for that.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Ooofff. Hope all those picks were worth a first round loss
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
The Hakeem Nicks TD was hilarious
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"

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