NFL Playoffs Open Thread: Lions at Saints
by Sander on Jan 7, 2012 7:47 PM EST
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PrintThe Houston Texans have just moved on after beating the Cincinnati Bengals in the first playoff game of 2012. They'll face the Baltimore Ravens next weekend. It's time for the second playoff game now, though.
This upcoming game is likely to be a shootout. Drew Brees and his receiving corps vs Matt Stafford and...well, Calvin Johnson. It helps that neither defense is all that impressive. Can the Saints start another Super Bowl run, or will the Detroit Lions win their first playoff game since 1991? Let's find out.
Talk about the game, the Bucs, football, the draft, coaching searches and whatever else here.
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I know I'm a bucs fan.
But I want to be able to say we beat the Super Bowl champs. So go SAINTS.
by bucswillwin on Jan 7, 2012 7:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It will sound more depressing
knowing our last win came against them.
You know what's weird?
I know I should be rooting against the Saints. But all year I’ve rooted for Brees to tear it up because he was my fantasy QB. I kinda started to like the guy for getting me so many wins. It’s hard to do an about-face and root against him. Especially in a year when we sucked so bad and it didn’t matter how much success they had.
I….I just can’t quit you Drew.
Was anyone else disturbed
by how intently Jim Schwartz stared into Michelle Tafoya’s eyes in that pregame interview? They were like a foot apart and he just looked dead in her face, never breaking eye contact, rarely blinking.
….he’s obviously a mad man.
Yeah he wanted to get out of that handshake as quickly as humanly possible.
But then he struck the beast, only angering him further.
Faith Hill has a rocking body!!!!/
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 7, 2012 8:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
So far there's been discussion about Collinsworth and Costas, but none about Al Michaels.
This guy (if I may borrow from Gruden) is an egomaniac. I always used to think he was the aw shucks, everyman, solid announcer. Which actually he is. But listen to him give an interview. You wanna hear a guy toot his own horn for an hour? Interview Al Michaels.
Ron Jaworski, on the other hand.
That’s a guy I want to get ripped on Tequila shots at MacDinton’s and watch him do his thing. “Ladies, haaaaave you met ‘The Polish Rifle’?”
He's not just great- he's a hall of famer
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Have you watch Dominik's press conference.
We won 10 games and there was not enough time to sign anybody for a lockout. Translation we already got a SB team ready we don’t need to sign anybody haha.
Passing down only
& make him split out for the obvious end around
by GoBuxGo on Jan 7, 2012 8:36 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Obvious facts are obvious
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
For all the people who don't think a team should lay down in order to get a better draft pick...
….I give you Calvin Johnson. Unless you still hold firm that Gaines Adams was worth that extra useless win.
Not to mention Suh versus McCoy.
Suh hasn't been that good this season
McCoy was playing better than him before that injury. No joke.
Watch him this game
Gets little pass rush and is exploited in the pass rush, and isn’t double-teamed as much as some would have you believe.
I agree
McCoy if he can stay healthy is a franchise player on d
Wow guys, my bad. I'll amend that.
How did Gaines Adams play any year compared to Megatron? My point is this argument that being 4-12 compared to 3-13 is ridiculous.
3-13 gives you better draft position, hence access to a better player
Not much to argue about that.
But you can’t ask players to lay down or intentionally blow games and then ask them to play hard the next year. Doesn’t work. Shouldn’t work like that, either. Customers come to watch you play a good game, not to lay down.
This ten-game losing streak may have been good for draft position, but I would much rather have seen a couple of wins in there.
And in retrospect, I wouldn't.
I’d of much rather lost a couple more games in ‘06 if it meant we’d of had Calvin Johnson this whole time. This year will be a forgotten season in a few years. If losing one more game meant gaining a franchise player and potential future hall of famer, don’t tell me you wouldn’t take that over a couple of useless wins.
And yeah, I totally get the argument that you can’t ask current players to lay down. It’s unrealistic for guys to slack when it’s their jobs that will be on the line because of it. I’m just saying all this chest pounding “I don’t EVER want my team to lay down” crap is just that, crap.
If anything, my argument is for the greater good while yours is an empty useless sentiment. Gaines Adams versus Calvin Johnson? You can’t defend that.
no one brought up that arguement but you
And i find it ’’CRAP’’ to bring up a tragic loss of life over a game..and the was you brought it up by askin how the man this played this year was bigger crap.. get a clue
I guess I would agree with you a bit more if your name wasn't "69 Her"
Grow up. I was making a point about the draft. It was a poor choice of words on my part and I admit to that.
Once again, my point was how did G. Adams play any year compared to Megatron?
And by the way, this argument has been going on for a long time, on this site and others. I didn’t bring it up out of the blue. It was a question we were discussing not too long ago right here. Come around more often before you tell me I’m the only person who brought this up.
Calm down with the personal attacks, both of you
Landlubber apologized for the remark, saying he didn’t mean it that way. Move on.
Eh, I think you get a little caught up in the result
Gaines Adams was a bust, but if he’d been a success the difference would be much smaller. Say, Jake Long vs Chris Long in 2008. There’s a difference between a third and a fourth pick, but it’s not as big as you make it out to be.
I watch professional sports because I want to see my team win. When I’m watching a game, I want to see a win. I can’t root for a loss – I really can’t. I understand the argument, I just can’t do it. I can’t get excited about a better draft pick. I can get excited about a win.
I would never root against my team if it counted.
But when you’re talking about the difference between 4 wins and 3, I’m taking 3 all day long.
And yes, it’s a lot easier to criticize in retrospect with 20/20 vision, but let’s be honest here. Back then, everyone on the planet knew that lading CJ was bigger than landing Gaines.
I’ll drop it now, I’m just saying guys.
The Saints screwed me in Playoff Fantasy Football last year
and their going to do it again this year.
Detriot is showing poise
For a team with no playoff exp and on the road
well so much for a detroit vs. houston superbowl
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 7, 2012 10:10 PM EST reply actions
Im so glad the Saints have so many free agents
Who do u think they keep. Out of Breez , Meachem, Colston , Porter and Nicks?
Brees, Colston, Nicks
Those three are key to their offense. Though I would be weary of investing much in Colston given his knee injuries.
Think they let Meachem &Porter walk. Porter isn’t great, Meachem is replaceable.
They'll find a way
According to ESPN they’re at $106 million, which probably means something like $30 million in cap room if this year’s cap room rolls over.
No way they let Brees walk
it will come in expense of not being able to keep other guys though.
He wont sign or play for that if they do..
Would you if you were him? and Nicks might walk,, He will have 2 rings , im sure the fact they put that 2.5 mil a year on him this year is not sitting to well with him
There's no way Brees walks away or sits, none
That would look absolutely horrible. Saints will take care of him, but franchise tag is a placeholder while they work on a contract.
They’ll pay Nicks as much as they need to keep him. For that offense (and Brees) to function at top level, they need him. If he isn’t in there, they can’t run that offense.
Oh i agree about Nciks. but
I think he is a gun for hire after this year. If they win it all he will have 2 rings .. The Saints will have to pay 8 or 9 Mil to keep him
Which would be worse
Saints with 2 rings or Falcons with 1 ?
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 7, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions
We hate each other but overall we all losers somewhat history wise.
I feel like the division as a whole gets disrespected compered to the overrated NFC least. I found myself rooting for the Saints a couple yrs ago well I hav a good friend who is a Saint fan. The Falcons eh I don’t like them but their fans suffered worse than us, if they win 1 I can live with it.
I always like Brees from the Chargers days
they are my 2nd favorite team or team I root for when they are in the playoffs while we have seasons like this.
I always liked the Saints before realignment and the formation of the NFC south,
I’ve always hated the Falcons even before realignment
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 7, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Darren Sproles is ridiculous
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
F U Dom
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
I don't think we could have gotten him, even if we doubled his current salary.
Him and Brees were good friends before this year.
Oderint dum metuant
by jBen05 on Jan 7, 2012 10:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Would anyone be mad if the Colts take anyone other than Luck in the upcoming draft?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
No, I would feel bad because their new GM would have the record for the quickest firing of a GM.
Oderint dum metuant
by jBen05 on Jan 7, 2012 10:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
No
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
pretty good game
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
by Buc Wild on Jan 7, 2012 10:44 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
It is, this playoffs save for Broncos- Steelers has the potential to be good
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Matthew Stafford- you loser
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
young QB making dumb plays
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
by Buc Wild on Jan 7, 2012 10:45 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
did he fall down?
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
by Buc Wild on Jan 7, 2012 10:46 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yes
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
or slipped
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Young WR making dumb plays.
Oderint dum metuant
by jBen05 on Jan 7, 2012 10:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
still shouldn't have been thrown
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
by Buc Wild on Jan 7, 2012 10:46 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Titus Young should not have fell down
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
The Lions look like they have a run defense but they aren't getting pressure
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Collinsworth is right
Saint capitalizing. Lions missing opportunities
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
by Buc Wild on Jan 7, 2012 10:48 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Blown Coverage- Dagger
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Delmas might have literally Tanard Jackson'd that play
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Nice coverage
Matt Flynn should thank the Lions also for gettin him a payday from some team.
3 scores = game over
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
by Buc Wild on Jan 7, 2012 10:50 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Drew Brees is really damn good
Take Notes Freeman
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Freeman should go work out with Brees again in the summer
it worked for him in the 10 season.
yeah...took time and weapons tho
We have to get Free players for him to progress..
I wonder if the next Miami Coach will get Matt Flynn in FA
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Calvin Johnson is a monster
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
The No-Huddle the Lions are using is reallly odd
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Moneyball was awful
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Terrible Onside kick
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Game
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Yep, that's the nail in the coffin
’Night everyone.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
by RookTakesYou on Jan 7, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
So much of a difference Detmas was suppose to make in the Lions secondary.
It’s what I kept hearing about before the game.
Giving up 6 tds to a backup qb though
that’s pretty bad
It's important for certain top defenses
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
The league seems to me
too be turning into a league that who has weapons and what QB make the least amount of mistakes..its rediculous the scoring..10 years ago you would look at either team and say they suck on Defense they cant win it all
The Ravens/Steelers/9'ers made it with Defense, I don't think it's that much of a problem
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Unless your name is Aaron Rodgers
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Matthew Stafford is playing really stupid
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
over 5000 yds and 40 tds
how you gonna say Stafford struggled just off tonights game
looks like he just crapped out in the first round of the playoffs
but at least he made it to the playoffs, more than I can say for Freeman, and Sanchez for being the worst of the three has had the most success, Freeman the least!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 7, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
highest over/under in playoff history got smoked
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
by Buc Wild on Jan 7, 2012 11:13 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
While we are on this subject.
Do you think Sanchez is gonna be around for a while. Because he is awfull.
by bucswillwin on Jan 7, 2012 11:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If josh had the talent the jets have.
They would definetly be in the playoffs.
by bucswillwin on Jan 7, 2012 11:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Man i get so upset thinking about the bs Dom has done.
Franchise QB and he is going to ruin him if he does not get Free help.. Free is every bit the QB staford is..
After seeing how much C. Johnson is helping Stafford’s success. I am changing my hope at number 5 this year in the draft. From Morris Claibore to Justin Blackmon. To have a potential #1 receiver who can stretch the field and have incredible athleticism. Makes me feel Freeman’s number would go through the roof. I mean hell look was A.J. Green has done for Andy Dalton. and Justin Blackmon is considered a “SMART” Dez Bryant.
Also LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
I really hope we can grab him too. If we Get Blackmon and James this offense would immediately become more explosive.
My wish list for the first 3 rounds:
1. Justin Blackmon WR/Morris Claiborne CB
2. Lavonte David OLB/Vontaze Burfict ILB
3. LeMichael James RB
Sprinkle in a FA Vet (LEADER type) LB, CB, and some Oline.
had no idea he was that far down as talent.
The way people are talking about him, he’s the next coming of an elite style receiver ie Dez, or A.J. Green. Never mind then my pick is back to Morris Claiborne =)
He's the best receiver in this draft class
Which means he gets hyped up like he’d be the best receiver in any draft class.
Went back and did some research.
And IF Morris Claiborne is already off the board. I am comfortable with Blackmon. Dude catches just about EVERYTHING thrown his way..
The Dez Bryant comparison came from Warren Moon. I think he knows a thing or 2 about WR’s. Not saying he is the best of the decade, but has more potential to be an elite over anything we have right now. His ball skills are unmatched by anything in this years draft or F.A.
Plus a fun little clip i found on youtube (this is just for entertainment).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vf6e1Lz3Pw
He would help Freeman
If nothing else with out the dropped passes.
new orleans,atlanta
can both go 2 hell.
anybody see who we play nxt year. another ridicolous schedule
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