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Mike Zimmer a Coaching Candidate for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?

CINCINNATI, OH - SEPTEMBER 1: Cincinnati Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer argues with head linesman Kent Payne #79 during an NFL preseason game against the Indianapolis Colts at Paul Brown Stadium on September 1, 2011 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Colts won 17-13. (Photo by Joe Robbins/Getty Images)

Mike Zimmer first came to light as a candidate for the Bucs' coaching job when the Tampa Bay Times listed him as "on the radar". Whether the Tampa Bay Buccaneers actually see him as a valid prospect is impossible to say right now. They haven't asked permission to interview him, which they need as long as the Bengals are in the playoffs. At the same time the Bucs haven't asked permission to interview any assistant coach currently in the playoffs - at least as far as we know. They may be waiting until those teams are eliminated. Which in the case of the Bengals really shouldn't take all that long.

Mike Zimmer has a good track record, at least. He has had a lot of experience as a defensive coordinator and has consistently produced quality defenses. He's spent time with three different teams this past decade as a coordinator, coaching the Cowboys' defense from 2000 to 2006, the Falcons' defense in 2007 and the Bengals from 2008 until now. Most impressive might be his work with the Bengals defense, where he turned a terrible defense into one of the best in the league - despite having limited organizational support in Cincinnati. As always, though, the question is whether that translates to being a good head coach.

Previous Experience
Cincinnati Bengals Profile

QB, LB, Illinois State, 1974-76
Assistant Coach, Missouri, 1979-80
Assistant Coach, Weber State, 1983-88
Defensive Coordinator, Washington State, 1989-93
Assistant Coach, Dallas Cowboys, 1994-99
Defensive Coordinator, Dallas Cowboys, 2000-06
Defensive Coordinator, Atlanta Falcons, 2007
Defensive Coordinator, Cincinnati Bengals, 2008-present

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Why Mike Zimmer should be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Head Coach

  1. Has had consistent, sustained success as a defensive coordinator
    Mike Zimmer started his job as a defensive coordinator with the Dallas Cowboys in 2000, taking over a decent but very old defense. He would spend the next years overhauling that defense, and had them performing as one of the best units in football in 2003. That defense collapsed in 2004, but he had them back playing at a respectable level in the following two years. While he didn't get much of anything done in Atlanta, that was just one season in the trainwreck that was the Bobby Petrino-led Falcons. Most impressive may be his work in Cincinnati, as that team has managed to get to the playoffs twice in four years on the strength of his defense.

    All that to say that Mike Zimmer is a very good defensive coordinator who could probably turn around a pretty disastrous Tampa Bay defense fairly quickly.
  2. Experience on different staffs gives him a large network to hire from
    Mike Zimmer has coached under a lot of different head coaches, but his record as a coordinator there may be most important. Coaching under Dave Campo, Bill Parcells, Bobby Petrino and Marvin Lewis with a lot of different coaching staffs gives him access to a lot of good coaches. That's key in putting together a coaching staff, and that should be no problem for Zimmer.
  3. Runs a 4-3 defense
    The one place on defense where the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have managed to stockpile talent has been along the defensive line. With four first- and second-round picks invested over the past two seasons, whoever walks into the head coaching job will have a lot of talent there and how they handle that talent could make or break that defense. If the Bucs move to a two-gap 3-4 or otherwise change the responsibilities of that defensive line, they could end up throwing away all that talent. That would necessitate another three or four seasons of re-building - and that could spell doom for the coach. With Mike Zimmer running an aggressive 4-3, there's no need to worry about any of that.
Why Mike Zimmer should not be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Head Coach
  1. Has no previous head coaching experience
    This isn't necessarily a deal-breaker, but if you're looking for someone with experience to lead a young team, this is not the man you want. He has no head-coaching experience and while his record as a coordinator is impressive, there's a lot that comes with being a head coach that being a coordinator doesn't teach you. Can he learn to be a good head coach? That's a question that can't be answered except through trial and error.
  2. Is a defensive coordinator, not an offensive-minded head coach
    Priority number one for the Bucs should be to get Josh Freeman back on track. Hiring a defensive coordinator as head coach doesn't fit with that. Defensive coordinators tend to be conservative in calling games and the way they want to build their offenses, which doesn't mesh well with the modern NFL either. And then there's the troubling fact that defensive coordinators have not had a lot of success as head coaches.
  3. He hasn't a head coaching opportunity before
    And there's certain to be a reason for that. Zimmer even noted that he
    was frustrated with his lack of opportunity and compared his situation to Tony Dungy's in the mid '90s: being passed up time after time. Mike Zimmer has an excellent resume, so why has he been passed up? Yahoo!'s Jason Cole noted that there's a perception that Zimmer has hit his ceiling. Evidently there are concerns with Zimmer, but are they legitimate, or is this just a self-perpetuating myth?

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Would Mike Zimmer be a good head coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?
Yes
190 votes
No
100 votes
I don't know
101 votes

391 votes | Poll has closed

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I would feel extremely excited if we brought in Zim..if we brought him in and didn’t hire him would be fine but this guy will most certainly get a shot somewhere but I will be very disappointed if we don’t atleast bring him in for an interview

by TampaBayAllTheWayFromCaliforni-A on Jan 7, 2012 4:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i think this would be a great hire

He seems to be well respected in the NFL by players and coaches, much better than Sherman I think. Sherman already failed as a head coach, and i dont think players like him much, which we dont need if we want to be big players in free agency.

by mlowebucs on Jan 7, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry about the first comment.

I am not well informed about coaches. But I want an offensive minded coach. Who would be the best candidate?

by bucswillwin on Jan 7, 2012 4:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Agreed..

East Coast Fan

by Bucfan on Jan 7, 2012 4:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Dont u think it would be better for us to get a coach who will be well respected,

so our coach can bring in some big name coordinators. Chud to me doesn’t fit what we need.

by mlowebucs on Jan 7, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

why do you think chud is not well respected in the league?

and why would we need big name coordinators? names don’t win games, ask philly. i want a guy that can coach these young players and get this franchise where it should be. i don’t care if we hire a coach who brings in rocky and bullwinkle as coordinators as long as the team wins.

by big_wile on Jan 7, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

For the sake of argument, let's say we go with a former DC...

Who are some of the better OC’s out there that we’d look at? I understand the HC sets the tone on both sides of the ball, but we shouldn’t shortchange a potential candidate if we can also nab — simultaneously even — a great OC.

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by jMagic09 on Jan 7, 2012 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

Assuming no lateral moves

I’d look at Tom Clements (Packers QB coach), Josh McDaniels (though his move to New England is reportedly done) and Mike Martz. Those are the only names I can come up with right now, but there are probably many more out there.

by Sander on Jan 7, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Been saying this all along. We have to look at a coach that can bring in good coordinators on both sides of the ball.

by gusjackson on Jan 8, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

jay gruden?

ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!

by dcbucsfan on Jan 7, 2012 5:21 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

true

seems like a good coach

ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!

by dcbucsfan on Jan 7, 2012 5:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I think this is the first coach

where the poll is actually favoring yes.

No matter how much they are hyped, my teams always find a way to disappoint.

by thedudeofdudes on Jan 7, 2012 8:37 PM EST reply actions  

Personnaly, I like Zimmer better than Fisher anyway

Fisher is certainly not a bad HC candidate, but his track record is not as good as some seem to think. A couple of good years, a couple of bad ones, then 1-2 good ones, and so on. Looks like a guy who’s always in a “win now” mode and doesn’t care about the future. We had a guy like that before. Jon Gruden won a SB with Dungy’s team, then he slowly destroyed it by doing patchwork with old free agents instead of developing young players. Fisher seems to be that kind of guy, although not to the same degree as Gruden.

Zimmer is more of a gamble, but I like his upside.

by clicjf on Jan 8, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

i would be on board with zimmer

providing he brings in someone knowledgeable on the the o side of the house. i have no ideas on who that would be, i don’t care if it’s someone i’ve heard of or not, there’s lots of good coaches out there who i’ve never heard of; i just want a guy who’s not in over his head like morris was. that being said, i’d rather hire chud and get a strong dc. could we please contact brian billick too? all these names out there and billick just sitting around waiting for a call.

by big_wile on Jan 7, 2012 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

Zimmer would be a good fit

Lots of assistants who get passed over time and time again tend to do pretty darn well when they finally get a shot.

by DraftPhantom on Jan 7, 2012 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

Quick question

Considering all the variables like age, experience, track record and what type of coach our teams needs, who would be the better choice if it came down to Marty Schottenheimer or Zimmer? One’s a defensive mind, the other more offense oriented.

by ncbucfan on Jan 8, 2012 12:06 PM EST reply actions  

I'd take Zimmer

Though I wouldn’t get real excited about either. Schottenheimer has had a lot of success, but his philosophy is ridiculously conservative.

by Sander on Jan 8, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks, Sander

Do you think yesterday’s loss should have any weight in considering Zimmer? It seems a football game answers questions like no interview can. Also, since this is the season for speculation what about the combo of Kelly from Oregon matched with Del Rio as DC?

by ncbucfan on Jan 8, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

I think Zimmer's had too much success as a DC to let one game determine much

Chip Kelly is intriguing, but probably out of reach. Nike will do whatever it takes to keep him in Oregon.

by Sander on Jan 8, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

he's done some very good things with cincy's defense

they don’t have a ton of talent and all-pros on that d but they play their asses off and as it turns out hustle and determination can overcome a lack of talent. this guy gets the most out of his players. i’m not saying that cincy’s d is taent-less, but they don’t have a bunch of guys that anyone ever hears about, they just play sound team defense.

by big_wile on Jan 8, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  


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