Where Does the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Coaching Job Rank?
by Sander on Jan 6, 2012 1:58 PM EST
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PrintThe question of who the Bucs will hire as their head coach is marred by uncertainty right now, and it's only made worse by the fact that prospective head coaches could decline for other, more attractive jobs. With the Miami Dolphins, the St. Louis Rams, the Kansas City Chiefs and the Jacksonville Jaguars looking for head coaches there's plenty of competition. The Indianapolis Colts (and Andrew Luck) could join the competition once they've decided on a General Manager, too.
So where does the Bucs' coaching job rank? SB Nation asked that very question, and I felt it ranked pretty highly:
There's a theory that you need two things to build a successful football team: a franchise quarterback, and players to knock down the opponent's quarterback. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have both. While Josh Freeman has had a rough year, his terrific 2010 season can't be overlooked. He's clearly the best quarterback on a team looking for a new head coach. As for pass-rushers, the Bucs have invested four first- and second-round picks in their defensive line over the past two years. The Bucs have talent at the right positions, they have the cap space to add as many players in free agency as any team in the league and they have the fifth overall pick in the draft. How can you beat that job?
Of course, others disagree. ESPN's Mel Kiper has the Bucs ranked fourth (Insider content):
Pros: There's no question that Josh Freeman has a ton of talent, but his regression in 2011 was pretty startling. That said, you have a good quarterback, a good running back in LaGarrette Blount and a pair of talented receivers in Arrelious Benn and Mike Williams. The offensive line is spotty, but in places, such as Pro Bowl guard Davin Joseph, there's ability. On defense, the secondary is a real problem, but there is real potential up front if guys can stay healthy. In Gerald McCoy and Adrian Clayborn, you have the beginnings of a solid front four. From a personnel standpoint, the Bucs are better off than teams higher than them on this list.
Cons: Will Freeman bounce back? I actually think he will because his completion percentage and general accuracy may have gotten even better in 2011, but he got unlucky on some INTs and simply took too many chances, which is the cause of the huge spike in INTs from six in 2010 to 22 in 2011. However, in the NFC South, Tampa's quarterback may be less of a concern than the one's you're facing. Consider jumping to a team where you're guaranteed to face Matt Ryan, Drew Brees and Cam Newton each twice a year. Further, you inherit a defensive unit that was among the worst in the NFL in a number of areas. Tampa has some pieces, but the many question marks and the rival competition knock it down a peg.
Tom Jones of the Tampa Bay Times also thought the Bucs' job should be ranked fourth:
The attractiveness of this job depends on two things: Do you believe Josh Freeman is a franchise quarterback? And do you believe the Glazers when they say they're going to spend money? Freeman still has plenty of believers among NFL analyst types, which is good because the Bucs are not going to start from scratch with another QB. The new coach is going to be married to Freeman for the foreseeable future. There are some other parts in place (a potentially good defensive line, for instance), but the roster has more questions than answers. Hey, if the franchise was in good shape, there wouldn't be an opening. Ultimately, it comes down to whether you trust the Glazers and GM Mark Dominik to give you the support you need by doing their jobs well.
Bottom line: Hard to have faith in the Glazers and Dominik based on recent history.
So where do you think the Bucs' coaching job ranks?
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There's nothing positive about our D, not the line, the lb, or the cbs.
The D alone is probably what chased Fisher away, it’s a complete rebuild.
Raheem was the DREAM that turned into a NIGHTMARE..
there's a lot of positive...
in our D, and our team for the most part. Yes, the crap that they put on the field this year was awful. But it is amazing what a good HC can do with a talented under achieving team.
If we had a Tom Coughlin coaching this team next year, I promise they would have an 8-8 record at best. This team needs a leader at the top, not a buddy like Raheem.
If I could wear a bucs shirt with a noles hat for the rest of my life, by golly I would be the happiest man in the world.
Did you watch any Bucs games this year? Look at any stats?
Raheem was the DREAM that turned into a NIGHTMARE..
He has a point
Look how started the season. We beat the Saints and Falcons. We have talent, we are just missing leadership. If you dont think that then you sir have not watch a sinlge game yourself
Is that when the two of you stopped watching? After the Saints games?
Oh I know for sure I didn’t stop watching, and I know I saw missed tackles, out of position players, and every single one of the 494 points that was scored on us this season. Actually, they looked awful even at 4-2 and 10-6 last year too. This team needs a lot more than just a new coach, it needs to let go of stock pile of practice squad players and get some players that have skill and want to play football, not just collecting paychecks.
Where the heck is Keyser?
Missed tackles and out of position players you say?
Sounds like something a good coach could rectify. Not really talent related.
If you had said slow, near-sighted, uncoordinated men with butter fingers… THAT would be talent related.
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
well
Seeing how we lost our best defensive player yeah. Im judging the team when they played their best football. McCoy went down and you can’t say that didn’t hurt us. Would the defense been dramatically better with mccoy probably not but we were killed by injuries this season on both sides of the ball
by gusjackson on Jan 14, 2012 2:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I watched every game,
and I also watched every game of 2010.
If I could wear a bucs shirt with a noles hat for the rest of my life, by golly I would be the happiest man in the world.
What I was saying is there isn't that much talent, potential on the line? Yeah, there is, but after that we stink.
Other than Barber who’s most likely leaving and Talib who could be gone too, our secondary SUCKS. Our LB’s? Who would you really want to keep? These guys couldn’t play for any other team in the league, they are purely CFL players, and should not be here, but we’re stuck with them.
Where the heck is Keyser?
Obviously this team is not ready to win the South,
but there is talent. Yes, we need help in the secondary. If we grab one of the two CB studs in the draft, then that will immediately help out the secondary. If we grab a real MLB, move Foster out on the side, then I think the D can start to come together. Grab an offensive minded head coach with a good defensive coordinator, and you never know.
Lets not get crazy here and just write off this team.
Im not comparing the two teams, but the Packers did go 6-10 the season before they won the Super Bowl and have home-field advantage throughout this playoffs.
If I could wear a bucs shirt with a noles hat for the rest of my life, by golly I would be the happiest man in the world.
Don't forget the OL upgrades necessary...
a shiny new RT and an upgrade over Faine in the middle for sure. Possibly another G and we may be on to something.
Dang – I just named 60% of our OL.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 7, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
this is how bad the Bucs really are
My best friend said this to me yesterday..I looked at it and said man youre right.. made me want to cry .. he told me to look at this roster vs the Bucs and then asked me who i would bet on to win . Here is the roster.
Offense — QB: Andrew Luck, Stanford; RB: David Wilson, Virginia Tech; RB: LaMichael James, Oregon; WR: Robert Woods, USC; WR: Ryan Broyles, Oklahoma; TE: Dwayne Allen, Clemson; OL: Will Blackwell, LSU; OL: Matt Kalil, USC; OL: Kevin Zeitler, Wisconsin; OL: Cordy Glenn, Georgia; C: Scott Wedige, Northern Illinois.
Defense — DL: Vinny Curry, Marshall; DL: Andre Branch, Clemson; DL: Nick Perry, USC; DL: Frank Alexander, Oklahoma; LB: Jarvis Jones, Georgia; LB: Sean Porter, Texas A&M; LB: Tank Carder, TCU; DB: Chase Minnifield, Virginia; DB: Casey Hayward, Vanderbilt; DB: Markelle Martin, Oklahoma State; DB: David Amerson, North Carolina State.
Special Teams — P: Shawn Powell, Florida State; K: Caleb Sturgis, Florida; KR: Tyler Lockett, Kansas State; PR: Joe Adams, Arkansas; All-Purpose: T.Y. Hilton, Florida International.
I looked as this roster and said yeah. give them a few weeks to practice together they would beat the Bucs.. Well guess what will make u want to cry.. that is not the first team all american list.. ITS THE SECOND TEAM!!!!
Our D isnt that bad
I think there’s talent on our D but we just gave up towards the end of the year. I believe that the players did not believe that coaching staff could get them victories on a consistent basis. No one was saying how bad our D was when we beat up the Falcons and defeated the Saints.
Isnt that BAD?
if u subtract Mccoy who cant stay healthy . We are who we are the worst D in the NFL . i dont want to hear they quit. thats not true.. they are not good. that is the facts. now do we have some idividual players? yes we do. Do we have some players who MAY develope yes.. BUT no one can say we have good players on either side of the ball. Having 10 players who can start on half the NFL rosters is not good
If you subtract the best defensive player
From any defense and they wont be as good. We were bad to start with and without mccoy we were horrible. And yes the team did quit. The defense started off playing decent football. I don’t recall getting blown out by atl and the saints in the beginning of the season.
by gusjackson on Jan 14, 2012 2:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The team is interesting but....
We are in a tough division. Probably the toughest in football with an up in coming panthers team. St. Louis has a slightly easier division seeing how their only competition is San Fran.
our D line is a positive. LB's snd DB' are not.
Miami would rank number 1, with Tampa at 2. Dolphins have better defends.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 6, 2012 2:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Agree/Disagree
They have a better d but that offense needs work. And they have to find an ever illusive franchise QB
I agree too.
They are better defensively. Having freeman here helps in franchise QB department as long as 2011 was an aberation and not a vision of the future.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 6, 2012 2:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Other than qb
I take their running game, the line is better at least at run blocking and Marshall will easily be our number 1 wide out if he were here.
I think the big problem is our talent is questionable
I thought we’d be high on the list, but as I think about it more I’m not so sure.
We look solid at DE. On the line we have had major injury issues with DT and not much depth. The linebackers are probably the worst in the NFL. The secondary has been a disaster at both corner and safety, and we’re looking at losing maybe both Barber and Talib on top of it.
On offense, Freeman might be great or he might never be good again. Iffy. On the line, Penn and Joseph are good, but the other 3 spots are not. At running back we have Blount, but there are a lot of questions about both his talent and his brains. At 3rd down back, nothing. Receivers did not look good last year at all. Maybe it is a sophmore slump they’ll come out of, but maybe they won’t.
Every spot that we have ‘talent’ is questionable right now outside of a few spots on both lines, and a lot of positions don’t have talent at all.
And then there are the critical questions I don’t have enough information to answer. Keeping Dominik as GM might be viewed as questionable to a desirable coach. Are the Glazer’s even willing to bring in some good free agents finally? Maybe, but I have my doubts. How about the coaching staff? Are they going to shell out for a big coach’s staff? Who knows.
the players quitting has got to be the biggest concern for this franchise in this offseason.
If I was a coaching candidate, I would be very concerned about that!!!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 6, 2012 2:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Shouldn't be a concern
Because I know if I were the knew coach, those players wouldn’t be here anymore.
Where the heck is Keyser?
Just about everyone quit!
There is no way you can get rid of everyone. Its really discourging for a new head coach that comes to not be able to talk about xs and os but to have to fix all these bad attitudes and teach them how to work, prepare, and not be a bunch of quitters
by Stormin Monkee on Jan 6, 2012 3:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yep, if they were to totally clean house of all the quitters
On this team, that would set us back an additional 3 to 5 years. Instead, they should make an example of a few and teach the many a lesson.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 6, 2012 4:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They'll let go the ones they feel aren't putting in the effort, he won't be doing his job if he doesn't.
Letting one guy go is making an example.
Where the heck is Keyser?
But letting go multiple players sends a bigger example right?
That’s what needs to happen. We obviously have some players here who don’t want to be here.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 7, 2012 10:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think overall, the Bucs have the fewest problems
Provided that ownership really is willing to spend the money.
That is a big if too.
If the glazers pony up the money for quality FA.s, than we will be in better shape. Hopefully they do!!!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 6, 2012 4:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
There's 2 parts of that
Paying for them and getting ones that will come here. We might have to overpay on second tier FA’s, but so be it. We just need a better core right now and just the draft won’t cut it.
agreed, the draft alone is not enough.
We have to show and convince the FA’S that we are willing to win. Actions mean than words more now then ever.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 6, 2012 5:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My ranks from best to worst:
1: Miami – They had tons of momentum at the end of the year and Matt Moore is a solid starting QB.
2: St. Louis – They have more pieces in place than the Bucs. They have a top notch RB and WR. Look at what their Defense did to New Orleans earlier this year. Only thin to worry about is Sam Bradford.
3: Tampa Bay – I can’t imagine this miraculous bounce-back from Freeman next year. The whole offense looked utterly puney. Blount is not a star back; he shows up for one out of every four games. Aside from the D-Line, the rest of the Defense sucks. I think my grandmother could’ve outplayed EJ Biggers this year.
4: Jax – Really, who can ever see them rising to glory any time soon?
A woman who knows her sports.
by Bucs-RaysChick on Jan 6, 2012 2:24 PM EST reply actions
St. Louis has nothing
They have two good DEs and an expensive (but not that great) safety, and that’s it on defense. On offense, Steven Jackson is basically worn out, the offensive line is problematic, Sam Bradford looked absolutely horrible this year (much, much worse than Freeman) and their only WR is Brandon Lloyd.
St. Louis really doesn’t have all that much.
Brandon Lloyd is leaving also
He has stateted he will try and follow McDaniels. Need to fill a whole at WR hire McDanils OC .. He brings his own…lolll
Still can't believe those idiots cut Laurent Robinson
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
About Freeman
You couldnt imagine a miraculous bounce back. Question: Did you imagine him having a season this bad? You could make a laundry list of QB that struggle thier third year. One thing Freeman did do is improve his passing percentage. A lot of his INT were due to tipped/dropped balls or receivers running the wrong route. Freeman got alittle over confident this year and paid for when he took dumb chances. Chances that he wasnt taking in 2010. I think he will bounce back next year and depending on the new coach/playcalling. He could be due for his best season ever
I don't think Josh Freeman...
is as good as his 2010 season made him look, or as bad as his 2011 season made him look.
Would be nice to have a legit offensive wizard come in, work with Freeman A LOT, find a mentor-ish backup QB to bounce things off of, and see what happens.
If there is no real improvement – then we panic.
Playcalling was very predictable and his WR's just weren't making the plays like they did last year.
Where the heck is Keyser?
I dont think we can be fair i judging freeman just yet.
I agree that he is probably somewhere between his last two seasons. Olson being gone should help as long as a competent replacement is brought in. Also, the receivers regressing and the poor pass blocking were detrimental as well. Whoever they get to come in better have the ability to get the most out of freeman.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 6, 2012 7:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think he is
I think this team has spot talent. I just think WE all were fooled.. We were all lied to WE all drank the kool-aid Mark Dom would pop on and say ITS all about 5 . We will biuld around Free .. Free wins 10 games looks promising. Does Dom stick to his word and build around Free? No he does NOT! not onlydoes he Not add anything to the O. He allows caddy to walk and says you have Lumkin to develope MAN THIS KOOL-AID DOES NOT TASTE WELL RIGHT NOW.!! MOM FIX IT!!!!
the heart of the problem
Your right and it makes me sick.
by gusjackson on Jan 14, 2012 2:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I honestly think
He can do better than his 2010 year. Give him an offseason and more weapons and a defense that doesnt have him playing from behind all the time and I think we could see greatness.
We are a more attractive destination than Jacksonville,
the Chiefs most likely already have their HC in Crennel, and Fisher will be occupying either the Miami or St. Louis job. That means we have to compete with either St. Louis or Miami for every other possible coaching candidate out there other than Fisher. I like our chances of getting a quality coach.
Oderint dum metuant
We are going by just potentioal with qb and d-line
Almost the whole back seven on defense needs to be revamped, we have the most ovverrated o-line in the league other than Penn and Joseph the rest needs to be tweaked, need a real running back(no Blount ain’t a feature back), and we are seeing if our young wide outs are really playmakers or held back by the poor coaching of Olsen not to mention we have a tight end who lost his legs and is making more highlights with his mouth.
Yeah there is the divsion we play in too plus the coach not only needs to regain Freeman his confidence but also get him to play at an even higher lever than he did in 10 trying to outgun Brees, Ryan, and Cam Cam.
Two factors at play
First, watching a team self-destruct over ten games, getting worse with each loss would give a potential candidate plenty of reason to pause. Second, the history of both decision making and extreme frugality since Malcom no longer had input would cause a candidate to question whether or not the Glazers (the brothers triumvirate) really want or know how to field a competitive team.
My take on the players “quitting” was it wasn’t a matter of intentional lack of effort on most of the players part. Some, yes. It appeared more like total confusion on gaps, coverages and overall schemes if any. Remember when Morris said he didn’t want to give his players the “answers” after the Patriots pre-season beat down. I don’t think he had any. There was just enough lack of ota rust on our opponents during those first six games but by the time the remainder of our schedule got cranked up we we were no match for any of them.
There's positives and negatives with every team
yes there are some positives in the jaguars position. MJD lead the league in rushing and their defense was pretty solid, a decent QB would suddenly make that team relevant again.
I think a big aspect in determining the level of attractiveness behind the Bucs job is the commitment of the Glaziers. If the Glaziers are now willing to spend on FA, and bring in quality pieces, then this job becomes very desirable. Young team, good young core, & money to sign FAs to strengthen this core. If the Glaziers don’t want to spend, then the job is extremely undesirable. Morris’ coaching ability aside, the Glaziers really did not put him in a position to succeed based on the talent currently on this roster. If their not willing to add significant pieces in FA, then your looking at another 2-3 years with a lot of losses and a probable firing.
We also have Mons Venus and 2001
Beat that, St. Louis!
I. Second. That.
If I could wear a bucs shirt with a noles hat for the rest of my life, by golly I would be the happiest man in the world.
Nothing beats a quality strip joint!!!! Lol
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 6, 2012 5:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
kilgire must have a hot wife too!!!!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 7, 2012 10:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
marty schottenheimer
I believe he could turn this franchise around.He is a proven winner and he is great defensive mind.I want him as our Head Coach.
Yes
I’m with you let the Marty train start!!!
by Jediel3 on Jan 6, 2012 4:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Marty is good, but teams will only hire a Brian-Marty package
because Marty is getting old, and probably only wants to help his son get a head coaching job.
Nope
Brian wants to do his own thing. He wont be with Marty
by gusjackson on Jan 14, 2012 3:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Funny story...
My buddies from KC used to swear up and down that Marty Schottenheimer was a huge coke dealer. Obviously they were just idiots, but they believed it so wholeheartedly I still laugh when I think about that old man slingin rocks.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
I seriously doubt marty would want to coach anymore.
I would love to have a young Marty, but at his age now, I will pass.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 7, 2012 10:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Steve
Steve Spagnuolo as our defensive coordinator would be good too.
Honestly... I think we fall behind MIA
on that list, but remain ahead of STL and KC.
We do have some young talent on the DL, and a few pieces on offense. Outside of that we are a train-wreck. On the flip side, we do have a massive amount of money to spend.
I do think the Glazers are sending out some weird signals though – and it may turn off some people. They remain silent, and when they DO say something, it comes out all cryptic and can be taken many different ways. Silence is not their friend here – let the fan base, and your HC candidates, know something. Right now all they, and we, know is you are very secretive and don’t like to spend your money.
Not exactly a HC magnet.
Until the Glazers sons show me diff
My take on them will be just this.. They are that vet player who has won a ring, Now they want the money
I would love Marty
He is known for turning a mess into success.His last year in the NFL,he went 14-2.His kicker screwed it up in the playoffs.I will take the package deal.Brian as OC/ASST Head Coach and Steve Spagnuolo as D/C.I think this is the best way to go.Marty,Marty,Marty.
68 years old.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
No thank you. He is too old.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 7, 2012 10:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think the owners are a big reason.
Potential coaches my be over looking this job. Some of pieces are there but you have to question the Glazers commitment to winning.
by ctd1977 on Jan 6, 2012 5:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Glazers
They need to open their pockets and pick up a proven H/C,such as Marty Schottenheimer,not a project coach,too risky.
Who do you think the best canadite is?
I would like Bill Cowher,but we all know where his head is.
I could maybe get behind that if he had some head coaching experience
I’m fine with hiring college guys, but they need to know what it’s like to be a head coach and have some NFL experience preferably.
CHUD
I would be on board for Chud,Mularkey,Schottenheimer or Joe Philbin.
Nah I couldn't be a good head coach, I'd be going all "woody hayes" on the sideline LOL
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 6, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
I know punching somebody would be barbaric
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 6, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
How many years have we been chatting on here? And I just realized it's LOST in IA, geez.
Sorry about that.
Where the heck is Keyser?
I'm sort of sick of checking the internet constantly
and waiting on some news for the Bucs future.
by Barbaric on Jan 6, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If it's Sherman get ready for three more years of suck
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 6, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
i am already preparing myself on being dissapointed in the coach we hire
and the results we will probably see on the field again in 2012. I truly hate being dissapointed.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 6, 2012 7:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I feel like the more disappointed the average fan is the better off we will be in the future.
F Slow
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I wont be
I refuse to drink the Kool-aid until we win or Dom is gone..I will watch my Bucs and support my Bucs. But i will not let them dissapoint me Not when they have a GM who hired the HC , He also hire the Oc and the DC that we fired last season . Dom hired every possision coach. he hand picked the players. NOW how is it he hires all the coaches he picks all the players.. it fails and the HC is they one who goes? I dont think Dom has a clue. Honestly i dont . and it makes me sad.
I think we have 3 more years of suck no matter who comes in..
….but its time to get it going in the right direction.
sad but true.....
there won’t be any “worst to first” miracles next year
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 6, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
not with the teams we have to face in the NFC south.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 6, 2012 9:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
On the bright side, Brees probably only has about 3 years left, dude is getting old
and the Saints are the Aints without him.
Where the heck is Keyser?
There are a lot of delusional people voting on this site
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by Warde on Jan 6, 2012 7:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
You can say that again.
Fact of the matter is, our entire team quit. We tried to plug rookies in starting roles, which backfired worse than anything i’ve seen in quite a while. The WHOLE situation sucks. Its going to take a true near-genius of a coach to get us back on track.
Someone who has trasformed crap into contender
Look no further then Marty Schottenheimer.
Oh he is still alive...
Is Barry Switzer available as well?
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Gotta give you credit for consistency
but cheese and rice, let it go man.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Thinking the same thing....this site is littered with delusion.
…I am all for being a fan, but some folks are blinded by the pewter colored glasses.
Well he is only 68.
He has been coaching and has transformed teams in a remarkable way and has a great track record and is a lot better then a guy who couldn’t cut it in college or a guy named Jeff Fisher who could mess up a wet dream.
I don't get the fascination with him,neither he nor Fisher won the Superbowl, so what makes him any better?
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 6, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
let me begin
He has a better regular season winning % than Chuck Noll.Out of his 21 seasons as an NFL head coach only 2 have been losing seasons.He specializes in turning a mess into a winner right away. He brings discipline and organization where there is a mess.Because if he fails it would be his 1st time.
What if he dies of a stroke?
Then where would we be?
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
ask yourself a question.
Wouldn’t the playoffs be a nice problem to have? We nned discipline and organization.who is better?He could win us a Super Bowl.
13 times he lost 5-13 record.
Out of 21 NFL seasons it is pretty impressive that he has been to the playoffs so many times.
Funny
Your not the owner and who would you prefer being your such a genius?
They fired Dungy cause he couldn't get past the NFC title game, why in god's name would they hire him?
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 6, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think our perspective has changed a little since then...
as we had a powerful D and flirted with the playoffs yearly. Dungy got us very close – and kept us there. It took a fiery Gruden to take that last step. I don’t know about you, but I would love to be able to bitch about getting knocked out of the playoffs in the 2nd round.
The only way we get to the playoffs now is just like everybody else – but a ticket.
Obviously if age and time spent out of the NFL doesn't matter
I think we all prefer Jimmy Johnson.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Agreed, jimmy johnson would be a great hire.
Plus he already lives in Florida. Never happen though… Sniff, lol
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 7, 2012 11:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not saying they would,but should.
It would be smart to get this organization out of chaos because he has done it before.I’m in no position to make decisions.
They fired a coach who actually won a superbowl, it's unrealistic to think they would hire a coach who failed to get there that many times
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 6, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Dungy really won that Superbowl.
C’MON MAN.
Derrick Brooks himself said it was time for a change
when Dungy was let go. He said that Gruden was the spark they needed to get over the hump. So as much as I understand what you’re trying to say…the players themselves give credit to Gruden.
I'm pretty sure Jon Gruden was the coach
And I’m also pretty sure that offense looked nothing like any one of Tony Dungy’s offense.
How long did it take Dungy to acheive greatness?
I didn’t say they would.I said they should.
Once again, people completely forget about what Sam Wyche and Rich McKay did for this team before Dungy got here,
and then say Gruden won with Dungy’s team. Well, Dungy took over a nicely stocked Wyche team.
Where the heck is Keyser?
Youre exactly right
When Dungy arived this team had Sapp . Nickerson. Lynch. Brooks. Chidi on Defense , then on Offence they had Dilfer, Gruber. Mayberry . Jackie Harris , Dave Moore. Eric Rhett ,Horace Copeland..
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"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
I fully expect the Glazers to hire a nobody, not open their wallets,
and not be committed to winning. They have a superbowl ring so I sincerely doubt they actually give a crap about this team anymore. I won’t be satisfied until the Glazers themselves are gone.
What about Rich Bisacia?
This was brought up on another webpage. but made me go hmm.. not a bad idea honestly. Besides the fact he doesn’t have any HC experience. He has an impressive resume from college to the NFL ranks. Before you go bashing the fact he was a Special Teams Coord. Give it some real thought. He always seemed to get the most out of his players, which included Offense, Defense and rookies. Our special teams always ranked among the best while he was the coach. I’ve watched him personally in training camps and game days. He’s always motivating his players, plus doesn’t take any B.S.. I still feel the main reason he left for the same position on another team was because he felt he deserved the HC job before Raheem (i also agree with that). You stick a good DC and OC with experience with him and i think you have a recipe for success and not having to break the bank to do so,…. Lemme know your thoughts.
I have no idea why anyone cares what Mel Kiper says
The only thing profound about him is his ridiculous hair. He has proven time and again that he has no insider info and every year I get entertained as some prospect that he is in love with plummets down the boards.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
He is magnificently coiffed however...
Pomade = Gravity Defiance
by Cracker Ball on Jan 7, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Probably a dapper dan man
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
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