The Great Jeff Fisher Chase: Rams vs Dolphins, Bucs out of the race?
by Sander on Jan 5, 2012 12:18 PM EST
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PrintJeff Fisher is the top prize out there, though in part that's because the veteran head coach doesn't have a lot of competition with Bill Cowher and Jon Gruden staying out of football. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are reportedly in the chase, and according to Rick Stroud he's at the top of the Bucs' list. Someone must not have told Jeff Fisher and ESPN, because Fisher will reportedly choose between the Miami Dolphins and St. Louis Rams, ignoring the Tampa Bay Buccaneers per Adam Schefter.
This comes on the heels of Ira Kaufman telling The Fabulous Sports Babe on ESPN 1040 that the Bucs weren't blown away by Jeff Fisher. Stephen Holder explained that "they are not looking at [Fisher] as superior to anyone else." The Bucs are trying to schedule an interview with Jeff Fisher according to Rick Stroud, but if ESPN can be believed they shouldn't even bother. I'm not too concerned by that, mostly because I - like the Bucs - am not overwhelmed by his resume. He's had a few good seasons, but he's also had a lot of bad seasons. He's been a solid head coach, but not an overwhelmingly dominant leader.
Whether or not the Bucs are out of the Jeff Fisher race, the Bucs are carrying on their search. They're looking at former head coaches, offensive coordinators and defensive coordinators. The one category missing from their search so far is college head coaches - unless you count Mike Sherman there. Will they bring in a college coach for an interview?
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Unfortunate
I really thought he was going to be the guy. He was my top choice. I now think it is going to be Sherman, and despite my doubts about him, I hope it works out.
Ya me either
Just a hunch they’ll pick him. I was wrong on my Fisher hunch so take it with a grain of salt.
Miami fans dont want Fisher.
They are happy with Nolan and the 3-4 defense in place. Fisher runs a 4-3. Most of the Miami faithful I have spoken with would like to bring in an offensive guy who will keep Nolan as the D Coordinator.
I think Fisher goes to the Rams, they are far more solid than the Dolphins
even though Ross has a lot of money, his team is a wreck. They should trade for Flynn.
I don't think Matt Moore is THAT bad of a QB...
and MIA had definitely shown some life of late. Have no idea where they are cap-wise, but if you got it and won’t spend it, then it’s all about the same.
Why anyone, HCs included, would prefer STL over So.Florida is a mystery to me…
The head coach is one piece
I’ll be more interested when I see the whole ’lot of ’em.
Follow me @worldwidemaldo.
Wow! Potential head coaches and free agents
don’t want anything to do with Tampa. This makes me laugh and shows just how bad we are and how bad of a reputation we have.
Tomlin was known as a "players friend" style coach while at Tampa
…he said the lonliest year of his life was his first year as head coach in Pittsburgh. He didnt want to be the players’ “friend”. Sat by himself plane/bus rides etc. It worked. I wish he would have given this advice to Raheem. (he may have, but Raheem did his own thing)
Well, Tomlin wasn't already associated with those players when he became their head coach.
Morris couldn’t have done that even if he wanted to, because he already had established relationships with a lot of those guys.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Heard a story on the radio yesterday about Tomlins first year.
A player from Pittsburgh called John Lynch and asked about Tomlin, and John Lynch said the players would love him there. When Tomlin got there, he kicked their butts on the practice squad and stayed away from them, because he wanted to establish that he’s the coach, the big man, the head cheese. So that player called John Lynch back up and said dude, what’s up with Tomlin, you lied. Pretty funny story.
Raheem was the DREAM that turned into a NIGHTMARE..
yeah...Tomlins the man.
…how does Pittsburgh get so lucky with their coaching hires? …Or is it luck? :)
Chuck Knoll, Bill Cowher, Mike Tomlin 3 coaches in what 40 years?
Sometimes no name guys outta nowhere have the most sucess
Sean Payton, Mike Smith, John Harbugh, Mike Tomlin, Mike McCarthy I’m just naming guys on top of my head.
Morris is a good coach.
…he was a great DB coach…obviously he made mistakes (he’s young) that he will learn from while the HC at Tampa. He will coach again…maybe with some tools to succeed. Let’s be honest…he wasnt good, but he didnt have the best talent in the world either.
he will be in a good position to take the head coaching job when Shanahan is fired and we all know that is coming soon
raheem might be pretty smart after all, he always seems to be in the right place at the right time
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 5, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Id prefer an oc dc then sherman
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 5, 2012 1:20 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I'm leaning OC why?
WIth all the rules restricting the defenses these days, the NFL is turning into a quarterback/offensive driven league.
I know this goes against all that is “Buc Ball” but, I think the Bucs need to find a guy that can develop Josh Freeman. Freeman has the tools, he needs someone to help refine them. I know many of you are calling for defense, defense, defense….however, this isnt 1992. The NFL has changed. Who are the favored teams this season? Saints, Packers, and Patriots…none of which have stellar defenses.
to counter your point
the ravens and bengals do, as do the giants and texans..so that’s not completely true.
I believe there is a few out there..
I’ve always felt like it would be a great idea for Tampa to buy out the contacts for either D coordinator of Alabama or LSU. Their defenses are annually great, their innovate and college coaches just seem to know how to use players to maximize their potential. Like Fisher, Tressel doesn’t excite me. Charlie Weiss would make a decent O coordinator but no one out there strikes me a good head coach material but then again you never know.
by BucFan727 on Jan 5, 2012 2:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I am taking all of this "Fisher yes - Fisher no" worth a grain of salt...
The media is so obsessed with “breaking a story” that all kinds or erroneous comments hit the newswire. When I see Fisher actually sign with some team, or a press conference is called, I will think we are out of the race.
Until then, it is all just chatter and attempted one-upsmanship.
were kinda glorifying him anyways
i mean hes a good coach and theres no one else out there so i really want him but hes not bellichick.(im allready convincing myself hes not coming here, its gonna be easier on me) a d/c o/c that hasnt been proven will have more upside. although we do need someone that is experienced no more trial and error for this team. Were allready having such trouble getting f/a s and even coaches to come play down here. I’d rather come down here then the RAMS.
He hasn't won any big games besides the AFC championship
He is renowned for his attitude and demeanor, good for whipping a bunch of young’ns into a real, like we need, but I wouldn’t chase through the woods for the guy. Too bad chucky is being a pansy and staying in the booth. Atleast in Tampa he’d be close to his family. Damn you chucky for being soft!
Did anyone else hear the NFL network (white german looking ) analyst call Gruden a girl? It was pretty quick off the tongue, but he straight up called him a girl! and he’s right, he’s being a pansy for quitting. He’s a quitter and now that I think of it, I’m glad he’s not coming back! He’d only turn our quitters into hardcore quitters. Nobody wants that. GRUDEN YOUR A FLAKE!!!!!
And he hasn't coached since before the new CBA.
Can’t wear pads, can’t touch anybody, or if it’s warm, you can’t practice stuff. The NFL is getting soft, can Fisher adapt to that?
Raheem was the DREAM that turned into a NIGHTMARE..
it really is guys
Offenses can bank on getting flags for their gain. Receivers can’t be lit up like Tjack and Phillips used to do. You can’t hit a QB legs, head. You can stiff arm but no lateral motion. plastor Clubs are outlawed (i wish they came back for real). Jamming is so restricted nobody uses it after Mel Blount. Its really getting retarded.
Did you know, the NFL has more rules and fouls than any other sport by a margin of twice?
It's also a much more complicated sport than almost any other
The NFL is changing, because they want to reduce head trauma. I really can’t bash that, even if that makes the sport softer. Head trauma and the things it does are pretty horrible. And you can still play tough, hard defense in this league. You can light receivers up – you just need to aim lower than the head/neck area. Same with QBs – just don’t hit them in the head or below the knee. Nothing wrong with stiff-arms, by the way, they’re perfectly legal. Only thing you can’t do is forcefully grab and twist the facemask. No stiff-arm requires you to do that. I’ve seen players play with clubs these past seasons, Sean Lee did this season. Jamming is also perfectly allowed and not restricted – it’s holding/otherwise pushing receivers down the field that’s illegal.
Also, please don’t use the word ‘retarded’.
two a days aren't going to reduce anything but more work for the players.
Raheem was the DREAM that turned into a NIGHTMARE..
That's baloney
There were at least a dozen 15 yard penalties that I saw personally this year that weren’t to the head or legs. Just because that is the rule that doesn’t mean it is called correctly. If a guy gets lit up after catching a pass it seems like nine times out of ten the defender is getting rung up regardless of where he hit him.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Hope you're right
because right now it seems like you can’t hit the receiver at all while he is still in the air. That’s garbage. You should be allowed to break up the pass by hitting the receiver legally. Right now, if the crowd goes “ooohhhhh” the flag comes out. They have got to fix that, and soon.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Seriously guys, when a guy looks that much like Ron Swanson from
the show Parks & Recreation (if you haven’t seen that show you should). How can we not do everything in our power to get him? LOL
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