Mark Dominik does not know how to evaluate running backs
by Sander on Jan 31, 2012 4:00 PM EST
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I like what Mark Dominik has done over the past three years, for the most part. I like the philosophy of building through the draft, although he takes it a little far, and I generally like his draft picks. But there's one position Dominik cannot get right: running back.
Dominik has talked about his criteria for running backs before. He looks for big running backs who fall forward when they're tackled. He looks for yards after contact - hidden yardage. I think that's really, really stupid. The result: players like Allen Bradford, Legarrette Blount and Kregg Lumpkin. One-dimensional players who lack speed and explosion. Players who could pound the ball inside if they were physical. Blount has developed some of that physicality, but he's still a little inconsistent. Lumpkin and Bradford never did, as Lumpkin has shown nothing as a runner and not much as a pass-catcher, while Bradford is now with the Seahawks - as a linebacker.
There's something fundamentally flawed about your evaluation criteria when they would lead you to pass on backs like Ray Rice, Maurice Jones-Drew, Adrian Peterson, Matt Forte and others. None of those players are big backs. But they do have something that Dominik's running backs lack: the ability to make a man miss. The ability to execute a jump-cut. The ability to avoid a defender in the backfield. All things that Lumpkin, Bradford and Blount can't do.
I enjoy watching Legarrette Blount run when he has a good day. When he's at his best, he consistently hits it downhill and teams struggle to tackle him. But when he has a bad day, he can't go downhill and can't make anyone miss. He's a one-trick pony, and he has no complement in the backfield because Dominik can't seem to find what other teams do: competent late-round backups.
Get this fixed, Dominik.
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Blount needs his Allen Bradford.
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by jBen05 on Jan 31, 2012 4:03 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Blount needs LaMichael James
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I'm liking Polk more than James the more I think about it
He’s really versatile. I wouldn’t take him in the 2nd, but there’s a chance he’s there in the third.
He has no lateral agility.
He runs north and south. We need someone who as Sander said, can make someone miss.
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LaMichael
I wanted sproles too.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
He can block well
He can catch well. If Blount went down, do you think LMJ could be the starting back? I’m fine with LMJ, I like him and his speed is much needed. I just think Polk is the better back at this point.
Are you looking for a change of pace back or a replacement to Blount?
Polk is a smaller, but better 3rd down version of Blount. We need someone who can break one at any moment.
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I think we need the speed in the receiving game more
In the running game I think we a second versatile. durable back more.
A change of pace back does just that.
A defense will change it’s personnel and play calling to account for a big bruising back, that’s when you bring in a Sproles or Bradshaw to catch them off guard. Big backs are more suited for late in the game when the defense is tired. I really don’t want a Blount 2.0. There is a reason that many teams have a big back paired with a small back.
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It feels like the team had no philosophy under raheem other then 'draftem big'
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Chris Johnson is a small speed guy.
Don’t hear anyone complaining about him being the work horse over there. Just saying.
good point but not alot small speed guys can make the impact cj2k did and he is deceptivley strong for his size to be that workhorse
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That is where it is at. However I do like Polk as well, he is a little lacking on the elusiveness.
by NutterBuccer on Jan 31, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Blount fell from the sky into Doms lap...
Now if he had simply selected him in the draft instead of sucky P Brent Bowden – he would get full credit for that one. Only partial credit given. Thank you and please drive through.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 31, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
I was pretty upset we didn't take Blount in the later rounds on draft day.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, LGB should have been drafted.
Goes to show that even dominik can get lucky on occassion.
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by Bucfan on Jan 31, 2012 11:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The entire team was unmotivated after london.
Plus, we all know what lazy is code word for.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Code word for rich, fat, unmotivated?
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by Bucs on Jan 31, 2012 4:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
blount is anything but rich. He's on undrafted minimums.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
He's earned two years of NFL paychecks.
That’s not too shabby. Especially if you’re in your early twenties.
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by Bucs on Jan 31, 2012 4:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Compared to most of us, but he can't keep up with Talib or Tenard who had relatively large contracts.
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Compared to almost all of us.
he’s made anywhere from 500-600K gross for his work thus far. pulling in 70 thousand for a normal person is pretty good as of today.
what the hell would I do with that much money as a twenty three year old, I ask myself.
Gene Deckerhoff is a saint.
Obviously he isn't getting paid a huge NFL contract
I just think he got too comfortable. Maybe the term is Disenchanted?
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by Bucs on Jan 31, 2012 4:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Blame can be put a fair amount on the coaching staff as well.
They weren’t winning this season, and that takes a lot of motivation out of a young mans sail.
Gene Deckerhoff is a saint.
Very true.
The only players who I saw give consistent effort was Ronde and Clayborn.
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Yes but its hard to judge by that
You will never know if he had a minor injury and just not listed on an injury report., happens often
Blount may have been disenchated in olsons pathetic offense.
Blount will have a great year in 2012 with schianos offensive philosophy. I think we will see a highly motivated player who will be playing with an expanded role. Throw in a scat back and we should be just fine.
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by Bucfan on Jan 31, 2012 11:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
his career will end up being less then 10 years with his running style. He had no chance to actually go to college while in college, and posses no skill set outside of running the football.
He isn’t rich.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Over the next 5-10 years he will make all the money he will make in his entire life.
I think he is underpaid.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
I agree that LGB needs help
I also agree with you Sander that on his good days I love watching the guy run..he’s not the smartest back in the league but I think another back/competition will do him some good..is Bradford really a LB now?
by TampaBayAllTheWayFromCaliforni-A on Jan 31, 2012 4:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
lol thats funny
Bradford got converted in a LB..
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uh oh
he’s not the smartest back in the league
After two years, he couldn’t grasp the whole play book…(now he has to learn a new one) Yikes!
He went to JC because he failed to qualify out of HS. Possible tell tell signs as to his intelligence.
If for some crazy reason RB Lamar Miller out of Miami...
Is still on the Board when we pick in the 2nd round we need to take him. He has good size at 5’11 215 great moves, and speed. He can go the distance at any time. I’d actually prefer Miller over Richardson. Miller produces great NFL backs. Alabama; not so much. I watch a ridiculous amount of Football and can’t remember the last time Bama put out a really good RB.
by ctd1977 on Jan 31, 2012 4:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
correction Miami produces great NFL backs
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They still do even though they are down right now.
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by Bucfan on Jan 31, 2012 11:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LeRon McClain and Tony Nathan
….and Shaun Alexander would all be very upset with this post. :) No Christmas card for you sir! BTW, Miller being better than Richardson is almost laughable. IMO, Richardson is once a decade talent. Sure…it remains to be seen. Remember where you heard it when you see it though.
David Wilson I think
Would be a perfect complement to LGB, but I hardly doubt we can get him in the 2nd.
by TerenceJ11 on Jan 31, 2012 4:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Wouldn't that
Be amazing if we landed Forte, but the Bears aren’t that stupid to just let him walk.
by TerenceJ11 on Jan 31, 2012 4:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd be really surprised if he plays another down as a Bear.
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by Bucs on Jan 31, 2012 4:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know..
I tend to agree with TerenceJ11, the Bears would be incredibly stupid to let him walk.
by Let's do this! on Jan 31, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
I think Forte hates ownership after getting stiffed for a new contract.
It helps that they fired their GM though.
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by Bucs on Jan 31, 2012 5:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Our only hope would be...
that Forte got SO turned off by the Bears tactics that he just wants the hell out.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 31, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Correct me if I'm worng but>>>
I’m pretty sure the Bears could actually use the Franchise tag on Forte this upcoming season; “IF” they wanted to; Wouldnt that be something?…lol… I just hope that with a new GM the Bears do the right thing and reward Forte with a new long-term contract; he lacks the flash/dash of Peterson & Johnson but if you look at the numbers kid flat out produces.
do the bears have any other big name free agents they have to hold onto??
If not he will be franchised.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Is Urlachers contract up?
That would be nice timing…
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QB Caleb Hanie UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
QB Josh McCown UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
RB Kahlil Bell RFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
RB Matt Forte RFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
WR Roy Williams UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
TE Kellen Davis UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
TE Matt Spaeth UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
P Spencer Lanning Signed Chicago Bears Jacksonville Jaguars
OG Roberto Garza UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
C Edwin Williams RFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
DL Marcus Harrison UFA (Cut) Chicago Bears Free Agent
DL Israel Idonije UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
DL Amobi Okoye UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
LB Brian Urlacher UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
CB Zackary Bowman UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
CB Corey Graham UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
CB Tim Jennings UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
SS Craig Steltz UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
FS Brandon Meriweather UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Very nice!
I don’t know that I’d franchise Urlacher over Forte though, and none of those names really jump out at me as being someone that has to be franchised over Forte.
by Let's do this! on Jan 31, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
forte is a RFA
we won’t give draft picks.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
I know
I was just saying the Bears would franchise him regardless.
by Let's do this! on Jan 31, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
That was a very DUKES thing to say...
Ha
by Cracker Ball on Feb 1, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I just don't see a point
In bringing in a LB in the absolute twilight of his career, when we probably won’t be competing for anything this year. Even though I think we have the talent level at some positions to compete, we’ve got a young team and it’s going to take a year or so to change the culture and get everyone on the same page. Why bring in Grandpa Urlacher?
If we’re not looking to draft a LB, I’d want us to try and find a reliable mid-late 20s person in FA. We don’t need flashy, just reliable.
Makes sense to me
That way we have some more leadership on the defense other than Barber and it allows us to address other positions in the draft. We can then also focus on the LB position moreso next year.
by Let's do this! on Feb 1, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Uracher could certainly...
show a younger player how to play the MLB position correctly. A “lead by example” kind of guy. I was only half serious and it was more of a “forget Forte” kind of crack – but on the other hand, we have had an issue at MLB for quite a while. I really almost, ALMOST, would consider Ruud coming back here and just adding some better players around him. He could manage the DEF calls well (and nobody was tougher on him than I was). Just wish he played with more aggression…
We should not have let Ruud walk
but that ship has sailed. His biggest value was his knowledge of the old system. That made him much more important to us than any other team. With that likely changing completely, I’m just not seeing the point of bringing him back.
I agree, we should not have let Ruud walk.
For the same reason we should consider bringing him back. While Ruud is not a great, physical MLB, he is superb in coverage and a solid tackler. His biggest failing is he’s not good at shedding blockers, but with better play up front tieing up blockers, Ruud would be in better position to make the plays we wanted him to make.
Also, we’ll almost certainly keep playing a 4-3 defense, in which LB responsibilities are similar throughout. Whether we play a man- or zone-based defense, Ruud’s coverage skills will still be very important, as will his ability to direct the defense.
That was my thinking
They’ll just do what the Chargers did to Vincent Jackson last season and franchise him regardless of how upset he may be.
But as Bucs said, firing the GM will help with Forte and his demands.
by Let's do this! on Jan 31, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Would love to see him as a Buc,
Forte and Blount would be deadly with LMJ as a change of pace(Sproles/Reggie Bush) type of back.
He's considerably worse at picking cornerbacks.
Myron Lewis has done nothing when healthy, Anthony Gaitor will be forgotten soon, and don’t you dare say E.J. Biggers is a success just because he plays a lot for a 7th round pick. Biggers gets throttled by every WR he faces and really exemplifies what one would think would happen if you started a 7th rounder at corner. Biggers is almost as much of a liability in coverage as Mack, only Dominik didn’t have a hand in picking Elbert.
To be clear, though, I’m happy with the drafts Mark has had. Sammie Stroughter was a pleasant surprise and he hits considerably more than he misses (as much as can be said in this small sample size).
Gene Deckerhoff is a saint.
I wanted to say DB's in general, but would really like to see what Black can do.
Gene Deckerhoff is a saint.
drafting a CB outside of the first round is never a good idea. Most are failures and not even serviceable.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
There are plenty of post first round corners that were serviceable to even great.
Obviously the success rate is going to decrease after the first round. Barber was a third round pick, Al Harris was a sixth round pick (wish Tampa didn’t let him go) in the same draft as Ronde. For better or worse, both are still in the league. I digress. No position needs to be limited to the first round for great talent, unfortunately for Mark all of his cornerbacks have been failures. When your seventh rounder is the best out of the bunch and objectively a liability, someone else should be evaluating the cornerback talent pool. Christ I hope they get Claiborne.
Gene Deckerhoff is a saint.
I've already done up a spreadsheet on this
One or two players are exceptions to the rule, not the standard. Outside of the first round most CBs are somewhat trash, historically.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
You know that one guy that we all want..Cortland Finnegan?
Do me a favor Dukey and please say what round he was drafted in?
by TampaBayAllTheWayFromCaliforni-A on Jan 31, 2012 4:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
exception to the rule.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
Brandon Browner, Kyle Arrington, Chris Houston, Tramon Williams, Ladarius Webb and Alphonso Smith. Well… you get the point.
by Let's do this! on Jan 31, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
This seems like a lot of "exceptions" for it to be a "rule".
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Dont argue with the duke of earl.
You will be crowned sir… Lol
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by Bucfan on Jan 31, 2012 11:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
because its not a rule...
…i think most clearly see that…no matter how many times it is repeated ad nauseam :)
It very well may be less likely than most other positions to find a quality cb in later rounds
Saying that they won’t even be serviceable is a stretch. Obviously you won’t get a too many Dick ‘Night Train’ Lanes and Mel Blounts, but you’ll get several Nick Harper like players that can start and hold their own.
Gene Deckerhoff is a saint.
I'm just trying to say that Dukey's Magical Spin-O-Wheel of logic missed on another one
by TampaBayAllTheWayFromCaliforni-A on Jan 31, 2012 4:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
40 percent of all starters are first round picks, while 80 percent of all pro bowl CBs since 2008 are first round picks.
After then first round your chances of drafting a serviceable CB drops off dramatically compared to a RB.
A position Dom has failed at.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
And it's back again...
Not being a Pro Bowler does not make you a “failurer” and “not serviceable.”
by Let's do this! on Jan 31, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
Out of the CBs starting in the league not drafted in the first. There are not many I would consider 'good'
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Alright
I’m just going to leave this be. We’ll have to agree to disagree. =)
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I have entire thread based on stats, so no. I won't agree to disagree.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Go read it it's a fan post.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
sure it will
bad GMs think otherwise.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
How long have you watched football?
Do you really think that stats are the end-all, be-all of player evaluation?
Everyone thought Matt Cassel was a diamond in the rough in 2008. He was exposed after he landed in KC.
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I did
And I was the one telling you that going based on Pro Bowls is an awful way to judge talent. You didn’t really provide any stats othe than 1st rounders make more Pro Bowls. I, however, showed that of the players on your list that have stats from 2008, 1st round CBs were 5th among all round and UFAs in terms of 50+ tackles and 9+ INTs. You didn’t prove anything.
by Let's do this! on Jan 31, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
dude to say that 40 percent of the nffl starters are first rounders is not that great.
ill bet that more than 40 percent of the starting LT are probably 1st rounders..
sure but 80 percent of pro bowl CBs were first round picks
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
yall are wasting yall time i tried to say this but some people wont listen no matter what
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICHARDSON TRAIN!!!
it is rediculous tho. he is claiming 40% of the starters are first rounders
But you cant get servicable corners after the first round. Well by his own numbers he proves that 60% of the starters or after the second round..sheesh..
a GOOD compliment.
I’d LOVE to see David Wilson in the backfield for the BUCS. Or LaMichael James.
I'm a Hokies fan
And trust me this guy is the Real deal, but like I said earlier, most likely he won’t be there when we pick in the 2nd round.
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Anyone else get the wierd ad with a guy in a ski mask and whitey tighties?
I have to keep scrolling down so know one thinks I’m looking at a gay chat site.
Oderint dum metuant
Yeah... busted for that twice would be telling
by Cracker Ball on Jan 31, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Don't worry that's Big Ben just before he goes out on a "date"
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I've watched that show before,
and believe it or not, it’s pretty funny.
We want the ball, and we're gonna score!
sort of...
He’s a one-trick pony, and he has no complement in the backfield because Dominik can’t seem to find what other teams do: competent late-round backups.
I agree with the fisrt part of this statement, but I think Blount is the change of pace guy. His skillsets do not merit NFL marquee status. I think Blount is the Robin here…the Bucs need to go find Batman.
I think you hit he nail on the head my friend...
Blount would be the perfect what I like to call “Closer”. Everybody knows that Blount is a big back but he’s Not a short yardage back or even a third down back at this time in his career. However, If we had a “Lead Back” Bolunt would be the perfect back up. Just imagine bringing him in in the 4th quater against a tired defense or how demoralizing it would be for a defense if they see a fresh LeGarrett Blount trotting out on the frield to give the “Starter” a breather…Ouch…With that said, Legerrett has tasted “1000” yards and getting him to fully by into that role would most likely be all but impossible; in his mind, he’s the “Lead Back”
Absolutely
Denver ranked 1st, New Orleans 6th in terms of rushing yards per game. Not a marquee RB on either squad, unless you consider McGehee to be marquee which I do not.
by Let's do this! on Jan 31, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
too much emphasis on the word Marquee
…all of NO’s RB’s (4) are better than Blount in my opinion. Blount can’t catch, Blount can’t block, Blount can’t learn the playbook. …not the makings of a solid RB.
lol what?
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by putupyourDUKES on Feb 1, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
very profound addition to the discussion, but...
…thanks for reminding me…he also has a history of putting the ball on the ground once every 33 touches.
He's limited, but he's pretty good at what he does do
He also has never had an offseason with his coaches.
Just don't ask him to do anything else...
when you have that kind of running talent, you can forgive other minor deficiencies.
Very true
I like Blount. I also would like a good backup/change of pace. This league has turned in a running back by commitee, it’s almost mandatory we get another good one..
by Let's do this! on Feb 1, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Running Back
Cosign! Blount is good at what he do but we need a playmaker so drafting Richardson is the answer. You don’t pass on a back like that no matter what else we need.
Exactly what I'm saying
You don’t have to have a Matt Forte or Ray Rice to have a good RB and running game.
After re-reading, I did say that word too much…
by Let's do this! on Feb 1, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Lets Stay Positive on Blount
For all those negative on Blount… and him not being the lead back in Tampa…he was “realistically” on pace to break 1000 yds again going into the last 3 games of the season. I will not judge him on that “train wreck” of a season… If that was the case, I’m calling for Josh Freeman’s head, because he didn’t look like the “franchise” he was in 2010. Perhaps some better coaching, and some more help on that offensive line will bring both those guys back to form in 12’… that being said, drafting an offensive weapon is always more fun than O-lineman or a DB… but I don’t think our needs should be RB in rd 1. I’d like to see us draft a receiver that can stretch the field. At a minimum we need to find that WR in free agency (D.Jackson?)
i know this is wrong place to post this
But what do y’all think about Stevie johnson from buffalo if they let him walk like rumors say they will would he be good in a Tampa uniform
by blountforce72 on Jan 31, 2012 7:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
we need so much I'd say any FA looks good in a tampa uniform
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 31, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
Woulnt mind Stevie Johnson; he's good but in all honesty I'd prefer a Big Receiver that can get down the Field and out jump people.
I thought we had one in Ed Gant but we never got a chance to see him during regular season. Wonder Why? Was he really that bad or was it favortism/lack of a fair chance.
Stevie Johnson has some talent
But also carries a lot of headaches with him. Being constantly penalized for excessive celebrations isn’t something that Schiano would put up with, so I don’t think Stevie will be that good of a fit in Tampa. Talent-wise sure, even though he’s not that fast, but not mentally.
I want Taiwan Jones of the Raiders in a Bucs uniform ASAP,
I wonder if the new Raiders regime would be open to moving him. He has the speed, toughness and gamechanging ability we need in a running back. Check his tape, the guy is good. He’s a little tall and and rangy but he runs tough and hits that second level with ease. He wasnt used alot last year with the effectiveness of Micheal Bush when Run DMC went down. Bucs should take a look at him, while his value is still low. He’s a small school guy but looks like he can perform at the pro level. Has a lil CJ2k to his game. Just spit balling but the Bucs need to think outside the box to address some of these holes.
I wanted him in last years draft..
However, the Raiders did what they do best; draft the fastest player available in almost every round. They drafted Taiwan Jones a round or 2 before every one expected fearing someone else would take him of the board. I doubt they’d be willing to trade him; lets hope he punches a taxi driver or something and gets cut…lol…just kidding…
Why do NFL guys punch cab drivers?
Seriously, I understand a bar fight or something, but cab drivers don’t even speak English.
Ethnocentricity in action, folks!
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
by Kilgore on Jan 31, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was in a cab in north Tampa once, driver started trying to charge us more money one of the guys I was with
freaked out and started choking him, you know your’e drunk driver tries to pull something shady, then something bad happens
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 31, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Also
I doubt Talib punched the cabby for no reason, he was probably provoked
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 31, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Oh totally
After all, Talib is normally such a calm and reserved pacifist.
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
Exactly.
Talib has never raised a hand in unjustified anger before….a helmet sure, but not a hand lol.
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by Bucfan on Jan 31, 2012 11:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Not really understanding why people think LMJ couldn't be the feature back if Blount goes Down.
LaMichael James- 5’9" 185
Chris Johnson-5’11" 191
Maurice Jones-Drew- 5’7" 208
Lesean McCoy- 5’11" 207
I’m expecting him to add 5-7 more pounds at least this offseason. I think, if need be, James could carry the rock in extended duty if called upon.
by flash_kiley on Feb 1, 2012 12:07 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Dont forget what warrick dunn was able to do here and in atlanta
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Feb 1, 2012 1:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
yea but dunn was strong
LMJ doesnt jump out to me as that kind of guy.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICHARDSON TRAIN!!!
I haven't seen enough LMJ to make an informed
decision… but it doesn’t seem to be a stretch for any decent back to surpass Blount in productivity.
James is an exciting player
but he will probably end up more like Jahvid Best than any of those other guys you listed
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
I'd be ok with that.
If Jahvid Best had a reliable person to split carries with, he wouldn’t be injured nearly as often as he is. The big difference between Best and LMJ would be we wouldn’t take LMJ in the first round, and probably not even in the 2nd, so getting starter-level production out of him would mean he was still a great pick for wherever we take him, and if he goes down for a while it’s not like we spent a top pick on him.
I’d see James more in a Jamaal Charles type of way from 2 years ago, when Thomas Jones (played by Blount) wore down the defense for awhile before Charles (played by James) comes in and gashes the defense for a big gain.
Exactly
Being from Michigan, I completely agree about Best and… well.. everything else!
by Let's do this! on Feb 1, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
How does mark fix this problem
Draft richardson point blank.
by keysersoze19 on Feb 1, 2012 8:23 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Running Back
Cosign! Draft Richardson have a two back system and be done with it.
Lets get back allen bradford and use him at linebacker hahahaha
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICHARDSON TRAIN!!!
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