Daily Bucs Links 1/30/12 - Hunting for Coordinators

by Sander on Jan 30, 2012 8:01 AM EST in Daily Bucs Links

Cardinals deny Bucs' Schiano permission to speak to assistant | TBO.com
Sucks.

Bucs' coach recruiting efforts hit a snag | tampabay.com & Tampa Bay Times
No McNulty for OC. Who do they turn to now, and who will be the Bucs' next DC? It could be Butch Davis.

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NFP Sunday Blitz | National Football Post
Always worth a read.

Schiano and LeGrand: A Bond That Can't Be Broken | Pewter Report
Good stuff. Won't help him win games, though.

Joseph Enjoys Busy 2012 Pro Bowl | Buccaneers.com
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The most important hire this off season is the OC.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 30, 2012 12:26 PM EST reply actions

Indeed.

But no one is left at the moment. I see a desperation hire in our future.

by gusjackson on Jan 30, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions

who was available that we lost out on?

by putupyourDUKES on Jan 30, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions

Mike Sherman for one...

and can’t even talk with McNulty. Josh McDaniels is another good one spoken for.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 30, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions

None of the coordinators the Bucs lost out on were a fit for the kind of offense Schiano wants to run

They’re all West Coast guys. Except for McDaniels, but I don’t think he would have come over anyway given the choice between Tampa and New England.

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by Sander on Jan 30, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions

Money talks...

so I guess you don’t know until you ask. We here should be used to rejection in that capacity anyway. Water off a ducks back…

by Cracker Ball on Jan 30, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions

Super Bowl rings or being the bottome of the NFC South

Let me think about this.

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by bucnut1 on Jan 30, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions

Money only talks so far. You want to have the pick of the litter for your next HC job or face obscurity even if you have moderate success.

by putupyourDUKES on Jan 30, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions

The Glazers did this to themselves...

with their very public “cheap out” over the last 3 seasons. There is absolutely no telling how many top HC candidates just laughed and hung up the phone. Will take a real commitment from them to turn this PR mess around.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 30, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions

I wouldn't want sherman or mcdaniels

by putupyourDUKES on Jan 30, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions

You should be pleased then...

because you can’t have them anyway.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 30, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions

Who do you want?

by gusjackson on Jan 30, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions

WR coach from arizona.

by putupyourDUKES on Jan 30, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions

Impossible... ARI said hell no to speaking with him

and why him anyway?

by Cracker Ball on Jan 30, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions

history with our new head coach, we know there won't be conflicts

and he has insight to arizonas passing game

by putupyourDUKES on Jan 30, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions

Does ARI have a prolific passing game?

In 2011, they ranked 17th (right behind us and Greg Olson). The year before that (2010) they ranked 31st out of 32.

Yeah, let’s hire him and his insight…

by Cracker Ball on Jan 30, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions

they did when they had a QB.

by putupyourDUKES on Jan 30, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions

Easy to have a prolific passing game with Kurt Warner and Larry Fitzgerald

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by Sander on Jan 30, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions

..And Boldin

and even Breaston was balling when Kurt was there..

Just goes to show that Players MIGHT be more important than staff.

by Titankillah on Jan 30, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions

isnt that the same for every coordinator

if they have a good QB they are most of the time successful

by mlowebucs on Jan 30, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions

depends if they know how to use their QB or not.

by putupyourDUKES on Jan 30, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions

I, for one, am glad McNulty is not coming here...

we can do better than that I hope. Thought Todd Haley was responsible for that awesome ARI passing game?

He was the ARI OC for 2007-2008… not McNutsweat

by Cracker Ball on Jan 30, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions

not impossible!

he can always appeal the rejection!

by fourthntwenty on Jan 30, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions

He could, but he'd lose any appeal/arbitration case

He can try to convince the team to let him go, but that’s it.

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by Sander on Jan 30, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions

Well alot

When you look at the coaching search as a whole.

by gusjackson on Jan 30, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions

I completely disagree. Who is off the table since we started this process that we had a chance at getting?

Give me names. Mike Sherman is garbage so don’t list that.

by putupyourDUKES on Jan 30, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions

Sherman is not a sexy pick...

but he is experienced and fundamentally sound. We could, and probably will, do worse.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 30, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions

maybe, maybe not

Putting together a coaching staff is difficult.

You can’t hire away from other teams normally. Zero chance of getting lateral movement too.

by putupyourDUKES on Jan 30, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions

Let's just see what Dom comes up with...

as it will be happening pretty soon.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 30, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions

yeah I agree, but I don't think the late hire was detrimental

by putupyourDUKES on Jan 30, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions

He is, but he doesn't fit what Schiano wants to do

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by Sander on Jan 30, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions

I can see them coming in with another left field name for OC

Maybe someone like Larry Coker if the Butch Davis deal goes down.

by Poundtherok on Jan 30, 2012 2:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I agree completely...

this hire possibly makes or breaks the Josh Freeman experiment. The new guy will have to undo whatever damage Greg Olson may have done and put Josh back on the right path. Ditto for the QB coach.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 30, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions

hue and butch

that is all

by watchoutBLo on Jan 30, 2012 12:52 PM EST reply actions

Do we really want him

A guy who job hopes. And a guy is pretty sneaky with the way he handles things. Then again it could have been a Raider thing. But do we really wanna take that chance.

by gusjackson on Jan 30, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions

Schiano will have to make it known that...

those types of back-stabbing shenanigans won’t fly here. Present it like that and let Hue Jackson make his choice then. He need a guy that can put up some points, and Hue Jackson certainly seemed capable of that out in OAK.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 30, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions

In all fairness

He had Palmer , who was getting stronger by each game.. The only significant thing he did in my mind was get Heyward-Beys mind right.

by Titankillah on Jan 30, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions

Anyone talking about Cam Cameron?

I’d like him for us. I see conflicting reports saying that the Ravens have hired Jim Caldwell from under the Steelers nose, and others saying Cameron is returning to the Ravens.

by Brooklyn Buc on Jan 30, 2012 1:18 PM EST reply actions

Not sure where he's heading. But I like a head coach with those "leadership" intangibles.

But I like a healthy dose of flexability and creativity in my coordinators.

by Brooklyn Buc on Jan 30, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions

Nope

He’s headed to Baltimore as QB coach. Cam Cameron isn’t available. And he sucks, anyway.

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by Sander on Jan 30, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah

Half of Baltimore wants him out.

by gusjackson on Jan 30, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions

all of batimore

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by dcbucsfan on Jan 30, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions

yes he does

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by dcbucsfan on Jan 30, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions

Why are we bugging ARI for a QB coach??

I don’t see the advantage of promoting an assistant coach into an OC.. where’s the playcalling/creation experience???

by Titankillah on Jan 30, 2012 2:02 PM EST reply actions

Skelton and Kolb sucked, so what has he done to improve their game (not much imo)

^sorry for double post

by Titankillah on Jan 30, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions

I actually like John Skelton...

probably more than I do Kolb.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 30, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions

Skelton is the favorite here in AZ

Alot of people are frustrated he didn’t get more playing time. Most the Card fans I talk to can care less for Kolb.

by BucfaninAZ on Jan 30, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions

because it's almost impossible to hire an OC away from another team where they are already a OC.

by putupyourDUKES on Jan 30, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions

Stop with your logic, it's too much.

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by jMagic09 on Jan 30, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions

just like to say to all the people who say this draft is loaded with CB

I went back to 2003 and every year there were double sometimes triple CB drafted over RB and that is because it is risky and you can find more starting pro bowl RB from 2nd round thru 7th round than CB . Forte, RIce, McCoy, Foster, MJD, to me the best RB.
So if we have a chance to draft a talented CB with our #5 pick, we should draft Claiborne and if we cant trade out and get more picks, we dont need Richardson what we need is a 3rd down back like LMJ or any one from the late rounds.
We need 6 starters to fill on defense alone.
4 on offense.
Then a featured RB

by mlowebucs on Jan 30, 2012 2:53 PM EST reply actions

actually its more cbs drafted than running backs because there are more of a need because you need two starters in that position.

corners and linebackers usually have the most people in the draft. and id rather chose from 10 good corners in the second rounds or less than to choose from maybe 4-5 good running backs in the second or less.

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by dcbucsfan on Jan 30, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions