Greg Schiano signed a five-year, $15 million contract per report
by Sander on Jan 27, 2012 10:14 AM EST
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PrintThe Tampa Bay Buccaneers signed brand new head coach Greg Schiano to a five-year deal worth slightly more than $15 million, according to the Newark Star-Ledger. While that represents a small raise from his $2.3 million per year deal at Rutgers, it doesn't come close to the $6 million per year reportedly offered to Chip Kelly. While this isn't a bottom-dwelling head coaching deal, it's not exactly rich, either.
That's to be expected when hiring someone with as low a profile as Schiano has. Spending a relatively low amount on a head coach could give the Bucs a chance to spend big on coordinators and other assistant coaches, if they're so inclined.
The fact that Schiano signed a five-year deal should help him lure those quality assistants to Tampa Bay. It's the kind of commitment the Bucs never made to Raheem Morris, and it should give prospective coaches a sense of security in their jobs. With a five-year deal it's highly unlikely Schiano gets anything less than three years to turn around the franchise.
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And it helps him that he is not following a productive coach.
If Shiano can go 8-8 or better it could be considered a good year. Heck, 7-9 is still progress. I’m hoping he can recruit coaches as well as he recruited players.
by flash_kiley on Jan 27, 2012 10:22 AM EST via Android app reply actions
With that small of a raise
I think it’s more likely Schiano jumped at the opportunity to escape the Big East than we sold him on Tampa Bay. I mean $700,000 is a lot of money, and over the course of those five years it adds up 3.5M more, but it comes with a ton more pressure.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
No state income tax either!
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
The assistants he/we are able to bring in...
will make or break his legacy here. We are an undisciplined mess here and the OC and DC choices are, at least, as important as our HC choice. Mike Sherman is pissed and looks to be going to MIA. Childress looks to be going to CLE.
That basically leaves us Hue Jackson and Todd Haley as the experienced OC choices. As for the DC slot, we are in some trouble there. Don’t know what to say. Hope we can give some consideration to Jim Tomsula (SF DL coach), Jim Washburn (PHI DL coach) or Bill Kollar (HOU DL coach). They have been around some great DL play lately and could help us here.
Assuming all of those guys are under contract,
The teams could easily block any attempts at acquiring them. Which makes it impossible to sign them.
So you cannot leave to accept a higher-level position?
OC candidates Hue Jackson and Todd Haley are out there, currently free of any contractural emcumberances. The others – simply seek permission to talk. No harm in that.
There isn’t much out there DC wise, so that hurts us for waiting so long.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 27, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Not unless it is HC apparently.
The Packers have stopped Clements from interviewing for OC jobs according to Sander.
Yep
The NFL only distinguishes two tiers of coaches: head coaches and assistant coaches. Moving from QB coach to offensive coordinator isn’t seen as a promotion in that framework.
You can always request permission to talk
Teams can allow coaches to leave, but they can also block them.
Don't think it will matter anyways.
The Buccaneers have asked for permission to interview Cardinals WRs coach John McNulty, ostensibly for their offensive coordinator position.
New coach Greg Schiano was hired for “what he is defensively,” explained GM Mark Dominik. Schiano is now turning to McNulty, Rutgers coordinator and QBs coach from 2004-2008, to head up the offense. McNulty is under contract. The Cardinals can deny him from interviewing in Tampa, though Ken Whisenhunt isn’t expected to stand in the way of an obvious promotion.
Related: Cardinals
Source: St. Petersburg Times Jan 27 – 11:40 AM
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
I'm pretty sure that asking for permission deal is still a misunderstanding
Kent Somers only said that he expected the Bucs to come knocking. That’s it. Stroud then said that Somers was reporting the Bucs asked for permission, and then everyone ran with it.
I see. Nonetheless, if they want McNulty as OC, I think they could get him.
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
For what I just saw on google
We have already asked for permission to speak to Arizona Cardinals WR Coach John McNulty who before joining arizona was Rutgers OC…
by DrummaBoi561 on Jan 27, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Not true
Rick Stroud misconstrued a report of Kent Somers, who only expected the Bucs to call, never reported they actually did.
Dead on
If the OC and DC are not good, we run a big risk IMO of having a Bobby Petrino on our hands.
Hue Jackson
was Petrino’s offensive coordinator in Atlanta… Ouch!
^Totally forgot about that one^
by InfamousHp on Jan 27, 2012 1:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Todd Haley all day!!!
I wanna see him groom our WRs & our offense into something like he had at Arizona. He’s also a disciplinarian, which fits our new coach’s mindset. Haley on the staff will allow Schiano to put a little more focus on the defense (Since he’s defensive minded).
by InfamousHp on Jan 27, 2012 1:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
True but you can't argue with results
Since 2004 he’s been successful. Did his thing as a WR coach in Dallas, we know his success in Arizona, & his was nice in Kansas (Until half his team went on IR this yr).
by InfamousHp on Jan 27, 2012 1:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Josh McDaniels is also a d*ck - but a great offensive mind.
Sometimes whiney-b*tt players that don’t like discipline, or to be disciplined, will call someonethat kakes them follow rules a dick. Doesn’t necessarily make it so…
by Cracker Ball on Jan 27, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Did you just disguise the word "butt,"
and then write out the word “dick” in the same sentence?
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
Yeah - I totally did.
That last one got by me… Ha
by Cracker Ball on Jan 27, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
McDaniels videotaped in Denver and won't get another Head Coaching
job unless its from a desperate owner. The Patriots effectively videotaped opponents and their signs until they were caught. They won a lot of close games in those early Brady years. The Giants should be able to beat the Pats in the SB again.
Total dick
We don’t need that with a new head coach.
by BrooklynBucsFan on Jan 27, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I am starting to wonder if
the Glazers signed Schiano because he was cheaper than some of the other coach’s.
Chip Kelly mabey wanted more money than the Glazers wanted…..
If that were the case, the entire week leading up to Chip Kelly about to sign his contract would have never have happened.
He would have not told people at Oregon he was leaving unless they agreed to figures like that. The guy just backed out right as he was about to sign, that’s it.
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
I will get behind this coach but,
I would not of hired him. I was hoping for Marty, but I can understand if they wanted someone younger. If they wanted a younger coach, why not hire Chud? Chud seems like he would have been a better choice. Can Sander or Cracker Ball or anybody please explain this too me?
by Mattw313 on Jan 27, 2012 1:34 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Chud has no head coaching experience
Mostly, I’m guessing Schiano just made a much bigger personal impression than Chud did.
Even without head coaching experience,
I think Chud would be less of a risk with the same amount of reward. I’m not saying Shiano (not sure if thats how you spell it) won’t work out, but I would of liked chud better.
by Mattw313 on Jan 27, 2012 2:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm not a fan of defensive head coaches either, but the experience really means something to me too.
I mean the guy went to a horrible school in a horrible conference and succeeded. I can’t argue with that. No other team ran out and hired Chud, he wasn’t the sexy pick (Chip Kelly was).
My only real concern is we’re gonna end up looking like a Big 10 (or is it 12 now?) team. I don’t like the run, run, run, and run some more schemes. If we do that, there’s no way we can compete in our own division.
"Put a jersey on!!!" Warren Sapp
In his press conferences he talked about being aggressive and taking shots down the field
And I saw plenty of that when looking at his offense last year, really.
If memory serves
that is the exact same thing that Jagodzinski said. Just sayin’
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Just heard a rumor
Haley’s meeting with Arizona, trying to leverage his way back on the staff. If they bring Haley back, more than likely they’ll let McNulty walk (Who was Schiano’s OC at Rutgers). But I personally would like Haley better, Rutgers’ offense sucked in The Big East.
by InfamousHp on Jan 27, 2012 1:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Take shots down the field.
He said that multiple times during his speech. Play good defense. Take shots down the field. Love it! I’m excited to see what this team brings 2012
Gotta give the man credit, he can talk a good game.
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
didnt watch, please sum up
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 27, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, so did raheem. and we know how that tured out.
by frostphoenix on Jan 27, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
sounds like he knows what he is doing
still he’s going to need quality assistants around him, and I’m not sure who is even out there
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 27, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
What about a DC?
Any chance the Bucs go after Jim Leavitt as defensive coordinator? Not sure of Schiano and Leavitt’s relationship but I think it could be a good fit
by Longorious on Jan 27, 2012 2:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I heard that he is in talks with Tressel to be his DC/assistant HC
Plus if he fails we have a great option to step right in!
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 27, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
my point is sander, it that talk is cheap. period.
I’m tempted to sell off 25 years worth of Bucs merchandize, because the reality is this: we’re doing the raheem thing all over again. inexperienced Hc, posiibly 2nd 3rd tier coordinators and ahell of a lot of uncertainty in our draft, and possibly NO free agent help.
not to metion poor ownership/ front office action inaction.
i’m not feeling Schiano, period.
I’ve seen his Rugters teams in aotherwise horrid big east. I’m not convinced
Curious, who did you want as HC?
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
My choice:-
Zimmer, expeienced as a Cd, respected by players , not just benglas player, either. connected, could have brough an expeieced Oc with him.
by frostphoenix on Jan 27, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I would have been more upset if it was a retread
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 27, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think this is comparable to Raheem at all
And you can’t really say anything about the quality of the assistants before they’ve even been hired.
Schiano has 11 years of head coaching experience. He’s been in charge of a program. He has a very different demeanor from Raheem Morris and a very different message.
sander, i can because i've watched them here, being in big east country.
you might not like mt stance, but i do not talk from both sides of my rear. i’m telling you this as a direct prediction:
unless we hire savvy assistant couches, he will be gone back to college in 3 years. tops.
i believe i can, it might sound arrogant, but that's how i feel
i’m looking at this year rutger team that was 9-4..on rivals.
few disturbing trends:
no 1000 yd running back (897 yds)
1 1000 yd reciver, but the next closest was only 557? that won’t play in the NFL.
i’m curious what the tackling / sacks stats were not listed.
by frostphoenix on Jan 27, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I believe he had a very strong defense last year, but I could be mistaken
Anyway, the play was never stellar at Rutgers, but that doesn’t really reflect on his coaching staff in Tampa Bay. He won’t be alone in making these hires.
and you still trust Dominik, sander?
cause i have NO faith in him after letting raheem take the axe, he should’ve manned up and taked the sword too.
by frostphoenix on Jan 27, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
ok, at long as we understand each then.
by frostphoenix on Jan 27, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
When exactly is the last time...
outside of Samurai land, that somebody fell on a sword when they didn’t have to? Dom is all about self-preservation and pushed Rah under the bus.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 27, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
I love couches..but is an assistant couch like a love seat?
by RuudAwakening on Jan 27, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
cause they apt to be disposed of when they used up.
by frostphoenix on Jan 27, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
The couch or the love seat?
or was it a chase lounge…..
by RuudAwakening on Jan 27, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
coulve've been a futon..
you know how popular those are.
by frostphoenix on Jan 27, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Only if you're in college...
and your TV is sitting on cinder blocks. Nobody loves futons.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 27, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
OK... one guy loves his futon
but you didn’t really say that.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 27, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
one guy loves his futon OR one guy makes love to his futon?
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 27, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
This has taken an ugly turn...
so well played BucFaninIowa!
by Cracker Ball on Jan 27, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Well we could talk about claiborne vs. richardson, been there done that,
or we could talk about assistant coaches, there are no clear cut candidates as of yet , or we could talk about making love to home furnishings, take your pick.
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 27, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't, they are hard and uncomforable.
Have no choice atm, at the tail end of a divorce and renting a room like I’m back in college….
Not being pessimistic,
But I hope all these things he is talking about he can back up. Throwing downfield, power running, discipline, accountability. All things we sorely lacked last year. Hopefully these are actually his plans, not just wooing the media by saying he will fix all that was broken.
by flash_kiley on Jan 27, 2012 2:41 PM EST via Android app reply actions
agreed, Kiley
that was why i stated, he talks a good game, but we just went thru 3 years of that.
by frostphoenix on Jan 27, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Glazers just don't care about this team. If you were gonna hire this guy do it right away so you can get some quality assistants
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 27, 2012 3:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
was reading on the rutger wins and loses, yeah, i'm nervous..i remember the Ot wins over Syracuse..but it was Syracuse..there were no reason to even be forced to go into overtime against them.
and just edging out navy? *sighs8 officially calling my pre draft record for next season (5 -11) and i’m sticking to this too.
Yes, because Nick Saban's success at the college level
clearly translated to the NFL…can’t take the records he had at Rutgers. They help, but aren’t valid examples.
by flash_kiley on Jan 27, 2012 3:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Another one bites the dust.
Childress has been named OC of the Cleaved Browns. Tampa needs to hurry this sh*t up before every worth a damn gets hired elsewhere.
by InfamousHp on Jan 27, 2012 3:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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