ESPN: Buccaneers to hire Greg Schiano as head coach, finalizing contract
According to ESPN (and as earlier reported by 620 WDAE), the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are trying to hire Rutgers head coach Greg Schiano as their next head coach. The two sides are finalizing a contract, which means it's not done yet, but it's close. Which is exactly where the Bucs stood with Chip Kelly before he pulled out, so don't take this as meaning the deal is done.
If the two sides do come to an agreement and Schiano does not have a change of heart, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will have pulled off yet another surprise move. They have interviewed multiple former NFL head coaches and current NFL coordinators over the past weeks, but the only coaches they have actually tried to hire were from college: Chip Kelly and Greg Schiano.
Further reinforcing the fact that the Bucs and Schiano are close to a deal is another ESPN report that Mike Sherman is in Miami to become the Dolphins' offensive coordinator, which indicates that he does not believe he will get the head coaching job in Tampa Bay.
Greg Schiano is a defensive-minded coach who has managed to rebuild and resurrect a failing Rutgers program over the past decade. He has a few years of experience coaching in the NFL, and has been endorsed heavily by Peter King this offseason, who noted that Bill Belichick thinks the world of him. In fact, Peter King now reports that the Bucs aren't the first team to try to hire Schiano. According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the St. Louis Rams spoke to him as well.
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I love this hire,
he has done lots without much talent at rutgers, and Bill Belichick speaks very high of him……
After the Chip Kelly fiasco....
Let me know when the deal is actually DONE.
I'm disappointed; really wanted Chud.
A woman who knows her sports.
by Bucs-RaysChick on Jan 26, 2012 10:38 AM EST reply actions
Dare I say you and I agree on something?
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
But if it's "Rah Part 2" how can you be glad about it?
A woman who knows her sports.
by Bucs-RaysChick on Jan 26, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
He's talking about CHud being Rah part 2
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Yes, that is what I'm saying.
Too many unknowns with Chud, although IMO more qualified than Rah, I just fear same outcome.
"Put a jersey on!!!" Warren Sapp
And the most big "unknown" with Schiano
He’s had 2 years’ experience in the NFL. That’s it. At least Chud’s been around the league for awhile. I just don’t see this working out.
A woman who knows her sports.
by Bucs-RaysChick on Jan 26, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
He's a head coach, not only a head coach, but he turned around a very bad team.
If Chud wasn’t such a risk, somebody would have hired him.
"Put a jersey on!!!" Warren Sapp
Blasphemy!
Even if he is a great HC, what kind of staff could this guy possibly assemble?
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
He has Belichick ties. Could prove useful.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Just don't like the lack of high-level coaching experience...
and his ability to attract a quality staff while simultaneously being handcuffed by the Glazers (money) and Mark Dominik (stupidity).
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Lets see what deal he gets. If its less than 6MM, remember Glazers are free from Rah $ and Gruden $ now.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
That is not where the money needs to be spent...
making 3 or 4 signings in the upcoming F/A market is. Need that many new starters in place BEFORE we head into the draft.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
We need it both places. Need a good OC and a decent DC (Schiano's D background will help).
Free Agency is a must but we cant talka bout players until we see scheme.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
SIGH
I’m quite sure just by mentioning his name there will be a log jam of quality assistant coaches just dying for a chance to work with,,uhh work with,,MMnn ,,,,Now WHAT was his name again ?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
This can’t be happening…we’re about to lose our best recruiting class ever.
And, to be honest, I think he will be crap for the Bucs. his best strength as a coach is his recruiting. he can’t x and o his way out of a paper bag.
Double booo!!!
by ChrisSimmsSpleen on Jan 26, 2012 10:40 AM EST reply actions
Congrats guys
I know this isn’t worth much from another team’s fan, but I’m glad Tampa has decided to stick with a defensive HC. It helps balance the divison and hopefully you can bring your stout defense back to form, as I find it the most fun to watch out of rivalries. Shootouts are the most boring thing to watch ever and the reliance on “speed and takeaways” like the Saints and Colts pathetic excuse of defenses make me sick. I most enjoyed our Panthers-Bucs games when we both had solid defenses in the mid 2k’s. Here’s to hoping we see more of that in the coming decade.
omg
i just stated thts somthing we shud not be doing when every team in our div are ptun up major points and u hve to hve a good offense to combat tht we need to stop living in the past we got blowed the fuck out by a rookie QB 2x almost 50 points thts was embarasing and carolina dont even hve a great D we need to mke bold moves in free agent and draft
I am going to politely ask you to please proofread your posts and type in a somewhat readable fashion.
Also, “shud” is not a word.
Also no cursing.
Also “ptun” is not a word.
That is all for now.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
by Buc Wild on Jan 26, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Will depend on coordinators brought in.
HC is a delegator, overseer, coordinators make big difference.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Hue, Sherman, Chilly, etc
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Plenty of options. Can promote ST coaches, can go to retired guys, out of league guys etc.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Sander Sander Sander .................
Did i not tell you this guy.
Chop that wood lay that wood in tampa babe defensive mind
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 26, 2012 10:47 AM EST reply actions
haha wait til draft time when he creates his boards of who we should draft
which will feature us getting first rounders all throughout all seven rounds. And he’l do a similar free agent model.
Good luck Rah. Bring us Mo Claiborne and replace Geno, Quincy, and Sean Jones!
My head is swimming...
The Glazers have another puppet coach – and Dom lives to fight on. Ugh.
Double Ugh.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
That's what this guy is, a puppet
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 26, 2012 10:55 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Doms puppet, watch we won't spend a dime in free agency either
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm gonna take a wild guess
and say this is based off of 0 facts whatsoever.
No kidding
“Hey I don’t know this guy, he must be a puppet of Dominik!”
Never mind the fact that the Glazers are the ones at the head of this coaching search.
Exactly! The glazers are doing this coaching search
That’s how we should of known wed be screwed from the beginning
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 26, 2012 11:03 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
How much power are they really going to give this guy.
If Dom continues handle all personnel issues AND the draft, what would you call Schiano? Historically (based on this particular franchise and all of its most recent decisions) I feel this is more of an educated guess.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I'd call him a head coach
Giving head coaches control of personnel is a terrible way of doing business.
by Sander on Jan 26, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And giving it to Dom isnt?
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 26, 2012 11:08 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
THAT depends on your GM - does it not?
Dom is Rain Man without the ability to count cards.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Really?
Franchise QB—-check
Franchise RB—-check (this notion that Blount can’t catch passes is ludicrous).
Solid FB drafted for next to nothing—-check
Solid WR, up & coming 2-3-4 (Benn, Briscoe, Parker)—-check.
very solid line—-check
d-line oozing with potential…& yes, oozing with gauze from all the injuries—-check
LBs questionable. Black & Foster get another year to fulfill their potential with professional coaches, while Watson hopefully finally gets a chance.
secondary—-franchise CB, SS drafted in the 7th round (I think Grimm moves there next year), fine FS, #1 draft pick @ the other corner (Claiborne, hopefully). I just don’t see this team as weak or untalented…I saw an empty cupboard when GruAllen left, & a TERRIBLY coached team last year (Rah nor Olsen will ever get a chance to be coordinators again). Again , Crack, your “solutions”? The NFL is now hiring the next wave of GMs & HCs (of which, I think Dom & Schiano are part), & there’s only one Belichick.
this wasn't my comment...
it got eliminated. fun.
Yup - really really
I consider Dom a bean-counter yes man and a marginal draft guru. Too many projects and maybe tries to get cute with this process. Take the solid horses and quit digging through other peoples garbage.
QB – one good year and one crappy year does not equal “Franchise QB”. I like Freeman, but honestly the jury is still out.
RB – Blount. That is it. Everybody else here is slightly less than a non-factor.
WR – One good year, one bad year (Williams) one INC with an injury history (Benn) and a bunch of maybes. We are still looking for that big-play game breaker.
OL – Penn and Joseph. They were both pre-Dom and the remainder are all very suspect. Faine is made of blown glass, and Trueblood is a turnstile. Zuttah is a definite maybe.
DL - The talent core of this team. All four should be good individually and possibly great together. McCoy and Price do have some injury issues, but Clayborn and Bowers look to be the real deal. Build upon this strength.
LB – Major talent injection needed here. Foster was a rookie, but outplayed both Quincy Black (year 5) and Geno Hayes (year 4). Those two are now likely as good as they will ever be – and not nearly good enough.
DB – Aqib Talib is a good, not great, CB. But still has this legal black cloud over him. We need 1 starter for sure – 2 if Talib is found guilty. The rest of the CBs are back-up or special teams fodder only. The S position is trickier. T-Jack WAS a great FS, but his drug issues and poor play in 2011 leave me rightfully concerned. I don’t like anybody else here. Each one has too big of a hole in their game.
My solutions you ask? Sign 3 to 4 F/As for the DEF (since money SHOULD be no object). Let’s say LB D’Quell Jackson, SS Dashon Goldson and CB Cortland Finnegan.
On the offense, maybe sign RB Tim Hightower and OT Demetrius Bell. 5 spots solved through Free Agency.
Draft CB Morris Claiborne, OG Kelechi Osemele, OLB Ronnell Lewis, WR Tommie Streeter, RB Isaiah Pead and QB Kellen Moore.
Your move…
by Cracker Ball on Jan 29, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
We cant change the owners and Dom is entrenched.
We have to hope they see the pitfalls of their previous strategy and change. That will not be a reflection of Schiano.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
This guy doesn't deserve a head coaching job
The fact that six or seven coaches have told the glazers to stick it tells me that they had to go “reach” for a coach who will be stoked to coach at this level and probably won’t care if were active in free agency or not
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
One coach decided to stay at his current job
where he is basically viewed as a god and makes a ton of money. Most who knew Kelly were shocked to hear he was leaving. Stop making massive exaggerations to push a point.
by J_B on Jan 26, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I read a report that said the Bucs were turned down by like 5 or 6 coaches.
Fisher, Phillips, Philbin (didn’t come for second interview), and Kelly. That would make four right there, they probably were turned down by at least a few others.
Good luck Rah. Bring us Mo Claiborne and replace Geno, Quincy, and Sean Jones!
2 is a lot different than 7...
Wade knew he wasn’t getting the job, so he pulled out. Philbin knew he was getting the Dolphin job so he pulled out. Kelly is a god @ a place that reveres football—-unless he gets the Cowboys or 49ers job, NOW, he’s not leaving. & Jeff Fisher is the definition of mediocrity, & yet, now has full personnel control of an organization. Bucs got their 2nd choice, & their 1st choice (Kelly) proved to be wishy-washy & disrespectful to the process. No thank you.
My gut tells me there were several conversations that went something like this:
Dominik – “Hello, is this _______? We would like to talk to you about our vacant Head Coaching position”
Candidate – “Will you remain in your current capacity in Tampa?”
Dominik – “Yes… yes I will”
Candidate – “*cough… ”
by Cracker Ball on Jan 29, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Remember This ................
Greg Schiano / Rutgers – Him In Kelly Are Good Friends , Schiano Didnt Jump At The Penn St Job In Rutgers Isnt Making Any Noise It Could Be Very Legit .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 26, 2012 10:52 AM EST reply actions
There's really no way to know whether this is a good or bad hire
ATM. Only time will tell. It’s definitely a very risky hire — high risk high reward. He could either be great, or could be awful.
Why?
Why could he be either great or awful? Couldn’t he just be mediocre too?
by Jack Spratt on Jan 26, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
well,
in my opinion, the Bucs could have resurrected Vince F’n Lombardi to be the coach and the team would still only win 4-8 games. Just too many holes to win big anytime soon. The ownership has really let the community down. Also, that 10-6 record a few years ago when we still missed the playoffs…probably the worst thing because it gave them a false sense that they could run the team cheaply and still win.
^ This ^
We cannot outsmart other teams and find the “diamond in the rough” players, unless Dom was just holding back and will really apply himself now.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
He just seems like a boom or bust pick.
I just don’t see him going 8-8 every year. He’s either going to excel, or fail at making a proper transition to the NFL. Most college coaches are the boom or bust type mold as well.
Good Grief
If the Bucs tried to generate the least possible excitement among the fans with the new HC they couldn’t have done better than this. Schiano has virtually no meaningful NFL experience (one year as defensive backfield coach with the Bears, two years as an “assistant,” at what we don’t know). He’s the HC at a minor program and hasn’t even done all that well with it. In 11 years at Rutgers he’s only had one season when he didn’t lose at least four games. Of all the candidates out there, the Bucs have chosen the worst one. But hey, I bet he cost a lot less than any of the real NFL coaches.
yep, he was another coach on the cheap.
….thanks Brian and Joel Glazer. At least their dad was cool…(in an amish nerd looking way)
Yeah, the $6M they offered Chip Kelly is a good indication of how cheap they are
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
No. Unless Kelly or the front office comes right out and says it
then it never will be. I would estimate it had to be considerably larger than the 2.8M that Kelly is making at Oregon though, else why would he even consider leaving?
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
What Are You Guys Talking About ........
This guy is a good coach .
He has a great defensive mind .
Players respect him & run threw walls for him .
He is a disciplinarian .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 26, 2012 10:58 AM EST reply actions
I believe it is stated in the rules of the website that you and I cannot agree on any item.
I will change my opinion accordingly.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
If he's such a good coach
how come he’s lost four or more games in every one of his 11 seasons at Rutgers except one?
by Jack Spratt on Jan 26, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
yep,
he did a good job recruiting players out of Florida (specifically the Tampa area). We know he is a good recruiter…
Will he translate to the NFL? Time will tell, but as a long time Bucs fan…and living through a failed experiment…its sucks to start a new one. I’d rather get a proven winner at the NFL level.
That's my biggest question
I’m impressed with what he did at Rutgers, but the question is whether that was recruiting, or head coaching.
He knows defense. Offense I have no idea but I think he will greatly help our defense.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Not just defense but offense as well.
Please no more HC/DC again.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICHARDSON TRAIN!!!
It wasn't recruiting
Rutgers has never gotten the top recruits. They don’t get guys to choose RU over any of the big football schools. The guy is a great talent evaluator and manages to get guys that other schools don’t go after.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
there are 100s of good HS football players in Florida....
…the best of the best usually go to Florida, FSU, Miami…etc. But there are limits…so Schiano did a good job of getting the “leftovers” in Florida. The thing is…the “leftovers” in Florida are still better than 90% of the players in the Northeast…etc. So he was a good recruiter that started recruiting away from New Jersey and the north…and it worked for them. He had talent.
Yeah, but
in the NFL they have this thing called the draft, so recruiting ability isn’t an important talent.
by Jack Spratt on Jan 26, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
He's not a recruiter.
He’s a great talent evaluator. He managed to find the guys that other schools didn’t see as being good. Ray Rice, Kenny Britt, Devin McCorty, Brian Leonard, Anthony Davis… All of them were ignored, yet Schiano saw something in them and they all turned out to be great.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
It's impossible to know who will be great out of high school. There are plenty of diamonds to be found that aren't 5* recruits.
Calvin Johnson was a 4*, Sam Bradford 3*, at 17 years old people’s bodies change and etc.
Good luck Rah. Bring us Mo Claiborne and replace Geno, Quincy, and Sean Jones!
Sander Some Of These Guys Dont Watch Or Know Enough Football
They need to do there homework in stop watching espn .
All they know is the coaches they see on tv .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 26, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Kind of condecending aren't we RIP?
Because we don’t like the choice, and you do, doesn’t mean you are wiser in any way. If I recall, you were drinking the Rah Kool-Aid quite a bit.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't like kelly either
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 26, 2012 11:14 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Bwahahahaha
We Should Totally Take Your Opinion Seriously.
Good luck Rah. Bring us Mo Claiborne and replace Geno, Quincy, and Sean Jones!
Nor do they draw top talent. Chicken-egg
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
He was the coach at Rutgers
Rutgers played in the first ever college football game, and prior to Schiano getting there, they appeared in exactly 1 bowl game, and lost. The program was a complete joke. As someone who graduated from RU in 2001, i can tell you, during my time there our biggest win was against Syracuse, and we didn’t have enough people show up to the game to tear down the goal posts. Schiano took a pile of total crap and turned it into a decent football program. He even managed to get them to the verge of competing for a national title with Ray Rice and Brian Leonard. What he did at Rutgers was incredible, and if he can have half the turnaround he did at RU with Tampa, you guys are going to be in great shape.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
Flipping Rutgers and flipping the Buccaneers is not the same thing...
We are in serious trouble here talent-wise, plus you arer hamstrung by tightwad ownera and a semi-functional GM.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
I hope they dont think he's the next coming of Jim Hargbaugh.
Im not liking this at all really.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICHARDSON TRAIN!!!
He is completely different than Harbaugh, no one should draw that comparison
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
I know we shouldnt. But maybe the Glazers did.
College coach could turn the franchise around like Harbaugh did. Except he at least had some buzz. I have heard nothing about this guy before.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICHARDSON TRAIN!!!
maybe true, but ive never heard of any big buzz about him. like this is from left field.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICHARDSON TRAIN!!!
When you have to announce this.
Then people are asking for you.
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2012/01/rutgers_greg_schiano_has_no_in.html
well not true.
i think peter king just put the idea out there and reporters started asking him and he said no. It did said no NFL team contacted him.
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICHARDSON TRAIN!!!
Your owners can't be tight wads for long
The new CBA requires a minimum spend per team. So even if they want to be cheap, they can’t.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
The new CBA only requires that minimum spend from 2013 onwards
And that minimum spend will be accounted for as a four-year average, so it’s not even that strict, either.
I think it's 90% of the cap.
So if they max out, one year, they would need to do a minimum of about 87% for the next 3. This is the last year they can try to be cheap, and then they have to spend.
Schiano will find some scrap heap players, making garbage money on other teams and turn them into gems. That’s his biggest skill
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
I hope so - because the Dom trash-digging will likely continue
They likely didn’t hire a big name experienced HC because he would want too much control over personnel, etc. They found a guy they probably think is just happy to be here.
He already has 2 strikes against him – tightwad owners and a lame GM.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
is the GM lame because of his own choice, or because the owners won't let him spend?
His draft picks have all been decent.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 26, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I think a little of both...
Dom rewarded Quincy Black, Michael Clayton and Jeremy Trueblood with new contracts instead of cutting them. As for his draft picks, the more time that goes by, the weaker and weaker his drafts begin to look.
That was ALL Dom…
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Dominik said he was allowed to spend
Good luck Rah. Bring us Mo Claiborne and replace Geno, Quincy, and Sean Jones!
yeah go ahead and believe that.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 26, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Good news and bad news
The NFL will no longer let owners be tightwads. New CBA made sure of that.
The lame GM is another issue. Hopefully he’ll be able to recognize Schiano’s ability to eye talent and give him the personnel decisions.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
totally agree
I am very pleased if this turns out to happen. He will run this team the right way. Aquib may need to start packing now.
And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice."
by dryroastedsean on Jan 26, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah b/c losing your best player on defense sure is a great way to improve.
Good luck Rah. Bring us Mo Claiborne and replace Geno, Quincy, and Sean Jones!
What a joke
Rutgers? At least bring someone on from a big time program. They could have hired a local high school coach and I would have been more excited about it than this guy.
Ohhhhhhhhh yeahhh!
Half Of Yall Dont Watch Or Understand Football ...........
If you dont know about him how you knock him ?
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 AM EST reply actions
We know him
Rutgers head coach, see my point
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 26, 2012 11:05 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Quit randomly capitalizing words
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
We shall see
I will reserve judgment in the moment. We better hire NFL experienced coordinators that know the X’s and O’s in the NFL. I don’t know enough about Schiano. Maybe he is a great leader. That is a HUGE plus if that’s the case. I like a defensive mind coach. But high level strategic thinking in NFL is different than college. Please GOD bring us in some solid coordinators with NFL experience, please. Then I promise to be a Bucs supporter again. I like out of the box.. I like being surprised a bit. Just bring me done wins so I can start feeling good on Sundays again.
by gmaz1 on Jan 26, 2012 11:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions
best statement thus far
bq.I will reserve judgment in the moment.
The truth is…none of us know how this will turn out. I can only say, I was hoping for something that wasn’t another experiment.
Good luck Coach Schiano. I’m behind you.
Look At His Record
28-48 conference record in the worst of the BCS conferences. 68-67 overall. Those are two reasons I knock him. A third is that he has no significant NFL experience. A fourth is that I can see not one single reason why he should make a jump from HC of a minor league team with a mediocre record in a minor league conference except that he probably cost a lot less than real NFL coaches like Schottenheimer et al.
by Jack Spratt on Jan 26, 2012 11:07 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Jesus christ
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
i will say this is not a splash signing so i am a little taken back by this.
It seems a little Raheemish dare I say. Another experiment and its a little disappointing that they didnt learn. I HOPE this guy pans out and can get us to at least be a decent football team, but its hard to make a case for him that he will. Ugggghhhhh
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICHARDSON TRAIN!!!
Trivia Question .........
What coached groomed ray rice into the nice player he is ?
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 26, 2012 11:19 AM EST reply actions
I Got The Perception That Half Of Yall ............
Only watch college & nfl football when its a big game .
Yall dont watch football just for the love of it or to see who is that next coach/player stud .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 26, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
The same one that groomed Kenny Britt
Who was leading the NFL in receiving yards before getting injured.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
As Well As The ...............
McCourtey’s
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 26, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
The guys eye for talent is unreal.
Imagine what he can do when he actually gets to pick the best guy on the board instead of the guy that nobody else wants.
I really hope he turns you guys down and stays at Rutgers.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
68-67 in the Big Least, solid
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
by Doug09 on Jan 26, 2012 11:22 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Who cares? Not every great college coach is NFL material, not every bad coach in NCAA is bad news for NFL
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Just because good college coaches don't work in the NFL doesn't mean the bad ones automatically will.
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
So you mean it's trial and error or assessing a background and making a choice?
This will never be a popular hire, but so what? Attack him for being conservative, not for an irrelevant NCAA record.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Would you rather have had Chip or Greg, just curious.
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
Personally I'll take Schiano.
Led adaptation needed, probably cheaper, has had success on D.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
like the Ravens?
who will never get back to the superbowl until they become a pass first team?
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 26, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Why discard Ray Rice and the foundation?
New Orleans pass first philosophy worked well didnt it
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Worked for Eli and Tom.
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
While defense worked for Pats, Bucs, Ravens, Steelers twice etc.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 26, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Saints/Packers/COlts all won when their D was playing well. Havent been back with piss poor D
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Packers are still defending Superbowl champs
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
Seriously ???
Not even Packers fans are making that statement.
What are they defending
They will be sitting on the couch like the rest of us watching the super bowl. They are the current super bowl champs until the next one is announced but they arent defending anything.
And they won when their D was phenomenal.
This year, piss poor D, no SB repeat
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
There's really no point in arguing with them
they’ll just argue their point into the ground even if it goes against all reasonable logic and stats.
They won a super bowl with it. Unlike teams that rely on the run.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 26, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Their defense was much better and they werent as pass happy.
They played a pass first Indy team who lost.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
You make it sound like they weren't even close.
They were a drop away.
Not being there one game away is the same as not being there 16 games away.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 26, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
There are really only 3 teams
That don’t threaten with the run. New England. The Packers. New Orleans. 3 out of 32 and only 1 in the super bowl.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 26, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Giants got there with a bit of everything, not only passing.
They got big plays out of their passing game, ran the ball when they could, and had their defense playing.
The Saints were 3rd in the league in rushing
You might wanna check the actual stats before you make statements.
But it's there
and you can’t simply throw it out. Being able to run the ball opens up the passing game, and vice versa. Doing both well creates a matchup nightmare. Even the Packers ran the ball effectively last post season when the won the Superbowl. This year they didn’t and they lost their only playoff game.
Of course not
When you play baltimore your first proity is stop ray rice. When you play NO the focus is stopping drew brees. Forgetting the running game would be foolish.
All I'm saying is
When your playing the teams I mentioned. You gameplan for their strengths. Not that they cant do other things.
The Ravens were a dropped pass in the endzone from being in the superbowl
stop acting like they got annihilated and their philosophy is an epic fail.
did they even try and run the ball in the afc championship game, or did they realize they had to pass the ball?
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 26, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
No
New England’s gameplan was simple. STOP RAY RICE. He killed them the last time they place. Of course he was the number one priority
look how easy it is to stop the run vs the pass
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 26, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
you know the Pats won without throwing a TD pass?
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
Uh
When you put 8 guys in the box, 1 of which is Vince Wilfork, you generally will have success stopping the run. It’s a simply numbers game at that point.
Vince Wilfork NT for the Pats...
Good luck Rah. Bring us Mo Claiborne and replace Geno, Quincy, and Sean Jones!
we dont have anyone named vince on our roster
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 26, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, they did try to run the ball, and NE based their
entire game plan around stopping Ray Rice. If Lee Evans didn’t have butter fingers your entire theory would be irrelevant right now.
True, but
you improve the odds immensely by going with someone who has a proven track record of success in the NFL or at least in a major college program. The Bucs could hardly have made a choice that is calculated to be a greater risk than this one.
by Jack Spratt on Jan 26, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He does have a track record of success
take a look at Rutgers record before he arrived. You can’t expect a head coach to turn Rutgers into a school that can legitimately compete with the SEC when the school spends very little on recruiting.
He has a track record of mediocrity.
68-67. One game above .500. No conference championships.
Ohhhhhhhhh yeahhh!
by The_Macho_Man on Jan 26, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
So hire Nick Saban, he has a good track record, right?
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
It was actually more like... Horrible for 140 years.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
Ok In This Era Ask Your Self ..........
If a coach isnt good or great would he coach at a school from 2001-2012 even with that record ?
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Jan 26, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Mike Sherman and Marty are looking pretty damn good to me right now.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 26, 2012 11:26 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Marty would have been a solid choice.
No to Sherman.
I liked Marty but not Sherman
Good luck Rah. Bring us Mo Claiborne and replace Geno, Quincy, and Sean Jones!
I'm pretty sick of defensive coaches. Living in the past will get you no where.
Can’t wait for this guy to fail because we can’t score more then 20.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 26, 2012 11:31 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
And acting like you can definitively predict the future won't get you anywhere either
It’s a risk. Not saying you have to like that risk, but stop acting like you have the script of life and know how this will work out.
You don't?
It’s a risky and cheap hire. We didn’t get chip kelly because of their failure to pay out severances.
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 26, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
No
I’m acknowledging it is a risk, but I’m not sitting here and acting like I know for sure how it will play out. At least be open minded. Chip Kelly didn’t come because he has an amazing set up at Oregon. Most who know him were shocked to hear he was even considering leaving.
Belichick is considered defensive minded.
He was just smart enough to learn offense along the way.
What none of you seem to realize
Is that for three weeks the Glazers sat down with some of the best football minds available and picked their brains. Whatever this guy—I’ll learn his name eventually—said in his interview, MUST have impressed them.
My guess is they wanted a young guy who had experience disciplining young players, hence the attempted signings of two college coaches, coupled with the intellect of older, more experienced coaches. The Glazers wanted the best of both worlds and I bet they got it.
I predict .500 or better this year. Go Bucs!
by ericshysterics on Jan 26, 2012 11:32 AM EST reply actions
Best hire ????
The assumption that anyone who disagrees with this hire doesn’t know Football makes as much sense as the actual hiring…To me this is a sad ass example of mismanagement just like offering 6 million to Chip and not focusing on quality backups. I want to thank the Glazer girls for helping me decide between Hunting in the fall or watching the Bucs..
Finally an HC
Schiano is the other one we didn’t see coming. Chip didn’t pan out so it was a no go on the offensive hire, we fall back on a defensive guy. I find no reason to be upset about this hire until his actions give me reason to. Now what’s the staff gonna look like…
by GoBuxGo on Jan 26, 2012 11:45 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Better than Sherman.
Bucs fan in Indy here. The Bucs, this morning, had eliminated Marty-ball, Zimmer, Jerry Gray, and Brad Childress. This basically left Chud and Sherman as the likely hire. I’ll take Schiano over Sherman anyday in any situation. The verdict is out on Chud as he has never been a HC. Give me a guy who can coach a team like Rutgers into a respectable program and conference contender. That program was a total joke before he got there. Of course his record doesn’t indicate what he has done in recent years. His first two years he won three games total. How do you win games with a terrible program the minute you get there? Unless it’s a big time program you don’t. It took him time to build a contender and he did. Give Greg a chance. He’s a no non-sense guy who will do wonders with a bunch of young talent on that defense. Another solid draft and a few players in FA and we will be back to respectable. Go BUCS!
This will depend
One who we bring in to run the offense. If we get another Greg Olsen we are screwed. Go Bucs!
NEW HC
have been a fan since 77, and really cant believe once again how bad things have gotten tampa. We would rather try a complete, relatively unknown. Instead of someone like marty, a coach with huge resume, in all the years coaching only 2 losing seasons. Didn’t mind Zim, didn’t mind Chud, didn’t mind Mike, loved Marty, not sold on Greg. Hey Tampa see you 3 years, when we get to do this all over again. It looks like we are back to the yuccanners again.
How is Schiano any more of an unknown that Chud?
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Part of me can't help but wonder how much of this hire
is because he’s had success dumpster diving. He might even be the best dumpster diver in college / NFL. Would hate to see him and Dom. sign a buncha crappy free agents expecting success.
We were 4-12... how much "success" has he really had?
This team blew up because we had no veteran leaders and a wimpy “your my BFF” coach.
THis is mostly Doms fault, and if he lied and IS being hamstrung by the cheap-o Glazers, then the balme should be divided equally between them. Rah was a stupid hire.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I never said Dom had success
’he’s had success dumpster diving’ was a reference to Schiano. I meant that Schiano has had success dumpster diving. For the record I think Dom’s moves have largely failed.
Ah... then we agree.
Dom is filling the roster with warm bodies and cast-offs. 3-13, 10-6 and 4-12 still equals 17-21 which sucks crank. Hugh Culverhouse is watching the Glazers from the grave and shouting: “That’s what I’m talkin about”
Clearly that 10-6 was a schedule-induced anomoly.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah... typo
but that makes my point even more valid. Egads… 3 more years of this.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
No I definitely agree that dumpster diving is not the way to go
Blount was a great find, I don’t think that is debatable, but unfortunately it seems Blount gave them the impression there were many other great finds available, when in actuality Blount was an exception to the rule. The NFL is too skilled to find success via multiple castoffs and through dumpster diving.
It’s almost like the front office watched ‘The Replacements’ one too many times.
Blount was a good find
Because he got rowdy at bad times on football fields, he didn’t fall off because of a lack of talent. The Boise State ordeal hurt his draft stock and he fell of the radar and into the hands of the Titans. Guys like Arian Foster, Johnny Knox, Victor Cruz, & our own LGB are always looking to be found. Some teams turn there heads and some just don’t look.
by GoBuxGo on Jan 26, 2012 12:37 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Blount fell from the sky...
and right into our laps. TEN tried to sneak him through on waivers, and because we were SO pathetic in 2009, we were first in line. If you recall, undrafted LGB was going to sign with SF, but then changed his mind last minute and went to TEN.
That doesn’t make Dom a genius. Drafting him late in 2009 and avoiding all the waiver-wire drama would have made him look smart(er).
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Chud
Come to Tampa and help make this offense relevant. He would be the hottest coach available next year if he could come here and make things happen.
Would you leave Cam for Free?
I wouldnt
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
No I would not either. Freeman can be a good QB in the right system. Cam is special though with a rare combo of speed, size
Chud is not going to be our OC. It was HC or nothing with him imo
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Think about it
One of the reasons that some team didnt want him is because they think his success is mainly due to Cam. If he came to Tampa and did it again not a single team that needs a head coach would think twice about hiring him. Yes I know he did it with Derek Anderson. But if he did it again with Freeman he would be a god .
Whatcha gonna do when Schianomania runs wild on you brotha?!?
Good luck Rah. Bring us Mo Claiborne and replace Geno, Quincy, and Sean Jones!
Could Be Exactly what we need
I think this is a Great Hire…We’ve got a coach that knows how to turn a program around….Take a look at Rutgers 2000 team before he got there 3-8 and they lost games by big margins just like we did this year…now imagine turning a 2000 team from 3-8 to a 2006 team who was 11-2…Rutgers was at one point rated 1 of the worse programs in college football which is where our bucs sit right now in the NFL.We don’t need a coach thats not use to turning a program around because he will choke under pressure obviosuly schiano is confident in his ability to turn this program around.And belichick recommended him Schiano was the (DC) of that swarming UM defense that featured Dang Morgan,Ed Reed,and Vince Wilfork.For some reason he reminds me of Jim Harbaugh which is good because discipline wont be an option….
Great! Another New Yorker in Tampa!!! Go Figure!
He’ll probably cheer for the yankees at the Trop too!
I wonder if JoePa would have made it an extra week, would we have made a run after him?
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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
I think we are all missing the big picture here.
He took a team that hadn’t been to a bowl game since the mid 70’s and built them from being abysmal to a respected program. No doubt, his squad lacked elite talent, but I doubt players are sprinting to take a roster spot on the Rutgers. It can only be a bonus that he has an eye for talent, so no complaints there. He went to 6 bowl games and won 5 of them, so he’s a winner, and his 68-67 record is skewed by his first four season. Since 2006, Rutgers has gone 48-29. I personally like this hire, and Bill Belichek backing it is also a plus for me.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 26, 2012 12:08 PM EST reply actions
Like Bellichek is going to do any NFL team a favor
Please you could ask him if the Cookie Monster would make a good NFL head coach and he would rave about him.
Ohhhhhhhhh yeahhh!
by The_Macho_Man on Jan 26, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, because becoming a coach means you can't put in a good word for a friend you respect.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 26, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
The Cookie Monster refused to interview with us...
by Cracker Ball on Jan 26, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He demanded 6 million cookies a year.
Glazers only offered 2
Belichick might be seen as a bad guy by the media
but he isn’t regarded as a bad guy in coaching circles.
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You want to know how bad the Rutgers program was right before he got there...
In 1999, Rutgers had it’s biggest win in years against against Syracuse. When you consider that there are 42,000 student’s at Rutgers, and tickets to the football games are free for the students, they didn’t have enough people there to tear down the goalposts. On ESPN, the line Boomer used when recapping the end of the game, he said…. And the fans, outnumbered by players and coaches, storm the field.
Rutgers was one of, if not the worst college programs in all of College football prior to Schiano. Terry Shea managed to win 4 conference games in 5 years.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
That's why I feel Schiano is exactly what this team needs.
Someone who will put them to work, and assemble gameplans that will work with the talent he brings in.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 26, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
I'll tell you one thing...
The guy has a lot of fire. I really hope that he turns down the job, but i just don’t know why he wouldn’t.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
Defensive
He was DC of the 2000 University of Miami Defense..
by DrummaBoi561 on Jan 26, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 26, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Schiano’s staff is whats going to get me intrigued. I have no problems with the hire at all. I hope he assmbles a staff where he does his homework as to what will fit the offense and defense.
by Marlon The Okayplayer on Jan 26, 2012 12:15 PM EST reply actions
If he gets a good staff
I feel like he could be a good coach. He has the leadership to command the respect of the team, he isn’t too young, and he is good at building a competitive team. I like it, a lot actually.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 26, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Lets Hope Dom & Schiano get on the same page
And make some good decisions when addressing the direction they want to take this team. Id love to hear the players’ reaction to the hire. The next few months are going to be very telling IMO.
by GoBuxGo on Jan 26, 2012 12:28 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I wonder..
Wonder if he just wants to see if he can turn around another garbage program. Are we shiano’s next “rutgers”?
by Barbaric on Jan 26, 2012 12:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm good with this!
I think this is a really good choice. What kind of defense will he run with the Bucs or will that depend on the DC they bring in?
cant say Im Impressed.
Lets hope his first move is to take out the trash. Starting with guys who celebrate a first down when they are 20 points behind.
If we wanted a guy with a Defensive background
why didn’t we hire Zimmer or Interview Perry Fewell both CURRENT NFL coach’s who can both say they have had recent success in the NFL in some way or another. Does Dom even know he’s suppose to be are GM? maybe tomorrow we can cut Ronde Barber and pick up Haynesworth(again! it’s amazing i can even say that) and Holmes just to really make sure this team goes no where for a long time
As fans we should be optimistic
His resume isn’t the best out there but give him 2 seasons & then re-visit the topic if he’s a good hire or not. We’re looking at this all wrong, who will truly determine if we get better is Dom. If he fails to provide GOOD quality talent (Free agency/Draft), it won’t matter coaches us. We’ll still be the doormats of the NFC South.
by InfamousHp on Jan 26, 2012 1:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
East/West Game & Senior Bowl
Does anyone know if we have reps going to these games evaluating players? I know the coaching staff as a whole got fired, but did we send anybody???
by InfamousHp on Jan 26, 2012 1:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Okay cool
Almost had a WTF moment, I only asked because I’ve been following the Senior Bowl coverage and I haven’t seen or heard any mentions of Tampa Bay at the venue.
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