Oakland Raiders hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach
by Sander on Jan 24, 2012 9:11 PM EST
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PrintAnd another coach is off the market. According to Jay Glazer (and since then confirmed by others) the Oakland Raiders will hire Denver Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen as their new head coach, provided contract details get worked out. And with that hiring, just two teams are still searching for their next head coach: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Indianapolis Colts.
The Bucs had shown no interest in Dennis Allen, so this hiring doesn't really hurt them directly, but as the Raiders start to fill out their coaching staff the Bucs will find a smaller market of potential assistants once they do hire a head coach.
It's interesting that most teams have hired coaches who weren't really on the Bucs' radar. The Kansas City Chiefs hired Romeo Crennel, their interim head coach who never interviewed with the Bucs. The St. Louis Rams hired Jeff Fisher, and there was never an interview with Tampa Bay there. The Jacksonville Jaguars went after Mike Mularkey, and he was never interviewed by the Bucs either. Only the Miami Dolphins hired a coach the Bucs may have wanted in Joe Philbin.
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BRING IN ZIMMER!!!
The only guy i want from broncos is a dude named TEBOW!!! lol
GO GATORS!!!
by Gators_Bucs_fan on Jan 24, 2012 9:36 PM EST reply actions
No
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
No to Tebow or Zimmer?
I can understand Tebow, but Zimmer seems to be a decent HC candidate.
Oderint dum metuant
No to tebow, come on man!!!
Tebow is not a quality starting QB, never will be, so lets get over the tebow talk already… Lets bring in either zim, chud or marty now so that we can have quality assistants here already.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 24, 2012 10:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He could have meant no to both.
I am not a fan of Tebow, but the way some people praise him, you might assume he is the next John Elway.
Oderint dum metuant
I agree jben05,
I dont see it with him. He is a fighter and compassionate, but his skill as a passeris horrible with very limited upside…
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 24, 2012 10:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
All it takes to beat him is a disciplined defense and a quality game plan, guaranteed.
He only wins because he rarely turns the ball over, and he capitalizes on the other team’s mistakes. Also, he is similar to a running back in that he will have a short shelf life. There is no way he will play the way he is now for more than 5 consecutive years. Free had a bad season, but he has a high ceiling. He has all of the tools to be an Aaron Rodgers type of QB, he just needs time and a good QB coach to reach that level.
Oderint dum metuant
Just sayin
Tebow won more games than our QB. The Media and fans bash the dude because he doesn’t hide his faith(as a fan I could care less),More so because he isn’t the prototypical NFL QB. Tebow’s talented, to say he has limited upside is just plain ignorant.
by GoBuxGo on Jan 24, 2012 10:43 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He occasionally throws the deep ball accurate, but other than that he has mediocre accuracy.
And I’m being very generous in saying mediocre. He had a similar skill level coming out of college, and has shown little to no improvement with his passing skills. To me, that shows a limited upside. There is a reason why they lost 4 of their last games, the defenses figured out how to stop that offense. Only Pitt lost to them, but that was because they didn’t want to follow the blueprint the previous teams had laid out.
Free had one of the better passing seasons in 2010 in franchise history. That shows upside. Free had a down year, but so did Rivers. It happens to most quarterbacks.
No one here has criticized his faith. I don’t know if you are just venting or not, but that part of your argument falls on deaf ears.
Oderint dum metuant
I dont bash tebow because of his faith.
I see a QB who played to his strengths at the college level and who is out of his element in the pro’s. He sucks as a pro QB and has very limited upside that defenses will exploit now that they have tape on him… He is like a dinosaur who doesnt know that he is extinct yet. Ignorant i’m not.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 24, 2012 10:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Plus jben05, people seem to forget that the steelers defense was missing a lot of players before and during the game.
They were down to only one DL after halftime and were starting LB’s on the line. Denver got lucky playing the walking wounded mash unit of the steelers at the right time.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 24, 2012 10:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
True.
I forgot about that, but they still could have won if the didn’t bring both safetys up in the box for the majority of the game. That’s why the Broncos kept getting all of those big plays.
Oderint dum metuant
Tebow signing makes sense for one reason
To sell tickets & jerseys. Aka a Tebow signing will lift the blackouts & pump money into the organization. But realistically…HELL NO! Tebow is a gimmick until he works on his craft as a QB.
by InfamousHp on Jan 25, 2012 12:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
One player is not going to sell 10,000 tickets every game
That’s ridiculous. He’s popular, but the effect won’t be that big. And the effect will be gone within a couple of games when it’s obvious he isn’t actually good.
You Sander are not familiar with University of Florida fans.
There’s a reason Tebow’s jersey is a top seller, they even followed Spurrier around when he went to the Redskins.
"I feel like I'm the best, but you're not going to get me to say that." - Jerry Rice
10,000 seats is a lot
Jacksonville did research on how many seats Tebow would sell, and it was around 3,000 (http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/401949/chet-fussman/2011-10-23/tim-tebows-popularity-underestimated)
Anyway, those sales would stop once he’s benched for not being good enough. Because he’s not.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
But they would make some impact in sales. I’m very thankful that we go to Denver next year, not them coming here.
I might try to go to that game actually, got some friends that live in Denver.
"I feel like I'm the best, but you're not going to get me to say that." - Jerry Rice
Marty zimmer or chud
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 24, 2012 9:46 PM EST via Android app reply actions 2 recs
* this right here...
Lets freaking do it already….
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 24, 2012 10:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Marty or Zimmer or Chud- oh my!
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
by RookTakesYou on Jan 25, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Oakland Moves Faster Than Us
We lose Chip, hopefully don’t hire Sherman, bring in Zimmer or Marty and Hue or Chilly as O/C and life can be good in Tampa
I Maybe Wrong But I Doubt It
NO sweater vest and NO sherman, other than that I'm to the point where I could care less, just get somebody!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 24, 2012 9:51 PM EST reply actions
Hire an HC with a defensive background.
by GoBuxGo on Jan 24, 2012 9:59 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Uncle Al is having seizures in his coffin right now.
"I feel like I'm the best, but you're not going to get me to say that." - Jerry Rice
The last defensive-minded HC AL hired bought home an SB title
Now that coach has some silly video game he’s been selling all over the universe
by GoBuxGo on Jan 24, 2012 10:55 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Would like a coach this century!!
Yes, while it’s true we would be fine even if we didn’t hire a coach this week; what the heck will our options be for coordinators and other supportive coaches? Ughh! We have a youngry team (had to throw that in there) and these guys need the best coaches they can find to hone and develop their skills. Help! Help us please! Throw us a bone. I’m all for methodically choosing a coach and making the best decision, but this suspense is killing me!
by gmaz1 on Jan 24, 2012 10:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
College Coaches!
"Number one song and a Grammy, now I'm smashing
Maserati crashing, swerving through the traffic
Wrap it 'round a pole, sell a mil off the tragedy
I defy gravity "
It seems like with chip kelley gone
The head coach we are going to hire had already interviewed for us, so I dont understand why this can’t be done tomorrow. I’ll be happy with either marty or chud, other than them I’m not too excited about any of the other interviewed choices.
by Mattw313 on Jan 24, 2012 10:48 PM EST via Android app reply actions
lol
The St. Petersburg Times believes there’s a “strong chance” former Texas A&M coach Mike Sherman will be named the Bucs’ new head coach.
The Bucs have yet to inform any of their myriad candidates to replace Raheem Morris they’re out of the running, but Sherman is the first to be called back for a second interview. The situation should be resolved by the end of the week.
Source: St. Petersburg Times Jan 24 – 9:41 PM
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
We went from Chip to Shermie
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
That still SUCKS!!!!
Lol
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 24, 2012 11:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Doesn't mean anything, St.pete times is like tier 50 on the official sources are accurate list
"Number one song and a Grammy, now I'm smashing
Maserati crashing, swerving through the traffic
Wrap it 'round a pole, sell a mil off the tragedy
I defy gravity "
Why the hell are the Bucs even looking at Sherman?
In GB he had a .594 Win % with a HOF QB in his prime. That is an average of 9.5 wins a season with Favre. What is he going to do with Freeman? 6-8 wins a year average? That is never going to cut it in the NFC South. Sherman got fired from Texas A&M before the Meineke Car Care Bowl, that should be a red flag. I would like to see Zimmer as HC and Hue Jackson as OC.
by Poundtherok on Jan 25, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
I still dont get why
Why have we not interviewed Hue Jackson for HC?
What about Green Bay's QB coach
Tom Clements. He was the QB coach for Green Bay now promoted to OC due to the Miami hiring. But I say we give Clements a shot before we declare Mike Sherman a finalist! C’mon Bucs, we can do better than this.
by InfamousHp on Jan 25, 2012 12:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Or Winston Moss get a interview
by InfamousHp on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Raiders pulled a Rooney Rule interview on him.
"I feel like I'm the best, but you're not going to get me to say that." - Jerry Rice
Heard a interesting story.
I was listening to Sirius/XM Mad dog radio & they gave a unnamed report saying Houston might let Mario Williams test the market because Foster is a priority signing & the defense was pretty good without him this yr. If this report is true, I think we should go after him. Move Bowers to the inside rotating with GMC & Price. Put Mario on the end with Bennett rotating between him & Clayborn. That move will give us the most disruptive D-line in the league next to the G-Men.
by InfamousHp on Jan 25, 2012 12:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I like the idea of getting Mario,
but we would have to move Bowers to make it work. The Giants have four D’s and they all get playing time. We could do the same.
by flash_kiley on Jan 25, 2012 12:43 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
*would NOT have to move Bowers
by flash_kiley on Jan 25, 2012 12:45 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I only say move Bowers inside because...
Mario & Clayborn without a question would be starters on the ends. I think Bowers could give Price a run for his money at the other DT position. He did a pretty good job rotating in there before the injury to Bennett. I would also like to see them keep Haynesworth (with a incentive based contract) as insurance for GMC.
by InfamousHp on Jan 25, 2012 1:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
We could move him inside on pass-rushing situations.
And maybe he is the type of athlete that can add 10-15 pounds and keep his quickness. But him being the third DE would still mean he would see a lot of playing time. Defensive line is one place you don’t have to be a starter to play a lot. He could sub in for Clayborn and Williams often to keep them fresh.
by flash_kiley on Jan 25, 2012 2:05 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah, you right
Either way if he’s available I want him here. My free agent list in order of Priority.
1. CB- Finnegan (If we keep Talib & draft Claiborne then we don’t need him)
2. WR- D. Jackson or Stevie Johnson
3. DE- Mario Williams (If the report is true)
Obtaining these all names will cost us in the ballpark of 25-40 Mill a yr in guarantees.
by InfamousHp on Jan 25, 2012 2:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah 35 to 40
Mario will bring 17 or 18 mil alone
A DE over a solid linebacker?
Doesn’t make sense. We have a pretty good core of DEs. They are still developing but huge upside. Linebacker we are weak except Foster. And even Foster is developing.
Agree with other picks, but our needs at LB, OL, safety are higher than DE
by gmaz1 on Jan 25, 2012 7:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ha... lot many positions you can say that about
but Mario Williams is a load. Should have impact along the lines of the CHI/Julius Peppers signing ( I wish we would have made).
by Cracker Ball on Jan 25, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I say we give Tanard one more yr, with a full off season under his belt before we write him off. And move Cody Grimm to SS, he’s already the best tackler in the secondary, so why not?
by InfamousHp on Jan 25, 2012 8:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Giants weren't thinking that
When they drafted JPP. A fresh rotation on the D-line equals a dominate D-line. The Giants have lived by that philosophy for years. As far as the LB position goes, that’s what the 2nd & 3rd round of the draft is for.
by InfamousHp on Jan 25, 2012 8:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Also with a dominate D-line, you can get away with a young, inexperienced or mediocre LB core. Again I say look at the G-men (Average LBs across the board).
by InfamousHp on Jan 25, 2012 8:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree that a defensive line is much more important than a linebacking corps
But I think the Bucs can find much better ways to spend that money than on another defensive end.
The Giants never signed a free agent to a massive deal
Mario Williams is going to get Julius Peppers money. With the kind of talent the Bucs do have on the defensive line giving a defensive end that kind of money is a poor way to spend your resources.
I don’t think he’ll command that much money only because theres not a lot teams that have money to spend. And I’ll take anything I can get, to pressure Brees & Newton twice a year. At the end of the day we have to spend the money per the CBA, Mario is an elite player & will only make everyone else on the line better (Assuming the report is true).
by InfamousHp on Jan 25, 2012 9:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Please use the subject line
Anyway, the Bucs do not have to spend money per the CBA this year. That only starts next year, and even then it’s only accounted for as an average over a four-year period, so they don’t need to spend immediately either.
Mario Williams is going to get a ridiculous contract exactly because he is an elite player. If the Texans let him walk at all, he’s going to sign a monster deal. A lot of teams have cap money to spend, but you don’t need a lot of teams to be interested to get a big deal. Only two.
And then what happens with Bowers, Clayborn, Bennett? You’re not going to take Mario Williams off the field for them, so two out of those three are going to get very limited snaps.
It’s just a poor way to spend your resources. If you’re going to spend that kind of money, you’re better off on this team spending it on a combination of a left guard, a right tackle, a receiver, a cornerback, a linebacker and a safety. With the kind of money Mario Williams is going to get you can fill three or four of those holes, instead of adding to what is already a strength.
Yeah its like if the patriots were to sign peyton
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 25, 2012 9:58 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Don't give them ideas!
Knowing the patriots, they will come up with some unstoppable formation with 2 HOF QBs in the backfield.
Oderint dum metuant
by jBen05 on Jan 25, 2012 10:07 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
People like to bash Belichick...
but there are only 7 players on this team that were part of their 2007 SB team – a complete roster turnover. Amazing.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 25, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
7 is misleading because the majority of the 7 are at the most important positions,
QB, DL, OL, and Brady’s favorite target in Welker.
Oderint dum metuant
by jBen05 on Jan 25, 2012 11:17 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
It is a very good 7...that still leaves 46 new faces
which I personally find amazing.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 25, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
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