No need to rush for Tampa Bay Buccaneers in coaching search
by Sander on Jan 24, 2012 1:59 PM EST
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PrintThe Tampa Bay Buccaneers swung and missed with Chip Kelly, and now they're moving on to finding the next coach. Here's what they can't do, though: settle for a coach they're not fully behind because they're in a rush to find someone. Yes, the Bucs are at a disadvantage because good assistant coaches are disappearing off the market every day. That's a problem - but it's not as big of a problem as hiring a head coach you're not convinced about.
Hiring a head coach should be a long-term commitment for a franchise. When hiring a head coach you're not just selecting a figurehead, you're selecting a philosophy and a way of playing football. What you can't do in that case is pick the guy who happens to be available. You must find the right fit.
That's what the Bucs thought they had in Chip Kelly, until he pulled out. Now they must find someone else - but they can't just settle for someone. They must take the time they need to get a coach. As annoying as this wait is, the losses that come with selecting the wrong coach would be much more annoying.
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I agree with you in theory
But when I see that three very viable candidates have been interviewed- Schottenheimer, Chudzinski, and Zimmer- and there’s been no (visible) action from the Glaziers post-Kelly except to call back the most milquetoast candidate Mike Sherman for a second interview, my blood pressure rises. I truly hope that we have a coach by the end of the week. I worry that the Glaziers and Dom are stuck in Hamlet-mode, endlessly arguing the pros and cons of every course of action and handicapping their ability to actually accomplish anything.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
After Chip Kelly came out of nowhere
I stopped trying to guess what the Glaziers are doing.
THEY BETTER HAVE SOME RABBITS
This is getting bad, even the Dolphins got their man. Why the heck can’t we?
It is time to make a splash, and if it is Sherman, DOM IS a JOKE!
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 24, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
As usual... I agree with you Sander - mostly
But as history will show, most HCs do not last very long. I would guess that 5 years or so is the average stay. It is SO rare that a coach stays with one team for any length of time. Jeff Fisher was with HOU/TEN for 15ish years, which is a true anomoly in these times. The days of Tom Landry and Chuck Noll are long gone. Most owners pay SO much for a franchise that they seemingly want to win now – even though the absolute worst franchise still makes craploads of money.
The hiring of Schottenheimer, for example, would probably not be considered a long-term situation, but if an OC or DC of his was being groomed to take over, the disruption would be negligable.
That is kinda how I see this unfolding…
by Cracker Ball on Jan 24, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'm hoping with you.
Not to many candidates are that impressive. I wouldn’t mind Chud. But I’d much rather Tressel.
Is there a chance
They have their eyes on a HC prospect from either the Giants or Pats?
There have been rumors
about interest in either Fewell or Gilbride, but nothing substantiated as far as I’m aware.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
by RookTakesYou on Jan 24, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
I would love Fewell coming over to the BUCS
Bring back the D
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 24, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Ha... we swung and missed with Chip Kelly
Sir, that attempt looked more like they were trying to hit a Randy Johnson fastball with a drinking straw.
Crash and Burn…
by Cracker Ball on Jan 24, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
well
morningwig is out there the oc of the eagles they hvnt even looking his way
The Raiders seem to be all over Morninwheg right now...
which, to me, has to be one of the very least attractive jobs. I hope Al Davis’ son leaves the poor guy alone.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 24, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
The only reason I'm antsy is
because we have NO COACHING STAFF. Otherwise, this wouldn’t be so bad.
A woman who knows her sports.
by Bucs-RaysChick on Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM EST reply actions
Keith Millard just signed with the Titans.
It’s too bad, I thought he did a good job.
Oderint dum metuant
Spagnuolo got away from us, too. Sigh.
A woman who knows her sports.
by Bucs-RaysChick on Jan 24, 2012 3:12 PM EST reply actions
Get the right guy.
I would love to have Jim Tressel. I don’t get into that OSU crap. Truth be told he is a great coach and would help bring the dominating defense that the bucs are known for back.
Why? Tressel is a great coach
He can’t help that NCAA is old and outdated, and athletes are not given a stipend to play Minor League Football.
It is the attorney’s fault who caught the scheme and then sent the information ILLEGALLY to Tressel.
The Sweater Vest is a better hire then Sherman….Fact!
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 24, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
sweater vest and sherman = puke < martyball is the way to go if you want an older coach
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 24, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Thought you didn't want what you called "Chokenheimer" here.
"I feel like I'm the best, but you're not going to get me to say that." - Jerry Rice
he's by far the best if those are the only options
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 24, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
As of now, yeah. I was all for Chip Kelly though, too bad that didn't work out.
I think even Chris Pederson is worth a look.
"I feel like I'm the best, but you're not going to get me to say that." - Jerry Rice
I just wonder.....
If they take to long hiring the HC, is that going to handicap the new HC’s future because of the OCs, DCs and other quality coaches being snatched up by other teams!
"In life, you'll have your back up against the wall many times. You might as well get used to It." - Coach Paul 'Bear' Bryant
Who said they want Tressel?!?!?
Are you serious!? I’m pulling for Fewell or Zimmer who are far more accomplished NFL COORDINATORS who could transition into head coaching more easier than that scumbag Tressel (Not taking anything away from his accomplishments at OSU).
by InfamousHp on Jan 24, 2012 3:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He isn't scum, the players are/were
He is a baller, and a winner.
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 24, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Please!! No sweater vest here...
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 24, 2012 10:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
A Scumbag is...
A coach who extorts his Junior players (who got caught) to let them play in the bowl game, only if they don’t declare for the NFL draft. And in return he’ll start their suspensions the next season, when he knew about their actions months before the bowl games & didn’t report it. He then lies TWICE publicy when they got caught. He could’ve suspended them back when he found out & had them back on the field in time (Assuming they make it to a bowl game). But he put his W-L record, and his legacy at OSU over doing the right thing. He was a pretty good coach on the college level, but coaching aside GTFOHWTBS! he can go kick rocks.
by InfamousHp on Jan 25, 2012 12:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
John clayton said
One of the biggest reasons raheem is not here any more is, the bucs waited soo long to hire him that when they did there were not a good pool of assistants to choose from cause the best ones were taken
by keysersoze19 on Jan 24, 2012 3:47 PM EST via Android app reply actions
they had two years to fix that and chose not to
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 24, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Why question the system
After a ten win season
by keysersoze19 on Jan 24, 2012 4:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The wise looked a little deeper...
and saw the medocrity and pointed to a poofy schedule as the explaination.
Seems to have played out exactly like that.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 24, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Schedule or no schedule
No team is going to question the system after a ten win season
by keysersoze19 on Jan 24, 2012 5:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
no team that wants to get better just sits on their ass after a 10 win season, you have to keep progressing
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 24, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah the ten win season with no playoff appearance got treated like a superbowl victory by some of our players
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 24, 2012 5:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Not surprising
Was the first winning season for a bunch of rookies and second years.
If we had Gruden we would have more of an identity...
Sort of… But it wouldn’t be pretty.
Also the age thing: There would be no young franchise quarterback. We’d probably have Jeff George at quarterback and Chris Carter as our number one wide receiver.
I’m glad we moved on. Just wish we’d done a better job of it…
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
by Kilgore on Jan 24, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
finallly a reality check
Smoke 'em Blount!
by chuckyforpres on Jan 24, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
HC
Jay Gruden and you’ll probably also get Jon for free as a bonus
Or Jon telling Jay to not come here.
"I feel like I'm the best, but you're not going to get me to say that." - Jerry Rice
man i was wanting chip but
Come on Billick he would be awesome here I think
by blountforce72 on Jan 24, 2012 3:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Everybody seems to simply ignore Billick...
wonder what the story is behind that?
by Cracker Ball on Jan 24, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
IDK Why Billick is blacklisted?
He must have pissed off the wrong dude.
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Jan 24, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Billick has issues...Ever seen Coach Speak?
Billick stuck up for Raheem pretty much until the bitter end. I know Raheem was a weekly guest on his podcast Coach Speak—or whatever you want to call that show— but come on, man. Rah had the same answers week in and week out. Hard, fast, smart, etc.
I can totally understand the Glazers staying away from him for backing a coach they eventually fired.
by ericshysterics on Jan 24, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
him for DC for sure
he did a hell of a job at florida
GO GATORS!!!
by Gators_Bucs_fan on Jan 24, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
I was one of the ones calling for Gruden's head.
Now I can only dream of him being our head coach again haha.
I often wonder
Were would Free be right now as a QB with 3 years under Gruden
Brett Favre would be recovering for the 2012 season with the Bucs after a tumultuous 2011 by sexting a pic of his dick to some dancer from Mons.
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
I've never been in such a respectable establishment, but I'm sure he could find one.
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
Why Can't The Bucs Pick A Coach Who is Winning?
The Colts are looking at the Ravens defensive coordinator to become their head coach. The Bucs are looking at Sherman who was fired from his Packers job and his Texas A&M job who could not win. Who do you think will have more success? The Bucs picking someone who has failed to win, or the Colts who is picking a defensive coordinator from a team with a top defense in the NFL? When they conducted searches when McKay was the GM, coaches like Dungy (top defensive coordinator elsewhere when hired) and Gruden (a coach who was winning in Oakland and knew offense) were hired. Now with the Glazers and Mark “clueless” Dominik looking at lovable losers for the most part, who do you think will have more success? The Colts or the Bucs? I would be putting money on the Colts if there was a betting line on this.
Well on good thing to look at
Back in 95 or 96 the Bucs went after a hot shot college coach and missed out, The Bucs ended up with Dungy instead. That hot shot coach was Spurrier
History doesn't repeat itself as often as we're led to believe.
We’re more likely to follow up missing out on Kelly with someone nowhere near Dungy’s caliber.
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
You are only as good as your supporting cast (players and coaches)
Seems like there are fewer and fewer to choose from. If Dominic was the most influential one for Raheem’s staff, he utterly failed! It is important we find a good head coach soon and even more important, a great staff!
I'd love to go for that Steelers ex OC
Bruce Arians. He did well with Big Ben.
Go Magic/Bucs/Gators/Rays!
by chiefs_55 on Jan 24, 2012 7:43 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
From Stephen Holder
Mike Sherman is a “finalist”, but no other candidates have been informed that either 1) they are also finalists or 2) they are no longer under consideration.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
Speculation time?
I vote for Jon Gruden!
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Lets just bring in the butler from the movie "Driving Miss Daisy".
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 24, 2012 10:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was thinking about this a little Today.
Part of me wishes that if they had known they were going to fire Raheem, they went ahead and did it before the end of the season. They could have started interviewing the Re-treads earlier on in the process, and looked to coordinators following the season.
The teams that do not currently have a head coach are ones who fired the existing one following the season.
Who needs normal sleep patterns?
by AcadianTraverse on Jan 24, 2012 8:49 PM EST reply actions
That's what I've been saying, this shouldn't be taking this long.
they could have interviwed all the unemployed guys, like marty, before the season ended
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 24, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
I hope not, but if it's Sherman
then, his hiring could be after National Signing Day.
Some of his assistants will definitely come from college ranks.
As head coach, no.
He is too cocky and wants too much control. As an OC, yes. He calls a good game, but should not be in charge of personnel decisions.
by flash_kiley on Jan 25, 2012 2:01 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Theres a rumor going around
That the Ravens might fire Cam Cameron & hire Hue Jackson as their OC. I hope not because I wouldn’t mind him with us as a OC, but WE GOTTA GET A DAMN HC FIRST!!!
by InfamousHp on Jan 25, 2012 3:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
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