Mike Sherman to interview with Tampa Bay Buccaneers a second time per report
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers may have whiffed on Chip Kelly yesterday, but they're moving forward with their coaching search. According to Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times the Bucs will bring in Mike Sherman for a second interview. Sherman was one of the first coaches they interviewed when the coaching search started, and he is apparently a finalist for the job.
As a veteran NFL head coach, Mike Sherman would bring some credibility to the locker room, he has a reputation as a disciplinarian and he knows what it takes to win in the NFL. While his stint as Texas A&M's head coach didn't lead to great success, he went 57-39 as the Green Bay Packers' head coach and won three straight division titles. He also has the connections to put together a quality coaching staff. Overall, Mike Sherman would be a solid but unspectacular hire for the Bucs.
With Mike Sherman coming in for a second interview, it seems the Bucs are moving into the final phase of their head coaching search. The Bucs have interviewed a number of candidates that we know of, and are likely to choose among those coaches. Those candidates include Rob Chudzinski, Mike Zimmer, Jerry Gray, Tom Clements, Brad Childress and Marty Schottenheimer. Don't be shocked if the Buccaneers manage to find a surprise candidate, however.
Related: Mike Sherman coaching profile
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A "surprise" candidate doesn't necessarily mean a good one...
just an unexpected one. Ugh… Sherman. Would much prefer Schotty with Sherman as OC.
What a letdown.
I dont know if Potato chip would have succeeded here but I was willing to give him a chance. Now, I dont know what to think….
East Coast Fan
BUCCANEERS INTERVIEWING SHERMAN AGAIN
You are right. A surprise candidate is not always the best. And, maybe it’s for the Buc’s good that Kelly did not come to Tampa.
I will state my choice, as it has been all along. MARTY SCHOTTENHEIMER!
Nothing against coach Sherman. He’s just not my choice.
“NONE” of the candidates interviewed has the experience and integrity that Marty possesses. I’m disappointed that the Glazer’s have not named him our head coach.
I am not sure why the Glazers seem enamored with coach Sherman. His track record does not hold up next to Marty Schottenheimer’s. No other coach’s record stands up to Marty’s. My choice is the erudite veteran……RIGHT NOW!
I implore the Glazers to PLEASE, PLEASE, announce Marty as our new head coach!!! You have already talked to the right guy!!!
I'd take Marty over most of the list of people they have talked to as well.
"I feel like I'm the best, but you're not going to get me to say that." - Jerry Rice
Are they interviewing Marty after him
by GoBuxGo on Jan 23, 2012 7:45 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
i wish
im guna have nightmares tonight that i wake up tomorow and sherman is the hc
Perhaps Schottenheimer did well enough...
that HE doesn’t require a second interview. *crossing fingers
by Cracker Ball on Jan 23, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Watch the Glazers will hire Sherman on a knee jerk reaction, just like they did with Raheem
because they heard Philbin wants him
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 23, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
me too
i think i would just shoot myself.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
marty could die any day,
let alone some one will have to change his grandpa diapers
I vote for you to do it...
anyone second this?
by Cracker Ball on Jan 23, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
gee how old is tom coughlin
and he’s in the super bowl he’s 65
To Mlowebucs
mlowebucs…..You are obviously one of the repugnant and disrespectful “youth” bloggers on here! You obviously didn’t get your butt whacked good enough growing up! Better yet….you are probably a product of the sissy generation. You never got the paddle,
Shame! It would have shaped you into a much better person with character. The next best thing would have been for you to have done a stent in the Army. But, I feel certain you would have wussed out!
I bet Marty could “STILL” kick your butt!!!
BOOOOO
cmon bucs bring in zimmer or chud. I would be happy with either. I think zimmer would be a good choice.
GO GATORS!!!
by Gators_Bucs_fan on Jan 23, 2012 7:46 PM EST reply actions
NOT ZIMMER!
I’m originally from Ohio. My wife is native Floridian. I married into Florida. I know all about coach Zimmer. There’s a reason he’s mid 50’s and not held a head coaching job.
He is a total old school brute. I’m not talking about being a good disciplinarian. I’m talking about a guy with a style that will alienate our young players. He’s not our guy!
He belongs with the Bungles. His stock is over rated!
Hopefully their just bringing back
Everybody for a 2nd interview, let’s go Chud or the big Z!!
by TerenceJ11 on Jan 23, 2012 7:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This search is all over the map
What the hell happened to ONE former head coach, and ONE coordinator? How the hell does that Chip Kelly debacle even figure in?
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 23, 2012 7:47 PM EST reply actions
ray perkins is available
why not if were looking at childress and sherman
What? How is Sherman remotely comparable to Childress?
I really, really don’t get the hatred for Sherman. He’s a solid head coach. Not much more than that, but he’s solid.
Agree with you Sander
Would take Sherman or Marty any day over Childress.
by TerenceJ11 on Jan 23, 2012 7:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
agree
we all jus love the bucs so much we want something to be excited about for the 6 mos,
Ultimately we're either going to win or we aren't
all the rest of this is just screwing around on blogs killing time.
it's not exciting at all
and it’s a bit disappointing because he isn’t better than Marty or Zimmer.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
True!!
That’s why it should be Z or Chudzinski.
by TerenceJ11 on Jan 23, 2012 8:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
SHERMAN HATRED
I don’t hate Sherman. He’s just not my choice.
He got fired in Green Bay for a reason. He took a team with a lot of potential and never achieved more than mediocrity. His last season was 4-12. Ring a bell?
He was fired by Texas A&M after only 2 years.
I don’t like Sherman’s track record.
Chud better get one too
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
oh dear god....
please no. please please please please nooooooooo!!!!!!
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 7:56 PM EST reply actions
how bad can it be
i mean his record is 59-43 in the pros and 25-25 in college that will sell some tickets
Waste of time
Sherman underachiever in green bay with ga re and was average at A&M. If he’s an option, bring in Marty all – at least he wins in regular season. I prefer Zimmer with Clements as OC.
I'm with the room on this one
Sherman’s not the worst we could do (hi there Childress), but he’s the oatmeal of coaching candidates- probably good for you but never someone for which you’re going to be excited about getting up in the morning.
Schottenheimer, Zimmer, or Chud: any of those three plus a few other surprise candidates would be preferable.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
how about
marty as HC chud as OC and zimmer as DC highly unlikely but would be exciting
I don't have a problem with this
But it doesn’t have the instant wow factor that Kelly had. That being said, there have got to be other candidates in this dark interview room the fanbase isn’t aware of. Come on. Shock me again!
are those even viable options?
Seems kinda far fetched to me.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Chip Kelly had been talked about before as an option
and we were still shocked. Billick and Cowher are out of the game.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
You have to admit, it was more of a viable option
than Billick and Cowher.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Billick would take the job if offered
Cowher would have to be lured, probably with lots of money and control. Not impossible, but would be a surprise for sure.
I don't think Dominick would surrender enough power
to make Cowher happy.
As for Billick, god knows why he never gets calls.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Mark Trestman
Tons of coaching experience, just turned in his 2nd CFL title & he’s supposedly a QB guru. Not saying Trestman is likely but I’d be shocked if we heard his name
by GoBuxGo on Jan 23, 2012 8:23 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
i think
i think marty’s the general consensus, so does any of us have any pull with the glazers?
LOL. Marty would sell more tickets then Sherman I'm sure.
by RuudAwakening on Jan 23, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Marty does excite me
simply because I feel he would lay the best foundation down to build a steady competitive team.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
im on board
but i think before we have a chance the glazers are guna have a replacement
I'm all for petition for Marty
Whose starting it.. And whose in? This all has to go down in the next 24-48 hours. Or we can start picketing at one buc place! Who is in?!’
Marty…Marty… Marty!
Superbowl Party!
This guy is hungry and wants 3 years to go put with a bang!
by gmaz1 on Jan 23, 2012 8:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
throw up a fan poll marty vs. sherman let's see the results
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 23, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but there were twenty other names on that poll
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 23, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
i think he wants a poll with only sherman and schottey
it seems obvious schottey would win
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
He will. The only remotely interesting poll involving Schottey would be him vs Chip Kelly, and that’s moot at this point.
I'm not saying the glazers are reading bucsnation, but I'm sure the results would filter back to them
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 23, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
They already have them
As I said, those polls were won by Marty in a landslide. It’s really clear he’s the fans’ favorite choice.
with them bringing sherman back for another interview maybe they need to be reminded what the fans think
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 23, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not doing that poll again just for Sherman
Maybe once we have a clear picture of who else they’re adding as finalists.
sounds good
how a bout a Tampa higher marty shot facebook page or twitter page somethin like that?
i heard miami fans rented a banner plane saying fire the gm
or somthin like that
Picketing at One Buc
Sander, you don’t think that some media coverage by picketing at One Buc wouldn’t sway some decisions for Marty? I think anything is possible! A little added pressure by the media? Cmon. Someone has to love the Bucs enough and want Marty bad enough to organize this? Sander, how many fans on this site? Let’s do it!!
by gmaz1 on Jan 23, 2012 8:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good idea, let's send them a giant banner- saying hire Schotty!
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
I think a lot of us live in other states
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 23, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
by the time we formulate a date and time it will be over
if we agree on anything i think it’s that this will be over in the next few days
Even with media coverage?
You don’t think it will have any impact, Sander? I think if it’s down to their 2 favorite candidates and it’s close in any way, a little media coverage of fans picketing for Marty will impact and influence.
by gmaz1 on Jan 23, 2012 9:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You're right, gmaz.
You should totally go picket out there in the heat.
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
Heat, Kilgore?
R u serious? This weather is hot to u. That was a good try at being a wiseass, but not effective.
by gmaz1 on Jan 24, 2012 8:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Expect the unexpected
Based on what went down the last 24 hrs, all we can do is speculate. It’s obvious the Glazers beat to their own drum. They decide what gets leaked to media and what doesn’t. At this point, who really knows what will happen. I’ll take Marty all day. Sherman is very vanilla to me. Chud and Zim have a little excitement, but I don’t think they are the best choice. At the end of the day I want them to pick their best candidate and move forward. Time is running thin to prep for draft without clear direction of our offensive and defensive strategy. No more disappointments please.
by gmaz1 on Jan 23, 2012 8:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Maybe they are feeling him out for the OC position. That would be good.
I just have hard time with the fact the person Miami is wanting as an OC is who we are wanting as an HC. I do not question Sherman’s cred. as I have no doubt he would be a servicable coach here & bring a nice staff to boot.
should we accept it
i mean since dominick and sherman have the same agent is it inevitable
I don't think Sherman ends up with the job
the Glaziers know they have to excite the fans to win them back. The off season is too long for disgruntled fans to sit and feel down on there teams.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Joel Glazer said they wouldn't hire someone to excite the fans, because that only lasts so long
Winning is what gets the fans back eventually. They know that.
They can say whatever they want
The truth is, if they mess this up and hire a dud, the fans will completely lose interest. This hire needs to capture some attention.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
The fans will lose interest, until the team starts winning again
It’s that simple. Wins are what keeps fans interested in the end. Not a name.
I don't know about that.
The name comes before the winning. They would be off to a much better start if they hire someone that can bring excitement. At least the fans could begin to back the team sooner, rather than waiting for the wins to pile on.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but that excitement only lasts as long as the wins last
And the disappointment will last until the wins start. The effect of a name is short-lived. It’s not that relevant in making long-term decisions about the direction of the franchise.
i know what you're saying
the name isn’t important so much, I was just pointing out that a good hire would speed up the process of fans regaining their faith in the team and ownership again.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Offense sells tickets.
AHEM AHEM
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
2 less rookie-muffed punts and SF is in the Superbowl
and one shanked FG kept BAL out of it too. DEF is not dead – contrary to some beliefs here.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 23, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
A true FAN never loses interest
A true FAN is a Fanatic!!
It's 2009 all over again, "What the the Broncos want Raheem we better snap him up" 2012 "What the Dolphins want Sherman for OC,we better snap him up"
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 23, 2012 8:39 PM EST reply actions
they probably wont hire anybody for a couple more days.
but by the end of this week, they better have a HC in place.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Sherman probably wont be the only person scheduled for a second interview
you never know
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
no faith in the glazers to do anything right
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 23, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
well, they promised they would do their due diligence
and they are doing it. I’m glad it’s taken some time.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
i don't agree
i think chip kelly was a good move it would have brought alot of excitment, sold lots of tickets
That's because they're moving forward with the coaching search
They could sit around and mope too, I guess, but what good does that do?
Also, could you please drop the shorthand? It’s getting harder and harder to read.
any les miles rumors?
he would be an intresting candidate
no more college coaches please
lets keep it NFL only.
by number40ismyhero on Jan 23, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
His contract is bigger than Kelly's right?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Ehh, he would be fun in this league
Best ST in the league gets better
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Sherman just feels so stale....
What happened to inovative and Exciting!!!
he's the newt gingrich of coach candidates
meaning well take him over what we got (or had) but we’d rather have somthin better
analogy fail.
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
by Kilgore on Jan 24, 2012 5:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The head coach, whoever that turns out to be, is going to be tasked with building an entire staff.
The thing about a retread is that they’ve been in charge of a staff before. They know what they like and have the connections.
I know retreads are stale and boring, but I feel much more comfortable with Sherman or Marty putting together a staff than a former coordinator or someone with no NFL experience.
Who needs normal sleep patterns?
by AcadianTraverse on Jan 23, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
just read an article
in the cincy jungle that the bucs were scheduling 2nd interviews with zimmer , chud , sherman , childress and marty so i beleve one of these gentle men will be the next coach
1st thought:Chud and Zimmer!
2nd thought:Chilly?
3rd thought:Seriously Chilly? Maybe as OC but not HC.
No matter how much they are hyped, my teams always find a way to disappoint.
by thedudeofdudes on Jan 23, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
that's why i stopped by
surprised you guys hadn’t heard
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach and hiring Jack Del Rio as Defensive Coordinator. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
That's not what the article says at all
The article says that the Bucs are scheduling 2nd interviews, have done so with Mike Sherman and might do so with other coaches.
It is what Cincy Jungle was saying
but I think they completely misread the original article. As far as I see nobody but Sherman has a second interview yet, at least not that has become public.
it'd be nice
If we could interview Bruce Arians. I thought he worked well running the Steelers offense with Roethlisberger the last 3.
Go Magic/Bucs/Gators/Rays!
by chiefs_55 on Jan 24, 2012 1:11 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He just retired, doubt that would happen.
"I feel like I'm the best, but you're not going to get me to say that." - Jerry Rice
i like it
they’re just doing their due diligence here and bringing in seemingly everyone for a second round of interviews. we have a little bit more time than there has been in the past this offseason. i think it’s a couple of extra weeks or something like that. so i like the patience here. it’s clear what happens when you jump and miss on a head coach.
Well thats basically everyone they interviewed the first go around...
May aswell interview again, then possibly a third time…
Not a good hire
He really didn’t accomplish much in Green Bay. His record is misleading. If he was so outstanding don’t you think Mr. Favre would have done anything to keep him there? Treastman wouldn’t bother me so much. If the Glazers think that Sherman will sell tickets, they should realize that no one wanted him before the Bucs.
i dont agree
i think there will be a coach in place by the end of the week, i think they already know who they want, and since they want offensive minded its probly chud
i wish
i wish they’d give us some insight and say to the fans, our short list is. or its down to ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, you know what i mean
as a fan of another team (Bengals)
be thankful you guys didn’t land Kelly, there were already Spurrier comparisons from fans of other teams, it may have been good, but if it started going bad…
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach and hiring Jack Del Rio as Defensive Coordinator. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Chilly?
Yeah…let’s hire the guy that released Randy Moss without telling anyone else in the front office…including the owner
so if sherman was the first to be asked for a 2nd interview &
zimmer was 2nd does that say something, by this time tommorow i bet sherman is the new coach
Marty ball or bust!
The old man is the best of the bunch…..hes got swagger left! Maybe he gets a little frisky and opens up the offense. I thought his chargers team had a pretty potent attack!
im all for martyball
i just dont think the glazers are guna do it i wish they would, but somthin in my bucs tummy tells me ther goin vanilla with sherman
Yeah it would be surprising
Sherman is like that cat that wont go away…may aswell hire him.
isnt it odd
the chiefs, dolphins, rams, raiders, indy, jags,bucsall fired there coaches, and now just the raiderrs, bucs and indy havent hired there new coach, (and indy just fired there coach and are about to hire an new one) which leaves the radiers and bucs 2 of the most disfuntional teams in the league
well really what's the hurry?
It would be nice to have a new coach, but Free Agency hasn’t started and the draft is still a few month’s away.They dont want to rush into a coach just to please the fans.
No matter how much they are hyped, my teams always find a way to disappoint.
by thedudeofdudes on Jan 23, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
the quality assistants are being gobbled up
and we have no staff
Those teams also fired their coaches in the middle of the season too.
They kinda had a head start.
"I feel like I'm the best, but you're not going to get me to say that." - Jerry Rice
I'm really hoping for Z and Chud
But now any 1 of those guys as long as it isn’t Childress, PLEASE not Childress!
by TerenceJ11 on Jan 23, 2012 10:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
out of the bunch
i like chud and zimmer. maybe zimmer as hc and chilly as oc? he was a good coach with philly. i’m a little surprised nobody has brought in morninweg(sp?) the oc from philly for an interview. i know he failed in detroit, but who didn’t fail in detroit while millen was there?
Sherman wouldnt bea bad hire..
I mean I completely understand the fact that he isnt the “sexy” pick for the HC job but the guy has a good track record and has produced quality teams before, he’s very solid if unspectacualr to say the least but you know what you are gonna get with him. I must admit I would have loved the Chip hire though, yes there is a uncertainty about how his offense would translate but the pure fact that a new brand of offense would have been in Tampa not to mention being piloted by a fiery innovative coach, provided hours of “wishful thinking & imagination” on my part until the news broke early this morning.
Hue Jackson is a good OC
He is not a good HC.
He also has an unfortunate tendency to stab people in the back (see Tom Cable, Reggie McKenzie, Mark Davis, etc, etc).
Sander et Brucie et leecaz- update this to include the whole list of 2nd round coaching candidates
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 24, 2012 12:14 AM EST via Android app reply actions
This IS the whole list of 2nd round interviews
All Stroud said was that they could bring back anyone who’s had an interview.
Rick Stround sounds like MENSA material...
to determine that TB could bring back anyone who has had an interview – for a second one.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 24, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
That was just the recap of candidates for anyone
who isn’t paying close attention like we are. The story was that Sherman was getting a 2nd interview.
Don't get the support for Billick
I don’t see that he’s a better retread than Sherman, nor that his Superbowl win means anything to the Bucs that makes him preferable.
For a supposed offensive genius his ring came on the back of a magnificent defense and game managing offense. He never installed a high powered offense in his time with the Ravens so that doesn’t get me excited.
And to top it off didn’t he keep getting Freeman’s name wrong when analysing the Arizona game in 2010? Maybe my memory is wrong, but that doesn’t fill me with confidence about his preparedness either, which for me was the big issue with Rah/Olsen.
Personally, I’d rather give ‘oatmeal’ Sherman the job, but my memory could be playing tricks with me.
You should probably do a bit more digging on Billick
Because he was great in Minnesota as OC, took over a very defense heavy team and made Trent Dilfer look good in a Super Bowl win. I’d be very happy with Billick as our HC.
"I feel like I'm the best, but you're not going to get me to say that." - Jerry Rice
I'll go dig a bit then
I was looking at it more from a view that Baltimore’s offense never set the world alight, so why suppose the Bucs might if he became HC. His record as HC in that respect doesn’t warrant that expectation.
A bit like Gruden didn’t give us a great offense in all his years.
Maybe Billick would make a better OC?
Anyway, I was just saying that in my opinion (not worth much) I don’t see that great a difference between Sherman & Billick as HC, I am not opposed to either of them, I just don’t see anything that makes me think Billick, after several years as an analyst (not actively coaching) would be a great deal better than Sherman.
But that opinion is pre-digging.
Even if he was brought in as an OC, I would be happy.
He’s a teacher, loves the game and I think he could work wonders with Freeman.
"I feel like I'm the best, but you're not going to get me to say that." - Jerry Rice
There is a long, long list of coaching candidates on the Raiders blog
two names familiar, clements and chud, two name missing sherman and marty, also a lot of other names never even mentioned here.
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 24, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions
I hope the Glazers read this thread,
and realize how uninterested the fans are for the ‘Sherman’ hire. lol.
I seriously doubt if they care...
unless you bring your wallet. That seems to be the ONLY thing they care about.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 25, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Id rather have sherman because
there is alot worse out there like childress, yeah i would rather have marty aswell but i doubt the glazers would spend the bucks to get him.
So expect a bargain basement HC, my fingers and toes are still crossed we get marty

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