Entire Tampa Bay Buccaneers Coaching Staff Fired Including Greg Olson - Sweeping Changes Coming
by Sander on Jan 2, 2012 12:59 PM EST
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PrintPer Pewter Report, the entire coaching staff of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers has been fired as Raheem Morris was let go earlier today. That includes much-maligned offensive coordinator Greg Olson, veteran offensive line coach Pat Morris, and offseason hype machine/defensive line coach Keith Millard.
This shouldn't come as a shock, but it does mean the Bucs will have to massively overhaul their coaching staff this offseason. They not only need to find a new head coach, they also need to find a new offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator and position coaches. That means a major overhaul is coming, and the Bucs will need to make the right decisions to assemble a quality coaching staff.
Hiring an experienced head coach with an established network would help in re-building the current staff. The last time the Bucs tried to re-build their coaching staff, they hired Jeff Jagodzinski and Jim Bates as coordinators - both of whom were fired within a season. Raheem Morris did not apparently have the network to hire the 'right' coordinators at the time. If the Bucs want to avoid a scenario like that, they would do well to look at a coach with many connections within the coaching community.
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Glazers dropping the hammer...
and dropping it quickly – a good sign. My head is spinning with possibilities.
OC – You have Josh McDaniels out of work right now. Could be a great addition and a genius offensively. I like him as an OC candidate – not as a HC (at least not right now).
DC – Mike Spagnola out of work. Imagine bringing in Spags as DC, McDaniels as OC all working under Jeff Fisher – a stable and unemotional rock of a HC. Sweetness abounds.
that would be awesome
i hope our head coach just has head coaching duties not oc or dc. we need a triangle of coaches to have less on everyones shoulders
Agreed... and if anything was learned over the last 3 years
is that 3 hats – even just 2 hats in the modern NFL, is too much responsibility for anyone except the elite (Belichick)
I love the way you think (sometimes) Cracker, lol
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 2:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Stevie Spags, not Mikey Spags
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
who is mike spagnola?
any relation to steve?
Just back from my holidays and heard the good news.
They are keeping Dominique right?
Lets hope we get the right coach in and good Coordinators
Dom is a coward and a phony
I have no idea why everyone thinks he’s this rock star when he continually resigns scrubs to big money while failing to improve the roster overall.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
by freeman05 on Jan 2, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dom is just trying to survive this train-wreck...
and I am not completely anti-Dom. I have become tepid towards him. He certainly needs help evaluating the NFL F/A crop – as he has proven himself to be totally useless in that capacity.
How exciting for us all – a clean slate.
Also
I believe Dom put himself is a bad situation. It had to be a hard sell to bring in a free agent when HC is not proven on either side of the ball . The Bucs had no proven coordinators, That would be a hard sell to any top notch free agent
It would be a more difficult sell...
and that is the importance of a “name” coach. Young and hungry does not inspire any experienced OCs and DCs to come Tampas way. Gotta sell some tickets too.
The lack of discipline by Rah allowed our turnover ratio to go from +9 to -16. Bad. Our DEF sucks and Rah simply dug his own grave.
He's not a coward or a phony, He's an idiot
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 2, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you nailed it.
and with just learning that Bill Polian was fired in Indy.
I wouldn’t mind seeing him come in and replace Dominik.
at least he could attract Free agents and draft.
if thats the case sander.
Then it sounds like we will be hiring a retread. The only retreads I would want than would be bill cowher
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 1:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
How does Sander know anything at all about who the Bucs are hiring? It's fun and easy to speculate, but he has NO idea what their planning to do...
Why would we even want a re-tread? Look at Carolina, NO, and ATL they got hot coordinators and made them “their” guy. I don’t want anyone with an ego that feels his body of work will carry him like Shannahan. Only re-tread I’d even hope we consider would be Andy Reid. We should get someone that can get Freeman to hit his full potential first and foremost.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I wasnt implying that he new everything.
Font think he was implying that either. Seemed more like s suggestion to me.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 2:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Unless someone is a first time coach, they are all retreads.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
i dont want Cower,
He has been out of football for 4 years, to me that is just to long, and just because u get a high priced HC doesn’t mean we will be better (Shanahan). Loook at the saints and packers they didnt go after big names and now they are some of the best coaches out there.
Then again anyone is better than the “Dream”.
i think cowher will straighten some of these players out. I can see us playing way more physical on defense i'd love cowher to coach down here
my only concern would be the scheme that he would run
Cowher ran a 3-4 but LeBeau truly ran the defense all those years in Pittsburgh
Cowher was the leader, motivator, and well yeah he was much better than what we had in Morris….
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I would tske cowher in a new york minute.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 2:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Damn Jags already asking permission to speak with Chudzinski
Chud would be one of my three finalist. Chud, NE OC, or GB QB coach are my three hopefuls.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
ne oc is obrien correct?
penn st. wants him. i believe he will go there
Yeah Bill O'Brien just thought it would be easiest to call him NE OC ha
man I grew up 40 mins of Penn State and it’s not the dream college position many would think. Joe Paterno was the perfect man for that job, seriously State College PA is in the middle of the woods, no top prospects are trying to go to PSU. We get some good kids, but never elite. I think our position is much better than the PSU job.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
yeah for sure
tarnished is putting it lightly my man.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I do not want another position coach
and I seriously doubt the Glazers would go that route after Morris.
I think he was talking about Green Bay's quarterback coach.
by flash_kiley on Jan 2, 2012 1:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
My bad and I see where you are coming from...
GB QB coach as offensive coordinator sure wouldn’t hurt though.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I think it would be a sick upgrade to Olson...
I’d love to see Free out of the shotgun where he’s most comfortable, four wide sets with tons of speed
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
This is crazy.
I didn’t see this happening today. We need to get the new staff asap.
by flash_kiley on Jan 2, 2012 1:26 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Lets just hire Gruden.......
I know we will never hire him but he is a good coach, but just awful at finding talent and drafting.
gruden can coach!!!!
But he is one of the worse talent evaluators I have ever seen, hands down.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 1:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Gruden as HC and Dom evaluating talent...
It won’t happen, but it should have back in 2009. The Glazers basically flushed 3 years of fan support right down the toilet. Pity…
Gruden hides behind a tough attitude..
but definitely didnt do anything possitive after the superbowl… it was dungys D that led that team.. gruden needs to stay a commentator
Gruden did not have a level playing field...
as our next 2 1st Round picks went to OAK as compensation. Gruden was already in the hole. With a stronger GM, I believe he could have done well here. Certainly should have let him play out his contract.
Just for fun, I looked up our 2004 NFL Draft results – our first full draft under Gruden. No wonder we struggled. What a bunch of losers our GM selected. Gruden had NO chance to re-build that way.
How about mike fartz, I mean Mike Martz
he has done a good job with Cutler, and knows the division.
God no, He will kill freeman with this semi-terrible OL
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 2, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Forget Gruden
He proved completely incapable of molding his schemes and gameplans to the talent he had, let alone finding and drafting the talent he needed. Those touting his greatness seem ignore the last 5 years he spent coaching.
Gregg William from NO
He might be able to bring Carmicheal as OC
Agreed
He’s a lot like Mularkey, i.e. the fans of their teams want him hired as a HC so they can get someone new as their coordinator.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
Wow I was about to type this.
beat me to it :)
by flash_kiley on Jan 2, 2012 1:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It's been a while since I posted but...
What if Tony Dungy came back to coach? He gave John Gruden the tools to win a Super Bowl and is loved by the fan base. He has the connections around the league to bring in major coordinators and could fix the franchise.
Why would Dungy go from a perrenial Super Bowl contender
to this garbage?
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
Because he's done it before
Saved us from a miserable situation and delivered unto the Bucs the 1997-2002 roster of awesomeness. His only problem was dealing with an ownership that wanted more explosive offenses…
Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
Tony Dungy has consistently said he's done as a head coach
And unlike some retired coaches, Dungy doesn’t seem like the kind to break his word there.
hes also said that
he has received calls from virtually every open job in the NFL and NCAA so even if he was considering coaching, deffinitly would not be here..
Tony wont coach again
If he had any desire to coach he would go back to Indy and Manning
Do people not remember Tony packing his office in the rain?
Why would he ever work for the Glazers again
Unless as part of the deal the Glazers stood in the snow barefoot for five days...
…it’s a tad Dark Ages, true, but if Henry II could do it…
Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
I hope we get fisher
I think he is the type of guy that can get the most out of our current roster! A big fear of mine is when we get a new coach, many coaches want THEIR players playing so that means new QBs, n Such, but i like Freeman; So i hope Fisher looks at our roster and see’s what I see, a bunch of talented kids who need to grow up a little bit……..
Fisher is boring.... Not so sure he's that great of a candidate
but I wouldn’t be opposed if he could land us some stud coordinators
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
lets just get weird
HC –
OC -
DC – Spag
QB- Haley
OL – Sparano
LB – Del Rio
just need a few more firings to happen (turner can be our oc) and then whoever we want at hc
I don't know why so many people are so vehemently opposed to a 'retread'
Bill Belichick is a retread. How’s he been doing for the past decade?
NFL coaching is something that is learned and improved upon with experience. Guys make mistakes, learn from those mistakes, and build on them. There’s no reason to believe some of the ‘retread’ candidates can’t be better than they were in their previous stops. There’s also plenty of reasons to see why some good coordinators (spags, wade philips, mangini) make lousy coaches.
Means he already led an NFL team and was fired
like us bringing in Jack Del Rio or Norv Turner as HC…
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I don't think anyone actually believes we'd bring in Jack Del Rio as a head coach
At least be realistic.
by J_B on Jan 2, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I was making examples that are somewhat current
not saying I believe JDR is our next head coach bro
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
This article doesn't address the fact that many of the teams these guys came back to coach
were extremely poor, and would’ve won maybe even more games with 1st time coaching candidates.
by J_B on Jan 2, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
If the teams were bound to fail with a retread or a 1st time coaching candidate
I think that serves as a significant mitigating source. It’s really a pour source of evidence then. The team’s failure is just as much because of their talent, as it is of their head coach, so the added variable really mitigates the correlation between retreads and their failures.
by J_B on Jan 2, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, but these are a lot of head coaches
Not all of them went to bad teams. A lot of them got a long time to re-build teams, too. Only Vermeil ever really did.
why ? they are not the ones playing the game.
some coaches can take an off year or 4 and im sure some of them would benefit from it. i think dungy is an amazing coach and of course hes not coming back but i have no doubt in my mind hes still a great coach.
I know but just because u bring a big name coach does not translate to win for sure.
u can find gems who were coordinators and HC.(McCarthy, Payton, Smith aint half bad either
I'd take any of those three coaches
which is why I say no re-tread, get us a coach that really wants to make the Bucs “his” team
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
How Dominick avoided the can is beyond me. His handling of the linebacking corp alone should be grounds for firing.
Quincy Black for $26mill?!?!? PIssing off Geno in the process? Mason Foster to start? Horrible.
How about D. Brooks for a linebackers coach at least?
by playjoyce on Jan 2, 2012 1:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Bowers and Clayborn probably bought him at least another year
there’s also no way to know if those were Dom’s decision or whether the Glaziers had some say in them.
by J_B on Jan 2, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully with the nuking of the coaching staff Dom will learn that this kind of losing wont be tolerated.
And he may be more likely to make a splash in free agency or a trade to help this team win now and upgrade the talent.
by flash_kiley on Jan 2, 2012 2:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think he knows he's on the hot seat
Unfortunately the FA splash will have more to do with the Glaziers than it will with Dom. I highly doubt Dom would be opposed to signing some big name FAs, especially knowing his job is on the line and continued failure would result in his termination.
by J_B on Jan 2, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
^ Yes This ^ Dominik is a coward
that threw Rah right under the bus. How many players do you think have any trust left for him now? My guess is not many.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
by freeman05 on Jan 2, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How is he a coward?
The bucs lost 10 straight games. The team quit in more than half of them, and were blown out in at least 6 of them. There’s no way Raheem could’ve stayed.
by J_B on Jan 2, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
No, Rah lost the team and ultimately did have to go but the way Dominik was "married" to his man Raheem...
You don’t think Dom had the power to go and hire a defensive coordinator or competent offensive coordinator?
I call him coward b/c when things were all sunny and peachy we got a press conference from him every week. Remember over the summer when he said he put together the most physical physically imposing Bucs team ever? Now when things aren’t looking so good, we never hear from him. He hides in his office, and wears binoculars and a head set…. Cowardly
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
Dominik never came out and said anything negative about Raheem
What part of that is throwing him under the bus?
By allowing him to twist in the wind and not puttin him out of his misery
mid season. Now we have the stench of a ten game losing streak, and Rah Mo adds this to his resume. Dom could’ve given a statement at some point but chose to hide behind his binoculars and head set.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
And we would've won games if Greg Olson was the head coach?
We had no even remotely acceptable fill in for Raheem. If anything, by not firing him mid season, they gave him and the players the chance to turn things around and finish on a positive note. I could actually make the argument that canning Raheem prematurely would’ve been distasteful. You can’t argue that by letting him finish out the season, they actually disrespected him though.
by J_B on Jan 2, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
No never said I wanted Ollie to be the interim head coach...
You all put all the blame on Morris all you want, but lets just see what happens next year. Not that it matters b/c the majority of you don’t go to the games anyway.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
The Glazers and local media have...
You don’t count as media either
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
not true
in past hames most of this room alone blame morris (myself included)
but i consistently stood and called out Dominik too , he should’ve been fired as well.
inexcusable.
I'm not putting all the blame on Morris
He was set up to fail. There was no way a 1st time head coach with 0 coordinating experience and no defensive coordinator could succeed with an incredibly young team that is fairly weak on talent.
Raheem never wanted a DC though. He was adamant about doing that job himself. He failed at his job and the team quit. THere was really only one decision that could be made, and he had to go.
by J_B on Jan 2, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Dom was exercising his option of self-preservation...
but is as guilty as Raheem for our slide. Doms job was to “stock the cupboard” with talent and Rahs job was to coach ’em up.
They both sucked – yet Dom stays. No one said life was fair.
Maybe b/c a real man would own up to his mistakes...
Rah took everything from the fans when realistically Dom should’ve addressed the situation at some point. Instead he saves himself and allows Morris to be his fall guy. Trust is a one time thing, once it is compromised it’s never the same. I now feel that Dominik is all smoke and mirrors.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
Dom, no doubt, made some...
“I promise to do better” statement behind the Glazers closed doors. Let’s see if it happens.
Dom sucks at the evaluation/signing of NFL F/As, he also sucks at handing out contract extensions and his 2009-2011"Uber" drafting is beginning to look pretty mortal. That is roughly 75% of his job description, and he looks pretty suspect.
I hope the Glazers recognize these facts – and get him some help. Stat.
thank you cb maybe coward is going a bit far
but where I’m from we call a spade a spade… and what I envision is like you said cracker ball
Dom pleaded to the Glazer’s that this was Morris and the coaching, and not the lack of talent. He stabbed his boy right in the back to save himself. Some here might respect that, but in my eyes that isn’t leadership.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
where have you read thatdom said that this
Was all rahs fault. Sorry, I disagree with you. You shouldn’t make comments and state them as facts without backing it up. As far as we know, dom could have told the blazers that rah should be retained.
One more thing. Please lets leave the remarks about who attends home games out if here. I for one go to at least one game a year, more if I have the money to do so. I m sure others here go if they can too. Just sayin!!!!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 2:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Where did I state a comment as a fact?
Crackerball also never said it was a fact, so get your own facts straight before calling us out. If Dom felt Morris should be retained, don’t you think he might’ve said something throughout the year to instill a sense of confidence?
About attending games, my point is that you only see what Fox shows you unless we’re in a primetime game. I saw Foster warming up hours before the rest, trying to get himself ready to play. I saw the open receivers that Freeman missed.
I think I see more of the field than do the people that rely on first row and other illegal streams. Streamers only help aid the blackouts, which ultimately hurts the team overall. Seriously our home field advantage is pathetic, especially compared to NO and AtL
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
thats deffinitly true but theres plently of die hard fans like me
who live far away and cant go to the games, if i lived in tampa id be there as much as possilbe. but i have to stream. although i guess u were directing those comments towards ppl in the tampa area…
I was in your same boat BucShot, moved here from PA
and yes the people that know more than everyone else. When they admittedly have never played one snap in their entire life at any level, do not attend any games, and only see what they see in their stream.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I was refering to your comment
That dom should have defended raheem, we don’t know that he didn’t unless you know something we don’t. I agree that dom should have been more vocal this year, but you generally don’t see GMs say to much.
As far as game attendence, people choose to go, not go for a variety if reasons. I applaud the fact that you attend the games. I myself went to the lions game. However, being unemployed for 5 months didn’t help me. Because I love my bugs so much and couldn’t attend anymore games I resorted to the Internet because of the outdated and ridiculous blackout rule. I don’t feel guilty whatsoever watching my favorite team on the crummy computer when that is the only way that I can.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 2:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i also live out of town in the east central florida
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 3:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Obviously when one man fires another man
that usually indicates that the man that fired the other felt they weren’t doing their jobs? Or does that make no sense to you, and I made that up? Go log back in as another name and try to discredit me all you want, I’m off today and have nothing better to do until the press conference.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
Today is a joyous day!
The first day in the rest of your Buc life…
Embrace and love thy BUC brother!
Thanks cracker ball.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 3:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
not a problem sander, was just trying to see where he was coming from
Then he started getting personal… I will be the better man and drop it right here. Cya
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 3:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Freeman05.
I want to apologize to you for my comments. I had no intention nor did I realize I was offending you.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 3:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I remember lines from Dom like....
I’ve built the most physical, physically imposing team in Buccaneer history.
I’m going big back hunting, b/c we’re going to run the ball and open up playaction to take shots down the field.
It’s all about 5, we’re going to continue to surround him with talent he can grow with… Luke Stocker and Kregg Lumpkin, gee thanks Dom you really brought in some winners there. In Dom’s eyes I wonder if Lumpy has more potential than Sproles long term b/c I do not understand his contradictory remarks.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
Oh god
You guys sound like a bunch of clucking hens.
by Benjamin Patterson on Jan 2, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Any coach that comes into this situation is going to fail until the Glazers open up the wallet for players..
We’re falling into the trap. They knew that no fans would show up next year unless they did something and the cheapest thing to do is hire a new coach. That is probably why they have an interest in Tressel; he’ll be cheap, but people know his name.
OMG you have got to be kidding me that we're even thinking about
Jim Tressel? No,no,no Jim Tressel
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
the sweater vest alone is enough for me to say no. lol
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Tressel has a bad rep
but if you think he’s one of the only college coaches to really skew the line of questionable/inappropriate coaching decisions, then your severely mistaken. He just got caught. I’m not advocating we sign Tressel, just saying. Destroying tressel for what happened is almost like destroying arod for taking steroids when everyone in MLB was doing it.
by J_B on Jan 2, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, have to be ruthless and do some skeevy things as a good college head coach
I don’t know if blackmailing players is part of that, though.
I think every single college head coach has those
The difference lies mostly in which get caught.
But maybe I’m a little too cynical there.
no, you're being exactly cynical
the whole college football system is corrupt. It’s a pity I like being a Gators and Bulls fan, but then again it makes me more passionate about reforming the damnable thing.
Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
Are the recruiting violations committed by the HC...
or some slimy boosters outside the HCs knowledge. To the NCAA – it does not matter. It happened on the HCs watch and that is that.
Take U of Memphis basketball. John Calipari KNEW what was going on, so he simply leaves for KEN and Memphis gets the shaft. Things like that will continue until the NCAA punishes both the HC and the school.
I'm not really defending it
just saying there’s a lot of sketchy stuff that goes down. And a lot of stuff we don’t know about. From a pure coaching perspective, you could make the argument that he did have success from a W-L perspective. For the record I wouldn’t be happy if we hired him.
by J_B on Jan 2, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah, recruiting stuff is always dirty
It’s all about the bottom line. And he has had a lot of success in his career. Question in college is always: what part of that is recruiting? Because that’s not a relevant skill in the NFL.
Very True
and Ohio state the brand obviously does a fair amount of recruiting for itself. I’ve never really been a fan of college coaches in the NFL, for every Harbaugh there’s about 5 Nick Sabans.
by J_B on Jan 2, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Being from the north originally
Ohio State and Michigan sell themselves to any kid that doesn’t want to go far from home. PA and NY recruits usually always have Ohio State as one of their final choices
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I'm not saying anything about his rep...
I’m just not sold of Tressels overall ability compared to others
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
Do you think that our current players would respect someone like Tressel?
I think that anyone who comes in here will have to install a one-strike policy with Talib, Jackson and others. If the players have no fear for their job, then they have no motivation to maintain decorum.
I almost wonder if Singletary would work here.
Singletary? Please, no
He thinks it’s still 1985. “Just pound the ball up the middle and PLAY HARD RAAAAARRRR”
Singletary and his great quote...
Can’t play with em, can’t coach em, can’t win with em rant directed at Vernon Davis the consumate professional. No thanks.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
In Singletarys defense...
he certainly lit a fire under Vernon Davis. He has been all-world since.
by Cracker Ball on Jan 2, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
maybe as DL or LB coach only.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 2:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can't wait till he makes Mason Foster the next Patrick Willis
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 2, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
or Defensive Coordinator
gotta admit, his defenses were strong.
would love to see him light a fire under our young DLs
I'm going to have nightmares tonight of sweater vest with buccaneer logos on them
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions
Hmm sweater vests in Tampa heat
He might switch to tank tops. :)
by flash_kiley on Jan 2, 2012 2:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Tressel in a wife beater? I think I would go blind if i saw that
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Tressel would be the worst possible choice IMHO
1) he lied to investigators;
2) he bullied players;
3) he coached for Ohio State. The only thing more horrifying than that would be if he coached Notre Dame…
Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
Kudos to Morris for having class on the way out.
He knew it was coming.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Yep
Classy comments. I still think he’ll be a good head coach at some point. This just wasn’t his time.
by Sander on Jan 2, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
High School head coach maybe
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
more than likely a DC or Defensive Backs coach in college
get a few more years under the belt as a coordinator, like he should have before the Glazers jumped the gun.
Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
Yeah I do agree he was in ove his head...
but he did get a raw deal here…
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I don't blame Rah for taking the HC job: I blame the Glazers for promoting him too fast too soon
All because Raheem was on Denver’s list of HC interviewees…
Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
And at that point most likely to serve the Rooney rule and only to interview
a minority coach. I don’t think we were ever in any danger of losing Morris. Looking back I also hated the Morris hiring at the time but he grew on me. Hope he does find success in his future endeavors but as a fan I can only hope for improvement
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
Definitely agree
you can’t take a guy who has 0 coordinating experience and expect him to run a young team and do so successfully. If your on the board of a corporation, you don’t promote a junior executive to CEO simply because you don’t wanna lose him to a competitor. You would’ve though the glaziers would have realized this.
by J_B on Jan 2, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
The Glazer's only realized that Rah would be just thrilled to get the job
and would allow them and Dom to walk all over him. Now that they see the cheap method won’t work they will probably start spending. Dom at this point better start, can’t wait for the press conference.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
He was set up to fail
but he also didn’t exactly ask for any life preservers. Adamantly saying he didn’t need a DC is fine, but when the defense went from good/average to one in the bottom half of the league and eventually one of the worst, your pretty much done.
by J_B on Jan 2, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
i like raheem...
he tried to show his losing GM that he had what it took to disipline the team.. he sent players home in the middle of the game because of unsportsmanlike conduct penalties hurting possible comebacks.. the matter of fact is though that the extreme fall from one in the division to 5th pick in the draft means that there is no other options.. the problem with the team majorly is turnovers.. allllooot of fumbles.. noones handled the rock the way they should
The coaching situation will most likely be resolved by the incoming Head Coach...
…who is going to want people he knows/trusts, rather than accepting the coaching staff chosen by the GM or owners.
Figuring out who the top five coaching contenders would help, by looking at who they worked with before.
Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
JimTressel?
Are yall serious. Sweatervest won at Ohio State due to having some of the best talent in the country coming in year in and year out. Ohio State consistently had a Top 5-Top 10 recruiting class during his tenure. I’d even go as far to say that Ohio State has better depth and talent at some positions than the Bucs do. My point is what can Tressel do with mediocre talent in the big leagues? He barely was getting it done in college with top notch talent.
mediocre talent?
in the nfl theres no such thing.. its simply that tampa is the worst of the best… theres unsung talent everywhere you look though.. tons of potential! that was raheems problem though.. potential doesnt win games
if Tressel becomes HC, then i'm out.
seriously. This man is a horrible personnel person, not much of a leader as opposed to be a bully, and that mentality does fly in the NFL. I’d be obliged to be a Saints fan just out of spite.
I'd take Mike Adams over Trueblood
and probably Devier Posey over Rejus Benn
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
so now what? this big debate on our next coach. I hope this happens quickly.
I believe it will be fisher
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
by dcbucsfan on Jan 2, 2012 2:41 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I really hope it's not Fisher
please bring us someone from GB, NO, or NE (offensive side)
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
the bucs need a good d
start where theres problems.. no offense can come back from a 42-0 deficit. THEN work on moving the ball down the field…
42-0 happened partially because Freeman decided to go throw that pick
and than fumble the ball a few drives later…
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
offense contributed with the 42 points given up
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
by dcbucsfan on Jan 2, 2012 3:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Coming from a fan of the team that had Fisher for the entirety of his career..
I hope you like field goals.
[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]
I has a sad. Its name is Eugene Amano.
by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 2, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
I like Mike Sherman
He had 5 good seasons in GB, he was in the playoffs 4 years of 6 he had I think 2 division titles an I think he would come in here an right the ship for us I like him as HC
by Benjamin Patterson on Jan 2, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Sherman's a good choice.
but then the question becomes: do we stay withfreeman, or go after Mike Flynn?
Also, I can tell you the answer to any "will the Bucs replace Freeman" questions
That answer is no. Too much invested, much too soon to give up. It’s not happening.
But... if Freeman continues to struggle
a Plan B needs to be formulated. Freeman is a huge investment, but there is no point in lashing yourself to the anchor.
Sure
I can see the Bucs making a move if he doesn’t improve next season. I can’t see a move being made earlier than 2013.
As I said earlier...
if a Kellen Moore can be taken late, locked in as the 3rd QB, and allowed to learn and develop there can be no harm in that. We still need a legit veteran back-up, with the ability to win if called upon. JJ was never that kind of QB.
im also hearing mike mularkey?
not really sure if he’d be a good fit though? seems like one of those guys whos a much better co-ordinator than HC
There's a consensus in Falcons land that Mularkey is.. well...
Malarkey.
[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]
I has a sad. Its name is Eugene Amano.
by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 2, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We Mularkey was HC in buffalo we was average
but he never had true talent there at the time.
not sure what he would bring to a rebuilding Bucs team
3:00 PM Press Conference
I know it will be streaming on Buccaneers.com
Does anyone in the Tampa Bay area know if there will be any local television stations covering the press conference?
"Geno Hayes sucks though
He is one notch above Sabby Piscatelli
by Sveet on Dec 1, 2009 12:34 PM EST"
question
sorry im not in the area.. my question is- why do you think geno hayes sucks? mason foster is an incredible talent and all three linebackers are nowhere to be seen when backs run between the tackles.. the scheme will get corrected and all three will increase
That is a quote
I like Geno Hayes … That is more to show that Sveet (the person that made the comment) is not a great evaluator of talent.
I thought the comment was so outrageous I made it my signature so that everyone can see how ridiculous it was.
Geno is a great talent I have been watching him as a Noles fan for years.
"Geno Hayes sucks though
He is one notch above Sabby Piscatelli
by Sveet on Dec 1, 2009 12:34 PM EST"
by PewterPirate55 on Jan 2, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
FOR THOSE INTERESTED
Bay news 9 on brighthouse will carry the presser live
"Geno Hayes sucks though
He is one notch above Sabby Piscatelli
by Sveet on Dec 1, 2009 12:34 PM EST"
by PewterPirate55 on Jan 2, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
rumor has it they are in talks
with Mouse Davis!!!!
Beware!!
by Creamsicle Power on Jan 2, 2012 2:50 PM EST reply actions
who?
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
look it up
how can you have a John McKay and Lee Roy pic and not know Mouse Davis is beyond me.
Beware!!
by Creamsicle Power on Jan 2, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
you think an 80 year old guy is a good fit?
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
You are the author that wrote Raheem coached Aqib Talib in college
correct?
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I know it showed up in the area c/b
meant for someone else… Who will now go and edit their mistake, and claim I just made everything up…
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
Yes
I have no idea what he’s talking about. I remember writing at some point that Morris coached against Talib, which he did. Maybe I mistyped or something. Mistakes slip in. If he’d point it out, I could correct it – which only helps.
Ok I'll play along, how about Doug Williams
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
only if the QB coach is
Randy Hedberg
Beware!!
by Creamsicle Power on Jan 2, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
okay, stand still while we throw a large wooden rabbit at you
Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
Sander
right or wrong, you reported that Raheem coached Aqib Talib in college right?
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I already answered this
I did not ever ‘report’ that. If I did write that in an article, then that was a mistype. I do remember writing that he coached against Aqib in college.
I remember that article & am pretty sure I remember
you stating he coached AGAINST Talib. At least that is how I took it. I don’t post here much, but read literally every article, pretty much every fan post & almost every comment.
by RuudAwakening on Jan 2, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Next coach up.
The Glazers dropped the hammer and showed that this type of meteoric regression is unacceptable, now I’m more interested in the next coach that they hire. It will show the amount of personal investment that they have in the Buccaneers franchise as opposed to Manchester United. I have respect for Coach Morris, but this move had to be made. I’m chomping at the bit for the next coaching staff and for the Bucs to draft Trent Richardson.
by TB86 on Jan 2, 2012 3:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
hiring moves come
after the super bowl.
That’s when defections come and money overrides team loyalty.
Plus they’re come at a pretty high price.
Beware!!
by Creamsicle Power on Jan 2, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
The Glazers started all this...when they hired an unproven assistant
…without even coaching a day as a coordinator. I agree with you about Trent Richardson.
who's going to the NFL draft in new York
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
by dcbucsfan on Jan 2, 2012 3:14 PM EST via Android app reply actions
how would one get tickets
im interested. from NY and never been :(
go the day before and stand on line. they give them out.
I was there two years ago. even got on camera
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
by dcbucsfan on Jan 2, 2012 3:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think Lamar Miller in rd 2
provides us a better value than Trent with our fifth pick
Miller's available in round 2 in the mock I'm currently working on
But so is someone else who I think we’d be ever happier to see drop down the boards. I swear I didn’t plan it out. Will post when I’m done with round 3, probably this evening.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
I'm ready for a surprise or two
What’s your take on Lavonte David? I’ve seen him mocked all over the place, from end of the first round to the 4th round.
I really like what I've seen of him watching the Cornhuskers this year
Definitely a ballhawk and playmaker, and the dude knows how to tackle. But I think people are doing the same thing with him that was happening with Dennard earlier this year: mocking him too us because “we like him” regardless of needs/value looking at the larger picture. I think he’s likely a mid-to-late second rounder at top, who could potentially fall to the late third or fourth. Less likely he’ll fall because of the weakness of the LB position in FA this year.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
The Dennard guy was kicked out of the Cap One Bowl
for taking two swings at Alshon Jeffrey. He would fit in nicely with our current roster.
Just curious
Why kuechler and not zach brown? The guys athleticism is great. If we could just pick up a good veteran linebacker in FA, pay him a fair amount of money to help us for one year, and help show these young guys the ropes…
I see where you're coming from
But does he have the speed to make plays in the NFL? He’s project at to be 4.7. That’s only average in comparison.
Kuechly? I don't know about him, really
Haven’t watched him much, yet. Wouldn’t worry too much about speed at middle linebacker, though.
Well I'll tell you
He made a boat load of tackles on a defense that was sub-par. He’s made his bones chasing around that speedy ACC talent. Good but his tackle totals get him the buzz he’s been getting.
by GoBuxGo on Jan 2, 2012 5:34 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I know nothing about Kuechly...
…I know he’s an undersized middle LBer playing at Boston College. That’s it. I know that Rook is very high on him and thinks he would solidify our defense. I’m not sold…
Haven't seen him play either
Just keep reading about his intelligence and instincts. Which I know is key for a middle linebacker. Reading about him though, he sounds like another Ruud. Not saying anything bad about Ruud. I actually liked him.
I still think we land Richardson
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
by dcbucsfan on Jan 2, 2012 3:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Strategically is possibly the hardest thing to do in this FA
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 2, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
It's a distinct possibility
But I still think there other players who should be ranked higher on our board.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
The trade wrinkle regarding STL/MIN and the availbility of RG3...
makes a Kalil or Claiborne a possibility. I agree that those two I just mentioned should be ranked higher than Richardson on our board – but as they disappear, the plot thickens.
true.
however our spot in the draft and the talent available we may be stuck with getting him. and a cb or lb in the 2nd
ALL ABOARD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
There are worse fates to suffer- he's an enormous prospect
It’s just hard to see a RB going #5 overall.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
I like your tenacity
…you’re gonna preach Trent Richardson until the cows come home. Keep it up. TR is special.
Any truth to the rumor
The Glazers and Jeff Fischer stayed in the same hotel in Atlanta over the weekend? I saw this as a comment on another blog and wondered if someone here could validate it?
"Geno Hayes sucks though
He is one notch above Sabby Piscatelli
by Sveet on Dec 1, 2009 12:34 PM EST"
Jeff Fisher stayed at the same hotel as the team this past weekend
Fisher was there because his son played in a bowl game there. According to Peter King, he never met with the Bucs.
Thanks
I was just wondering as a Bucs fan you know hope springs eternal
"Geno Hayes sucks though
He is one notch above Sabby Piscatelli
by Sveet on Dec 1, 2009 12:34 PM EST"
by PewterPirate55 on Jan 2, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
after watching that press conference
I am of the opinion that mark Dominic has to go now!!!!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 3:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
What makes you say that?
Not trying to call you out, I watched the PC too & just wondering your take on it.
by RuudAwakening on Jan 2, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
when he hesitated ehen asked if he would
Recede control to a HC candidate who may want full control. Unless I heard the question wrong, not sure. His demenor to that question bade me nervous.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 3:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He probably just wants to keep a job
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 2, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
If the Glazers tell him to cede control, he will
I am not a fun of head coaches with personnel control, though.
Sander... you should try to make the DAL away game.
We can tour Big D, enjoy some mexican girls food and raise some general hell.
He was a bit hesitent on that one, of course that is to be expected due to the nature of the question.
It was an interesting question, & to me I liked his answer. However, I question his honesty in that answer. It was a tough question & for now I will give him the benefit of the doubt & say he will do what it takes to land a good HC.
by RuudAwakening on Jan 2, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
I hope so ruud.
I may have been into it to much. I did however like the question. I agree sander, have never been a fan of HC and GM being combined. Hope it doesn’t happen here.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 4:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dominik should've been gassed as well.
his inability (and unwillingness) to land FAs and evaulate talent is a very bad sign.
I dunno...
I can kind of understand where he was coming from when he said it would have been tough to bring in a FA and get him working with us without an off season. I’m not saying he was right, but I can understand his concern there. Also the fact that the team WAS 10-6 last year, and although not a strong 10-6, with the young talent we had, it was easy to expect us only to get better. I’d also like to point out the way Joel handled the question when asked about the whole FA thing. It almost seems like its the Glazers who don’t agree with bringing in FAs. I’m pretty sure it’s all of them who work together to come up with these plans. Dom isn’t necessarily the bad guy here.
It was just the reluctance that hurt.
it was the sheer inability to sway quaility FAs too.
and you always ahve ti improve winning record or not. look at the so called “model” the pats.
they aquire both FAs and draft pick , and always stay competitive. not one extreme or the other.
So when i hear quotes stating that we’re going to follow that model, it makes me ill, cause in order to do that. the front office has to step up in FA too.
and Dom is showing that he is unwilling/ incapable of doing that.
im in agreement with the answer to the FA question.
I certainly hope and expect this team to entertain offering FAs contracts this offseason. We need some vocal veteran leaders on thus leaderless team!!!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 7:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If we don't want any SuperBowl coach defectors
then we can also consider hiring Woody Widenhofer.
He’s a good ’ol FL boy.
Beware!!
by Creamsicle Power on Jan 2, 2012 3:30 PM EST reply actions
I hope we have a new HC in place...
long before the Superbowl. Lots of very good options out there and we need to start adding all the assistants – plus the all important OC and DC.
Don’t sit on your hands Glazers – that position has not served you well of late.
Just got home from work and saw the good news
Party at the moontower!!!!!!(dazed and confused quote)
anybody else having a problem
watching the press conference video on buccaneers.com?
Excited
Hope we bring in a good hc who people want to come work for.
by lorigfan44 on Jan 2, 2012 4:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
LMJ Showcase is on right now
And keep an eye on Paulson the TE for Oregon, he’s another gamer.
by GoBuxGo on Jan 2, 2012 5:06 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Jimmy Johnson dude.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
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