Raheem Morris Fired by Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by Sander on Jan 2, 2012 11:53 AM EST
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PrintIt's the end of an era: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have just fired head coach Raheem Morris. Per Adam Schefter, the Bucs also relieved Morris' staff of his duties, which would presumably include OC Greg Olson and any assistant coaches.
The third-year coach ends his tenure with 17 wins and 31 losses. Having posted a 10-6 record in his second season as a head coach, a 10-game losing streak to end the 2011 season led to his firing. At the end of his tenure the Bucs had completely broken down: penalties, turnovers, an inability to tackle, blown coverages and a lack of effort were all problems during the final games of Morris reign as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' head coach.
When Raheem Morris was hired, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers wanted to rejuvenate the team and the fanbase. The Bucs had become an aged and largely talentless team, and Morris and GM Mark Dominik tried to overhaul the roster. This started with Morris himself, who was a defensive backs coach just one month before being elevated to the position of head coach.
Selecting quarterback Josh Freeman as the cornerstone of the franchise, the Bucs steered away from free agency and tried to build a team through the draft. Losing was the immediate result, and it was ultimately the end result of Morris' tenure. A 10-6 season in 2010 gave Bucs fans hope that the youthful plan was working, but a brutal 2011 season seems to have crushed any excitement among the fan base.
Despite a lack of talent being a clear culprit in the Bucs' losing skid, Mark Dominik was retained as the Buccaneers' general manager per Stephen Holder - although things could always change in the future. Dominik was given a four-year contract extension before the 2011 season.
The Bucs will start their head coaching search today. Jeff Fisher was recently linked to the Bucs as he was spotted at a team hotel, though he reportedly never met with the Buccaneers. Other names that will undoubtedly come up include Bill Cowher, Mike Sherman and Rob Chudzinski. We have written profiles on a few possible candidates, and will continue to look at different candidates over the next weeks.
With that, Raheem Morris' tenure comes to an end and a new era can begin for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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Great news!!!!Now the search for a resl coach can begin.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 11:53 AM EST via mobile reply actions
now the question is, who do they hire? any good ideas?
I like chip Kelly, cowherd for example. Prefer no retreads though.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 11:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dennis Green would be a good GM
if he doesn’t want to coach. I see Billick being a good expensive fit. Jim Fassel is good with QBs and so is Mike Martz. Steve Marucci is a smart guy. I think Fischer will go to the Rams.
i would like to see spags come here as our new DC..
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Every team in the NFL with a crappy defense
wishes the same. He won’t be unemployed for long if he doesn’t want to be. Philly is the most likely contender for him in my opinion.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
agreed lee, unless we can get a quality experienced HC with connections to spags.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 1:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think the Glazers will go big time on head coach
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
by Buc Wild on Jan 2, 2012 11:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
They better!
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 2, 2012 11:56 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I lost it when I saw that report.
That kid deserves a job on ESPN just for that.
We want the ball, and we're gonna score!
Boom!
I was just thinking that it was just cruel to make Morris go through with the 12:00pm end of season press conference scheduled to start here in a minute.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Good luck morris
Now lets work hard and spend money
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 2, 2012 11:56 AM EST via Android app reply actions
It's also announced that his staff was fired too
That counts Olson
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
by Buc Wild on Jan 2, 2012 11:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions
HC, OC, and DC needed
This team will look drastically different next year. Similar to 08 to 09
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
by Buc Wild on Jan 2, 2012 11:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Perhaps with more uncoached talent
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 2, 2012 11:59 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
My guess is yes, though new coach can retain or bring back
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
by Buc Wild on Jan 2, 2012 12:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Presumably, yes
Which is a little sad. I liked what Pat Morris had done with the offensive line this season, seemed to get a lot more out of them than Mangurian did the year before.
agreed, send out the clowns...
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
YAY! Bye sucka...
Dominik manages to save himself by rolling Rah under the bus. For another year anyway. He better not *ick up this draft or he will be out as well.
Dominik hasn't been terrible
The feeling, at least from a fan perspective where I stand, is that Morris was too much of a friend and not enough of a leader separate from the team, ready to bark and bite when needed. This team was so awful this season. As young as they’re getting, you’d expect a lot more spark.
R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel
Never for sure
Though I’d assume so, unless they want to go after a head coach who demands personnel control.
I think he will stay because of his contract
but I’m not sure he should. Not as obvious a firing, but the talent on the team is suspect.
by aakks on Jan 2, 2012 12:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I am okay with dom
As long as he does the right thing in FA this year, or the glazers get a HC/GM combo.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ha ha ha lol
Probably true.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 1:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
after watching the press conference
I now believe dom has to go now too!!!!!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 3:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My feelings exactly... Dominik is a coward
that was allegedly married to his youngry coach. Good luck to you Rah, I enjoyed the vision you did have for the team when you started. Now that everyone is happy, just remember the entire city of Pittsburgh wanted Chuck Noll fired in the early 70s. Noll went on to become one of the most successful coaches in NFL history. Jeff Fisher does nothing for me. 16 years of average play at best, screw that go for a offensive coordinator from GB, NO, or NE. We don’t need a re-tread, we need someone young and hungry to make their first impact in the league. This is why I felt Morris deserved the off season to try and straighten the ship.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
Just wanting an opinion
I have heard lots of names come up but what I haven’t heard is Pete Carmicheal
the Saints OC
I was wondering what our div. rivals think of him
Do you have the perception that he’s just Payton’s lackey and not really calling the plays
Or does the fact he’s had to learn something from Payton interest teams
I dont want the Saints to get rid of him I like him and he does call our plays and work with our QB
I was ust corious
by mississippisaintsfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:00 PM EST reply actions
Exactly.
Someone will take a shot on him eventually though if they sustain success like that.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Thanks to both of you
I kinda thought that also
I figured he would have to go to another team as an OC and bring that aggressiveness with him and see how it plays out
Hopefully not soon
by mississippisaintsfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Oh at how wonderful the relief feels........
Once the cause of the pain is REMOVED!….Let the healing begin!
"In life, you'll have your back up against the wall many times. You might as well get used to It." - Coach Paul 'Bear' Bryant
Ok watch this move set us back another few years
and everyone will just complain about the new coach. Worst fans in the NFL
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
Not true freeman05.
Rah was in over his head and that was painfully obvious. If we get the right coach with the right players to fill the gaps, we could be successful starting as soon as this year!!!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Totally agree Bucfan...
Gruden in his 1st year as Bucs HC took this team to the SB….. Falcons HC his 1st year turned that team around and got thgem in the playoff and has every season since and many other examples as well as examples of things going bad like the Morris hiring…. Morris Couldn’t do it and obviously wasn’t going to so this is the best way to give the Bucs a chance at a hopeful next season and many after…I mean really, for those who say this will set us back, how much far can we go back 10 straight loses, several blow outs and players that quit…. THEY ARE ALREADY SET BACK BECAUSE OF MO!!!
"In life, you'll have your back up against the wall many times. You might as well get used to It." - Coach Paul 'Bear' Bryant
by Tye on Jan 2, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
agreed.
The right coach with owner support and the right spending of money in free agents, we could be playoff contenders in 2012.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 1:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You guys are right, I just got so down watching this year that my expectations are to suck...
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I'm glad it's over and that they didn't let us twist in the wind.
I was really worried they might actually keep him,
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions
Are there any more harbaugh brothers?
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 2, 2012 12:04 PM EST via Android app reply actions
LOL THIS HASN'T BEEN USED BEFORE
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
Their dad Jack
He goes over all the game film for them every week and tells them what to do. He’s like eighty or something, but maybe we can get him. haha
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Damn! You beatme to it
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
He is a great guy.
I used to know him pretty well. He was the head coach at WKU for most of my childhood. My dad is a semi-celebrity there from his playing days, so we had a lot of access at games and such. He also had a mentoring program set up at our local middle school in which he would bring in players to work with troubled youth. My mom worked at the school and ran the mentoring program. Honestly he is one of the best men I’ve ever known and I’m not surprised his kids turned out to be excellent head coaches.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
HC option
Tom cable was oaklands head coach and he is now asst. coach in seattle he almost turned oakland around after lane kiffen screwed them but was fired in just his first year. he is a great coach think about it
by Bucsfan09131991 on Jan 2, 2012 12:04 PM EST reply actions
He was fired in Oakland because he wasn't actually a great head coach
A good OL coach. More than that?
Also that whole punching issue
and the domestic violence.
by aakks on Jan 2, 2012 12:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lots of guys on this team like to throw a punch or two he might fit right in
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
How long can we expect to wait until they announce the new HC (Chudzinski)?
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
probably will tske a couple of weeks imao...
Hope not though.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Our long nightmare is over
Time to move forward, everyone. The next chapter begins today.
With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....
you should be shot right now... lol
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh at the Horror...
It was so rough going through that time Shula was HC of Alabama….. I’d SOOOOo hate to have to endure him as Bucs HC!
"In life, you'll have your back up against the wall many times. You might as well get used to It." - Coach Paul 'Bear' Bryant
by Tye on Jan 2, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe fisher ends up in miami
Id go there over tampa
by Carlitin1988 on Jan 2, 2012 12:17 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I hope he finds it more appealing for our sake
Maddon's Mission
Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
Lot more pieces to work with in Miami
except we have Free.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Dominik is going to have a tough sell
convincing coaches that he will open the checkbook up and get them some free agents. Morris was just happy to be a head coach and went along with it willingly enough. Someone with options isn’t going to put up with that though.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
True enough, The Glazers need to help Dom sell this
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Dom is just a glazer stooge, keeping him shows a lack of commitment to win, he should be gone as well
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
If he spends this year, I wouldn't be opposed to keeping him
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
morriss had no leverage.
He was dons stooge and dom is the glazers stooge.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Fisher has made it clear he only wants to go somewhere with an established QB
Does Freeman qualify for that? I don’t know. Not any less than Sam Bradford at least. Philip Rivers is the only one with an established QB.
Fisher will probably avoid any team with a big 12 qb then, he left a team over a big qb didn't he?
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Statistically he wasn't much worse
but long term potential Freeman has gobs of, Young is damaged goods. Hopefully we get a real offensive genius to work with Josh for the next decade.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I think Freeman is clearly superior to Bradford
based on the fact that although he looked less than stellar this year, he is a year younger than Bradford and has shown he can put together a great season. Bradford also has a much worse injury history than Freeman.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
I have just been scratching my head the past few days
when analysts point towards Bradford as a selling point for a coach to choose Saint Louis. I think Freeman and the #5 pick are much better than Bradford and the #3 pick.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Especially so because teams reported that STL would have tons of cap room
But, they won’t. They’re still burdened by a lot of high first-round contracts. That cap room won’t be around until 2013.
Cap room is a huge plus here for a new HC
and I can’t see a good coach willing to come here unless we’re willing to start using it.
cap room is great, as long as the glazers utulize it.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Marty Schottenheimer
nobody can build a team like he could from the bottom up
Marty does get a bad wrap.........
He may have playoff woes in the past but he sure can rack up the wins in the regular season…..
"In life, you'll have your back up against the wall many times. You might as well get used to It." - Coach Paul 'Bear' Bryant
by Tye on Jan 2, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
How about we get a coach that can teach this team how to tackle? Is that so hard to do?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
The limitation on padded practices in the new CBA is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Still- Tackling Drills
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
bucball meant and was tackling.
We will never see that type of sure tackling again.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can't have tackling drills without padded practice.
Tackling dummies don’t stiff arm and they are stationary.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Anyway we can tear up the CBA?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Anyway, these players know how to tackle
It’s about their willingness to initiate contact and follow through on the tackle. It’s laziness and lack of effort more than technique. You don’t play organized football for your life and all of a sudden forget how to form tackle.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
and to add, it is the coaches who have to emphasize and re teach it too.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
no re-treads
hopefully we go get a guy like chudzinski, or another hot coordinator. i don’t want to bring in an old coach just to have a name in there. cowher is done, he’s not coaching anymore, give it up, and he wants to be hc/gm, i don’t like that at all, coaches need someone to tell them no, see jon gruden and the rotating door of old, tired players he brought in here who were on their last legs. no fischer, no marty……..no re-treads. fischer is linked to the chargers job which should come open any day now. marty can’t win in the playoffs and he’s not a coach any more. how long has this guy been out of the league now? i’’m liking chudzinski right now, but i have some research to do.
You prefer to have another Morris?
I don’t want Chudzinski here, he hasn’t done anything to show me he’s ready to be a HC, especially here.
Raheem was the DREAM that turned into a NIGHTMARE..
Spags and Turner DC and OC
I would love to see that come in to Tampa..We don’t need a re-tread I’m not big in brininging in a college coach cause there aren’t many available that would fit here I don’t think..I’d love to see a big name come in but besides fisher or cowher I just don’t see it
by TampaBayAllTheWayFromCaliforni-A on Jan 2, 2012 12:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
that would be great. but think it would be highly unlikely.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Definatley not Marty Schottenheimer please
And the other day somebody said Mike Sherman we don’t need him either..if Chud is our best option and is willing to come here..bring him in
by TampaBayAllTheWayFromCaliforni-A on Jan 2, 2012 12:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
idk where my subject went
but don’t give me brian schotty either
LOL
just read a comment on PFT that called Morris yunemployed
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
by LeeCaz on Jan 2, 2012 12:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think it's unlikely too BucFan
by TampaBayAllTheWayFromCaliforni-A on Jan 2, 2012 12:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Please try to use the reply button.
This thread is going to get large pretty quickly.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
I agree with you.
I would like to see someone like him though. But he has it great in Oregon anyways.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well hope everyones happy now....
I’m happy that Olson will no longer poison Josh anymore but I really wanted Morris to succeed here. End of an era and hopefully 2012 brings us the coaching and talent we all want.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
World is ending before next season is over anyway.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
haha yeah right when we start looking good probably
can anyone go to the press conference today?
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
Funniest comment I've read
Maybe TEOTWAWKI will have a Buc logo
OC from GB
and tell him to bring QB Matt Flynn in as a FA too.
People get overexcited after one game
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Yep
Flynn had a good game against a not-so-good pass defense. He also showed limitations, most notably a pretty weak arm.
Pretty weak arm you gotta remember its windy and cold as hell in GB
Not trying to argue and say Flynn has a gun, but he obviously has more than enough of an arm to throw for five tds and only one pick in his first start.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
yes yes yes
even though McCarthy calls the plays I’ll still take the QB coach w/o Flynn. Just some quality on their resumes ie. McDaniels, GB QB coach, GB OC, NO OC, NE OC any of these would be great to start to rebuild Josh Freeman. Remember the kid was subject to three years of Olson’s crappy skills
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
What about chuck pagano
has done some good things with baltimore defense
I like the hire but he's a 3-4 schemer
I could see McCoy playing the LDE, Okam at NT, and possibly Price at the RDE… Bowers and Clayborn could be rush linebackers, but I don’t think either have the speed to be dominant. We’re best off staying with the 4-3 I think.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
ah yea i forgot about the 3-4
well, scratch that thought
Most of the best defenses in the NFL are 3-4
but I just think our personnel wouldn’t fit. Hayes and Black can’t play will and sam in a 4-3, imagine if our pass rush solely depended on those two scrubs getting pressure smh
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
Dekoda Watson is the only guy remotely capable of playing a 3-4 rush OLB, Foster would be good at 3-4 ILB,
But the rest are blah
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Watson deserved to start from week one..
Even in the pre season he outplayed Black and never really got action.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I have been saying the same thing since week one.
A good example why rah (rags) no longer coaches here….
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 1:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We need a complete overhaul anyway.
I’m not worried about a switch to the 3-4.
Raheem was the DREAM that turned into a NIGHTMARE..
Is Josh Freeman repairable after three years of Olson?
Or are we going to start from complete scratch, what happens if our new coach doesn’t look at Freeman as his guy and wants his own. Crazier things have happened, look at Jay Cutler in Denver. At the time Cutler was much more highly regarded than Freeman currently is.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I know too many people looking at Freeman with stars in their eyes
an outsider might have a different take on our so called “franchise” QB,
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly!
It was very easy to jump on his back after last year, I’ve never seen Tampa with a qb that looked like he had so much potential. But coming out of college he couldn’t read a defense and made poor decisions. Three years into the NFL and I can’t say I’ve seen him progress in those phases
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
It's not his fault his recievers can't get open
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
it's not his recievers fault that he throws it over their heads
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
I saw alot of receivers open by NFL standards and Free either didn't even see them
or badly missed them. Our receivers aren’t standouts and won’t be running down the sidelines wide open, look how good qbs throw their receivers open sometimes.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
Sometimes he had to look them off, the Bears game last play is perfect for that
Olson called 4 yd curls with only one guy- Preston Parker running a decent route
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 2, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
I dislike how he constantly tried to force the ball to K2, when other guys were open
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
There is plenty of blame to go around for the poor passing game
Poor play calling including no running game, .drops, receivers that can’t get open, Freeman’s poor decisions, Freeman’s injuries, Freeman staring down receivers. All around disaster this year.
I’d hate to see us give up on Freeman now though. Let’s get him some coaches that don’t suck, a couple new weapons, and see where that takes us.
this is what I assume happens
I’m just saying the possibility might be there that whoever our new coach is might look at RG III as their guy
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I suspect he will be gone by our pick
and I think it would be a mistake to take him, but like you say, some big changes coming so who knows.
dont forget a suspect offensive line too.
A new coach might make a change at QB, but I believe freeman will get his shot under the new regime.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 1:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yup, faine needs to be replaced too.
Wasn’t he a trident signed? I believe he was!!!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 3:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
trident? *meant gruden
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 3:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol, dont make phil mad....
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 9:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You can't?
Really? Because I certainly can. Just put on the tape from his rookie season. Night and day.
Look, the team is not going to give up on Freeman, nor should they. This is not the first young QB to have a bad year after a good season.
Everybody needs to step back and take a long hard look at this kid, he had one good year against some crap teams just like his head coach
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
He had an outstanding year against a variety of teams
He was calm under pressure, accurate (over the final games) and consistently made good decisions. He’s having a down year, now, in part because every single person on offense seems to be playing worse.
How many years do you give him if he continues to suck?
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Next year is his last if he sucks
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Jan 2, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
OK you say that now but what about all the people who will say "new coach, new system casued him to struggle he needs more time"
because you know a lot of people will say that
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying he is terrible, I'm just saying we don't know yet
after all he was brought here by rah, and we can see how that turned out
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Jan 2, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yes Iowa glad you can understand what I'm saying
Freeman had/has potential yes, but he was drafted for our now former system. After three years of Greg Olson, do we now have damaged goods?
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
i say he has earned at least one more year
but next year is very telling for me at least. if he sucks then move on dont spend 5-7 years on something thats not going to work out
Bring in a FA (Matt Flynn?)
and let them compete in camp. Best man wins the job.
Freeman deserves a chance for at minimum if next year..
I agree with every point Sander has made to date about freeman. I truly believe that no offseason, terrible coaching, crappy receivers, poor blocking up front, lack of consistent running game and finally OLSON hurt him this year. Seriously, lets give this kid more time!!!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 1:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he needs at least one playmaker though
bring in dwayne bowe and make williams the no. 2 and throw benn in the slot and let parker/briscoe battle it out for 4th wr. I think we need a TE badly too. dont know how much that knee is taking out of winslow but it seems hes aging quickly.
Winslow is past his prime
but Stocker showed next to nothing this year
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I think we have to stick with Winslow/Stocker for another year
Just so many other places we need to upgrade that are more important.
LaMichael James
and the best of the top receiver free agents we can get.
Also RT, and either C or LG
we have holes everywhere
LG isnt entirely elite
C sucks
RT sucks
MLB
OLB
OLB
S
CB
and then on top of that you got some questionables…
RB- can LGB hang on to the ball
QB slump or defenses figuring out freeman ?
S can tanard jackson tackle? not even hit hard just TACKLE.
I was just talking offense
Here’s what we need imo. Way more than we can do in one offseason.
- WR
3rd down RB
RT,C/LG (ok with Zuttah at one of them)
TE
CBx3
LBx2
FS,SS
DT
i say we focus on defense
with cam newton and steve smith, matt ryan and white and jones and brees and his arsenal we need a good defense to stop the pass. thats why i think morris claiborne would make the most sense at the no. one pick then a linebacker in the second or double dip on corners.
rogers? sounds good.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Jan 2, 2012 3:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
OK from his rookie season minus the GB game he could only go up...
you show me where his decision making improved from year 2-3… and I’m begging you to do so and not just ignore me
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
It didn't improve
Which isn’t all that surprising given the complete lack of an offseason, honestly. The difference in decision making this year and last year is that last season, he was much less willing to throw the ball downfield, and scrambled instead. This season he’s been kept in the pocket, and he’s tried to fit throws in there that he wouldn’t have attempted last season.
In addition, his receivers have never managed to catch a ball that wasn’t perfect this season. Last year he consistently threw up jump balls to Mike Williams, and he’d come down with them. This year, those only resulted in interceptions.
There are a lot of factors in play here. Josh Freeman’s skills didn’t suddenly disappear after 2010.
I'm not saying he has no skills he's an NFL quarterback, of course he has some skills
I’m saying after three years of Olson, do we have damaged goods at this point.
You contradict yourself b/c you said his improvement was night and day just a few posts ago? Not sure if you are trying to make yourself sound more knowledgeable then the rest of us, that clearly see that Freeman’s decision making and ability of read a defense haven’t improved.
I want Josh to be our franchise QB more than anyone, look at the user name I liked his potential coming into the 09 draft. When I used him in Madden for the first time I fell in love with the kids game. Unfortunately I’m not so sure that all the hype Rah and Dom and others have put on Freeman is worthy.
Remember Dom promised this is the most physical team in Bucs history. And he’s going big back hunting that can wear on defenses, blah blah blah.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
I didn't contradict myself
I said that 2009 vs 2011 Freeman is night and day. Not 2010 vs 2011. And it is. He’s much more accurate and makes much better decisions this season. He knows how to use his blocking to buy time, how to step up in the pocket etc.
Yes I agree with you there... but every young quarterback had a lack of an offseason.
That excuse makes no sense. I rarely saw him step up in the pocket and make more time for his receivers, not sure which team you were watching.
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
When Freeman had the opportunity to step up, he consistently did
And yes, everyone young quarterback lacked an offseason. Sam Bradford was worse this year, as a result. As was Mark Sanchez. Cam Newton wasn’t – but he was thrust into a college system playing to his strengths, giving him easy reads, with a great receiver to throw to. Andy Dalton was decent this year, better than Freeman – but he had more talent around him. Had Freeman had A.J. Green, this season would have looked a lot different.
And then there’s Matt Stafford, who had a terrific season – as the 1st overall pick from three years ago, with a great cast of receivers.
Yeah I would love to see what Free could do with a Megatron
and I don’t want people to take what I’m saying the wrong way. I’m pulling for Free, but our new coach might not feel the same way
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
Happy right now
Not only did they fire morris, but they got rid of every coach. Good move imo. Hope this goes well.
by lorigfan44 on Jan 2, 2012 12:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
All I wanted for Christmas was Olson to be fired!
At least we’re going to be busy all off season this year!
Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson in 2012... FIRE OLSON!!!
why does everyone want Cower who has been out of the league for 4 years.
Dick Labeau won pitz there SB and pitz has been to 2 SB since.
The Steelers werent very good when Cowher got there...
He made the competitive again. They always had great defenses under Cowher. They were play-off regulars and 2 SuperBowl appearances. Bottom line, he left the Steelers in Better shape that he found them Sorta like what Dungy did for us. I’d love to have Cowher; he’d brings instant experiance, credibility and, would help us attract some much needed FA.
by ctd1977 on Jan 2, 2012 5:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The new era has begun
I personally see the franchise turning around next year, as I think the Glazers have seen that what worked before wont work for this team and they have to try other methods to build a winner. This team will be back next year and be a VERY COMPETITIVE team.
by Marlon The Okayplayer on Jan 2, 2012 4:02 PM EST reply actions
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