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Are the Glazers hurting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' chances of finding the right head coach?

The Glazers have a reputation as cheap owners. As the Bucs have been near the bottom in payroll for years on end, that accusation is hard to dispute. The Bucs have certainly offered their own plausible reasons for why this is the case: they want to build through the draft and re-sign their own players, but they've been terrible at drafting in recent years leading to few re-signings and a low payroll. It makes perfect sense - but is that a real reason, or is it just an excuse?

It's impossible to know the answer to that question, but the public perception certainly isn't in favor of the Glazers. And that perception may be hurting them in the coaching search right now. Wade Phillips pulled out of the interviewing process for unclear reasons, while Jeff Fisher's name was mentioned early in the process - but Fisher turned out to be uninterested the job. So why is that? I'll let Peter King explain it (emphasis mine):

Fisher: "From day one, when I began this process after the season, I felt Miami and St. Louis were my best options. I did my research. I looked at every team that had an opening. I looked at the personnel on each team, I looked at the owners, I looked at the cap situations, and I narrowed it to two. Not Marvin. Me. Marvin didn't push me. I am convinced he was completely objective.''

Fisher went on to say at the start of the process he was interested in a team that had a good owner and good quarterback, and he felt St. Louis had the best combination of both.

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I don't think you can make a legitimate argument that Sam Bradford is a better quarterback than Josh Freeman right now, despite Freeman's down year. His rookie season has been terribly overrated while he was absolutely abysmal this year. As in, worse than Jamarcus Russell bad. Yes, I'm comparing Sam Bradford to an all-time legendary bust of a quarterback, and Bradford does not come out looking good. That's how bad his numbers are, at least. And sure, he doesn't have a lot of talent around him - but you can use that same excuse for Freeman, and Freeman's numbers certainly look a lot prettier. Even the most hardened Freeman-hating, Bradford-supporting fan has to admit that right now, Bradford is not a better QB.

So if Bradford isn't a better QB, it just came down to ownership. Apparently, Jeff Fisher felt Stan Kroenke would give him a bigger chance of winning than the Glazers. Is that because he sees the Glazers as cheap, or is it because the Glazers wouldn't be likely to give him control over his own personnel? Whatever the reason, this must be a concern for the Bucs.

I don't really care that the Bucs didn't land Jeff Fisher. His resume doesn't excite me, and his demands of control over personnel as well as his choice for coordinators make me wary of hiring him. Brian Schottenheimer and Gregg Williams, really?

But that doesn't mean we can't take something from this episode, and it's that maybe the Glazers don't have a pretty reputation around the league either.

In slightly related news, the Bucs will be interviewing Rob Chudzinski tomorrow per Jason La Canfora. Had to get that in somewhere.

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Is this Chud's second interview?

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 16, 2012 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

What have the Glazers said in the past?

I know they do not do interviews that often, but Joel Glazer did say that they would spend whatever is necessary. I am hesitant to believe this like many Bucs fans, but I don’t think they have ever said anything of that nature before. I hope it isn’t just bs to appease (fool) the fans, but maybe they are trying a different strategy? If anyone has any insight into this I would love to hear it.

by Toast4 on Jan 16, 2012 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

I don't recall them saying that before, no

I do recall them (or at least, their coach) saying that with regards to Manchester United – that money would never be an issue.

by Sander on Jan 16, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Money has been nothing BUT an issue...

and their “so tight they squeak then they walk” way have caught up with them. They painted themselves as Uber Cheapskates by signing no one and hiring a bargain-basement HC.

No wonder Jeff Fisher never considered us a viable option.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 16, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to believe that they will spend $ on free agents, but

as you say, their history indicates that they will not. But then again, if they do not have a history of misleading the fans then maybe…maybe we could get some free agent talent in RJ. I don’t want to go the way of the Redskins in years past, or how the Eagles did last off-season, but it is obvious that some fa supplementation is necessary.

by Toast4 on Jan 16, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they have to!

This fanbase is pissed

by Carlitin1988 on Jan 16, 2012 9:59 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Joel Glazer did say he would "spend whatever is necessary"

per an article in the Tampa Tribune.

You article is excellent, Sander, and you have many good points.

I’ve felt in my gut for a few weeks now that Chud will be the answer. It concerns me that we haven’t even mentioned Offensive/Defensive Coordinators and the rest of a coaching staff. I think the entire coaching staff re-building has scared some candidates away.

A woman who knows her sports.

by Bucs-RaysChick on Jan 16, 2012 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

When HC changes are made - the staffs usually get canned as well.

Shouldn’t be a huge surprise. A HC should WANT to bring in his own people, especially so if you stop to consider we finished 4-12 last year. The entire team underperformed, and which of the assistants would you actually want? Bad pass rush, equally bad LB and DB play, with a helping of bad QB and WR play.

How good could our staff have really been? That is the best group Rah could attract. Its exactly why we need an experienced “name” coach with an established coaching network – to draw the quality assistants here.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 16, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe the cheapskate rep

Does hurt the team, but I honestly the Glazers can solve that with a couple strokes of a pen. I’m almost certain whomever we bring in as HC will have more than enough challenges evaluating &
re-tooling this team . Gotta spend money an hopefully they’re taking this time to be smart and not cheap

by GoBuxGo on Jan 16, 2012 4:04 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Great to hear that a Chud interview is scheduled

I’m still patient. If there’s no word by Friday, THEN I plan to get impatient.

With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....

by RookTakesYou on Jan 16, 2012 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

Ask me again after this offseason

This will be a critical offseason. The coaching picks and free agent additions (or not) will be telling. If they go cheap, they’re going to cement the cheap reputation forever. If they don’t, they can probably spin this as a failed experiment rather than cheapness. I think it is both though.

by aakks on Jan 16, 2012 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

To be honest

I think we dodged a bullet by not going after Fisher. I hope we hire either Chud or Zimmer, as both have a lot of upside and more experience then Raheem did.

by Allen W on Jan 16, 2012 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

Basically EVERYBODY has more experience than Rah did...

What in the hell is a “Quality Control” coach anyway?

by Cracker Ball on Jan 16, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I didn't like the hire to begin with but held out hope that maybe he was some sort of football savant.

He was not.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 16, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a smart guy, just was in way over his head. Still might be a viable HC in 10 years.

Too bad it won’t be with us.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 16, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, really dont blame Rah

I really liked the guy but your right was in way over his head. He was thrown to the wolves for sure

by 37champs on Jan 16, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

After seeing his choices for OC and DC, I tend to agree with you

With the 5th pick of the 2012 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select....

by RookTakesYou on Jan 16, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

... and Joel Glazer needs to do something about that tie

while he’s at it. My grandpa called from 1955 and wants it back.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 16, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather not go with a retread.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 16, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too...

Would like to see chudzinski brought in and see what he can do. Cant be worse than rah was….. Lets do this thing!!!!

East Coast Fan

by Bucfan on Jan 16, 2012 5:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Glazers' excuse just doesn't fly

They keep claiming they’re not the tight-wads the “unwashed masses” say. Clearly we just don’t know the whole picture (and will never know, because they won’t illuminate it for us).

Yet, as the article above suggests, their payroll is among the lowest in the league, and anybody with eyes can see they have gaping holes in their roster, which went unfulfilled last year (Dominik: “Yep, I looked over all the free agents available, and the only one worth bothering with was a kicker”).

Then we as fans are derided by ownership and the national media as being apathetic. Hogwash. When the team was winning games (or at least pretending to compete) the stadium was filled every Sunday.

by Morgan71 on Jan 16, 2012 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe Raheem wanted to go with what he had, and talked dom into it. Or vice versa.

We don’t know all the details. One thing I do know, any new coach will have a huge shopping list, and if we don’t out and sign players this year.

Well, then we know the glazers are cheap.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 16, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

He could've liked Bradford over Freeman

I mean, you had people saying Ryan Leaf was better than Peyton Manning.

I put the screw IN THE TUNA!

by Transplanted on Jan 16, 2012 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe he was referring to a deal he already setup with indy to send two firsts a second and bradford for luck.

also, he met with the ownership and they promised him LA.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 16, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Fisher got Greg Williams to make a lateral move from the Saints to the Rams.

Even though that’s pretty impressive, I’m definitely glad we didn’t get Fisher now. Dr. Heat would have made our defense even worse than it is.

Oderint dum metuant

by jBen05 on Jan 16, 2012 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

Still, he changed teams for a lateral move.

In most cases the coach would stay with the same team, unless they are getting a promotion.

Oderint dum metuant

by jBen05 on Jan 16, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Or, unless the Saints weren't interested in extending him

Which they supposedly weren’t. Haven’t heard anything of the Saints even making an offer to Williams.

by Sander on Jan 16, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

True.

All of the facts aren’t out yet, I shouldn’t assume. I just know I don’t want Williams as our DC. Our tackling is all ready bad, we would want the guy responsible for the Beast Mode run directing our tackling drills.

Oderint dum metuant

by jBen05 on Jan 16, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, and if you listen to saints fans all year, they couldnt stand willians.

Guarantee they are glad he is gone. Now this is worrisome. The saints can now bring in,a good DC, and watch him turn them around and make them good. With that offense, watch out….

East Coast Fan

by Bucfan on Jan 16, 2012 8:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The Saints don't have the talent on defense to be good

Specifically, they don’t have the pass rushers. Will Smith was the only one who could get after it and he hasn’t looked like the same guy this year. Behind them they have Jonathan Vilma who is very good against the pass, very smart – but also not that stout against the run. Then there’s Jabari Greer, who’s pretty good as a cornerback, and Malcolm Jenkins, who’s a pretty good safety. But that’s it.

by Sander on Jan 16, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats true!!!

I was referring more to scheme and personality. Sometimes you can squeeze oranges and not get lemonade. Maybe the players didnt want to play for him anymore?

East Coast Fan

by Bucfan on Jan 16, 2012 9:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  


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