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Playoffs Open Thread: Giants at Packers

It's 2008 all over again. A New York Giants team that had been mediocre for the entire season travels to Green Bay in the playoffs to face a solid team and a star quarterback. Can the Giants repeat their success and beat the Green Bay Packers at an ice-cold Lambeau Field, or will Aaron Rodgers just slice up this Giants secondary?

I'm putting my money on Rodgers.

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Whoever has more big plays to the TEs will win. That's my prediction.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

Discount Double Check!!!

That dance is awesome

by GoBuxGo on Jan 15, 2012 4:32 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

you like statistics right...

Here is a list put together by the ny times. http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/01/best-tight-ends-in-n-f-l-the-top-10-list/
Now I know grunt and hernadez aren’t in this list but even if you add both of them that’s 4 out of the top 12 te currently in the playoffs. YOU NEED MORE THAN JUST GOOD TEs!

by gusjackson on Jan 15, 2012 6:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

you need a OC that realizes they are the most important offensive weopon

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

You posted a list from two years ago?

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jan 15, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

K2 is on this list, lol

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jan 15, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

also gates?

Really? How old is this?

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

2010-05-01

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

woooof

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

look at these two things

One how many of them have rings…
Two how much has that list change from 2010 to now. Alot right. So if you draft someone in the top 5 they need to be good for several years. The te position’s top ten changes year to year. Why waste a pick on that. Look at qb I could give you the top ten from 2010 and it would similar to this one.

by gusjackson on Jan 15, 2012 6:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

this is the same guy

Who says Marty does not kno the importance of a TE and is way behind..Yet Marty brought the true TE play into place Gonzolize at KC then continued the trend in SD with gates..

by 69her on Jan 15, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Randall Cough

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

Well, not a fumble

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey look blocking

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

Rodgers is cocky

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

Aww, finley

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And I'm that way cause back in the day
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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

That was a bad throw, good read

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

Sure

Give him all day to throw. That will turn out well.

by NewLogic on Jan 15, 2012 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

Bad Tackling- Pt. 50

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And I'm that way cause back in the day
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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

didn't Nicks make that

Same TD play last week?

by GoBuxGo on Jan 15, 2012 5:10 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

No, he just ran through the defenders while they were staring at him

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea just like he did

Against the Falcons

by GoBuxGo on Jan 15, 2012 5:13 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

That was last week.

This week, somebody tried to tackle him

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we get the Giants WR's coach?

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

I don't know, maybe

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And I'm that way cause back in the day
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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

So.... No?

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And I'm that way cause back in the day
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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

It's january in lambeau and it's a passing battle

A sign of what the nfl has become.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

Fumble, Failz

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

Refs suck

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, the NFL sucks.

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jan 15, 2012 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

Who paid these guys off?

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jan 15, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Brandon Sane?

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

lost was terrible. I don't understand how anyone got passed season 1

every episode was some backstory about a horrible person I don’t care about with cliche problems.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

TD packers

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

GB trying to get cute

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jan 15, 2012 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

Silly McCarthy.

He thought he was Sean Payton.

Oderint dum metuant

by jBen05 on Jan 15, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Blitz damnit

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

I love going for it

I don’t think I’ve ever said “kick it” or “punt it” in 4th&short

by Sander on Jan 15, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That would have been a wise decision

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And I'm that way cause back in the day
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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to see someone rock Rodgers after he takes off.

He seems so slow to me, I’m surprised know one hasn’t taken his head off yet.

Oderint dum metuant

by jBen05 on Jan 15, 2012 5:36 PM EST reply actions  

No not know

I’m retarded.

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by jBen05 on Jan 15, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Have the entire Packers WR corps switched hands with Michael Clayton?

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

Chud?

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And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"

by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Did they run a high tempo offense with Cam?

I didn’t watch many of their games.

Oderint dum metuant

by jBen05 on Jan 15, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

Spread offense, incorporated some QB option plays toward the end of the year too.

by Sander on Jan 15, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Very wise

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jan 15, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

CHUD!

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jan 15, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

the Chud

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Ghostrider 2 for real?

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

Terrible sequels to a bad first movie

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of which, This is the year for terrible sequels

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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Expendables 2, MIB 3, etc

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And I'm that way cause back in the day
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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

They're really doing an expendables 2?

That was one of the worst movies I’ve ever watched. Haha that’s just funny.

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by jBen05 on Jan 15, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

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And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"

by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

G.I. Joe 2, The Avengers (for real)

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And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"

by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

You weren't lying.

This is the year of terrible sequels.

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by jBen05 on Jan 15, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

and nicolas cage is always up to that challenge

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

"i'm good enough to win an oscar, but I'd rather collect a paycheck"

what I assume nic cage has going through his head

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

He is the only actor

Where I have not met a single person that enjoys him. How does he keep getting these jobs. Cage is the Norv Turner of acting

by gusjackson on Jan 15, 2012 8:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I love cage in anything where he has to play a drunk or a twin.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Eli is a beast on 3rd down.

He’s on Brees’ level.

Oderint dum metuant

by jBen05 on Jan 15, 2012 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

OOPS

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jan 15, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

See guys, that's what happens when you get pressure

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And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"

by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:48 PM EST reply actions  

Giants are gettin away from the script

Jacobs and Bradshaw need Some love

by GoBuxGo on Jan 15, 2012 5:51 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

why rush?

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

What is this game?

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And I'm that way cause back in the day
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by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:53 PM EST reply actions  

Game makes me want defense

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And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"

by 4QB on Jan 15, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Blackmon = Mouthy Dez Briscoe

Kendall Wright, RG3’s speedster and we can get him in the 4th

by GoBuxGo on Jan 15, 2012 5:59 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

He really stood out the the Baylor games.

Their RB is pretty good too, and Dom likes to go big back hunting.

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by jBen05 on Jan 15, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

4th? Ahahahaa

Kendall Wright is going in the late 1st, no later than the 2nd.

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jan 15, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, Blackmon is mouthy? What does that mean?

Blackmon is supposedly one of the nicest guys coming into this draft. Especially being a WR.

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jan 15, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen him throw tantrums against

Texas A&M and Iowa State. He’s good don’t get me wrong but a 1st round pick on a brat rookie WR? I’d rather us not go that route. Kendall Wright isn’t going in the first two rounds, theres alot of talented WRs coming out of bigger schools/markets. Wright would make more sense for us than Blackmon would IMO.

by GoBuxGo on Jan 15, 2012 6:30 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Too many not so good ones do it

I’m just saying it’s probable we can draft a WR that can provide us with the speed and quickness we need later in the draft. Going D first will turn out working pretty well for us

by GoBuxGo on Jan 15, 2012 6:41 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I don't really disagree

And I don’t think Blackmon is good enough to be drafted fifth overall anyway. I just wouldn’t characterize him as a problem on (or off) the field.

by Sander on Jan 15, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Welp the golden globe pre-game show is on. Good luck to the pack!

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 6:09 PM EST reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOW

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jan 15, 2012 6:09 PM EST reply actions  

Forrest F*ckin Manning

That my friends is how u finish a half

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hmmm profits??!

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 6:25 PM EST reply actions  

lol prophets im dumb

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_the_Greek

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

they are, the giants were the bottom 10

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

because their offence has forced the pakers to play catchup

doesn’t change that they were ranked one of the worst in the league.

All this game tells me is that you still need a top flight QB and offensive scheme.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

um the giants defense is one of the worst in the league brah?

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. Eli had a very very good season.

Hell, I traded Rodgers and rolled with him in fantasy. Did not disappoint.

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by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT

by Doug09 on Jan 15, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

niners had to drop nearly 40 points

and the ravens played a team without a QB.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

There has yet to be one defensive struggle in the playoffs.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Defense got 'em there...

and their turnovers won it for ’em. pickin off Brees all over the place.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 15, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

And both of them still needed a good offensive showing

Because, shock of all shocks, you need both offense and defense if you want to win consistently in the NFL.

by Sander on Jan 15, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

DEF set up a lot of SF points,,,

giving them a short field. DEF matters still.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 15, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

But if it isn't for that defense they don't beat the saints imo

But yeah I think 4 tds were scored in the last 4 minutes

by Carlitin1988 on Jan 15, 2012 7:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I am pretending that DEF got SF into the playoffs...

likewise for BAL, TEX, and PIT. DEN won with good and late heroics by Tebow. Their D kept them close in those games however.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 15, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

And all those teams had competent offenses along with them to put up points

Because, yet again, you need both in the NFL. You can’t win it all with no defense just as you can’t win it all with no offense.

by Sander on Jan 15, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

07 superbowl rematch???

I know no one wants to watch flacco play in a superbowl

by Carlitin1988 on Jan 15, 2012 7:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

and the point is.

If the Saints had a good defense they would be the nfc title game right now. That’s all im saying

by gusjackson on Jan 15, 2012 7:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Wrong the Giants

Always have a solid D, statically they may not measure up but I’d take any player from their D any day. Especially a DE

by GoBuxGo on Jan 15, 2012 6:55 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

That's fine, but statistically they are one of the worst in the league.

Here’s the thing. Without a good offence it doesn’t matter.

The idea that a team can win on just rushing the ball and defense is dead.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The only person that ever said JUST anything was you...

and your “passing game is all that matters” and “defense is outdated” crap. A balanced team, with a stout DEF can wreak havoc on the best of offenses (see NYG and GB)

Appears it is not so after all… Just sayin’

by Cracker Ball on Jan 15, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

you need a defense that can force turnovers to go along with your high powered offence

but marty ball isn’t that.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

by your thinking

Green Bay and The saints should have won by 30 because the giants and san fran offense is no where near as good as green bay and the saints

by gusjackson on Jan 15, 2012 8:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

How many big defensive plays...

gave the offense a short field – allowing easier scores?

by Cracker Ball on Jan 15, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

in the last quarter when they were down?

Zero.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Fact

Not team has ever won a super bowl with a defense below 25. EVER!

by gusjackson on Jan 16, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

That is interesting... and not unexpected

I would have guessed that a DEF would have to be even better that 25th to even get there.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 16, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Oakland

When they played the bucs were 25. I think dont quote me on that lol.

by gusjackson on Jan 17, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

uh, yeah it is

look it up

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Late hits on Forrest

Aren’t cool at all

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Ryan Grant and K2 have to be related

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by Doug09 on Jan 15, 2012 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

Pack it in. That was a Giant mistake.

Big Blue fans must be Raven. But in the end we’re all Patriots. Um…..49ers.

by Landlubber on Jan 15, 2012 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

Sander, you around?

As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.

by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

This weekend of games kind of reinforces what we've been saying, it aint all about the offense.

And look at the last 10 running backs of winning Super Bowl teams. Not a high pick that panned out or stud among them

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Defense can still play and win, and RBs haven’t done much in the playoffs either.

by Sander on Jan 15, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It's all about the basics.

Dont turn it over, play defense, and things turn out alright, at least in the last 10 years or so.

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

RIght, but best offense in league doesnt mean squat in weather and pressure

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

We averaged 17ish points a game (im guessing) and gave up like 28

We can win scoring 18, we cant win giving up 28

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

no, you can't win scoring 18. You need to average 24+

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

how? The giants have one of the top passing games in the nfl and one of the worst ranked defenses?

All this proves is that the giants were a better team today.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

tell that to new england.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not all about the offense.

SF showed us that, same with 08 NYG and now this version of the Giants

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

What are you talking about?

The giants have one of the best passing attacks in the nfl.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

See that 13 on the board? Thats what won the game

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That's fine, but it's a passing game that got the giants here.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

But they play defense. Cold games and weather games lean towards defense.

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Do they?

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems that way. Look at playoff winners over last few years.

Look at this year’s playoffs. Minus the Pats, its been more defense than offense. 49ers won with offense late, but they also stymied Saints for 3+ quarters.

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Saints and Packers have won since the rules changed.

Neither won with a stacked defense but a high powered offence backed by an turnover based defense.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Last year GB defense was top 5 in yards/game and #2 in points/game

their offence wasn’t nearly as good last year as it has been this year

by flimsy2147 on Jan 15, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

finally

Someone gets it!

by gusjackson on Jan 15, 2012 8:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Fundamentals

Dont turn the ball over, have some sort of run game, and play defense.

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

What are you talking about?

Pass the ball, play enough defense to get turn overs and run the ball a few times a game to kill the clock.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

You need both sides of the ball to win, no doubt.

But I’ll take the historic trend and play defense in the playoffs to win.

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

Since the new rules went into effect you need a top 10 passer to win in the playoffs and be able to score 30 plus.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Then why hasnt Peyton and Brady won more?

Peyton won in year D played well, Brees won when Saints D was hot, same with Rodgers last year. This wasnt an offensive show.

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

they changed the rules in 2010 brah

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

What rules are you talking about? The passing rules were changed in 07 or 06

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2010/8/10/1615365/2010-nfl-rule-changes-hitting

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Not as big of a change as the no chuck rule

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

'05, I think

And it wasn’t even an official rule change, it was an instruction to the refs to be more strict about enforcing those rules. That made a very big difference, though.

by Sander on Jan 15, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

so how much statistics do you really have

If they changed in 2010 and defense are just now getting used to these new rules. Who’s to say that a defensive guru wont figure out a new way to slow down these high powered offenses.

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a 69 year old man won't come up with a way.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes... that is his argument

Just too old – no further explanation required.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 16, 2012 7:42 AM EST up reply actions  

But his assistants can

Because he will attract top notch assistants. Look how many became head coaches or head coaching candidates

by gusjackson on Jan 17, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you... again.

PutupyourDUKES acts like Schottenheimer has to do all of this himself. He will have a top staff to interact with the players directly. They will all do the relevant coaching and Marty just keeps it all together and motivates.

He appears to be in good health, so I don’t get all the fuss.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 18, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

DAGGER

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by Doug09 on Jan 15, 2012 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

I bet Rodgers

Wish they had an effective running game to lean on today.

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Live by the Pass

Die by the pass

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The giants live by the pass....

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Why? How would that have helped?

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, so defense matters?

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

Giants still have one of the top offences and scored 37 points......

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

They also didn't run the ball and relied on the pass.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

On a crappy defense.

You’re missing half the argument. You dont have to have a big offense to win, but you have to have defense.

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

You want to point to the 37 points and call it a day.

The defense is what won it. They didnt need 37 because of the D.

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

The niners did.

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

The 49ers picked Brees twice...

so DEF turnover recoveries played a huge role – unless that isn’t defense.

by Cracker Ball on Jan 15, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

u r a 100% right defense wins playoffs

i thought u wanted to draft blackmon or richarson. we need to stop brees and ryan and newton

by mlowebucs on Jan 15, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

drafting a RB in the first round is idiotic

im sorry

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

this i agree with

Unless the running back is a once in lifetime running back I wouldn’t do it. You can get a pro bowl back in 4th or 5th round. Qbs wrs dt de cbs and offensive linemen. That’s all the positions that should be drafted in the first round.

by gusjackson on Jan 15, 2012 8:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If we don't draft o-line or CB I will be shocked/angry

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by putupyourDUKES on Jan 15, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I have NEVER said I wanted Blackmon or T-Rich

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by Buc Wild on Jan 15, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

But if we can't trade and claiborne is gone

Then bpa. Kirkpatrick would.be a reach at no. 5 and so would kuechly

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