What is Wrong with Josh Freeman?
by LeeCaz on Sep 26, 2011 3:27 PM EDT
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Now, I'm sure this will unleash some fury hurled at me, but someone has to point out that Josh Freeman seems to have regressed considerably since last season. Last year Freeman was a dream to behold. He stood tall in the pocket, made plays with his feet, had impeccable timing with his receivers, made excellent decisions, and was extremely accurate on the majority of his throws. This year, not so much.
Of course Freeman has still been making plays with his feet. Many a first down this season has come thanks to his heavenly combination of size and athleticism. I'm more concerned with his decision making and his accuracy. Now, you may be looking at Freeman's completion percentage and scratching your head. The fact of the matter is that Freeman's completion percentage is being grossly overinflated by the many check downs he has thrown this year (I mean, Earnest Graham is the team's leading receiver people, and no one else is even close).
The main concern (for me at least) lies with the fact that Freeman has been high on quite a few of his intermediate throws this season. He seems to have lost a bit of touch. Even the quick screen that Freeman threw to Williams yesterday was almost two feet too high. Fortunately, Williams was able to use his great hands and turn upfield without even missing a beat. Freeman has already thrown four interceptions, two of which were in the red zone. Luckily, we were able to win both of these games and bounce back, but the carelessness with the ball in those situations is alarming. His decision making seems to have regressed to say the least.
Where is the timing with the receivers we saw last year? I understand the lockout was quite the hindrance but I wasn't expecting this. I'm aware it's unfair to put all the blame on Freeman's shoulder's here. Olson could just not be calling the right plays, or the receivers could just be running shoddy routes. Mike Williams has caught ten balls for 89 yards and one TD through the first three games. Something besides double coverage is amiss. If Williams is being double covered that often than one would think the opposite receiver would be reaping the benefits. They're not.
While I'm ecstatic to be 2-1, I just want more. There is an extremely likely chance that we will be 3-1 after facing the Colts next Monday. That is a great first quarter of the season and puts in an extremely likely position to compete for at least a wild card spot, and perhaps the division if the Falcons offensive line keeps modeling itself after that famous cheese from Switzerland.
We're in a great spot to make a run this year, and unless the play of Freeman improves I'm not sure we can live up to our potential. I knew the TD/interception ratio he set for himself was unsustainable, but I wasn't expecting it to be totally reversed. While his play hasn't been horrible, it has been average. He is capable of much, much more. I hope we see a little bit of what we saw last year on Monday night. Our playoff hopes may very well depend on it.
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Freeman has looked quite off in the first 3 games
Boy did that rookie qb look good for the colts yesterday
by Carlitin1988 on Sep 26, 2011 11:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
He isn't a rookie,
I’m pretty sure this is his second year. Curtis Painter you’re talking about, right?
by bukaneerfan1 on Sep 26, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It's his third year
6th round pick in 09
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
I think all three games have shown three different problems
In the first game, the receivers couldn’t get open against man coverage. In the second game I think the playcalls really didn’t help the passing game and a few drops hurt our perception of Freeman.
And last night, he was just off. He wasn’t really making bad decisions outside of the first interception, but he was just throwing balls a little high and a little behind players.
I don’t think this is a long-term problem, though. But it does show that Freeman is still developing and hasn’t turned into Aaron Rodgers, not yet at least.
He has been high on his throws quite a bit
going back to preseason. The turnovers in the red zone are the most disappointing to me. If the throw isn’t there he needs to be throwing it away. Three points is better than nothing. I would need to go back and review the film, because I can’t remember if they were bad decisions or bad throws.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Both bad decisions and bad throws, generally
I don’t think he was problematically high with his throws before this game. It really stood out yesterday.
He was off yesterday for sure
But you dont think that this is a sign of his collapse like maybe some others are suggesting do you?
East Coast Fan
Hah, not at all
One bad game and two meh games don’t negate what he did last year. And it’s not like he was disastrously bad.
+1
And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
by dryroastedsean on Sep 26, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
My thoughts exactly
Josh is a gamer with all the tools and size, plus mental toughness to excel in this league. I’m glad this kid is on our team.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Sep 26, 2011 5:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good post
I agree with Sander…I am DEFINITELY not saying Freeman will not bounce back, but even I told my friend watching the game yesterday “Freeman looks like s*** today” Josh is a gamer and hell, we all can sugar coat it anyway we want, but the lockout hurt. But again, I am not concerned at all with Josh, just hopes he rebounds
by Marlon The Okayplayer on Sep 26, 2011 3:38 PM EDT reply actions
I think this is pretty normal for Freeman
Last year (before the broken thumb) he was missing high on his throws. Yeah, I know, that was preseason. But it was preseason after a whole off-season of OTAs. Without those this year, he’s basically just finishing up his “warmup” to the season and still a bit off. I really think he’ll come around in the next week or two. Both with accuracy and decision making. I really think he missed the off-season working with coaches more than anyone. He needed it to keep sharp for the regular season and is just now kicking off the rust and starting to “improve” to what we all want him to be this year. It’s just 3 games in and we’re 2-1 and Free hasn’t been sharp. That bodes well for us actually, it means we can win without Freeman doing it all himself. When Josh gets it all together this year and back to what he was last year, everything will be firing on all cylinders. We’ll be tough to stop then.
Somebody needs to go re-break his thumb
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
FREEMAN
he is now playing against tougher defenses. the teams the Bucs play this year are much better and disguise their defenses better, all young QB go through this. the key is that HE IS NOT LOSING GAMES WITH MISTAKES, HE IS ALSO LEARNING HOW TO MANAGE A GAME, WHICH IS SOMETHING ALL THE GREAT ONES KNOW HOW TO DO.
JOSH WILL BE FINE GIVE HIM TIME TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND YOU WILL SEE THE GREATNESS COME TO THE TOP. REMEMBER PLAYING QB IS NOT LIKE OTHER POSITIONS, WHERE YOU CAN BE GREAT IN A YEAR OR TWO, BEING A GREAT QB TAKES TIME. MANNING, BRADY, ROGERS ALL TOOK YEARS BEFORE THEY WERE GREAT.
LEAVE JOSH ALONE AND DON’T PUT PRESSURE ON HIM TO ’ DO IT ALL NOW’.
I don't think anyone's saying he needs to do it all now
But I think he needs to recognize the weak parts of his game right now and make sure he doesn’t start losing games cause turnovers are the easiest way to make a good team suck in a hurry.
by T-Jack on Sep 26, 2011 4:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Short offseason, anyone?
He’s a third-year player with second-year WRs and RB and an offensive line still in flux. It’s a young team, and the short offseason and lack of time spent together at “real NFL speed” is going to hurt the team. I would say you’d have to expect the team is going to be a bit rusty considering their relative lack of experience. They’ll settle in as the year goes by.
The main problem is Bucs fans were spoiled by the latter half of last year; while I know that 15/1 TD/INT ratio in the last 8 games wasn’t reproducible, it still sets the bar pretty darn high.
Every team has to deal with the short offseason
Dominik chose to go with youth movement and says they are trying to win now. Can’t use youth as an excuse.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
To be honest. i'm scared.
Freeman has been very off this season. he had all this hype coming into this season because of the great success from last season. since the preseason freeman was off with his throws, a majority of them being too high. Freeman knows how he is so far this season. everytime he gets off the field you see him take off his helmet yelling at himself, or someone else. he needs to sharpen up or imma have to start yelling for them to put in JJ to give him a bit of a chance.
by Gage Tyler Bain on Sep 26, 2011 3:58 PM EDT reply actions
how do you know this?
freeman looks just like he did in the preseason. If johnson comes in and does just as he did in the preseason we could have a better chance for right now. If Freeman doesnt wake up by week 9 and is still posting up the numbers he is now or worse and we arent winning, we might have to give JJ a look to better the team, and his free agency status for next year.
by Gage Tyler Bain on Sep 26, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't bench your franchise quarterback after a few mediocre games
And when Johnson got a few snaps against Detroit he looked pretty bad.
We really shouldnt be comparing the two
Josh is on a whole different level, if jj was our starting qb, that would be a BIG step back
by Carlitin1988 on Sep 27, 2011 11:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
WHOA!
Slow down buddy, take your foot off the gas and put the “tanard jackson’s favorite substance” down. Please for the safety of everyone around you.
Forget Freeman, what the hell is wrong with Tom Brady?
Slacker threw 4 interceptions. I think he is regressing too. He should be benched or cut before it is too late. Um, even good quarterbacks suck sometimes. I am not worried at all. Freeman is a gamer. His teammates follow his lead, and the future is BRIGHT in my book. For me, it was kind of nice to see the team pick Josh up and carry him to a victory rather than the other way around. Bad games are all part of the growth and maturation process.
And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
Tom Brady has already thrown for 1,300 yards and 7 TDs, 5 picks, and is averaging 10.0 yards per attempt
Nice attempt at snark, but it isn’t even comparable. Freeman has thrown for 682 yards, 2 TDs, 4 picks, and is averaging only 6.4 yards per attempt.
Also, a pick is a pick, but three of Brady’s picks yesterday were deflections and only one was really on him.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
too literal
of an interpretation here LeeCaz. My point is, bad games happen. I think Freeman is fine. Just a young QB going through growing pains. He still gutted out a win, and made a heady play at the end with the offsides play to pick up the first down.
And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
by dryroastedsean on Sep 26, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Heady play and guttiness aside
Numbers catch up with you. His play needs to improve or this team isn’t making the playoffs.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
agreed
He will have to play better to get the Bucs to the playoffs. (as will the whole team) I believe he will. I also believe even if he does not this year, he will in time. I think over the next 10-15 years Josh Freeman will win a lot of games, regular season and post season, and it will be an exciting time to be a Bucs fan. I refuse to let 3 games in a player’s third season and second full year as a starter get me down on his ability and potential. I am not worried about Josh Freeman in the slightest.
And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
by dryroastedsean on Sep 26, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What makes you think he will be here longer than his current contract?
It will be nice if he stays, but there is nothing guaranteeing that.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Not at all.
Freeman likes to win. I can see him getting tired of not winning here if they can never get over the hump. I’m not going to think about years down the line. I’m thinking about his current contract. He isn’t from here. He has no ties to the area.
I can easily see him leaving and pursuing a bigger market if he blows up and feels the team is holding him back. Hopefully he is re-signed after this year and we won’t even have to worry about it.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Pretty sure under the new CBA anyone can get out of anywhere.
Franchise tags can only be used once (could be wrong). I hope he doesn’t leave, and I’m not even saying I think he will, but to talk about ten to fifteen years down the line is ridiculous in the NFL
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
yep
Franchise quarterbacks change teams all the time. Brady, Manning, Favre. None of those guys lasted very long with their teams in their prime.
And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
by dryroastedsean on Sep 26, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, you're right the franchise tag applies
But unless his play drops off, the Bucs just can’t afford not to sign him to a long term. They’ll throw money at him until he signs.
And it’s not like this team is the Bengals or the Raiders (of yore). There’s a lot of young talent here and the team does seem committed to winning.
I understand
but am just playing devils advocate and telling them it isn’t a foregone conclusion.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Free is not going anywhere
With the talent on this team and the positive direction there headed, fah get bout it…. Lol
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Sep 26, 2011 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Classic..
Another classic example of these guys thinking they are right since the write for the website.
Im pretty sure you dont even know Freeman.
You can write for the website too. It's more an example of me having an opinion.
and yeah, Free and I don’t really hang out that much anymore. Ever since he started going on Jim Rome he’s too cool to hang out with us local bloggers.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Unless he play really drops off a cliff there is no way the Bucs let that happen
None. Not even the Bengals could afford to have Carson Palmer walk out on them.
Also, who said anything about potential?
I’m talking about right now, this year. That’s all that matters in the NFL. Teams change drastically from year to year. You have got to take your shots when you’ve got them.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Got it
so based upon the way he has played thus far you should kill him immediately. Good point. OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!
And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
by dryroastedsean on Sep 26, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a good post.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
this team is building through the draft, for the long haul.
Were you thinking Rodgers was going somewhere else his third year? This team is being built with the principles that were used to build the Steelers, Packers and Patriots from the early 2000’s.
Go Magic/Bucs/Gators/Rays!
by chiefs_55 on Sep 26, 2011 10:15 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
the whole team has to improve
as does every team in the league…or it does not matter if u make the playoffs or not u will be a one and done…
I could not agree with you more
In his rookie season I was not nearly as high on him as a lot of people were because he had this propensity foe missing wide open receivers on a consistent basis. I started drinking the koolaid around the middle of last season but after watching him in the preseason I posted something very similar to this. He looked too much like 2009 Freeman and so far he’s not doing much that I can see to expel that perception. The accuracy stuff scares me but more than that it’s his decision making. Last season he got away with a lot of throws where they were jump balls. He also had several balls dropped that would have been intercepted. This season he seems to be a little over confident and as a result he’s already almost matched his int total from all of last season. I’m worried too…
by T-Jack on Sep 26, 2011 4:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I completely disagree that he has looked overconfident
If anything he has held on to the ball a little too long and not made enough risky throws. At the end of last year he was fitting a lot of balls into small windows with accuracy, and that’s what a successful QB has to do. He has not done that this year, and he hasn’t even attempted to do that.
ok ill just put it like this..
lets say the falcons would have scored a td the last drive yesterday… is there any doubt in your mind #5 would have drove down for a field goal… none in mine..i mean i see a lot of people say a Dungy type game..well it was with one major dif.. this team has a QB and other weapons to go down and win games when needed.. and thats a GREAT thing to have
Plus some key runs by free and Blount
Blount didnt have any long runs yesterday, but what he did do was chew up the clock and wear down the defense of the Falcons. Sometimes that is enough….. I’ll take that anytime
East Coast Fan
We just have to remember that the thrill of last season can distort our view of the present.
The team looks like a sloppy no off season version of last years to team in the first two weeks. Last year the bucs looked pretty bad for the most part. We just miraculously managed to keep coming back in the 4th. I hope we’ll continue to improve as the season goes along, and then really establish ourselves as a contender going into next season.
That's why I said the "...1st two games."
This last game really seemed like an abberation in many ways. We were ahead most of the game. I don’t think we ever trailed? Our defense was much stronger than the offense. Is this a new trend? Too early to tell.
by Brooklyn Buc on Sep 26, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
the last 6 quarters
id put our d against any in the league
Needs fourth quarter pressure
Freeman Needs to play as if he’s playing from behind. When he’s playing from behind he completes not only the check downs but down field throws. He has a higher QB in the fourth quarter than any other quarter. He really needs to step it up early in the game.
I also wonder if the Q4 comeback thing might have anything to do with youth?
Maybe other teams Vets wear down and our guys are just able to make more things happen when they get tired. Probably a pretty weak point, but I can’t quite get my mind around it. Time after time they dramatically improve in the 4th. You’d think by now they would be playing the whole game that way if it were that simple.
figured it out
there are really two Josh Freeman’s. The real Josh Freeman, and his evil robot duplicate. John Gruden, still feeling the pain of being spurned by the Bucs, has clearly created the evil robot duplicate and plugs him into games to make the real Josh Freeman look bad. What we must to do is eliminate the evil robot Josh Freeman! (and or John Gruden)
And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
lol could u imagine
Gru making a face a freeman after a int and free lookin at GRU hey dude dont make that face at me…i got this
Usually I would say what are you talking about
But this post is right on. I just think he will get it going as the season progresses. He wont have the great ratio as last year but he will still be great.
Freeman is still a young player with even some younger talent around him (experience wise)
He set the bar real high last year considering he was 15 to 1 touchdown to interception ratio in his last eight games…. Josh will be just fine. The offseason did hurt him and this team regardless of what some of you think… How could it not.
If you look at the quarterbacks (in general) that have had some real good games, they also have been with there respective teams and players for a while and have developed the chemistry already.
How many games has freeman’s wideouts have? not many… Benn (limited), Williams (one season), Parker, (few games), so on and so on….
I’m not saying that freeman hasn’t regressed, maybe he has, but I will take free over many other QB’s out there because quite frankly this kid is a gamer and a winner…
He will be okay fellas, give him time………
East Coast Fan
+1000
And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
by dryroastedsean on Sep 26, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
I think that the deep ball game has been stunted so far, and once the oline and WR’s can extend the play, you’ll more success.
Cant put the
Blame on freeman the O-line have to block their man but every week they play the D-line its always something new so my guess is why isnt faine checken any of the blitzers coming in or on the out side..
IF U AIN'T A BUC GET THE BUC OUT OF HERE
by WE GOING TO THE SHIP on Sep 26, 2011 5:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Putting the blame on the offensive line is absolutely nonsense
I know that’s everyone’s favorite scapegoat, but the line has played well in pass protection this season. Freeman was barely touched yesterday. The line is not the reason for Freeman’s meh play.
I'm not blaming the oline
Olines been good. I’m saying when they focus on the deep ball and extending plays where its an 8-10second play and Oline is playing SPECTACULAR; we’ll see more broken plays and more Big Ben type of plays.That was another big reason why last season, you got crazy highlight plays. Keep focusing on run but try to nudge that broken play in there and I think the Buc will get success.
I agree
The line is gelling nicely. Even Faine, who I dog on sometimes, is playiing well. Freeman’s meh play, is on Freeman. I just happen to think this is one of those things all great player’s go through. Talent is not enough, you have to grow as an individual player. Freeman is struggling right now, and I think that struggle often brings out the best in a person. I believe this will help him be a better QB in the long run. Winning when you kind of suck is a big step in being a great QB.
And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
by dryroastedsean on Sep 26, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
I don’t think this is a long term concern. Freeman will put it together and be fine. And honestly, if this was three years ago and we could say that the worst game a Buccaneer quarterback plays is a 67% completion, 180 yards, 1TD/2INT game with a win we’d be ecstatic.
HAH!!
That is a great point. Long gone are the days of should we start Griese or Garcia…
And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
by dryroastedsean on Sep 26, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed anyone can win when youre hott
winning and playing well enough and being clutch in a igly game is a true winner ..BIG BEN…
Josh dilfer Thats all i can say
The man will get it right. Maybe he’ll win a super bowl with Baltimore . Just kidding . Why so serious. haha Go Bucs Lets kickoff in thems coltes asss Monday night omg
I could not see the game .
Whatever…… Went to see detroit . God that made me sick . Im glad i didnt have to set there and watch that game,. It would have been murder. We play what they schedule for us . Big games soon.
Interesting report on tbo.com
Rheem apparently confirmed that Blac is his strong side backer relegating watson to his usual role.
Also states that as far as he was concerned Foster is now going to be staying on all downs including 3rd down and he is going to be permanently calling all the defensive plays.
I’m okay with all of that….
What do you guys think?
East Coast Fan
Love the news on Foster
not excited about Black being back. Foster is a beast!! I love watching him play and look forward to seeing him grow up in the system.
And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
by dryroastedsean on Sep 26, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Any of you guys ever jump over to tbo.com
I do periodically to get there perspective on the Bucs.. I have to say that I have never seen so many negative posts in my life about one team… Those guys are terrible and only look at any and all negative things about the Bucs.
alot of the posts about yesterdays game are very negative. I’m glad to hang here with you guys who know the game of football and don’t bash each other to submission. It is actually freaking disgusting and I don’t think I will read there posts anymore. It is extremely depressing and disturbing.
It is a pleasure hanging here with all of you and I look forward to our upcoming posts and comments… Everyone of you are okay in my book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!!!
East Coast Fan
Did you see the guy calling Morris a cheerleader, Freeman a career backup, and the team a bunch of thugs? Said they will never do anything, but claimed to be a fan.
and LeeCaz
Thanks for the great topic/post! Always fun to talk Bucs and love the good natured give and take on here!
And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
by dryroastedsean on Sep 26, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I am
a Texas Tech fan, so if I have my way LeeCaz would have to go into the equipment shed for 45 mins…
And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
by dryroastedsean on Sep 26, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said above
I am just playing devils advocate. My wife has already been made aware of the fact that if I wasn’t biologically constrained I would have Freeman’s baby. I literally love the guy. I just want to see him live up to his potential right now rather than later on.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
yeah i been over there..hated it
this is my fav site..i actually found it on accident.. i used to hang on the captains deck a lot thats a ok site..old school’s gang
I'm still blaming the lockout for a lot of the problems
That excuse is only going to hold for so long. He’s definitely been off and made some really bad choices.
I think the defenses have adjusted
A couple of things I have seen are that the WR’s are just not open…..the defenses are looking at last years success and shuting that down. Since we don’t have a Caddy any more to catch and run and leep them honest when the run gameis flat they can double the Wides. I was in Minnesota and was watching the defenses play the pass and they had Benn and Williams stuffed. We did make some noise in the second half once the run adjustments opened that up. Don’t get me wrong I love EG but Caddy seemed to have a knack of getting open and getting the first down. That made them play the short pass and opened the deep stuff.
I do think Josh is a bit off but just from trying to force the ball. If we can get the run established more (and make LGB catch a few passes would help) that will get more space for the other stuff.
I’m just a basic fan and not a coach but that’s what I see. Hey folks let’s face it…we have a “youngery” team. we will make mistakes and we will have growing pains. NO ONE expected us to do what we did last year. And in the NFL both sides get paid to do their jobs. A win is a win…..hopefully we will start taking advantage of the early oppertunities and get some “easier” wins. But every week we play a professional team. They work hard and make plays too.
I am excited to be 2-1 right now. We have looked shakey but I see improvement and that is what is important. Freeman can’t always be expected to carry the team….and this week the DEFENSE stepped up and did a good job.
GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One win at a time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When passes sail high
it’s usually a footwork issue. The QB is usually throwing off the back foot or at the very least not stepping forward onto his front foot well enough. These are things the coaches look for and work on in the off-season, because players (on their own) will play catch and work on timing, but can’t self-coach. They don’t see these things because either they’re not playing catch at full speed or the mechanics are ok when there’s no pressure. This is even more true with younger QBs that came from some sort of spread offense that didn’t require a lot of time in the pocket. I’m sure the coaches are working on the high passes. It’s gonna be up to Freeman to make better on field reads and decisions, but again coaching and film will help that. More veteran QBs didn’t need as much time in the off-season to work on those things, because they’ve been coached on them year in and year out for a while now. Even Matt Ryan doesn’t look as good as he has in the past. They know the playbook and can run the no-huddle offense, because that’s something they could study in the off-season.
Please don't get me wrong Bruce
I might be a little hard on Freeman, but it’s only because I expect too much after last year. I’ll take him over Ryan any day of the week, and twice on Sundays
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
The thing is...
Freeman seems like a pretty smart guy. He knows what the problem is and he’ll fix it in the coming weeks. I also believe that it is safe to say that if he stops trying to force the ball to winslow in the red zone (2 int’s) that we would have won those last 2 games handily. If Free gets his head on straight and The D keeps playing like they did against ATL then we should have no problem winning the division and going deep into the playoffs. YEAH I SAID IT!
At this point in the season, and a weird season it has been so far, we can see the contenders. Looking at the rest of the schedule, every game is winnable except one (packers) and i’m not counting that one out either.
The problem with this is, that we actually have to live up to our full potential to do so. who knows if they can achieve that. I do know it start with Freeman and he need to play better, bottom line.
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