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Bucs young defensive line leaves first game without stats, but shows promise

If you read some reports today, you would think that the Bucs were still starting Ryan Sims at defensive tackle. Even Peter King had to throw in a barb toward that defensive line in his weekly column. And at first glance, that may be deserving: no sacks, no QB hits and Matt Stafford throwing the ball at will, while that Lions running game looked strangely competent as well. But first looks deceive, and the defensive line performed much better than you would think from reading these reports. 

Let's start with run defense. While Raheem Morris claimed that the nose tackles didn't play well enough, the result was still pretty good. The Bucs gave up a total of 126 yards rushing, but 25 of those yards came on an end-around to Nate Burleson and a backward pass Tony Scheffler. Neither can truly be classified as runs. 

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Instead, the Bucs held the actual running backs to 101 yards on 32 carries, which amounts to 3.16 yards per carry. That's a pretty good total for any run defense. But it could have been even better - missed tackles and a nickel defense hurt the Bucs run defense.

As an example, the Detroit Lions came out with a three-tight end set. In response to that, the Bucs put a nickel defense out on the field, taking linebacker Mason Foster off and adding E.J. Biggers at cornerback. The result was predictably a 9-yard run. The defensive line did a good job on this play, but you can't defend a three-tight end run with nickel personnel. 

Another example of how the Bucs should have done better came on a first-and-ten run to open the fourth quarter. The defensive line gets great penetration, and Adrian Clayborn hits Jahvid Best six yards behind the line of scrimmage, but he bounces of that tackle. Then, Cody Grimm misses a tackle at seven yards back. Best then jukes out Biggers at five yards behind the line of scrimmage, before turning the corner and being pushed out of bounds by Ronde Barber. Because of sloppy tackling by the Bucs, Best turned what should have been a major loss into a four-yard gain. Whoops. 

Missed tackles were a big reason why this run defense seemed to be struggling, and why they could have done much better. This affected all levels of the defense: the defensive line, the linebackers and the defensive backs. It's sloppy, and there's no reason for it - but it's also something that is relatively easy to improve on. 

 

As for the pass rush, the Bucs never really got a chance there, but they looked very potent despite that. The Detroit Lions predominantly ran a short passing attack, where Stafford got the ball out of his hands within two seconds. When that happens, a defensive line has no chance to apply any pressure.

But when the Lions did go with deeper drops and Stafford needed more time in the pocket, the Bucs applied consistent pressure. It didn't show up on the stat sheet, but especially Adrian Clayborn and Gerald McCoy were disruptive. Gerald McCoy showed off his explosive first step both as a pass rusher and in run defense, while Adrian Clayborn was active and forced Stafford to throw early pretty often. 

We shouldn't be surprised with this result. The Lions ran a predominantly short passing game last year as well and have continued to do so. That offensive line had an adjusted sack rate of 4.3%, which ranked fourth in the league. That wasn't necessarily the case because that offensive line was great, although it's not bad either. Mostly, that was caused by the quarterbacks getting that ball out of their hands quickly.

In short: don't emphasize the lack of production, but simply look at the quality of play. As individuals, the Bucs had a number of good pass rushes and when given the chance did get to Stafford. There were still problems, though. At times the Bucs lost contain on their pass rush, which led to Stafford extending plays with his legs. And at other times, pass rushers got in each other's way. The defensive line was not rushing as a whole, but as a collection of individuals. Given the fact that the four starters had never started a game together that's not surprising, and it will take time for that to grow. 

 

All that is not to say that this was a perfect showing by the defensive line. In fact, Raheem Morris singled out the nose tackles as not playing well enough against the run, and I certainly agree with that. In addition, three penalties for jumping offside hurt the team, and this needs to be fixed. But this was, as in the preseason, a promising performance that shows the Bucs have a lot of talent on the defensive line. It may just take a little time for the production to equal that talent. 

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Couple of notes

The missed tackles, especially on the Best run mentioned above, can be explained by the fact that the D-line was gassed from being out there almost 40 minutes. I’d also put in that category the Rashied Davis catch where he gained an extra 10 yards simply because the D could not wrap him up and bring him to the ground. For my Lions, I don’t look at it as a 3.1/carry thing simply because they were playing so conservative in the fourth quarter (6 carries/7 yards). Take away the fourth and it’s 26 carries for 94 yards, a better (though not ideal by any means) 3.61 y/c.

I thought your defense played well until the point in the second where they got tired and exposed by the Lions’ skill players. Like you noted, the Lions play to not allow pressure to Stafford (for obvious reasons), therefore it would take exceptional circumstances to get sustained pressure on him. The defense’s biggest problem was too many 3 and outs on offense.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Sep 12, 2011 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea i agree

if anything the Lions defense was gassed. Suh didnt get a sack either.

by dcbucsfan on Sep 12, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sacks are not necessarily the best measure of how your D does.

Sacks are big plays, and flashy, but Freeman is what, 250? pounds and very mobile. The Lions’ ends wanted to contain him in the pocket and not let him scramble for time. Your OC countered by doing a lot of quick, short passing in a style similar to Detroit. The big difference is the Detroit uses shotguns and spread sets much more than the average NFL offense.

Detroit obviously was going to make Freeman beat them with his arm by controlling the LOS. Blount was not very effective running the ball, and until that last drive against a prevent defense, Freeman’s line was 4/7 for 44 yards, 0 TD/1 INT and a QB rating of 36.3. In the third quarter he was merely 0/1 and went out for the IV. His best performances came in the two minute drill at the end of the first half and in the fourth quarter when the Lions were up two touchdowns and playing ball control/ultraconservative.

The Lions didn’t get a handful of sacks, but I’ll trade that for a line that shuts down a good running attack and makes a promising young quarterback ineffective for large stretches of games.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Sep 12, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I wouldn't say the Lions D-line controlled Blount though...

The OC for some reason just chose not to hand Blount the ball – Blount only got 5 carries!!!! But i would say the Lions game planned a lot better than the Bucs.

Still waiting for the day that the NFL comes back to LA...

by LABucsFan on Sep 14, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

small addition

and until that last drive of the first half against a prevent defense

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Sep 12, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Great write up

Exactly what I saw… both times I watched the game. What was lacking was fundamentals. You know, the kind of things these guys go through over and over while they can’t hit each other in OTAs. I know they can’t work on tackling in OTAs, but they can work on tackling form with tackling dummies, and it was obvious these guys weren’t wrapping up well. Clayborn missed tackles more often than that 4th qtr play. In the first half, at least twice, I saw him get penetration past Backus, have the RB or WR (on an end around) in his face… and got caught flat footed. Just waiting for the runner to come to him. When they went around, he had no way of catching them. Fundamental football.

Personnel was an issue as well. Although it looked like a base 4-3 many times, Ronde was at LB with Hayes and Black. Nickel personnel in a base 4-3 look. I know Ronde is great in run support, but he’s not gonna beat TEs blocking all the time. Sometimes you need bigger bodies (Foster) in there to make the tackle, and take the hit in coverage. Foster was basically invisible this game.

by Bruce McRae on Sep 12, 2011 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Foster was basically off the field for the entire first half

He got on the field a little more in the second half and made some decent tackles, but he didn’t make a big impact.

I did think Hayes played a very good game.

by Sander on Sep 12, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a young team, there will be rough spots.

I liked what I saw of them. You’ll give everyone in your division fits this year.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Sep 12, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defense was really decent

As bad as the gamewas from a BUCS FANS position it was NOT the defense that was at fault. Over all they did a decent job…..no one can be expected to play that long on the feild against a good Lions attack and not get burned. The offense was horrible….and I blame the play calling not the players. You cannot go 3 and out that many times and expect to stay in the game.
Actually one or two plays and we were in it and could a should a won it. I don’t usually get too down on the play calls but dang…..
Okay….forget this game…it doesn’t really hurt us that much. Everybody in the South SUCKED (well except the Panthers (AAARRRGGGHHHH)) Let’s look at what went wrong…fix it…and get ready for next week.

I’m driving 700 miles to watch the game so we better be ready for the Vikings. Pick up our chins and let’s go….we are young (and hungry??) may be unemplyeed after that performance….and can get on a roll.

GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Steven Graves on Sep 12, 2011 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

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