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Dolphins - Buccaneers: Four disappointing Bucs on defense

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense played very well against the Miami Dolphins, with the defensive line standing out in particular. The pass rush was strong, the Dolphins had no room to run the ball and their passing game could not really get started. And despite all those positives, there were some disappointing players on defense. And yes, I'm only listing four Bucs because I'm having trouble thinking of a fifth. 

CB E.J. Biggers

E.J. Biggers showed Bucs fans why Aqib Talib is crucial to this pass defense. Biggers was matched up on Brandon Marshall for most of the game, and he had no shot against the star wide receiver. Biggers gave up a 60-yard touchdown pass on which Brandon Marshall juked out Cody Grimm and made Quincy Black look very silly with a stiff arm. Biggers didn't even look all that bad during the play, though: he had decent coverage on the play, played through the hands of the receiver, but Brandon Marshall made a great play.

Later in the game, Biggers gave up a 21-yard pass interference penalty against Marshall. Biggers did sort of redeem himself with a forced fumble, but he only made that play after allowing the completion and missing a tackle.

Biggers is a solid cornerback who can function well when going up against less-than-stellar receivers, but he has struggled to stop Calvin Johnson and now Brandon Marshall: bigger, physical receivers. Aqib Talib is a much better physical matchup for those receivers, and Myron Lewis could step in in a pinch as well. 

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DE Alex Magee

Alex Magee didn't even play against the Miami Dolphins, only one of two players to suit up but not appear on the field, the other being fourth-string quarterback Jonathan Crompton. Magee has done nothing this preseason and has barely even gotten on the field. I thought Alex Magee would make the team pretty comfortably before preseason started, but Magee is almost certain to be cut given his performance so far. 

 

CB Myron Lewis

Myron Lewis looked basicaly the same way he did last year: very talented, but still very raw. His pass-interference penalty against Brandon Marshall was a perfect example of his play: he was in position to make the play, had good coverage, but then never turned his head to locate the football, instead opting to handfight with Brandon Marshall. This will lead to flags every time, and Lewis needs to learn to turn his head and play the ball. Lewis has a lot of issues like that that should get fixed with experience, but as long as they aren't the Bucs can't fully rely on him. 

 

Head Coach Raheem Morris

I'm grasping to find some players who really played poorly on defense here, so I'm just going to go with a coach who got a 15-yard penalty for challenging a scoring play. That's just stupid. In addition, the many other penalties the Bucs committed yesterday and have committed all preseason are a real reason for concern. Many of these penalties are easy to avoid, yet the Bucs keep getting flagged. 

That said, I really liked some of the blitzes I saw out of this defense, and they got a couple of free rushers to the quarterback. That was very well schemed, and much better than the blitzes I saw last year. 

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So, the defense played so well...

that there were only four disappointing players last night, one of whom is a coach? Good thing Rah found out in the pre-season that you can’t challenge scoring plays anymore.

by GameManager on Aug 28, 2011 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I definitley agree. I just got done watching the recored game.

The defense played surprisingly well and I actually found myself looking forward to seeing the defense play which hasn’t happened in a while. Biggers actually had decent coverage on Marshall, but that was a perfectly thrown ball and Marshall made a nice catch with half a step on him. Talib probably would have made it harder to catch. Besides that one play though we were basically swarming the quarter back on at least 70% of the plays. Our run D looked MUCH improved as well.

I hope they go with Okam over Miller as he just looked like a monster in this game.

by IBleedPewter on Aug 28, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Biggers can run with anybody...

His biggest problem seems to be timing his jump while the ball is in the air. And, as far as Lewis is concerned, you hit the nail on the head. Lewis seems to be in good position most of the time but he isn’t doing a good job of turning his head and locating the ball. These problems will be corrected over time but for now neither one of these guys has any business covering elite WR’s at this point in their careers. We need Talib back healthy if we’re gonna make a serious run at the playoffs. I also think CB should be one of our top 2 picks in the 2012 draft.

by ctd1977 on Aug 28, 2011 2:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The great WRs will make their great plays...

and Biggers/Lewis had better get used to that, as we will see more than out share this season. The 2011 schedule provides a “Who’s who” of top WRs:

1. DET – Calvin Johnson, Nate Burleson
2. @MIN – Percy Harvin, Bernard Berrian
3. ATL – Roddy White, Julio Jones, Harry Dougless
4. IND – Reggie Wayne, Austin Collie, Pierre Garcon
5. @SF – Michael Crabtree, Braylon Edwards
6. NO – Marques Colston, Lance Moore, Robert Meacham & Devery Henderson
7. CHI – Devin Hester, Roy Williams, Johnny Knox
8. Bye Week
9. @NO – Marques Colston, Lance Moore, Robert Meacham & Devery Henderson
10. HOU – Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter, Jacoby Jones
11. @GB – Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson, James Jones
12. @TEN – Kenny Britt, Nate Washington
13. CAR – Steve Smith, Legedu Naanee
14. @JAX – Mike Thomas
15. DAL – Miles Austin, Dez Bryant
16. @CAR – Steve Smith, Legedu Naanee
17. @ATL – Roddy White, Julio Jones, Harry Douglass

There is a lot of size and speed on that list above. Hazard to say, we probably won’t finish 7th in passing DEF in 2011.

by Cracker Ball on Aug 28, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The quarterbacks scare me more than the receivers.

Another way to look at it, is who are the opposing quarterbacks. If you look at it that way, we face Stafford, Ryan x2, Peyton (maybe), Brees x2, Rodgers, Schaub and Tony Homo, I mean, Romo. All that’s missing is Brady and Rivers.

Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?

by Kilgore on Aug 28, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peyton should be in the lineup by week 4, but the question is how well will he play. The only comparison I can come up with is how he did when coming off his knee surgery and recovery. He started the season fairly slow and poorly, and took about a month to get back to his usual game. With any luck, he’ll miss a week or two and we’ll sneak our game in with the Colts while Manning is still off his game.

by KRoa on Aug 28, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

That list shouldn't shrill you

Our secondary has three playmakers, with Talib, Barber(still because he can confuse and disguise his assignment to make qb errors) and TJack.

by Titankillah on Aug 28, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not? We have a viable pass rush now

"I might not be shit to you, but my momma thinks I made it
We gon' ball 'til we fall or this Conjure get us wasted
And I never drink that white, all my women think I'm racist"

by 4QB on Aug 28, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

We had a viable pass rush for 1 pre-season game...

so you way want to reel that excitement back in a little. Let’s just see what happens w/ DET.

by Cracker Ball on Aug 28, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is against Jake long and the Dolphins BTW

"I might not be shit to you, but my momma thinks I made it
We gon' ball 'til we fall or this Conjure get us wasted
And I never drink that white, all my women think I'm racist"

by 4QB on Aug 28, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Miami Dolphins allowed 38 sacks in 2010...

even with Jake Long, which was good for 22nd out of 32. That sucks – BTW

by Cracker Ball on Aug 29, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have not watched the game yet,

But 15 penalties is NO excuse. This crap has to stop. If anyone watched what the Lions did to the Pats last night, we have a done of work left to do with little time.

If I could wear a bucs shirt with a noles hat for the rest of my life, by golly I would be the happiest man in the world.

by cazmoney1 on Aug 28, 2011 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Did anybody see the Lions game?

It sounds like they looked really good. May not be as easy a game as I thought.

by Brooklyn Buc on Aug 28, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

We should know as well as anyone that Detroit wouldn't be an easy game

if for no other reason than that we have a home loss against Detroit from a few short months ago to remind us why the Bucs weren’t playing in the postseason last year.

Now on Twitter @Carcillo_

http://twitter.com/#!/Carcillo_

by FloridaownsFSU on Aug 28, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not too upset with Rah's challenge on the TD.

They say that all TD plays are reviewed but right after the touchdown they went straight to the PAT. there wasnt a minute delay in the call. maybe because these auto challenges are to look for if the player juggled the ball, or got two feet in. Raheem wanted the play to be challenged and looked at for one specific reason. i dont like a few of the new rules this year.

by Gage Tyler Bain on Aug 28, 2011 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Defense played fairly well.

I really like okam in the middle, what a beast. He deserves to start over miller or at least be in the rotation more. When talib and jackson get back to playing we will be in much better shape. I love claiborns energy and hustle, I was a little skeptical when we drafted this guy but after watching him against K.C and the fins I have to say that i’m impressed

East Coast Fan

by Bucfan on Aug 28, 2011 5:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Gotta aggree on Raheem

It just never works when the head coach wears other hats as well (coordinator, GM). Head Coach is a full-time 80-hr/week job. Morris needs to find a coordinator who shares his philosophy and he can trust to guide the defence so he can do his job.

by Morgan71 on Aug 28, 2011 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

That's not even close to what I said

And there are tons of head coaches who are also coordinators. Jon Gruden used to run the team like that. Bill Belichick runs his teams like that. Andy Reid, too. Mike Holmgren used to. Wade Phillips did. Lots of examples of it working.

by Sander on Aug 28, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

This year will be telling for Raheem

Last year was kind of a learning curve for Raheem. He has upgraded his talent level although with extremely young talent. I think it will take more than a couple of years to evaluate his handling of head coach and D coordinator. His decision to toss the red flag on that one play for review was and is unacceptable, as head coach he should know the rules thoroughly. That was a rookie head coach mistake. Glad it was only preseason.

East Coast Fan

by Bucfan on Aug 28, 2011 9:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mason Foster has yet to impress.

He had a great hit on Ochocino but looks bad in coverage and cannot get off a block to save his life. He has talent but so did Piscitelli.

by jcmitchell on Aug 29, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Comparing him to Piscitelli is ridiculous

Foster has looked physical and fast so far. He’s improved in coverage every week, but he’s just a rookie there. I don’t know what you’ve been watching when he hits the line of scrimmage, but it sure doesn’t sound like you’ve been watching the same tape I have.

by Sander on Aug 29, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is that ridiculous?

Both were “physical and fast” but raw. I am not saying Foster flat out sucks, he has the talent to play in the NFL, but he should not be starting NFL games at this point. And he does have problems getting off the block, especially on runs to the outside.

by jcmitchell on Aug 30, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not true at all

"I might not be shit to you, but my momma thinks I made it
We gon' ball 'til we fall or this Conjure get us wasted
And I never drink that white, all my women think I'm racist"

by 4QB on Aug 29, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

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