Tampa Bay Buccaneers re-sign Adam Hayward to three-year deal, round out linebacking corps
by Sander on Aug 1, 2011 10:43 AM EDT
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PrintMark Dominik appeared on 620WDAE to speak on the Buccaneers, and announced that linebacker Adam Hayward had been signed to a three-year contract. Re-signing the veteran linebacker was always likely, as the Bucs needed a reliable backup linebacker. Hayward has the ability to play all three linebacker positions, and got some significant playing time at Sam linebacker after Quincy Black went down with injury. Hayward and rookie Dekoda Watson platooned and produced solid results at the position.
Hayward was a sixth-round draft pick in 2007 and is going into his fifth year in the NFL. While Hayward has never been a candidate to fight for a starting role, he has been a situational player and a core special teamer. Getting him back in the fold gives the Bucs a reliable option if a linebacker were to suffer an injury.
By signing Hayward the Bucs have rounded out their linebacking corps, which now consists of Quincy Black, Tyrone McKenzie, Geno Hayes, Mason Foster, Dekoda Watson and Adam Hayward. The Bucs also have undrafted rookies Nick Reveiz, Derrell Smith, Victor Aiyewa and Brandon Heath, as well as practice squad player Lawrence Simoni. Those players will have to excel on special teams to make the roster, and Derrell Smith and Nick Reveiz stand a decent chance of making it to the practice squad.
To make room for Hayward on the roster, the Bucs cut undrafted rookie RB Deonte' Jackson. I wasn't even aware that guy was on the roster right now.
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Agreed. I like Hayward as a player and he provides good depth
by Marlon The Okayplayer on Aug 1, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually like this signing...
was hoping they would bring back Davin Joseph, Adam Hayward and Cadillac.
Could care less about the rest and was hoping some signings would replace the rest. Oh well…
This Offseason
Has been an embarassment thus far. The only new player were bringing in is a punter, and we had that 2nd most money to spend in the NFL. I know people are going to jump all over this and defend Dominik/the FO but seriously, how can you sit here and say that the only player who fit our team was a punter?
Let’s be real people.
Adding Adrian Clayborn, Da'Quan Bowers, Mason Foster, Luke Stocker and others is hardly an embarrassment
Fact is that this front office has a plan that doesn’t really involve free agency much. They want to be the new Pittsburgh Steelers: draft well and develop in-house.
While we're "being real"...
Let’s also remember that, clearly, money doesn’t just land you whoever you want. A player actually needs to want to come here. If we’re to assume, just for a second, that we did in fact offer Jonathan Joseph and Nnamdi the most money, then by your logic they should be Bucs. They aren’t… because sometimes it’s not just about the money. I’m not going to pretend I know the reasons why they didn’t accept the offers, but it’s their choice to go wherever they want. Free agency is a two-way street. Get that through your head.
DO you know for a fact that they offered those FAs the most money?
Are you really that nieve that your going to just sit here and assume the Glaziers offered both of those guys the most money and they simply chose to play elsewhere. From all reports, we weren’t going hard after Nnamdi. And I don’t see why Joseph would’ve picked the Texans over us if we offered more cash than they did. The Texans offered him the most money so he went there. Stop sipping from the Glazier koolaid.
If you actually believe that many NFL players don’t consider MONEY as their top priority when signing, then you really don’t know much about what goes on in FA.
I know Nnamdi left a lot of money on the table to play in Philly
Whether that money was offered by the Bucs is unknown, and I doubt it. I still don’t think the Bucs were after Nnamdi very hard. But it is very certain that Nnamdi left money out there to be an Eagle.
Sometimes, players do choose winning or quality of life over money (just look at Carson Palmer). More money sure convinces a lot of players, though.
I'm giving them a Pass on Nnamdi
Playing for the Raiders for all those seasons and being 31 ensured that he was only going to go to a team that had a legit shot at a Superbowl this year (Jets & Eagles). Thus, I’m not blaming the FO for not signing him.
That doesn’t mean that there weren’t other great players available who fit our system who we simply didn’t sign. Considering how much money we have available and how much we need to spend, I would not have had an issue overpaying someone like a Johnathan Joseph.
Am I the only one who finds it suspicious that we signed no one after reportedly having made several “attempts” to sign some guys? What happened to that money that we were willing to give up?
The Bucs have preached about not overpaying for free agents
Though they seem to enjoy overpaying for their own players.
I think the way this front office does its business is set a value for a player, and then not exceed that. And to be fair, I don’t know if Free was worth what the Cowboys gave him for a right tackle (which is what he’d be exclusively here), and I don’t think Johnathan Joseph was worth what the Texans gave him for the Bucs either.
That may be true
But the Bucs seemingly set a very low value on just about every player except for punters. It isn’t just about a select few free agents who we didn’t land, it’s about the bigger picture – of once again doing absolutely nothing in free agency to bring in some help to complement our young talent. If there ever is a situation where it’s OK to overspend, it’s right now, for us, when we HAVE a boat load of money that we HAVE to spend.
To put it into perspective, the Eagles had less money to spend this off season than we did. I’m not saying we should’ve done what they did, but cmon, we only signed a punter. It’s also no coincidence that just about every major analysts’ lists of FA winners/losers has us as losers.
Punters are valuable players.
Did you see how atrocious our punting was the past 2 years?
We lost a few games because of it.
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
Punters take the field 3-4 times a game.
I don’t have a problem with that signing, but I do have a problem not signing anyone else. If any other team’s biggest splash in FA was a punter, would you really be sitting here saying they did a good job in the market?
Say what you want about youth and the FO "Plan"
But there is absolutely no reason why we couldn’t find ONE free agent who legitimately stood to improve this team both this year and for years to come. We had tons of money to go get someone, but we didnt. I have my doubts as to whether we even made an offer to a FA (besides the punter), and frankly that’s very discouraging.
I believe they made offers
but let face facts..one winning season, not nearly the stability that a team like the eagles have had long term..plus the blackouts here have not helps.. OUR franchise QB has had only one good year.. and the reason i belive they made offers..this is the same ownership that back in the 90 went after Simion Rice then brought in the highest paid center in the league.. they brought in derek ward.. they brought in Winslow then made him the higest paid TE its not JUST money
You're equating catching the biggest fish as being successful.
The Bucs are a young team that IS getting better. I believe we’ll be a better team this year whether we reach 10 wins or not. When the time is right, in 2 or 3 years, and our young team’s players are all in their prime, THAT’s the time to pull the trigger on a big name to get us over the hump. And IF our front office front-loaded all these contracts this year to create more leeway in the future, we’ll be able to do that. I don’t claim to know what they’re reasoning is behind not being active in free agency, but I Dominic deserves a little credit.
The scenario I outlined, in this as well in in other posts on this thread, is just as likely as saying “the owners are cheap” or “dominic is stupid.”
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
I *think* Dominic deserves a little credit
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
I'm equating catching A FISH to being successful
I never said it had to be the biggest fish. But we didn’t catch anything. We were a 10 win team last year despite several key injuries and suspensions (keep in mind a 10 win team won the Superbowl), there was no reason whatsoever not to go out and get a solid FA who could put us in a better position to make the playoffs this year. I’m just baffled that your all so content with doing nothing.
I thinkyou got caught up in the free agency whirlwind that ended the lockout.
You got your heart set on some particular players and now you’re whining like a child didn’t get a candy bar from the checkout aisle, not realizing that your parents (front office) have a very good reason not to appease your childish whims.
Pardon the metaphor, or simile, or whatever that was.
But the sky isn’t falling. Dom did exactly what he said he was going to do, which is to build through the draft and reward our own players. He just didn’t get caught up in the excitement of “the biggest Free Agency season ever!!!! Sunday, Sunday, SUNDAY!”
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
Some parents suck...
as many find out looking back on their life. With the exception of the DL, I feel we are stagnant.
by Cracker Ball on Aug 1, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
True about parents.
But the parents that feed their kids ice cream and soda are worse than the ones that don’t.
DL aside, our linebacker core has new blood, Biggers is going to be better this year than he was last year, and our O-line and offensive skill players will have another year together to grow. You might call that stagnant, but I see it as continuity that allows for improvement.
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
if we stay healthy we are cool
this is a well coached young team with talent..they are not a stupid team. they made very few young mistakes
I never said we should've got caught up in the FA Hoopla
I’m simply saying we had a real chance to improve our team and the FO did nothing. There’s a time to be content and a time to be active in improving your team. The steelers could afford to be content …. and we really should’ve done something to improve this team.
This is true
but the eagles alos got players to come in with great contracts..and that came from winning and the players believing they can win there.. let the bucs have a good year or two Freeman show more then one good year and free agents will beg to come here
Nope
Everyone with knowledge of the situation (including Peter King) has said that Nnamdi left a lot of money on the table.
Keep in mind that Johnathan Joseph got only slightly less than he did.
Every team has a draft...
I hardly count draft picks as off season additions considering every team makes them every year.
You should
Because they are new additions to the team. Every team makes draft picks, but not every team makes good draft picks (it looks like the Bucs had a good draft, though it’s too early to really tell), and lots of teams trade away their draft picks.
Also, the Bucs did re-sign a couple of players.
No one is suggesting that we stop drafting players...
but signing select F/As costs you nothing in the draft. There is no legitimate reason to not improve yourself when you can.
by Cracker Ball on Aug 1, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
It is all about sales technique... or lack of it.
Let’s also remember that, clearly, money doesn’t just land you whoever you want.
Especially true if you don’t try very hard…
Instead of taking a possible step backward this season...
with the more difficult schedule looming ahead, we COULD have come out of the gate running. It is clear that the Glazers will not spend real money until the league forces them to.
Yuck on our free agent signings in general...
by Cracker Ball on Aug 1, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Free Agent SigningS..
Is really just Free Agent SigninG. Dont forget the only player we signedis a punter, and then resigned some of our own guys who were going to become free agents. So we had 60mil to spend and brought in a punter. The amount of jokes in that statement are endless.
Oddly... not everyone here thinks they're funny
but I respectfully disagree.
by Cracker Ball on Aug 1, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Have you considered that we may have frontloaded a bunch of that $60M?
Thus in effect created more cap room for future years? Personally I would have liked to have landed a CB and some O-linemen, but if we don’t bring in any Free Agents beyond the punter, that means we’ll be in a position to go after guys in the next few years while the teams that really went after it this year are stuck with hefty price tags and are unable to re-sign their players. Going out and landing the big marquee agent is a sign that you feel you’re ready for the show (like Atlanta, Philly and the Jets seem to think they are). The Bucs aren’t there yet, so while I too wanted more action this year, I also recognize that they may be setting themselves up for future success.
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
Going out and landing a big FA
Is about improving your current team. It’s about making the team that you have now better. There were plenty of other teams who aren’t competing for a super bowl who were very active in FA and did a great job improving their teams. I’m not sitting here saying we should’ve signed 4-5 top notch guys, but I am saying we should’ve signed SOMEONE.
When they release the specific contract information...
on Davin Joseph, Quincy Black, Jeeseanotherflag Trueblood and the rest, we will find out exactly how brilliant Mark Dominik is.
… until then we will stand here with an open, empty bag that says “new players that make our team better” written on it. In crayon.
by Cracker Ball on Aug 1, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said...
the bag is empty. I got a rock.
by Cracker Ball on Aug 1, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
If this punter turns out to be a badass...
… I will remind you of said rock.
If he blows, I will say nothing at all.
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
Huh, really?
I like the signing. Solid backup, solid special teams players, knows the defense and can step in in case of injury.
Keeping your own good players is expected... and boring
stealing somebody elses good players, and punting your own worse players, is fun.
Yes… punting was a deliberate pun.
by Cracker Ball on Aug 1, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Meh, I've never been a big fan of his.
Backup/depth is fine, but I dno’t see him being any more valuable than a guy on the street.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Could have some outside speed...
especially so if that cig is laced with anything
by Cracker Ball on Aug 1, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
That dress would slow him up in the open field.
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
he would score if i was on D
id act like i triped before try to bring him down
He could pass a physical
I focus on money my hands touch
If that right there don’t add up
I gotta let you know your math sucks
You don’t ever talk to a calculator
You don’t get caught with an ounce of paper
Every convo is about a favour
by 4QB on Aug 1, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
So can we sign
that LB from The Seahawks? They just let him go
The Bucs could go after Lofa Tatupu
But they won’t. He used to be good, but he looked bad the past years. He lost a ton because of injuries and had offseason knee injury to both of his knees this season.
The Bucs seem fine with McKenzie and Foster at MLB.
they would not have ever let Rudd just walk
if they did not know that McKenzie was ready to go there is no way they just let Rudd walk like that.. not over 6 or 7 mil for 2 years..
according to twitter he is visiting Oakland.
by RuudAwakening on Aug 1, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I sincerely doubt that
You know, I was probably wrong to give much credit incarcerated bob. He was on point for the first couple of days of free agency, but he’s been completely off recently. And a substantial offer to a player who is coming off two knee injuries and didn’t look good last season when they just invested in two young players at his position? Not seeing it. At all.
I would have loved to land a top notch free agent
but even without that this team should improve alot, just from a year of experience for so many younf players. that alone and the drafted players should upgrade this team at 8 to 10 possitions easy
The schedule will be MUCH harder in 2011...
and those teams we play have probably improved themselves as well.
by Cracker Ball on Aug 1, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
MUCH = OVERSTATEMENT
I focus on money my hands touch
If that right there don’t add up
I gotta let you know your math sucks
You don’t ever talk to a calculator
You don’t get caught with an ounce of paper
Every convo is about a favour
by 4QB on Aug 1, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Just look it over...
there were teams that really underachieved last year (HOU, DAL, MIN, TEN) not to mention the playoff teams we will face (CHI, GB, IND), the improved young teams (DET that beat us) and finally our own division (ATL and NO twice each).
That is a tough schedule by any measure.
I did... but sadly I will be correct this year.
Unless Freeman can go 40 TDs and 2 INTS. A bunch of teams underachieved against us last year, and we squeaked by some other real stinker teams. I can’t imagine the Gods being so generous this time around.
Also Sander...
you should create that “how many Buc wins – and why” story and let people hang it all out there. It’s good fun to make it official AND referencable (yeah, I made that word up).
It's amazing what Green Bay managed to do last year
They just kept throwing in rookies and other inexperienced players for some really big-time injuries, and it worked.
i agree on a tougher schedule on paper
but this league is about injuries and depth to rotate players. if we stay heathy we will be fine.. we have # 5 and 3 or 4 recievers who will all be improved.
How much of a tougher schedule? We're going from 24th to 18th. Not that big of a difference considering the Falcs last year became the #1 seed with the same number.
I focus on money my hands touch
If that right there don’t add up
I gotta let you know your math sucks
You don’t ever talk to a calculator
You don’t get caught with an ounce of paper
Every convo is about a favour
by 4QB on Aug 1, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Same number being 18
I focus on money my hands touch
If that right there don’t add up
I gotta let you know your math sucks
You don’t ever talk to a calculator
You don’t get caught with an ounce of paper
Every convo is about a favour
by 4QB on Aug 1, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Over paying just for a "Big Fish" is crazy
I would rather be cheap and save that money so we can keep the young players that will demand big contracts in a few years. If we signed Nnamdi, we would not necessarily be able to sign say Mike Williams and LGB (if both aren’t 1 hit wonders) in addition to Freeman and Mccoy.
But Overpaying for a punter is OK?
If I was going to overpay for anyone, I’d much rather overpay for a Hall of Fame cornerback than a punter. I’m not saying we should’ve unloaded a truck load of cash on Nnamdi’s lap, but to sit here and say we shouldn’t offer guys $ so we can hypothetically pay our FA-to-be’s some 4 years down the road is pretty ridiculous. It’s wayyyy to soon to be thinking that. IE: Michael Clayton.
by J_B on Aug 1, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I personally don’t think we overpaid that much for a great punter, The only position we have any concern is at right tackle, and it looks like Free got a hefty contract from Dallas. I agree with the philosophy that you only draft starters in FA, otherwise you lose out grooming your younger players. Mind you this is my opinion only and if I knew what I was doing I would be a GM.
Osi Umenyiora has been given permission to seek a trade.
I think it would be a decent upgrade at that position. Is 29 years too old for this regime??
Deuce Lutui failed his physical, Ha
I focus on money my hands touch
If that right there don’t add up
I gotta let you know your math sucks
You don’t ever talk to a calculator
You don’t get caught with an ounce of paper
Every convo is about a favour
so your saying? (No one in particular)
We should bring in a big name free agent just to say we did, and to not be “boring”?
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