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When Sander posted his last piece, all was right in the world.  The NFL owners have voted 31-0 to pass the new agreement and it was being sent on to the NFLPA for voting and eventually re-certification. 

And then this e-mail dropped.

As you know the Owners have ratified their proposal to settle our differences," the e-mail states.  "It is my understanding they are forwarding it to us.  As you may have heard, they apparently approved a supplemental revenue sharing proposal.  Obviously, we have not been a part of those discussions.  As you know from yesterday, issues that need to be collectively bargained remain open other issues such as workers compensation, economic issues and end of deal terms remain unresolved.  There is no agreement between the NFL and the Players at this time.  I look forward to our call tonight."

I could try and spin this, but let me give you PFT's take on it.

Folks, there’s no way the NFLPA* will be approving the deal tonight or passing it along to the players for a vote.  And once the league has to start canceling preseason weeks and not just one preseason game, real money is going to disappear — and the chances of getting a deal done will diminish.

I'm hoping this is just an overreaction (could be likely), but lets keep one thing in mind.  Until both sides have agreed to and voted on a deal (and it passing), we are left with no football.  I agree with the take that once the first game is missed will be do or die time.  Either everyone will come to their senses, or it will all crumble.

Update:  The NFLPA still voices the opinion that they can reach a deal soon.

Star-divide

Here's another e-mail sent by the NFLPA to its player reps.

[The settlement] gives the players only three days–Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday of next week–to try to bargain any changes to the old CBA.  Any such changes would have to be agreed to by the owners in order to be incorporated into the Agreement, which would then become final on Saturday, July 30.  If the NFL does not agree to the players’ proposed changes, the old CBA terms on benefits, discipline, safety, etc. will remain unchanged for another ten years,”  In addition to depriving the players of the time needed to consider forming a union and making needed changes to the old Agreement, this proposed procedure would in my view also violate federal labor laws.   Those laws prohibit employers from coercing their employees into forming a union, and could result in any Agreement reached through the procedure being declared null and void

Lets just hope this is grandstanding for a few slight changes that can be agreed upon quickly. 

My opinion is that we're still a few days away and the owners are acting out of order and the NFLPA is dragging their feet.  Those two things dont go together well.

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Its absurd how much bickering is going on.

I think by mid next week this is settled, but they sure are making it tense in the meantime

As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.

by Buc Wild on Jul 21, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does it?

No dissension among owners (DA RAIDAHS don’t count, they’re crazy) makes me think this is an owner-slanted proposal, really.

Moreover, owners apparently ratified a proposal that had not been fully agreed upon yet. Interesting, but players are obviously not going to vote on anything they haven’t had the time to extensively go over yet.

Still, I’d expect this stuff to get done tomorrow.

by Sander on Jul 21, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it does...

as the NFLPA could have done the same by ratifying a proposal to the owners – but they did not. Too much internal squabbling on their side, not to mention the Logan Mankins/Vincent Jackson demand for monetary damages.

…and yes, AL Davis IS crazy.

by Cracker Ball on Jul 21, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Public pressure I exactly whay I am discussing...

and the players don’t seem to know what they want. They could have presented something to the owners, and because they didn’t do it first, it gives the impression that they are dragging their feet.

Either side could have made the first move – but it was the owners that did it.

by Cracker Ball on Jul 21, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The latest media spin makes it sound like the "unknown" elements the players hadnt seen arent that big of a deal.

The biggest issue (in my mind) is the Tuesday deadline. Forcing the players into a corner with language they havent discussed or agreed on will either lead to the majority of the players caving (not likely) or taking a more definitive stance.

As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.

by Buc Wild on Jul 22, 2011 7:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Well owners throwing in new terms(language) might be what causes a disruption

Because ofcourse, NLFPA lawyers are going to go over it and if they find such language unacceptable and deny it; Owners will have to re-design it or create a new agreement. So I think if the owners arent overly greedy and properly worded the document to previous negotiation terms, then it’ll probably be accepted. But if they’re trying to slip a fast one, I bet it gets shot down.. and this late in the lockout would only mean loss of alot of things. The owners are trying alot of measures now, TV deals and incentives for the players to cave (for what?? to train at NFL facilities ? PFttt) Their starting to smell desperate. I hope the players remain united.

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by Titankillah on Jul 22, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

The NFLPA is upset about that deadline

But as long as the language in the deal is fine, I highly doubt they’ll let that get in the way.

by Sander on Jul 22, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously... what is the worst thing that could happen here?

The players get to be millionaires again and we get some football. Sign it already…

by Cracker Ball on Jul 22, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

The deal was SUPPOSED to get done yesterday.

Did the players not know that something was happening? I’m confused. It does seem a little odd to me that all the owners except Mr. Burns voted for it. I had the distinct impression that owners were not all on the same page, especially between the big market teams and the Bengels. I’m going go up to NFL headquarters on my lunch break and give somebody a piece of my mind!

by Brooklyn Buc on Jul 22, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

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