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5 Free Agents to Avoid

A little while ago I talked about a handful of free agents that should be given a look.  I've finally gotten around to discussing the top free agents I'd rather Tampa not  bring in.  Some of these players are listed because I don't feel they will be able to contribute enough on the field, and others will have an asking price that won't be directly proportional to production.

This list also is going to assume that the current CBA will not carry over, so every free agent (whether they be tendered or otherwise) will be considered unrestricted.

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In no particular order:

Ahmad Bradshaw - RB - Bradshaw comes with many pros.  He's young, can catch out of the backfield, and is the type of back who would compliment LeGarrette Blount in terms of speed and agility.  Unfortunately he will be very expensive to obtain.  Tampa has plenty of money, however it would be better used elsewhere as Bradshaw would be looking for superstar pay.  They already have a feature running back and it would result in touches being taken away from Blount.  Also, for someone who will command a big pay day, Ahmad has injury concerns and tends to put the ball on the ground.

Ray Edwards - DE - Edwards has had a very career and is coming off one of his best seasons.  My issue is that he has been able to do great things on a great defensive line.  Lineman have to worry about the WIlliams Wall and also deal with Jared Allen.  Those three are each all-star caliber players, and that has enabled Edwards to unlock his full potential.  If he were to come to Tampa he'd be along side three players with a combined two years of experience.  Furthermore, he would start in front of one of the rookie DE's, stunting their growth.  The Buc's don't know what they have in Clayborn or Bowers aside from potential- and they have a lot invested in those two.  Naturally, if Bowers' kneecap falls out of his leg and Edwards is still on the market, I'd want to bring him in.

Zach Miller - TE - Unquestionably a talented receiver, he would contribute to a position that is not in need of his skill set.  Tampa has a better pass catcher in Kellen Winslow, and Miller is only a negligible upgrade at blocker.  If they were both on the field the defenses would know a pass was coming.  Miller would be wasted on the bench too often in case Winslow got injured. Fortunately, even though he has been injury prone in the past he hasn't missed a game in the two seasons he's been a Buc.

Terrell Owens - WR - T.O. had another great year, especially considering the fact that he was selected in the same draft as Keyshawn Johnson.  At 37 years old he would get a one year deal and bring poison into the locker room.  

Randy Moss - WR - Moss will be remembered as a more talented receiver than Owens, but he hasn't taken nearly as good care of himself.  He has slowed down and doesn't show off his incredible jumping ability if he still has it.  Moss' laziness has also increased with giving up on routes and choosing not to block on running plays.  Owens and Moss can be lumped together as old receivers that wouldn't be worth the veteran minimum- and neither player will accept that amount.  T.O.'s attitude would cause migraines and Moss would bring both a loud mouth and overrated ability.  Tampa has a stud in Mike Williams and Arrelious Benn is ahead of schedule on his knee rehab.  Fans also shouldn't forget about Dezmon Briscoe who has shown a lot of promise.  These receivers are on here namely because they will both go into the hall of fame, would sell a lot of jerseys, and would put people in the seats.  Those kinds of players have the ability to seduce teams into making the mistake of signing them.  Ultimately, wide receiver is no longer a position of need.

Disagreements and suggestions are welcome and expected.

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To not bring somebody in because of money is not the right way to go.

The league has been set up and has been running in a way where money is set aside for teams to spend on FA and resigning the best players. It is not always necessary to spend, but it’s not wise to not spend. Teams who don’t spend don’t win (Arizona, Cincinnati, Chicago). It takes money to make money, and there’s a player out there that will help this team, the money should be spent.

I'm not negative, I'm just telling you how it is.

by bucnut1 on Jun 7, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah i def agree even though i wouldnt want tampa to spend money a lot of money on any of these 5 guys but we should spend money on CB, OL, LB

hopefully dezmon can step up this year and take over the slot and benn keep up the pace as well as mike williams then we wont even think about signing a WR for a while, but we should try to spend money on defense and OL too

by Carlitin1988 on Jun 7, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The point of the article was that Tampa should spend money at other positions

instead of the ones listed. These guys would ask for a lot at positions that don’t need big free agent attention, and that would be wasteful. Also, money should be focused on retaining free agents like Davin Joseph.

I’m not against spending money on areas of need, just frivolous spending.

Gene Deckerhoff is a saint.

by jarldg on Jun 7, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

As most of you here know by now...

I am clearly not against spending money to bring F/A players in. I just don’t like the 5 particular players mentioned in the above story. Namdi – OK, Tulloch – OK, even Plaxico.

We need a CB, ILB, OLB and some OL help.

by Cracker Ball on Jun 7, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'm just misunderstanding you, but...

Arizona went to the Super Bowl a few years ago, Cinci won their division not long ago and Chicago went to the NFC championship last year (with Cutler and Peppers under contract).

On the other hand, teams that do spend (Dallas, Oakland and Washington) …. Well, they certainly haven’t fared better than the teams you mentioned.

If you will it, dude, it is no dream.

by Kilgore on Jun 7, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ray Edwards

This is the only one I disagree with. I think we have done a good job improving the D-Line through the draft, but you need depth and a rotation. I’d say we’re all set at DT for this season, but we need more quality Defensive ends (several on the roster can be cut as far as I’m concerned). Not least, because of the uncertainty of Bowers knee issues.

Edwards may have had little more than decent production on an excellent line, but from what I can tell he looks like the cream of the crop for what would fit our needs. Most of the free agent DE look like they’re coming from 3/4 teams. Edwards is a strong side end (Bowers presumptive position) from a Team that was built by former Tampa coaches, and resembles what we maybe trying to emulate now. He would also take a bit of pressure off of Bowers.

I also wonder what the D is going to look like after Raheem and Domenic have had their way for a few seasons. All those years with Monte gave us a strong idea of what the player template for different positons was. Now, who knows? We seem to be getting bigger, maybe a bit slower, but with a lot of talk about getting more physical. 3 man fronts, etc…

We’ll see.

by Brooklyn Buc on Jun 7, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

He would definitely look nice in the rotation,

unfortunately teams are going to be in a bidding war for him and his price is going to be ungodly. He’s an above average defensive end- I just don’t see him producing more than he did last year without a great deal of help. He’ll get a huge contract and sit in front of Bowers because of it. It is relevant, though, to mention the uncertainty in Bowers knee, which makes the decision tough. If Da’quan looks to be on schedule with his rehab before free agency opens I wouldn’t chase Edwards.

Gene Deckerhoff is a saint.

by jarldg on Jun 7, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

he will cost money

he’s a product of the other 3 guys like Sander said he’s not a guy who will command double teams in my opinion i mean if he came cheap then ok but let the other teams overpay for him… usually free agent linemen don’t workout outside of Peppers maybe… Domanik looks better on not signing Kempman last yr when we clearly needed a pass rusher he’s over 30 and coming off a serious injury 2 yrs in a row

by Brian Ahmed on Jun 8, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would add Plaxico

You can’t expect a Vick like turnaround, and he is too old.

by NHNole on Jun 7, 2011 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I have changed my mind...

and think that adding T.O. to play the slot WR position would be a good idea. We are pretty close to winning, and adding a tough and productive vet like T.O. does not exactly follow the new “Go young no matter what” mantra, but a 2 year contract wouldn’t exactly be mortgaging the future.

No one has really stepped up to fill the slot WR position, and he relishes crossing the middle.

by Cracker Ball on Jun 8, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

T.O. was basically a vertical receiver only last season

Plus he isn’t just old, he’s ancient, and he’s always been a problem for locker rooms. Besides, I don’t see how he’d work in the slot. He has very little short-area quickness left and isn’t great at boxing out defenders either.

I don’t see that as a positive move at all. Thankfully, I don’t think the Bucs would even contemplate bringing him in.

by Sander on Jun 8, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

we already loaded with wide outs

why would we take a chance on him… he will fall under the TO and Moss category as aging wide outs with baggage and besides we don’t know how much legs he really has after 2 yrs away from the game

by Brian Ahmed on Jun 8, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure how much trouble he caused in CIN or BUF...

The worst thing I can think of is that his “buddy” was Ochostinko, and drama is his middle name. I really doubt the Bucs would consider bringing him in, but he is in great physical condition and can still play the position.

As just a slot WR he would have few equals – and he never shies away from contact.

by Cracker Ball on Jun 8, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

And besides that, he figures to be a redzone weapon only

Which would add very little to the Bucs’ receiving corps.

by Sander on Jun 8, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would put Plaxico before either of those 2 wide outs.

I’d like Owens down here. He’d be a great compliment to our wideout core.
Moss, not so much. But at least he wasn’t in prison.

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on Jun 8, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wish List

1) Asmougha – Top dollar talent, but if Talib keeps out of prison, a tandem for the ages.
2) Jonathan Joseph – Mid-tier CB but potential for a higher status
3) Clint Session – A tampa 2 – ready LB’er from Indy; experience is welcome.
4) Keith Bulluck – A veteran (though against our youth movement) has the bulk to play inside LB if Ruud is turned away.
5) Ernie Sims – Helped carry a TERRIBLE D, shines when surrounded by talent. A play for Ernie could be the key.
6) Tinoisamoa – Chicago vet from a A+ LB corp; don’t know him personally so I can’t judge character or his ability to wing rookies.

- If another quality CB or LB was pulled, it really could complete this defense.

((b-town))

by Titankillah on Jun 7, 2011 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

If there’s a new CBA for this year, it will likely include a salary floor just like the previous one. That means the Bucs are going to HAVE to spend money, and I see no better place to spend it then on our defense. Asomugha would be a fantasy-football type addition to our team, but in the case of CB that’s not always a bad thing. With him and Talib we’d have two big CBs that excel at man coverage, allowing Ronde Barber to play nickel where he’s a demon.

I would challenge the assertion made in this article that we shouldn’t chase Edwards, however. Because of his limited production outside of last year, I don’t think his price tag is going to be excessively high. Also, Bowers’ knee is very uncertain. There’ve been many reports that Bowers’ might need surgery for his knee, which would keep him out his rookie year. Having a veteran presence like Edwards on a VERY young line certainly wouldn’t hurt, nor would lightening Bowers’ potential workload early on while there’re still doubts about his knee.

by KRoa on Jun 7, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only the best can run Man

And both Talib and Aso could… it would help negate Jones/White threat off the bat. That would leave Jones as a bust; and certainly a positive for Tampa.

I’m watching NFL live on the special for Bowers right now. Lets see… Hes walking fluidly on camera. He’s very excited to be a Tampa man. He says “his knee is good. Came a long way since January”..

“No pain – no swelling.. starting to feel like myself again”.

((b-town))

by Titankillah on Jun 7, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

only will go after Sims

the top corners i would go after only if Talib is suspended or cut but NA will cost a lot and i don’t think Domanik will throw away tons of money on a player while we are still building through the draft… Bulluck is old so i doubt he will come here and the other linebackers are system guys not difference makers however i think Sims is a guy who can make a serious impact he was always compared to our man Derrick Brooks

by Brian Ahmed on Jun 8, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

A better fit for us would be...

ILB Stephen Tulloch of TEN. He is only 26 and would make us forget all about Ruud.

by Cracker Ball on Jun 8, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be happy with either one.

Have to agree that Sims can be a game-changer; and Tulloch is a young, hard-nosed LB. I’d be perfectly happy with either. While I’d love Asomugha, I don’t want the team to spend the rumored $16-$18mil/year he may get. I’d settle for a cheaper Joseph and be perfectly happy with that.

by mvermulm on Jun 8, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Winslow injury prone?

He hasn’t missed a game for injury reasons in five seasons – missed six because of the staph infection in ‘08. Before that he broke his leg in the second game of his rookie season and tore his knee up in a motorcycle accident the following summer. So far as I know he’s had one football related injury in seven seasons. I’m not clear how that makes him “injury prone”.

by ravelston on Jun 7, 2011 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

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