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Buccaneers' Wish List - Offensive Line

                The longer this lockout drags on the longer we, as Bucs fans, are left to sit and wonder what, if anything, our team will do when free agency begins. Over the last two years, Mark Dominick and Raheem Morris have shown that they will likely not chase after the high-priced, first-tier veterans. It is hard to argue with their approach either, as during that same span they turned an aging, declining team into a young, lean 10-6 team that just missed a slot in the postseason.

                With this knowledge in mind, it helps narrow down the potential free agency field. So who will the Bucs chase? Who do they believe fits what they want to do? We do not work for the organization, so we can never be certain, but we can make some educated guesses. The offensive line played serviceably last season considering the myriad injuries that struck it, but considering the talent that was there it still played below expectations. Also, it's most talented player, Davin Joseph, is scheduled to become a free agent.

                See who the Bucs might be interested in, after the jump.

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                I would like to assume the Bucs realize the value of a large, mauling guard like Joseph, and will therefore assume he will be brought back. With that position solidified, and Ted Larsen having an ok time at the other guard position when pressed into service, that really leaves right tackle as the position most easily upgraded along the offensive line.

                At this tackle position, there are several good players who will become free agents when the new league year begins, but assuming last year's rules are still in effect, which appears more likely each day, most of them will be restricted in their movements. There are still several players that would likely be available under the 2010 free agency rules, however. Players such as Khalif Barnes of the Raiders, Shawn Andrews of the Giants, and Alex Barron of the Cowboys are all scheduled to become free agents, and all have the required 6 seasons of service to be considered truly free no matter which rules are used. Are those three truly upgrades though? Shawn has had injury problems, missing all of the 2009 season and playing in only two games in 2008. Alex Barron committed three penalties just in the time it took you to read this article, and has been penalty prone his entire career. The Bucs already have a tackle like that in Jeremy Trueblood, and while Barron may have more athleticism and talent, the mental lapses are disgustingly similar.

                The only true upgrade at RT who is likely to be available under the 2010 rules is Jammal Brown, currently of the Redskins. Whether the Redskins let him leave or not is another story, as they traded a 3rd or 4th round draft pick for him last year, and to let him leave after a single season would be ludicrous. That being said, Brown had an up-and-down season last year, but played well when healthy. While he is likely a better fit at LT, where he played during his years with the Saints, Brown has the size and strength necessary to play RT at a high level. While a slight injury history (he has missed time each of the last 4 seasons) will probably keep him from receiving first-tier money, Brown will still likely cost teams a pretty penny. Also, while his being 30 doesn't quite fit into the Buccaneers' youth movement, you can usually get more mileage out of an offensive lineman than other positions.

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I'm on board with Andrews or Brown...

Barnes and Barron are absolutely terrible. Both are penalty-prone.

Shawn Andrews and Jammal Brown both have a history of being on good offensive lines.

by Tiny iZ Boss on May 9, 2011 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Barnes I haven’t seen much of but yes, Barron is very penalty prone. I’d say he’s roughly as prone to them as Trueblood, and in my mind his higher skill and athleticism make him an upgrade over Trueblood. But again, James Lee played very serviceably when asked to last season, so lower-tiered free agents such as Barnes and Barron don’t make much sense unless you’re looking for backups.

Andrews’ injury history scares me a little bit, I admit, and I recall something about him having a music career or something that interfered with his Eagles’ career. Jammal Brown is a FA I’m hoping the Bucs chase, though. I think he’d be worth the investment, and give us a good set of bookends with Penn.

by KRoa on May 9, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assure you

Barnes is terrible also. Had all of the same problems in college, has yet to improve them. AVOID. AVOID. AVOID.

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on May 9, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like the see the Bucs and Pats...

work out something for OG Logan Mankins. He would fit right in and bring some Pro Bowl nasty with him.

by Cracker Ball on May 9, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, that will never happen. While Mankins may be able to walk in free agency this year, there is no way the Bucs will be willing to pay his asking price, unless we somehow end up with a new CBA that includes a salary floor like the last one, since the Bucs would have to spend way up to reach a floor.

by KRoa on May 10, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well... if they "have" to spend some

then they could do a lot worse. Namdi or Mankins… hmm?

by Cracker Ball on May 10, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good story.

I think the Bucs will only sign 1 free agent to the offensive line – Davin Joseph.

by LABucsFan on May 9, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

If you’re talking about just starter-caliber players, you’re probably correct. I wish sometimes they’d try and do a bit of upgrading, and Jammal Brown probably has another good 5 or 6 years left in him.

They’ll probably sign a few guys to compete as backups, but most of them will be undrafted free agents most likely. Under the 2010 rules there just isn’t going to be much of a free agent crop for the offensive line.

by KRoa on May 9, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

lets see if James Lee can be an impact player

some practice squad player came in because of an an injury and played ok but we kept talking about going to finding an upgrade but some how we didn’t and a few yrs later he became a pro bowl alternate his name is Donald Penn… Lee is like Penn as far as a practice squad player who filled in and played well so instead of overpaying for guys like Barron or Barnes which they both suck lets see if Lee can be a full time starter just for this season

by Brian Ahmed on May 9, 2011 6:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You have a very good point Brian. I don’t consider Barron or Barnes to truly be an upgrade over James Lee. If they choose not to go after a true upgrade like Jammal Brown, I would like them to bring in someone to at least compete with Lee, to push him. If Barron or Barnes were added I’d expect Lee to beat them out during training camp (if there IS a training camp). I’m also assuming Trueblood is a goner, so having someone with starting experience there as a backup would be great if anything were to happen to Lee during the season.

by KRoa on May 9, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Offensive hogs

Given our #2 ranking on the Offensive Hog Index despite the myriad injuries on the line, I’m not sure why we would be looking to do anything other than resign Joseph. Hopefully we’ll be healthy come the fall and, with Dotson coming back, should be in reasonably good shape. Couple of caveats: if we don’t get Joseph back we may need to go the FA route, and you could argue that the OHI isn’t so much a quality measure of the offensive line as a joint measure of them, the QB and the running backs. Thus the performance of Free in particular may have inflated their ranking. Even so, I think they take more criticism that they really merit and I don’t think any of the available FAs would provide much of an upgrade in terms of value for money.

by ravelston on May 9, 2011 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Any ranking that has the Bucs O-line 2nd in the league and the Colts' 7th is extremely flawed

I’d rather look at adjusted sack rate (though that’s largely a function of the QB,too) and more importantly, adjusted line yards.

The offensive line is serviceable right now, but there are a lot of weak spots and it’s not going to blow anyone away in the running game.

by Sander on May 9, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Effectively it's a joint measure

of the O-line, the QB and the running backs. The Colts had the lowest % of (sacks+interceptions) and a high % of third down completions – either decent O-line or brilliant QB……..wonder which? But their rushing sucked. The Bucs were in the top seven in both and also in yards-per-attempt rushing (they may not blow anyone away, but they ranked 6th in YPA) – i.e. high ranks all-round. More likely to be at least in part attributable to the O-line.

by ravelston on May 10, 2011 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, not really

The high average in rushing is largely attributable to Legarrette Blount’s long runs, but he wasn’t a consistent runner. There were a lot of stuffs to go along with those long runs.

by Sander on May 10, 2011 5:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

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