MRToTW (My Random Thoughts of the Week)
As far as I'm concerned, this was a great week for the Bucs and fans alike. The draft went well, and we got positions filled that were a necessity. We got a top 5 talent for a 2nd rounder, and we have some new talent in the backfield. But I'll get to all of that, in my random thoughts of the week.
The Lockout... Just Sucks
As everyone knows, the lockout is back on. Here is where the league starts to really hurt players, and in my mind cross the line. Now, UDFA can't be signed, so they are out of jobs now. The players we drafted? Can't get their playbooks or start to workout in team facilities. Players agents can't even negotiate contracts. Where that really starts to cause problems, is that agents have multiple clients. Let's take Tom Condon for example. He's one of the biggest agents out there, and every year he gets a bunch of rookies that want to sign him. He has to work out all of their contracts, along with other current players needing new deals. He can't do them all at once, and some players might miss some training camp (if there is one) because their deal hasn't been done yet. Both sides are responsible here, the players wanted to take this to court, and they lost. It's now time to stop the petty games and get the deal done before players start getting hurt.
Did we really just get a top 5 talent for a second rounder?
Yes... yes we did. I really love this pick and there are few reasons not to. Here's the first one, until the injury problem arose, he was in the running for the #1 pick in the draft. And we got him for a second rounder. Is this a big risk? Absolutely, if Bowers doesn't get on the field he'll be a bust. But, I'm actually very glad the front office is willing to take this risk. Players come back from big knee surgeries all the time and do well. Tom Brady for example came back from knee surgery. He's a QB, but doesn't change the fact that a knee injury isn't the end of your career. From what I've heard though, Bowers needs surgery. I'm not a doctor so I have no idea on his recovery time or if he'll play this year, but I do know that this will give him time to sit and watch and learn the D. It's not complicated, but it couldn't hurt to sit and watch for awhile.
I find draft grades useless...
Just for right now at least. Because we honestly have no idea how any of these players will turn out. We have no idea if Bowers will ever get on the field, if Clayborn will do well at all, and ect. We have no idea how any player will turn out. We can speculate and guess, but we won't know at all until we see them play. Not saying that you can't judge a draft at all, just judge if you got the needs filled. The rest is pure speculation and players can surprise you, or disappoint you.
Ahmad Black...
I'm usually all for taking players who might not have all the raw physical tools, maybe a little slow, not as strong. But to a certain extent, and Black in my mind goes beyond this. It's the NFL, and he's as slow as they come as far as safeties go. You can't trust him deep at all. I've said this earlier, but I'll do some math on his speed now. Say Safety A runs a 4.4, and Black well runs a 4.78. Safety A runs a yard in .11 seconds, while Black runs it in .12 seconds. While this might not seem like a big deal, in 40 yards, Safety A is almost 4 yards ahead of Black. Any receiver with any kind of speed at all will burn him deep, and that is a big liability. I'm not sure if he was hurt at the combine or something, but that kind of speed is just... not for the NFL. Not even special teams. We'll see how he does though, not saying we shouldn't give him a chance.
Positions in need...
While I'm not a huge fan of Free Agency, I think the Bucs might need to take a look at some OL or WRs. WR free agents rarely work out, but if someone out there is cheap, I say why not. Wouldn't mind a burner for a WR, but those usually come with catching problems so...
Overall...
The Bucs are headed in the right direction. The Saints and Falcons are falling, and the Bucs are very young but are getting better every year. We have our QB, our HC, and a bunch of young guys ready to burst onto the scene. I think it was a good draft but like I said, we won't find out until a few years from now. But then again, that's what makes football fun.
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The knee injury thing is different.
Torn ACL is much different than microfracture. Where ACL surgery was in 2000 is about where microfracture is today.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Reguardless
Doesn’t mean the end of his career. He’ll probably miss the first year, but then on who knows. Then again, I don’t know the severity and I’m not a doctor. So it’s all purely speculation
"Ha, I'd swear Monty you're the devil himself..." " WHAT, WHO TOLD YOU I mean oh yes... yes..."- The Simpsons
He didn't have microfracture surgery
He had a chondroplasty. He might need microfacture surgery at some point in the future.
That's what I was referring to.
I have zero knowledge of his previous procedure and the success rate in athletes.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
The Bucs took him
So I’m pretty sure they are sure he will be able to play next year. Most reconstructive surgeries take a year or so to get back to full strength, so my guessis that he’ll be ready by next year.
"Ha, I'd swear Monty you're the devil himself..." " WHAT, WHO TOLD YOU I mean oh yes... yes..."- The Simpsons
Bowers is great pick.
We took him. K2 has knee problems, Caddy survived two knee surgeries. The Power Fowards for the Knicks, A’mare Stoudemire, overcame a microfracture surgery (different sport, but he returned to form).
Bowers is going to unleash the fury on the NFC South. Like Bart Scott said, “Can’t wait” to see Bowers in action.
None of those guys had the injury Bowers has.
And for all the people you listed, how about the dozens if not hundreds or more of athletes (professional) who have had to hang it up due to knee issues? This isn;t an invisible, non-threatening issue. Bowers career won’t be 10+ years, we have to hope the 4-6 years we get from him are top notch.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
It's still fairly new
So not a lot is known yet. I don’t think we would’ve drafted him if it was degenerative or it was beyond repair. My guess is he’ll miss this season, and hopefully be back next season. Front office probably thought the same thing or we wouldn’t have taken him.
"Ha, I'd swear Monty you're the devil himself..." " WHAT, WHO TOLD YOU I mean oh yes... yes..."- The Simpsons
Also I'd like to add...
That Tampa has great facilities. Unlike some crumby teams like the Browns, where Staph runs rampant in the locker room and the knee doctors are so incompentant, players like Carson refuse to use team medical staff…. not the case here…
Agree with almost everything except...
I don’t believe we need another WR and I think Black will surprise you. I know I’m biased when it comes to Black since I’m a Gators fan but I think he’ll surprise you. True, he doesn’t have impressive measurables (vertical aside) but he’s a smart, instinctive player who would make splash plays late in critical moments of the games for Gators. Even if he doesn’t eventually start, the least I believe he could do for this team is contribute in special teams and/or be a 3rd down nickel corner. Not bad for a 5th rounder.
As for wideout, that’s one of the last positions we need to address. Would it be nice to have a burner who Freeman could go to deep? Absolutely! However, I just think it’s one of the last areas we need to address on the team though.
It's what UDFA are for
Pick up some great athletes with great speed and everything, and hope you can work out everything else. WR isn’t our biggest need, but a few UDFA couldn’t hurt at all.
Like I said, in the NFL, speed kills, and it goes both ways. He can’t be a nickel corner because we’d have to have a safety over the top on every play to make sure he doesn’t get blown deep, and he’ll get outran by any play that lasts more than 3 seconds assuming he runs at the same pace as the 40 time. Smart and instinctive is great, but lack of speed is what is putting me off now. Can’t wait to see him in preseason though.
"Ha, I'd swear Monty you're the devil himself..." " WHAT, WHO TOLD YOU I mean oh yes... yes..."- The Simpsons
Things i learned in the NFL draft: If you have cancer, it's a killer (no pun intended). You lose both your draft status and even possibly a shot at making an NFL team
Awesome, the Christian in Christian Dior
Damn they don't make 'em like this anymore
I ask ?cause I'm not sure
Do anybody make real s**t anymore?
Black can play
His measureables may be more than lackluster, but look at some tape on this guy. Despite his lack in measurables, Black will prevail. Just wait and see.
I remember somthing about a Bucs pick in the 90s
If I remember right, most people said that this Brooks guy was too small and weak to play LB in the NFL and that it was a waste of a first round pick. I think that one turned out OK for us.
So it goes
by Kilgore Troutish on May 12, 2011 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
Yes
But Brooks was fast. You can be small in the NFL and do well, and you can be slow and do well, but if you’re both you’re going to have trouble getting on the field, let alone succeeding.
That doesn’t mean Black he can’t do it, but he faces a lot more obstacles than most.
Black is a very fast player... possibly faster than Brooks
but he seems to lack the instincts of Brooks. My be nothing more than he is now – fast.
by Cracker Ball on May 12, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh... I am not crazy about that selection
Well, he was a gamer in college, but probably too small and too slow for the NFL. We probably should have taken ILB Quan Sturdivant, Greg Jones or DE Greg Romeus instead of another special teams player. Needs and could have utilized any of them more.
by Cracker Ball on May 13, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Black will be fine
last i checked persuite angles are more important than straight line speed anyways. Chances are he will be play nickle corner before he get on the field as a safety. There not asking him to come in and replace T-jack.
But now we have several S players in the mix...
like Sean Jones, Corey Lynch, Cody Grimm, Dominique Harris, Larry Asante and now Ahmad Black… not to mention T-Jack and his situation.
Most of those guys seem like special team players anyway. I really wish we were able to sign Michael Lewis (of SF) when they released him last year to make room for Taylor Mays.
BTW
4.7 40 is NOT slow…. it just isn’t really fast, there are several NFL WRs and DBs that ran a 4.7 and made the pro bowl. there are just alot more that ran under 4.5. BTW——Cody Grimm-4.7…… John Lynch-4.64…..Kilgore Troutish- 5.0
So it goes
by Kilgore Troutish on May 16, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions
Cody Grimm ran a 4.64 at the combine, though he ran a 4.48 at his pro day
And Ahmad Black ran a 4.78. That’s not remotely close.
But it’s not just his speed or just his size, it’s the combination of both that makes it tough for him to survive in the NFL. He’s significantly smaller than Grimm, too.
right its that hes small and slow, most small guys like huggins compensate with speed
by Carlitin1988 on May 16, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The only slow DB I can recall that was very slow...
and ever made it to the Pro Bowl was Dallas CB Everson Walls. I am of course referring to the modern era of football and not 1948.
by Cracker Ball on May 16, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Draft
Great draft for the Bucs..I agree…
by CoachSteveTucker on May 22, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions

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