Comparing Gaines Adams to Da'Quan Bowers and Other Defensive End Prospects (Past and present combine/pro day results included)
Da'Quan Bowers defensive end from the Clemson Tigers led the nation with 15.5 sacks and 24 tackles for loss (which was good for 150 lost yards for opponents). He also chipped in an impressive 63 tackles. These are some very impressive numbers, especially for a defensive lineman. Bowers smashed the Clemson record for sacks in a season previously held by our man Gaines Adams (R.I.P). Some draft pundits believe Bowers could fall outside of the top twenty in the draft because of lingering issues with his knee. If he is sitting there at twenty, it is an absolute steal for the Bucs to take a chance and swing for the fence. We might just knock one out of the park.
When the Buccaneers landed Gaines Adams in the 2007 draft, I do not believe he was the first player on the Bucs draft board. Mel Kiper, (who I personally no longer value his opinion) had the Detroit Lions pegged to select Adams. The Buccaneers were in the perfect position because either Joe Thomas or Calvin Johnson would fall into their laps. This of course is what Mel Kiper protested even during the draft as the Lions were on the clock. He guaranteed the Lions can't afford to use another pick on a wide receiver. Unfortunately for the Bucs, Kiper was dead wrong and Tampa ended up selecting the "best defensive player available" Gaines Adams. Adams most productive season as a Buccaneer produced 6.5 sacks, not horrible but enough to warrant Raheem Morris to call him out as a "bust" if he did not produce to the media.
Adams was the mentor of Da'Quan Bowers, after the untimely death of Adams, Bowers father passed away during spring practice. His last dying wish was for his son to become the top prospect in the NFL Draft. If not for a knee injury his son most likely would have made his father very proud. There are differences in the Bowers and Adams game, which I believe warrant a selection in the upcoming draft. Bowers would be more of an anchor on the defensive line, lining up as the left defensive end.
Most left defensive ends are considered bookends, while the right defensive end is looked at as the pass rusher. Bowers is athletic enough to get after the quarterback with consistency, but also hold his own against the run. Opposing tight ends will usually line up on the side of the left defensive end. When Gaines Adams worked out at the combine, he absolutely tore up the positional drills and athletic checks. His forty time was an outstanding 4.64, three cone was 7.19, broad jump an impressive 9'11" and his vertical leap was 35 inches (amazing considering Mike Williams jumped 33"). Adams never benched until his pro day when he put up 21 reps of 225lbs (Gerald McCoy put up 22). The game tape on Adams showed that he was weak against the run, even against college tackles. He really only had one move to get by his opponents, which in college he was able to get away with because of his pure athleticism. Gaines Adams played at 6'6" 265 lbs.
Da'Quan Bowers is not the athletic freak that Adams was. Bowers recently held his pro day, many scouts left uneasy. Bowers was only able to bench at the combine where he posted a somewhat unimpressive 22 reps. At his pro day the numbers were no more impressive. He clocked a 4.91 forty time (which I do not care about, defensive ends rarely run forty yards straight), the three cone drill was 7.1 seconds (which shows acceleration, or lack thereof), his broad jump was a 9'2", while vertically leaping 34.5 inches. Watching Bowers on tape did not justify his rather weak workout numbers. Game film says Bowers is explosive, plays with great leverage, and is strong enough to shed blocks one handed at times. Bowers is a physically imposing looking young man at 6'4" 282lbs.
Numbers like Bowers put up could possibly drop him all the way to the Bucs pick at twenty. I will give a bit of a chart to show how Bowers compares to other top prospects. Robert Quinn is the athletic gem of this draft, he also weights much less than Bowers however. I believe the difference in weight will certainly help Bowers hold up against opposing linemen. I included some of the premier defensive ends in the NFL today, just so everyone could see how this seasons prospects compare to their professional counterparts.
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Name |
Height/Weight |
40 Yard Dash |
10 Yard Split |
Bench Press (225lbs.) |
Vertical Jump |
Broad Jump |
Three Cone Drill |
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Gaines Adams (Clemson, JR.) (Round 1 Pick 4 No. 4 overall 2007)
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6'6"/ 265lbs |
4.64 sec. |
1.68 sec. |
21 (Pro day 3/13/07) |
35" |
9'11" |
7.17 sec. |
|
Adrian Clayborn (Iowa, SR.) |
6'4"/ 282lbs |
4.78 sec. |
1.61 sec. |
17 (Pro day) |
33" (combine) 35" (pro day 3/21/11) |
9'05" (combine) 9'06" (pro day 3/21/11) |
7.3 sec. (combine) 7.17 (pro day 3/21/11) |
|
Robert Quinn (University of North Carolina) |
6'4"/ 265lbs |
4.62 sec. |
1.61 sec. |
22 (combine) 24 (pro day 3/31/11) |
34" (combine) 33" (pro day 3/31/11) |
9'08" (combine) 10'06" (pro day 3/31/11) |
7.13 sec.
|
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Jared Allen (Idaho State) (Round 4 Pick 130, NO. 126 OVR) No pro day results |
6'6"/ 265lbs |
4.72 sec. |
1.68 sec. |
13 |
33" |
10" |
7.11 sec. |
|
Da'Quan Bowers (Clemson, JR.) (Pro day 4/8/11) |
6'6"/ 282lbs |
4.91 sec. (pro day 4/8/11) |
|
22 |
39.5" (4/8/11) |
|
7.1 sec. (4/8/11) |
|
Ryan Kerrigan (Purdue, |
6'4"/ 267lbs |
4.67 sec. |
1.61 sec. |
31 |
33.5" |
10'02" |
7.18 sec. |
|
Cameron Jordan (California, |
6'4"/ 287lbs |
4.74 sec. |
1.74 sec. |
25 |
31" |
9'09" |
7.07 sec.
|
|
J.J Watt (Nebraska) |
6'5"/ 290lbs |
4.81 sec. |
1.64 sec. |
34 |
37" |
10'0" |
6.88 sec. |
|
Aldon Smith (Missouri) |
6'4"/ 263lbs |
4.74 sec. |
1.66 sec |
20 |
34" |
9'10" |
7.19 sec |
|
Jabaal Sheard (Pittsburgh, |
6'3"/ 264lbs |
4.68 sec. |
1.59 sec. |
|
31"/32.5" (pro day 3/15/11) |
9'07"/ 9'04" (pro day 3/15/11) |
7.34 sec (pro day 3/15/11) |
|
Mario Williams (North Carolina St.) Round 1 Pick 1 |
6'7"/ 295lbs |
4.70 sec. |
1.60 sec. |
35 |
40." |
10'00" |
7.21 sec. |
|
Cameron Heyward (Ohio State) |
6'5"/ 294lbs |
4.95 sec. (private workout 3/31/11) |
|
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35" |
|
|
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Justin Tuck (Notre Dame) R 3 P10 |
6'5"/265lbs |
4.71 sec. (Pro day 3/16/05) |
|
24 |
37.5" |
9'10" |
7.33 sec. |
*All statistics and times from www.nfldraftscout.com
Jared Allen should be the first to admit that combine statistics mean nothing. Vernon Gholston was a workout warrior, an absolute freak for a defensive end according to the combine. Gholston has done so little to this point of his career, I will not even bother looking up his impressive combine. The point of my article is that combine numbers are great, but game film and intangibles are a much better scouting tool than men working out in shorts. If Da'Quan Bowers falling into the twenties is not just smoke screen by teams picking in the teens so he falls out of the top ten, I hope that the Bucs swing for the fences and hit a home run.
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Not always that
Sometimes takes awhile for people to read fanposts. Some poeple only come to this site once or twice a day or have work, or in my case went to sleep. It was a good post though man, you put a lot of work into this.
Colts vs Bucs Super Bowl, it's going to happen
Stupid!
I would not touch this guy with a 20 foot pole if i were picking for the Bucs. After Adams I don’t trust any Clemson DE.
love the stats
Good Job I like reading this stuff. Thanks Freeman05.
Thanks man I thought it was a bad article or something
I voted for Quinn but I highly doubt it is a realistic possibility. The main purpose of the stats were to show even though Gaines Adams looked like the best prospect, the conbine and pro days are NOT the ideal way to judge talent. Jared Allen didn’t show much according to the combine and he turned out just fine.
It's amazing how much better Gaines Adams looks with these numbers than the others
Puts those numbers in perspective
Great article bro!
As DRusinik put it, I would be reluctant to take Bowers after Gaines Adams was such an awful pick!!
If we selected another Clemson DE and he busts, it would be too much of a blight on Dom and Rah
Thanks guys appreciate it!
First Take just aired featuring the Bucs… Heath Evans says we are drafting Cory Liuget, Trevor Pryce suggests Randall Cobb. Pryce also said that in five years the Bucs will be special and the best team in the NFL.
I do think Bowers is a different player than Adams was.
Even though the bench numbers don’t exactly show that, I think Bowers is more of a bookend that can also rush the passer, Adams was pure speed rush who was limited against the run
Thats what I was thinking also...
his workout numbers suck but than again so did Jared Allen’s. Lots of teams looking to draft quarterbacks might want to trade down, maybe just maybe we could make the move up to get Robert Quinn
I think if Quinn is available at 15 we could move up.
The only other spot would be 9, but I don’t think they will jump that high though.
The problem with these physical freaks
Is that they’re usually lacking something. Technique, will to play, work ethic, ect. It’s like taking a speed WR who is really fast, but can’t catch. If he does learn to catch, then you’re great. But you’ll find a lot of those physical freaks are some of the biggest busts. The Vernon Gholstons, Heyward Beys, and Vince Youngs, they usually are really risky picks. But if you are willing to take on a project they are fine investments, but they don’t always work out like Adams didn’t.
Colts vs Bucs Super Bowl, it's going to happen
Good write up. I never investigated the stat/measurables comparison but suspected exactly what you found. Sometimes all the due diligence in the world can’t save you from drafting a bust. Gaines was projected to go as high as he did—and we picked him as high as we did—for a reason. Unfortunately stats lie. But so does game film, otherwise Gaines would’ve lived up to his billing.
Too bad we lost out on the Jared Allen sweepstakes when Minnesota nabbed him. The front four in the Tampa Two are the straws that stir the drink, so to speak. Unless you’re looking at a can’t miss prospect—which as you clearly illustrated is impossible to predict—maybe the FA route is the way to go a la Simeon Rice in ‘01. A proven commodity is worth the paycheck he’ll garner if it means avoiding a Gaines Adams landmine.

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