A new group of leaders
During the glory days when the Bucs had the most dominate defense, there were 3 guys who stood out as leaders, those guys were Warren Sapp, Derrick Brooks, and John Lynch. There were other guys who emerged as leaders and or play makers like Ronde Barber, Shelton Quarles, Booger Macfarland and so on, but Sapp, Brooks, and Lynch were the main guys. When that group started to split up our team slowly started to go down hill, Warren Sapp and Lynch were released in 04 and we struggled, after that we did some rebuilding made some playoffs runs but we were slowly losing our respect. Once we released Brooks in 09 we were officially rebuilding, and looking for some new leaders like Sapp, Brooks, and Lynch.
2 years into the rebuilding process our team has put together a talented group of players. But who in this group will step out and lead this new era of BucBall? There are some of our young guys who are already is picking up the pieces the legends left behind. 1 guy a leftover from the glory days is Ronde Barber, not only is he a leader on the field still, but he is instrumental to the success of our young guys on both sides of the ball. Ronde is also a guy Rah can turn to for pointers on how to run this team. But since Ronde is a left over sort to speak lets focus on the young guys.
Aqib Talib is definitely becoming a leader in the secondary. It seems he brings great energy to the locker room and he is guy we can lean on to make big plays to swing momentum. Talib is a player who can rally the troops when the chips are down definitely a key quality in being a leader. In our you linebacking core there is only 1 guy I see as stepping out as a leader, his name is Geno Hayes. In 09 Geno led the defense in what you can call factor points, this year he will come close to that again with 4 sacks 1 int and 1 fumble he was also 2nd on the team in tackles. Ever since Geno came to Tampa he has been scoring defensive touchdowns and making splash plays to give us momentum. Geno has made more stops for lost this year playing his role as the WILL, but he can be more consistent at controlling his Gap, once he gets that under control he will definitely emerge as the leader in that linebacking core. The only potential leader we have on our D-Line is obvious his name is Gerald Mccoy. Mccoy was born to be a Buccaneer but not only that he was born to be a leader. He was the leader of a Sooner team that is always loaded with raw talent, he took the lead when the 2011 draft prospects were nervous to meet Mr. Goddell, and before he got injured he was taking the lead on our D-line. Mccoy finished he rookie year with 22 tackles 2 fumbles and 3 sacks very similar to Sapps rookie year 17 tackles 1 fumble and 3 sacks. Talib, Hayes, and Mccoy are 3 guys I see who will eventually develop into leaders for our team. But by the way this team is being built there will be leaders who emerge on the offense side of the ball unlike in the previous era.
During the glory years Tampa had a few guys on offense who were leaders on the team. The A-Train, Dunn, Keyshawn, and Brad Johnson. But those guys got overshadowed by the guys on the defense side of the ball. That will not be the case with this group. There is a mix of young guys who can emerge as leaders on this team Like Blount, Zuttah, and Williams, but there are 3 who have already hands down stepped up as leaders.
Kellen Winslow Jr. a vocal leader who also lets his play do the talking on the field, he is a physical presence who will lead this young group of receivers into this new era. Donald Penn has stepped out as a leader along the offensive line, he is 1 of those guys who makes it easy on young players who have to come in due to injury. Penn also gives us that intimidation factor as many guys due no look forward to facing him on sunday, Penn dues a great job at keeping Freeman upright while watching his blindside. Josh Freeman what do i haft to say about him. Freeman is a clear cut leader on our team and he has become mister 4th quarter, our team will still be rebuilding if Rah had listen to some of the experts and drafted a DT in the 09 draft.
When our young potential leaders like Hayes, Mccoy, Talib, Williams, and Blount, catch up to our guys who are already established as leaders on our Buc team, we will be invincible. Thats right Bucnation, the key is in the ignition, we have a full tank of gas, and a brand new engine, all we got to do is drive the car. The question is who will be the ones driving it?
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followers will always follow.. leaders lead.. if a leader leaves and a follower starts leading, they wont be much of a leader lol
True leaders don't phase in then phase out...
shouldn’t confuse having a big mouth with being a leader. Our defense needs a bunch of new faces and hopefully a couple will be vocal veteran leaders – not just a veteran.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 17, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Geno isn't even the leader at his own house.
Remember when his girl stabbed him in the head a couple of years ago? haha
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Let's take your car metaphor to the next level...
“Thats right Bucnation, the key is in the ignition, we have a full tank of gas, and a brand new engine, all we got to do is drive the car.”
And avoid all the other cars on the road (the other 31 teams in the league), and not get caught doing anything illegal by the highway patrol (T-Jack, Jerramy Stephens, Talib, etc…), and make sure that we don’t blow a head gasket or crack our radiator (Talib’s hip, Caddy’s knees, Price’s hip, McCoy’s bicep, Grimm’s leg, etc…).
If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
These are all thing that happen to teams
but why think so negative, if injuries do happen then I believe there will be a EJ Biggers to replace the gasket, Al Woodson to replace the radiator and so on and so on. Guys will step up just like they did when key guys went down last year, there is only 1 player I think this team can not do without and thats Freeman, other than that I believe just like I know the 54 players who will be on next year roster will believe and that is guys will step up to the challenge. Heck the Cowboys sucked with no major injuries.
by keysersoze19 on Feb 17, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
They lost their starting QB Tony Romo...
so I would consider that a major injury. They also played extremely well after Wade Phillips’ dismissal – like you would have expected from them. And we will get a first hand look at it this coming season.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 17, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, yea, yea
they also played better with Jon Kitna as the QB, the same guy calling the plays when Wade Phillips was there was the same guy calling the plays when he left, maybe the change sparked them there is no doubt about that but with how their players played last season I will take our group over their group anyday
by keysersoze19 on Feb 18, 2011 4:34 AM EST up reply actions
I am no Cowboys fan...
but I think you’re wrong about them. They did not play better with Kitna. He is stopgap at best. As much as I hate it, I can see them making a real run in the playoffs.
I can only see us MAYBE making it TO the playoffs, but the schedule is very tough.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 18, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Romo is much better than Kitna
But the Cowboys have problems caused by issues other than injuries. Their running game doesn’t really work, but much more importantly: their offense line is bad and really really old.
those are problems
that young teams like our usually go through not a veteran team that is a title contender, that just makes us look good
by keysersoze19 on Feb 18, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn't being completely serious, keyser...
..but to be fair, you make it sound too easy sometimes. When, in reality it is damned difficult to have a successful season in the NFL. I don’t consider myself negative, and I think we’ll have a good year, but if we’re going to have challenges just like every team in the league.
Anyway, back to your topic of leadership, I think we have a lots of leaders who lead by example (Talib, Winslow, whomever it is that’s playing well), but not enough of leaders who simply exude leadership. Freeman without a doubt does it for our offense, but Ronde is the only guy who qualifies on our defense IMO, and he’s on his way out so kind of doesn’t count. We need a LB to step into that role. It may be Hayes, but it’s certainly not Ruud. He may be the QB of the defense, I can buy into that, but he’s publicly said he doesn’t want to be a “leader” of this team.
If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
I am looking ahead at what this group of guys can develop into
Mostly Hayes, Mccoy, and Talib, I think no I believe these guys will develop into not just leaders but all-star caliber leaders, and when they do rather it be next year or two years from now our team will drive its beautiful ride in the roughest conditions. I made a comment a while back on how, I always feared time in the glory days cause I knew that team will not stay together for long because of time, well I now embrace it (time) cause through time these young guys will become leaders to lead the ship through those challenges you talk about, there is no question of will these guys develop into leaders in my mind, the question is when? until then we will have to do it collectively.
by keysersoze19 on Feb 18, 2011 4:29 AM EST up reply actions
But it is ALL wishful thinking and speculation...
You have lots of things, in your mind, that you are absolutely sure of. Optimism is fine and all, but don’t let it cloud reality. We are not in any “glory days” and we have way too many holes and question marks that need addressing.
You are a rosy character though…
by Cracker Ball on Feb 18, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Everyone said
we had too many holes and question marks to win last year, there is just 2 major holes to fill and this team will be alright
by keysersoze19 on Feb 18, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
We won a few games...
but no playoffs. We will have a MUCH harder time this year repeating the 10-6. I say we sign DE Mathias Kiwanuka, S Bob Sanders and LB Rocky McIntosh then draft rookies to supplement.
Our lone victory over a winning team was tarnished when SEA beat them too…
by Cracker Ball on Feb 18, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Who cares
a few games we went from 3-13 to 10-6, no we did not make the playoffs but only 1 team came away this year without regret and that was Greenbay
by keysersoze19 on Feb 18, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
So PIT and CAR have equal regrets?
No last-place schedule to lean on – we will be the patsies for most.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 18, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
there is only 1 goal in team sports
and that is winning it all
by keysersoze19 on Feb 18, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
that's ridiculous
so you’re saying last year was a failure for the Bucs because they didn’t win it all? that the organization didn’t achieve a single goal? you’re saying that the panthers and the packers will have the exact same goals going into next season?
keyser, blanket statements are not your friends…
If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
I am not saying it's a faliure
but and Herm Edwards putit best “you play to win the game”, we had a good year the race to ten was not a goal just to win 10 games, it was to be the first to 10, so that we would have a chance to make the playoffs after that it’s any given Sunday, no matter what team you are and who you are you go into the season with 1 goal in mind
by keysersoze19 on Feb 19, 2011 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
Of course no one wants to lose...
but when considering a team that makes some great strides during a season, it has to be thought of as a success – even if the ultimate goal is not reached.
The upper echelon teams may feel that anything less than a championship is a poor season, but a team that is growing into something ( kinda like us) should really try to appreciate the gradual improvements as they happen. We still have a ways to go and I don’t think we will be a legit power for another 2 season – and that is assuming we can just continue moving forward at the pace we are now on.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 19, 2011 2:41 AM EST up reply actions
We aint do nothing
you we had some success a good season, but so what so did the Falcons, so did the Chiefs, No matter how good a team is or how bad the team is these players are competitors that want to win it all, the 99 rams, the Ravens in 2000, the Pats in 2001, none of those teams were on pace to win the superbowl when they won it but they did, the ultimate competitor is 1 that believes he or she can win it all no matter the odds, we have the ultimate competitor as our head coach, we have the ultimate competitor at QB and across the roster we have guys that are going to get after it that is the type of team that is being built here, I was not totally surprised we won 10 games why because we have a team of players who are tough competitors, do you really think they are telling themselves we are not on pace to win it all so we might as well stay on our current pace
by keysersoze19 on Feb 19, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
That is the single longest sentence ever...
by Cracker Ball on Feb 19, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
You out of periods?
Here ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………. Use some of mine, I have plenty.
by RuudAwakening on Feb 21, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I predicted 10-6 and I agree with Keyser
even at that feat, we really didnt move an ioda on the totum pole. ATL got us TWICE (which will bug me til next season) and while CAR was merked at our disposable, we beat NO only to miss the playoffs cuz of DET. We didn’t stand up on big games, not that we had alot last year, and thats excluding the monster comeback against the redskins. We’re gonna make the jump into the contender list, the Buc’s have to beat ATL next year, who are highly regarded among the entire conference. We have to keep ATL out of the race, out of the playoffs because thats our greatest enemy right now.
Bah, I don't think Atlanta really was all that good this year
I’m more scared of the Saints going forward than the Falcons.
I would expect both to improve...
which still leaves us at #3 in the division. It will require some very good drafting AND the desire to open up the ’ol Buc wallet and sign some select F/As.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 22, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
I expect Atlanta to decline actually
Their core players are all 3rd-year players or older (and some of them, like John Abraham, are old), and they had no notable injuries at all last year. That’s extremely unlikely to happen again.
I fear none of the teams in the division
unless the Falcons or Saints make a big time trade or free agent pick up, I think that our young group of players will over power both of them teams next year. I fear Carolina more than those other 2 teams cause u don’t know what to expect from them they could jump up and have a nice season next year you just don’t know, but with ATL and NO those teams just don’t scare me anymore
by keysersoze19 on Feb 22, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Well.. ATL got another WR
and we didn’t upgrade CB… And NO got another#1 rb and we didn’t upgrade LB…
“FA” *cough cough
((b-town))
I imagine the division standings...
will repeat themselves in 2011. I feel that both ATL and NO have improved themselves enough to keep us stuck in 3rd place again.
by Cracker Ball on May 29, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
We got a hard schedule this go around
I hope they understand that bringing in a key playguys could really get us over the hump. Franchise Qb.. need 1 LB and 1 cb and this team could be complete.
((b-town))
Well... 1 good CB and LB
while improving depth. We are really not that far away, and I enjoy eating crow for my criticism of the team last year.
One of your better write-ups key.
Thanks for putting some time into it. I don’t think Winslow is a leader though. Just because he is loud and vocal doesn’t mean he is a leader.
Formerly UNFNole
Need more facts...
and less Keyser-isms. You opinion doesn’t mean diddly unless you can back it up with facts.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 18, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Need more facts...
and less Keyser-isms. You opinion doesn’t mean diddly unless you can back it up with facts.
by Cracker Ball on Feb 18, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I mean
who else the young wideouts are going to turn to for advice, a guy who puts in a lot of production, makes big plays after big plays, Winslow is not a bad leader he was slowly becoming a leader of that Cleveland team before things started going down hill there, and he was a leader on an always talented U(Miami) team, some guys are born to lead Winslow is 1 of those guys
Obvious
I know this is obvious but leadership will have to start with Rah and Freeman. It is up to these two to keep the energy, enthusiam, and egos of this very young team in check. Right now, it’s great that there is competition among the young team for leadership roles, but the elite teams in the NFL right now have a Coach/QB leadership partnership. Last year this developed and I hope it continues to grow. Again, I know this is an obvious statement, but with such a young team with high hopes after a 10-6 season, Freeman and Morris have to lead this team.
by SpurlocktheWarlock on Feb 19, 2011 10:58 AM EST reply actions
Your are right and wrong at the same time
Greenbay has Charles Woodson, Nick Barnett plus their coach and QB
Saints had Darren Sharper, Johnthan Vilma plus their coach and QB
lets not mention all the leaders on the Steelers roster when they won it in 08, and all the leaders on the Bucs roster when they won it in 2002
From what I've heard
Gerald McCoy has been getting together the d-line men together to workout and work out somethings…
Buc 'em!!

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