Panthers - Bucs 24-12 after first half - Bucs hanging on after disastrous start - Second Half Game Thread
by Sander on Dec 4, 2011 2:36 PM EST
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The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have not gotten off to a fast start, but are somehow hanging on agains the Carolina Panthers. Despite giving up 99 yards on the ground for a 5.8 yard average and getting sliced up during the first two drives, the Bucs are still within reach of the game.
Newton has destroyed the Bucs' defense, but after the run killed the Bucs in the first two drives they've done a decent job stopping Jonathan Stewart and Deangelo Williams. Meanwhile the Bucs can't run the ball on this horrible run defense (Legarrette Blount has 9 yards on 8 carries), but Josh Johnson's scrambling and two big passes to Benn and Williams have gotten the Bucs 12 points off four Connor Barth field goals. It's a shootout, but the Bucs are not keeping up.
One positive: Da'Quan Bowers is having a little coming-out party today with 1.5 sacks, two tackles for loss and a pass defense in coverage.
Continue discussing the game here.
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I propose all NFL games be played in the 2nd Half.
what am I saying? We’ll still lose in the 4th Quarter this season anywho…
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If there's been one good thing about today...
It’s the photo Sander used for the first half thread…
Niiiiiiice.
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Carolina didn't earn that FG
so we pretend it never happened, right?!
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Let’s just keep it respectable in the second half
by Marlon The Okayplayer on Dec 4, 2011 2:44 PM EST reply actions
So did anyone else notice in that sideline report from the female field reporter
She says she talked to Morris and when asked about what they needed to do on offense he says generically “score any way we can” but when she talks about the defense he talks about getting pressure on newton etc… Is it just me or is there just a huge disconnect between Morris and pretty much anything the offense does…
Yeah but the head coach should not be clueless
As to how to fix problems with his team weather they be on offense or defense.
Not at all but he's usually not shy about letting fly with what he thinks needs to be done
It worries me that he didn’t indicate that he has a plan at least even if he didn’t enumerate the details
as much as politicians need to be fact-checked every time they're at a debate or talking-head Sunday show
the sports announcers need to be fact-checked as well. And in both cases, if the politician/announcer doesn’t have a f-cking clue what they’re talking aboot, they get the boot. To the head.
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What the fuck
was that?
A defense ranked #31 does not inspire confidence in one's defensive coordinator. Any head coach knows this: own up to it, Raheem- hire a full time DC and put your full focus on ONE of your jobs.
Faine should give Drew brees a thank you card for making him look soooo good.
Get it to Winslow. He's open!!!!
by dcbucsfan on Dec 4, 2011 2:52 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i think hes an ok pass protector.
he sucks as a run blocker and the saints dont run the ball so he had it easy. he definetly shouldnt have been paid the highest center in the league for his average at best play.
Get it to Winslow. He's open!!!!
Whoops
If we’d picked up Plaxico Burress, at least we’d have an excuse for shooting ourselves in the foot…
Call the station, inform them that you and your friends will boycott any broadcast that uses Mora as an announcer
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then it's time to ask your lawyer friends for some pro bono work
I’m sure they despise Mora as much as you do… ;-)
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my surviving cat Tehya wants me to stop chatting about a terrible Bucs game
and wants me to talk about her failure to capture that taunting lizard on the window sill…
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Apparently we are allergic to the red zone...
by flash_kiley on Dec 4, 2011 2:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
no, Olson, Rah, Dom and the cheap-ass owners killed our chances
when they short-sold us on the FA period and failed to sign a decent CB or a better ROT.
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"go for 4"
RAHEEM IS A JOKE! OLSON IS GARBAGE! THE GLAZERS SUCK!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Dec 4, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Game over
there is no way this Bucs team can score up to 30 points. Not in the shape it’s in, and certainly not the way it’s being coached on offense.
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We couldnt do it with freeman. what makes you think we could without him.
Get it to Winslow. He's open!!!!
We dont care about being in last or not..the Panthers do…
by Marlon The Okayplayer on Dec 4, 2011 2:58 PM EST reply actions
mora really wants to carry cam's gym bag
RAHEEM IS A JOKE! OLSON IS GARBAGE! THE GLAZERS SUCK!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Dec 4, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Six losses in a Row
They fired Gruden for four…
by ericshysterics on Dec 4, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
There was more to that firing than just those four losses
Like an inability to build a future for the team.
by Sander on Dec 4, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There would be more than these six
losses if they fired Raheem….
by ericshysterics on Dec 4, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
they fired Chucky for massive team collapse when they were 9-3 and threatening to win the South
plus, he’d had 7 years to build a consistent program but hadn’t. Team was down often and rarely up.
the lack of developing a core set of young players through the draft (Chucky preferred Free Agency and older players, while few of our draftees that had any talent stayed long enough to even figure out what the hell was going on) also contributed. I think it’s one of the reasons (the other has to be sheer spite) that the ownership and current GM don’t want to pursue sensible FA acquisitions the last 3 years.
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About time to give up
for a very undeserved contract that this team will give
by IceyPirate on Dec 4, 2011 2:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
so any takers the bucs will not score a first quarter td this year?
Get it to Winslow. He's open!!!!
That option play to the outside
the corner played it perfectly. He HAS to stay on pitch man. It’s disciplined football. He looks silly for not trying to make the play, but that was more on Clayborn / Hayes?.
Formerly UNFNole
On the bright side, we're moving up higher on the draft boards for next April
meaning we should get some decent picks in the First and Second Rounds.
On the downside, it also means the owners and GM will still insist on using JUST the draft to restock the team, not mix in any needed FA talent at a key position or two… The Bucs worked best when we mixed great drafts (1996 – 1997) with great FA acquisitions (McCardell, Brad Johnson, Rice)
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Considering the possibility of a total slide
We may be able to trade back for extra picks with a team looking to nab a QB.
A defense ranked #31 does not inspire confidence in one's defensive coordinator. Any head coach knows this: own up to it, Raheem- hire a full time DC and put your full focus on ONE of your jobs.
luckily the 2012 season is around the corner
so who are we getting with our pick? blackmon, claiborne, kirpatrick?
and who are we gonna look at for our OC/ DC and possibly HC? any ideas fellas?
Jim Mora SR at OC, Herm Edwards as DC, and Dennis Green at assistant coach
The greatest post game interviews of all time
Get it to Winslow. He's open!!!!
the locker room would explode with the force of 150 Hiroshimas
do we dare risk that kind of apocalypse on our world?
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Unsure who we'd get for OC if Raheem remains head coach... if Rah goes there's bound to be a complete turnover of coaches
…so, who’s out there for HC? Cowher? Gregg Williams?
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If Rah's still HC, I say we get Norv Turner for OC
If he’s fired, maybe Jeff Fisher as HC.
A defense ranked #31 does not inspire confidence in one's defensive coordinator. Any head coach knows this: own up to it, Raheem- hire a full time DC and put your full focus on ONE of your jobs.
Sander, can you do us a favor and post more pictures of the cheerleaders in the creamsicle unis?
otherwise, people are gonna tune out of this chat…
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Are we gonna stop short of tge red zone again?
by flash_kiley on Dec 4, 2011 3:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
this is why we still need taller receivers
any Na’Vi on next year’s draft?
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he's talking in code to the French resistance!
…“Wounds my heart with a monotonous longueur…”
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you're right, even the additional pics of cheerleaders ain't helping...
sigh
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I didn't have much hope for this game when I heard Freeman was out.
As much as I wanted JJ to be good years ago, he just doesn’t have it in him.
Freeman
A defense ranked #31 does not inspire confidence in one's defensive coordinator. Any head coach knows this: own up to it, Raheem- hire a full time DC and put your full focus on ONE of your jobs.
all-time?
Brad Johnson obviously. His 2002 season was one of the best a Bucs QB ever had.
I still have some love for Shaun King’s 2000 season, I just feel he didn’t get enough chances to learn the QB position once he got sent back down to the bench.
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i totally argee.
brad obviously because he got us that ring. shaun got robbed that year. and he had potential to make some things happen. had that same feeling with simms too. but trent was my guy. 97 was the year i was a bucs fan and that sqaud was so great
Get it to Winslow. He's open!!!!
by dcbucsfan on Dec 4, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So is it just me or does it make anyone else sick when our team is getting blown out
To see someone like EJ Biggers smiling and chatting with Steve Smith…
doesn't actually bother me too much
they’re like Wil E Coyote and Sam Sheepdog from those Looney Tunes: regular Joes clocking in and fighting over sheep.
…wait…
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Open Question: How many more losses
before the players start badmouthing the coaching?
Not until the last game and they can safely flee through FA
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He's gotta be thrilled FIU is coming to the Beef OBrady's Bowl
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put all of them in. gaitor, amahd black, resign daniel hardy and trade for allen bradford and put him in too lol
Get it to Winslow. He's open!!!!
I am loving Bowers today…what fight in that kid
by Marlon The Okayplayer on Dec 4, 2011 3:22 PM EST reply actions
love
Bowers. So glad we got him in the 2nd. I wanted him in the 1st….worked out for the better I guess
I had this nightmare last night
that Raheem was fired- and Olson was named interim head coach. Needless to say, I woke up screaming.
A defense ranked #31 does not inspire confidence in one's defensive coordinator. Any head coach knows this: own up to it, Raheem- hire a full time DC and put your full focus on ONE of your jobs.
and then you turned and saw Ray Perkins in bed next to you.
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that's odd, I figured this would have caused more screaming.
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Too horrified to scream...or reply
A defense ranked #31 does not inspire confidence in one's defensive coordinator. Any head coach knows this: own up to it, Raheem- hire a full time DC and put your full focus on ONE of your jobs.
Okay, I just need one more photo of a Bucs cheerleader before I log off
Sander, can you kindly post a pic of any of the cheerleaders that happen to a) be single, b) has a thing for librarians and c) a phone number only I can see? :hopeful grin:
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she's got a thing for librarians?!
but… then that means she’s not single. DAMN IT!!!! :cries:
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nah, that's just the wind making them look bigger
her pom-poms, I mean…
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damn buccaneer bruce is leaning back in that chair like hes punch drunk.
that aint gatorade in his cup
Get it to Winslow. He's open!!!!
Last week our run defense looked bad, this week our pass defense looks bad.
We just suck at everything apparently.
Oderint dum metuant
As been noted last year.
We need Talib out there.
So if we're picking in the top 5
Do we use it on Claiborne or do we trade it to one of the teams that will want to grab Barkley or RG3? Or do we do something completely unexpected?
A defense ranked #31 does not inspire confidence in one's defensive coordinator. Any head coach knows this: own up to it, Raheem- hire a full time DC and put your full focus on ONE of your jobs.
with this ownership/GM, I'd expect the Spanish Inquisition...
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I expect RG3 to go to Miami.
Regardless, I’d just pick.
Teams like Seattle and Miami
are playing their way out of the pick range where they can be guaranteed their choice of a non-Luck QB. We might be able to get some extra picks by negotiating a deal.
A defense ranked #31 does not inspire confidence in one's defensive coordinator. Any head coach knows this: own up to it, Raheem- hire a full time DC and put your full focus on ONE of your jobs.
Bucs can get a good CB a little later
And add extra picks. I love extra picks. Especially if it’s a future first-rounder.
I think that would be the smart call
We would miss on Claiborne, but might be able to still nab Kirkpatrick or Zach Brown.
A defense ranked #31 does not inspire confidence in one's defensive coordinator. Any head coach knows this: own up to it, Raheem- hire a full time DC and put your full focus on ONE of your jobs.
alright I'm out of here
getting fuses for the outdoor XMas lights. If I find a decent Offensive Coordinator on the shelf, I’ll see about buying one and maybe you guys can help with the gift-wrap.
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Later witty
A defense ranked #31 does not inspire confidence in one's defensive coordinator. Any head coach knows this: own up to it, Raheem- hire a full time DC and put your full focus on ONE of your jobs.
Broncos have Quinn as a backup, and Josh wouldn't want to be caught up the Tebow mess.
49ers have the one guy the drafted in the second round from Nevada, and Harbaugh seems to like Smith.
Oderint dum metuant
But he'll get a chance to compete for a starting job there
There’s Seattle, too. Buffalo maybe, depending on how they feel about Fitzpatrick.
They gave Fitz a huge extension.
They’ll give him one more year before they bail especially considering Fred Jackson went down
They just gave Fitz a huge contract, they are committed to him.
Seattle would be the best option I guess.
Oderint dum metuant
TD!
All right- 19 points to go in 6 1/2 minutes.
A defense ranked #31 does not inspire confidence in one's defensive coordinator. Any head coach knows this: own up to it, Raheem- hire a full time DC and put your full focus on ONE of your jobs.
Tebow manages to get one score late with a lot of time remaining
Not come back from a major deficit with just 6 minutes
At this point, I can say Tebow will find a way to win regardless of the circumstance.
Oderint dum metuant
He's won low-scoring games because his defense has played very very well
And because teams can’t figure out how to stop the option.
its official
We gonna lose out. The Jacksonville Kittens will demolish us as Gabbert looks like a perennial pro bowler and MJD hours for nearly 200yds
by BucFan727 on Dec 4, 2011 3:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Beautiful return by P-Parker!
A defense ranked #31 does not inspire confidence in one's defensive coordinator. Any head coach knows this: own up to it, Raheem- hire a full time DC and put your full focus on ONE of your jobs.
Bowers Clayborn Price and McCoy
This summer after the draft I wrote an article about nicknaming the dline. My favorite two were the Bowerrangers and the Kraken.
what is
the name of that Dragon in Greek Mythology…..you cut off one head and it grows another and keeps fighting? Lol
Even though
I like Price….I’m glad Raheem sent him to the locker…..stopped them on 3rd down….still in the game…dumb penalty that gave them a drive to spread the lead further….send his ass home. Kudos Raheem. Also…good job Parker!!
If he's going to do that kind of thing, should have done it with Talib weeks ago
Or any of the other players who got really stupid penalties.
How can Price be questionable to return if it's a coach's decision?
What, Raheem can’t make up his mind?
Not really
Didn’t even really get beat there. That was all Josh Johnson’s fault. Penn has been beat a few times, but that happens to everyone.
But compared to the rest of the season, he's having a bad day.
He rarely gets beat at all.
Oderint dum metuant
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