Buccaneers - Panthers 16-48: No Christmas Miracle For Tampa Bay
by Sander on Dec 24, 2011 8:09 PM EST
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These Tampa Bay Buccaneers have looked terrible for weeks. But today was Christmas Eve, and maybe a miracle could be expected. After all, these Carolina Panthers are not a great team and have an especially vulnerable defense. But, as so often this year, there were no miracles for the Buccaneers - only harsh reality.
Reality says that the Bucs are not a good football team right now. Reality says that the Bucs have given up, and are playing well below their talent level. Reality says that the Bucs can't stop anyone from running on them. Reality says that the Bucs have a terrible defense and an offense that only shows up occasionally.
The Bucs didn't force the Panthers to punt until the third quarter. Carolina managed to score on each of their first five possessions, and each of those drives ended in the end zone or inside the 5-yard line. All in all, the Panthers scored on all but three drive in the game - and one of those drives ended the game. The Bucs countered that production by turning the ball over six times, including twice on downs. They scored on just three of their drives, one of them a meaningless drive against a prevent defense in garbage time.
In short: these Bucs sucked, once again. A few things were different this time: accountability and offense - for a while.
The accountability started with the first play on offense, when Legarrette Blount fumbled a Josh Freeman handoff. Fumbled handoffs are officially credited to the QB, but that looked like it was Blount's fault. The result: Legarrette Blount was benched until the third quarter.
On the third defensive drive of the game, the Bucs allowed a 91-yard touchdown pass to Brandon LaFell. E.J. Biggers was in coverage on him, but he was expecting deep help from Tanard Jackson. The free safety instead was jumping an underneath route by Greg Olsen, leaving no one between LaFell and the end zone. The result: a touchdown given up, and Tanard Jackson was benched for one drive.
When he returned to the game he messed up again - missing an open field tackle on a 49-yard Cam Newton touchdown scamper. And once again, he was benched for Ahmad Black for one series. The discipline wasn't consistent across the board: Kellen Winslow and Sammie Stroughter stayed in the game after losing fumbles.
The offense also showed up for a drive, as the Bucs went 80 yards for a touchdown in the second quarter. Throughout the first half Josh Freeman was nearly perfect, going 13/14 for 127 yards, a touchdown and two sacks. The one incomplete pass came on a drop by Mike Williams. Of course, then the second half happened and he looked he has looked the rest of the season: inaccurate, uncomfortable and lacking help from his teammates.
This game was different in a few ways, but it was another embarrassing blowout loss. The Bucs have now allowed 40+ points in three games this season, the first time that has happened since 1976, their first year of existence. Their nine-game losing streak has only been reproduced in four other seasons: 1985, 1983, 1977 and 1976. The Bucs are producing a historically inept season, and they have one more game to go as they face the Falcons in Atlanta next week.
Merry Christmas, Bucs fans.
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I don't understand
how this team can be so horrifically inconsistent. They started out 4-2 for god’s sake. They started losing and it just snowballed. They beat the Saints once and got stomped the next time. Played well against the Packers and got destroyed by the Jaguars. I think a couple veterans on defense would help a lot..
We want the ball, and we're gonna score!
yea
But we said forget experience we dont need that. Got rid of our defence captain and also the guy that read the defence for our offence. Granted they both werent the greatest players but would have been awesome mentors. Also would have been that strong leadership in the lockerroom. But we dont experience we have youngry.
Ruud has been awful everywhere lately
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
You cant look at ruud like others
Barrett is a diff linebacker he always was. he is beyond smart.. Rudd made sure everyone was lined up right. Made all the RIGHT reads.. He adjusted to the O he is one of the smartest players in football hands down. Was he a big hitter? No he was not. but he was fast and could tackle ! Remember what that was? getting a guy on the ground!! His instinct arre so good , he got to plays other could not get to. He also made the players around him better. Our linebacker production as a whole has droped about 40% without him. just in tackles. thats around 80 less tackles this year out of 3 linebackers . not counting blown assignments. His wonderlic score was a 35 that is higher than 95% of the QBS in tthe NFL . Now what u see is a direct hit from his loss. Last year this was not a talented D. It is much more talented now.The diff is last year it was a smart D. now this team is so dumb is hard to watch.
Now u can look at our stats we have droped everwhere on D. then go look at TENN they are now up from the middle of the pack in D to a top 8 D .. And yes he has had a direct effect on that.
No team should start a Rookie middle linebacker at all. But the fact is. The Bucs could have kept a vet who was fast smarter and a better tackler than the Rookie they have. Now im not saying Foster has no future but over a contract a little over the league Min the Bucs could have kept Ruud here as a mentor and made a much better transition.. Losing him did not hurt just our middle linebacker play.. It hurt our intire D it reggressed two more young players who were just starting to show signs of being good nfl linebackers. Letting Ruud go was the wrong move..AND YOURE WATCHING EVERY SUNDAY!!!
He could tackle- that is the biggest joke ever
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
He could tackle just fine alot better than anyone we have now!
by BuCNasty-BooG on Dec 25, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx-tEYxC6Pw
Can totally Tackle
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
HAHAHA I knew someone would post that!
Theres not a player on Defense that hasn’t been trucked or missed a tackle in his career! What you fail to notice is that he was in the right position to make the play he went for a good form tackle instead of a trip or something these softies like to do these days and He slowed him down enough to only give up what 12 yards how many 15 yard plus runs did we give up today alone ON “UNTOUCHED” Rb’s! Last time I checked he averaged a ton of tackles over a 100 each season when he was with us.I bet you were one of those guys that thought Quincy deserved his contract huh? Oh and not to mention the fumble he caused against the Saints the 2nd time we played them last year to win the game! Good try bud
by BuCNasty-BooG on Dec 25, 2011 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
Missed a tackle? Where were you last year?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
They shouldve got rid of Brian huh!
Where are you this year?
by BuCNasty-BooG on Dec 25, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Did you just compare Ruud to Brian Urlacher?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
NO
Im simply showing you theres no LB that hasn’t been ran over.You were implying that he couldn’t tackle off of one play so why is that different for any other LB.
by BuCNasty-BooG on Dec 25, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
I wasn't talking about one play, I was talking about the entire year
BTW, go read all of last season’s threads- WE ALL HATED RUUD
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
So you ALLLLLLLLLLL were idiots!
Our Defense is twice as talented as last year but it went from a decent defense to a horrid one…..you AND ALLLLLLLLLLL of the people that agreed with you must have low football I.Q.. hey have you seen this happen this year?
http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d81d6186d/Rudd-forces-a-fumble
damn he didn’t miss that one! But you must have!
by BuCNasty-BooG on Dec 25, 2011 1:55 AM EST up reply actions
That play wasn't "completely" made by him
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Idiots?
The guy made tackles 10 yards down the field and he touched guys as they were running out of bounds 20 yards down the field. They don’t like him in TN either, guess they’re idiots too, well for signing him they are.
Raheem was the DREAM that turned into a NIGHTMARE..
Also, this year- Not from my mouth:
To explain a bit more:
1. Leader of the Defense: This year, Ruud never tries to fire up anybody, and looks unsure when he’s trying to audible against the opposing quarterback’s audibles.
2. Ability to Cover: Haha… That’s funny, because he has none. He’s given up at least one touchdown in 4 out of his last 5 starts, the only time he didn’t give one up was against the winless Colts and Curtis Painter.
3. Run Defense: Even though his tackling was already suspect, now he can’t even do gap control. Most times he’s not near the ballcarrier TO get run over.
4. His Audibles: I have seen a ton of audibles Ruud has made that have completely backfired. The most recent one was in the Falcons game, when he called for the linebacking core to all have short drops, which allowed the opposing tight end to run right past all of them for an easy pitch-and-catch touchdown.
The last game we won, Ruud was injured.
Official MCM Idiot
RIP Dinger
by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 24, 2011 10:46 PM MST up reply actions
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
By the way
last year he had 117 tackles I believe and when he did miss a tackle was in The “RIGHT POSITION” and slowed down a person considerably. Also he has 57 tackles this year in 9 games played and has played injured in half them games!
by BuCNasty-BooG on Dec 25, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
Tackles are a useless stat
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
If he couldnt tackle he wouldnt average over a 100 a year!
For Example BLACK,GENO!!!
by BuCNasty-BooG on Dec 25, 2011 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
Tackles also can imply that it was a team tackle, not one person
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
The problem has never ben the amount of tackles
More where they took place. Seeing your middle linebacker make tackles 7 yards downfield holding on to the leg of the running back like a 5 year old who is playing with their mom.
And like what was said a couple comments ago, Ruud wasn’t the leader we thought he would be. He wasn’t a Quarles or Nickerson. That fire and passion makes a difference to the whole defense. Obviously it didn’t help this year, but neither does our defensive line getting decimated with injuries. Ruud made a lot of tackles, no question there. And Birdman has put out a lot of albums. Does that make him good? Good God no. Quality over quantity…
by flash_kiley on Dec 25, 2011 3:44 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
still would rather have rudd in the middle than foster this year
ALL ABORD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
by dcbucsfan on Dec 24, 2011 9:06 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I know I didn't want Ruud here, but I actually thought they would replace him with somebody other than a rookie.
But it’s about the same to me really.
Raheem was the DREAM that turned into a NIGHTMARE..
Foster can tackle
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
I still believe this last year...
much like the previous 2 with Raheem at the helm, were “el-cheapo” write-off seasons used by the Glazers to stockpile cash, operate as blatantly bare bones as possible and probably finish paying off Gruden.
The big question is: What happens now?
by Cracker Ball on Dec 25, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, you don't give a rookie the starting nod
…without least winning it in some preseason competition. He was anointed starter.
It's a good thing that Ruud and Caddy got shipped off
because it exposed Morris. it showed how helpless and hopeless he truly is as a head coach. If those two guys had stuck around we might have won a few more games and the glazers would have forced Morris down our throats for one more year.
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Dec 24, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
I remember everybody loving Rah last yr lol
He has lost this team and yeah he sucks as a DC so it’s affecting him as a HC, but management has done him no favors by not bringing in veterans to help this young team in the locker room while he is still a young coach himself. Firing Rah won’t do much unless we bring in some players or it will be the same thing next yr no matter what coach we bring in.
by Brian Ahmed on Dec 24, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Youre right
This team is at the Min 6 players away. Not counting a year or 2 to develope into true contenders
Let's see..
Min 6?
Two corners
Outside linebacker
Middle linebacker
Left guard
Center
Strong safety
Change-of-pace back
Speed receiver
That takes care of the minimum…
by flash_kiley on Dec 24, 2011 11:35 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
so he was 3 OFF... LOL
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 24, 2011 11:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Kinda, he did say minimum.
I could add Right tackle and sadly Defensive tackle. Out of the 6 we have used this season, 2 are oft-injured and the other four are just warm bodies that can’t get off blocks or penetrate.
by flash_kiley on Dec 24, 2011 11:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
This could all be minimized very easily!
Keeping Talib love him or not he plays hard an is top 5 when healthy and when he wants to be really lol.We do need another corner badly!
Move foster to his Natural position at Sam and he will be very good and GEt us a good middle linebacker and Geno will shine. So thats 2 spots we need. Witch could easily be handled with the free agent class and draft this year!
I think Zuttah has played pretty well Penn has really failed us the last 4 weeks, and Faines got another year or 2 of decent play in him!Really your wrong we need to address RT on the line Trueblood is so bad its hard to watch. So thats 3.
SS easy for me Barber would cause havoc at the position he undersized but hes undersized for every position and is still are best tackler he would be an amazing SS!Still 3
Change of pace back Lamicheal James 3rd round in the draft alot of people have us taking him there! Thats 4
Speed Receiver I dont think we need a speedster as much as just a WR that can get open! Lets pray for Vincent Jackson!!!
by BuCNasty-BooG on Dec 25, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm
I said we need a right tackle. I can’t agree with you on Faine, he is getting mauled by EVERYBODY. Ronde at SS would be scary, he is near the top on the team in missed tackles. And he would get destroyed on deep passes. I agree on LaMichael James and Vincent Jackson, would be great additions.
by flash_kiley on Dec 25, 2011 12:47 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I didnt see your second post about the RT!
I agree Faine has had a bad year but who hasn’t on the team?He hasnt done half as bad as Trueblood.I just dont think hes somebody we have to replace this year we have way bigger fish to fry.Rhonde has missed tackles but has made big plays and big tackles consistently on the worst Bucs D Ive ever seen.I think Rhonde’s football I.Q. would make him amazing at SS I don see him getting burnt at safety he just has trouble off the ball these day at safety he has time to react! Bet hed do better than anyone we have now!
by BuCNasty-BooG on Dec 25, 2011 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
Barber can't play SS
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
I agree.
…Barber is the man…a future HOFer but, other than Black he leads this team in missed tackles…
I think Barber retires.
Purely because there will be a coaching change, and he has nothing to prove by learning a new system. I believe he can still play and would love to see him come back, but I don’t see it.
Raheem was the DREAM that turned into a NIGHTMARE..
Talib is a cancer on the team
The team preached character now they gotta follow up on it and get rid of this clown. Top 5 really?
Darelle Revis, Vonte Davis, Nhamdi A., Champ Bailey, Carlos Rogers, Jonathan Josesph, Leon Hall, Chris Gamble, Tracy Porter, Charles Woodson…
I came of with more than 5 corners in top of my head who are better than Talib.
by Brian Ahmed on Dec 25, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Not EVERYBODY loved Raheem...
There were a steadfast few that warned of this 3 years ago – but were instantly labeled as a malcontent, hater or whatever else you choose to put in here.
Turns out we were correct all along. It’s called “foresight” and being labeled a blasphemer is the price you pay sometimes.
by Cracker Ball on Dec 25, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Ruud was over looked and didnt get a contract that he earned easily!!!
He made Quincey look like he actually knew how to play football and Geno played much better being in the right position that Ruud often put him in! It would be a good idea to get im back if its a possibility! Foster is a true Strong side LB Hes not doing bad for a rook out of position but you can tell hes not comfortable at MLB!!! We Refused to pay Ruud what he earned but gave Black a contract he couldn’t earn in the Canadian football league.Horrible Gm move in my opinion.
by BuCNasty-BooG on Dec 25, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
We need to move Foster outside
either by draft or by FA. D’qwell Jackson or Stephen Tulloch could be leaders for this defense, and call the plays, allowing Foster to think less and react faster. Then pick up a linebacker in the second round, likely Lavonte David.
A lineup of David at Will, Jackson at Mike, and Foster at Sam would make us bigger and more physical.
*and on a sidenote, Blount’s fumbling woes are only gonna increase the push for Richardson on this site. He has excellent ball security.
by flash_kiley on Dec 24, 2011 9:08 PM EST via Android app reply actions
is foster playing MLB a reason why our d is worse than last year
I think so. he needs to be on the outside
ALL ABORD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
by dcbucsfan on Dec 24, 2011 9:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
oh yea
Trent Richardson
ALL ABORD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
by dcbucsfan on Dec 24, 2011 9:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i will take every player drafted in the first round and it still may not be good enough.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 24, 2011 9:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Richardson is elite.
Blount…not so much
by akbrown15 on Dec 24, 2011 10:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He is the kind of back u see rarely
He has no weakness to his game and does everything top notch.. he is tone of the back u see once or twice a decade
No
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Elite in RB years < Elite in any other position
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Yep, Sad truth
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
see: Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Eric Dickerson, Walter Payton, etc.
its football, people get hurt. It happens. So stay away from elite RBs? lmao. ok.
Running backs get hurt a lot more than players at other positions
And even when they don’t, they wear down quicker.
There are always exceptions like Sanders, Smith, Dickerson, Payton and others – but they’re exceptions, not the rule.
what's your point?
you haven’t revealed anything that anyone from the age of 5 who has ever followed american football already knows…
are you saying
to stay away from elite rbs in the draft because of this?
I understand its a qb driven league now, and RB is a great risk taking one high in the draft. And I dont want Richardson.
And then if this holds true, when do you get one? Hope to snag one in the 3rd round? By the time a good RB hits free agency, they are about wore out.
I can see your side of thinking, but I can also see the other side as well, and I dont know which is the best.
It is the Draft that is the gamble, not the position…….Refer to the 2007 draft as exibit A. Maybe the worst draft for any team ever. We had one 1st and 2nd rounders and got Adams, Sabby Pisctelli, and the G Sears. meanwhile, 16 Pro-Bowl caliber players went behind our pick including 2 RB’s in the 1st Round.
by LincolnHighNole on Dec 25, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Those are definitely some nice stats.
I think we should take a running back when we are desperate for one. Richardson is tempting, and if our defense played well at all I might think twice about getting him. There is just such a need at linebacker, corner, and safety right now. In my opinion, at least.
by flash_kiley on Dec 25, 2011 11:48 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah
if you want to be depressed, look at the players we could have had.
Revis, Woodley, Beason Bowe, Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Patrick Willis…
Makes me forget about Bo Jackson and that draft.
by LincolnHighNole on Dec 25, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Dang!! Yeah let's not think about that. Haha :)
by flash_kiley on Dec 25, 2011 11:57 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
This is one factor in why I'd stay away from using high draft picks on running backs, yes
Other factors are that running backs are not that important in the modern NFL, and that you can get good (though usually not elite) running backs later in the draft for cheaper picks.
The draft is always a gamble, but that doesn’t mean the decisions you make in the draft don’t matter.
Look at the Saints, for instance
They’ve had a committee running game for years now, with different players fulfilling different roles. It works very well.
If you pick a RB in the first round, you have a short championship window before that RB has a chance of wearing down
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
I dont think he is fast enough.
I think the only reason he fell to the 4th round was a 4.75- 40?
Raheem can't be retained.
Next week, 10 straight losses to end the season, we need to get a new voice.
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Dec 24, 2011 9:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
man, this new kindle fire rocks....
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 24, 2011 9:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
79 dollars right
ALL ABORD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
by dcbucsfan on Dec 24, 2011 9:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
the regular kindle is 79, the fire was $199.
It is awesome though…
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 24, 2011 9:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
whatcha got witty?
You write?
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 24, 2011 9:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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There’s a third one at Smashwords.com with a FREE download code, interested?
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Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
cool, i will check it out. thank you sir..
Merry Christmas to you and your family…
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 24, 2011 9:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was lucky to make it out of there alive
someday I’ll write a book about it
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Dec 26, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
too late, Tim Dorsey, Carl Hiaasen, and Elmore Leonard beat you to it
Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
did they write books about sex with strippers, booze, drugs, and rock n roll ?
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Dec 26, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Wait... what?
… and those are reasons to leave?
by Cracker Ball on Dec 27, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
no it was the stuff that all that led up to
riding on the hood of a speeding car, jumping from one balcony to another,smashing the electric meter at the seven seas lounge with a metal pole cause they threw me out, scaling the side of buildings too many times to remember, waking up drunk in pasco or pinellias county and having to hitch hike home, etc. etc. etc.
Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for prime time players are the worst team in Buc history, the 1976 squad gets a pass cause they were an expansion team, there is no excuse for this garbage!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Dec 27, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Now that sounds like a full day...
and the all makings for an awesome “made for TV” movie.
by Cracker Ball on Dec 27, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
The problems are acute
1) the secondary cannot cover nor tackle well.
2) the receivers are not getting good separation downfield and Freeman does not have the time in-pocket to find them.
3) the team has not settled on the right personnel for the appropriate plays being called.
4) stupid penalties abound.
5) lack of coaching is apparent.
Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
My opinion
1. Get Mo Claiborne and Tracy Porter, maybe Mark Barron in the second.
2. Get Desean Jackson, Vincent Jackson, Dwayne Bowe, or Pierre Garçon in free agency, and Nicks, the guard for the Saints.
3. New coaching staff
4. New coaching staff
5. New coaching staff
by flash_kiley on Dec 24, 2011 10:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Hell ill coach that team
and wont care what the OPPS are trying to do..ill just out score em and let them dare try to plass..lol you dont ask for much…shall I bundle in the victoria secret models or will the bucs cheerleaders be just fine:)
Only problem with that plan
We still need an overhaul of the linebackers.
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 24, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
what about that mlb for nevada.
he looks pretty good and they say he may go in the 2nd
ALL ABORD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
at this point
…it doesn’t matter who the Bucs draft. They could draft my left testicle and it would be an upgrade somewhere… I just hope there is a plan in place to get better football minds in the front office. The “go fors” have failed.
This kind of horrific play hasn't been seen since the Sam Wyche years...
Did we really get that spoiled during Chucky’s uneven tenure or what?
Even Dungy’s 6-10 first season with us wasn’t this terrible…
Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
say it one more time, please.....
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 24, 2011 10:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Extreme Makeover: Team Edition
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
3 hr drive I had to do to visit family today.
The drive was a headache but staying home watching this team gave me bigger headaches the past couple months so I’m glad I missed this game. What else is new, were we stupid enough to think we were gonna show up? I guess maybe we are thinking it christmas and they wanna give us fans something good but we should know better.
All I can say is it’s harder to make a case for Rah to come back next yr. I honestly don’t think this is all his fault and I wanted to see if the proper changes were made, he can suceed next yr but this season has been so ugly especially lately I think he has sealed his fate.
#6 right now
If we lose next week, and the Jags and Browns lose, we can go up to #4
by flash_kiley on Dec 24, 2011 11:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I meant if Jags and Browns win,
and I think if the Vikings win, we pass them too.
by flash_kiley on Dec 24, 2011 11:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
After reading this write up, I have no regrets about not watching this game.
I’m just looking forward to the end of the regular season, so I can watch what talented and well coached teams look like.
Oderint dum metuant
I want to say a few positives, because its christmas
We do have a QB,LT….thinking hard…..Barber….eeeh, two young DE that play hard…..man this is tuff…..and a partridge in a pear tree. Harder than I thought it was going to be. We will have a good draft pick, and you know how the last team in the south always rises next year. Who the hell am I kidding, we have a long road ahead but it will make it that much more sweet in the end. Merry xmas buc fans and salute!
merry christmas fellow buc fans
what can we do with the 6? claiborne will not fall to us. what’s our best bet now?
If we stay out 6 our best case scenario is to trade back and draft Keuchly
and use the extra second rounder on Mark Barron and Brandon Boykin. Use the third rounder on LaMichael James. And hopefully we can pull a fourth in the trade and get RT or LG. Obviously, this is only my opinion. I am welcome to the criticisms it may receive. I like new ideas.
by flash_kiley on Dec 25, 2011 3:51 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
That's probably the best idea
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Good plan
The problem is finding a draft partner who wants #6 overall and is picking high enough that we still have a shot at Kuechly.
Nine straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 25, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah maybe we can find someone desperate for another piece.
Alshon Jeffrey, Dre Kirkpatrick, quite possibly RG3 could be there. Look at the pull the Browns got for Julio Jones. That would be HUGE for us!
by flash_kiley on Dec 25, 2011 11:53 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Have been reading you guys post for a while now
For once, I feel obliged to say something that nobody else has said. We looked horrible today. On both sides of the ball. But, in that drive, when Blount was taken out, we looked like an unpredictable offense. The same kind of offense that the top teams use. Lumpkin played out of the backfield. Not the best at his position, but decent enough to do good playing out of the back for that drive. I loved blount, but it made me realize how useless he is. I think that is what we, and every other NFL offense needs. Hey, maybe we are going to run it, maybe we are going to throw to the flats, or maybe our 12 for 13 QB is going to throw it down your throat.
Freeman
good observations, and I like Blount too (haha) because he is from North Flor-I-Da but you might be on to something.
I wonder if we are going to live and die with Freeman, why dont we run him more? Why doesnt he scramble more? The NFL has changed and Freeman has some wheels.
His last season at Kansas he had 14 rushing TD’s. And in his 2010 season he averaged 5.4 per 68 touches. He had 29 first downs rushing and 2 fumbles. Freeman looks like he does not trust our receivers or OL, so maybe he should take off and run more. Run Freeman Run! 8 times a game is all I ask.
By Comparison, Cam Newton averages 5.6 ypc, and has 120 attemps. Thats about 8 carries a game, but what a huge difference it makes. His 14 TD’s rushing dont look bad either. Look what the threat of rushing does for that scrub Tebow (dont kill me Lord).
by LincolnHighNole on Dec 25, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Running the ball is a nice complement
But it’s not something you should build a QB around in my opinion. Part of the problem this year is that teams have been trying to keep Freeman contained in the pocket, taking away his running lanes. And, of course, if you have a running QB, he’s going to be injured – and that’s a real problem.
Fair Enough
I just want 8 runs a game from Freeman. And a 3 TE set every once in a while. This would greatly improve our running game. I am not asking to build an offense around a running QB.
Your example, while it is a good example and I would throw the Patriots, Colts and the Packers in the group as well have super-star QB’s. We dont.
According to Football Outsiders, The top 6 rushing teams in the NFL are:
1. Carolina
2. Philadelphia
3. Minnesota
4. New Orleans
5. New England
6. Green Bay
Those are some good offenses. 2 Rookie QB’s who are mobile and 4 elite QB’s of todays game. I would even say that not one WR on any of those teams scares opposing DC’s. Maybe 1 or 2.
So either we have to have an elite Hall of Fame QB, or a QB who can scramble 6-8 times a game to keep drives alive or score inside the red zone in order to run the offense you are talking about not having a team build around an RB.
We have a QB who can scramble to keep drives alive and score in the red zone right now. Injuries are part of the game and RB’s are injured way more than scrambling QBs. Matter of fact according to Jimbo Fisher, a head coach and Qb coach, most QB are not injured scrambling. They are injured in the pocket. QB’s can be taught to get out of bounds or slide.
by LincolnHighNole on Dec 25, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
that MLB from Nevada looks pretty good
ALL ABORD THE TRENT RICAHRDSON TRAIN!!!
by dcbucsfan on Dec 25, 2011 3:55 PM EST via Android app reply actions
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