Why apathy reigns supreme in Tampa Bay and how to cure it
Now, let me begin by saying that this is an opinion piece. Obviously I can't speak for all Tampa Bay fans. Everything related here is heard from talking to co-workers and friends of mine. Most of which are pretty much in the same age range and income level. Twenty to thirty somethings with a moderate amount of disposable income. With that being said, I can't remember when being a Bucs fan was ever this insufferable.
Obviously I wasn't around for the Culverhouse days, which I realize was much worse. At least the Glazers have a history of winning, and there is hope we can return to those days. I'm speaking of the current state of the Buccaneer fans in my generation. Many of us have tuned out over the past few weeks. It's just become unbearable to watch. Who wants to watch a "game" with this team playing in it? I put game in quotes because I'm not really sure we can call them that anymore. Dictionary.com lists a definition of game as:
A competitive activity involving skill, chance, or endurance on the part of two or more persons who play according to a set of rules, usually for their own amusement or for that of spectators.
It's the chance part that gets me thinking. Why have so many people tuned out this year? In my opinion it's simply because the outcome of the game is usually not in question. We pretty much know what we're going to see before we see it. The Bucs will most likely come out slow. The offense will sputter. The opposing team will shove the ball down the defense's throats while everyone in a Buccaneer jersey will do their best impression of Deion Sanders making a "tackle". We'll quickly get behind and abandon the run. Freeman will throw underneath for a few first downs in garbage time. Connor Barth may or may not get to kick an extra point in the fourth quarter, once the outcome is no longer a question (if it ever was to begin with for some of us).
When was the last time the outcome of a game was even in question after the half? It doesn't matter who we are playing against. Blow outs by a three win Jacksonville team and the Panthers put many of us over the edge. I don't want to say people are jumping ship, but they're certainly tuning out. Obviously they aren't going to start rooting for other teams or anything. They're still out there, but they aren't throwing remotes at their TVs anymore. They're just apathetic. They have become desensitized to the atrocities we see weekly.
What can peak their interest again? What can put butts back in the seats in Tampa Bay? Read my top five ways the team can get most of the fans back on board the ship after the jump.
I think there a five things that would get many of us on board and excited for next season.
1. Fire the coaching staff.
Unfortunately, Raheem Morris is going to have to fall on the sword for this season. I say unfortunately because I generally like the man, and I think he was a victim of his own ambition. Thinking he could coach up the league's youngest defense and be the youngest head coach of the leagues youngest team was admirable, but ultimately misguided. Many people saw the writing on the wall, but I admit I was along for the ride. I'm very disappointed it didn't work out, but it's time to move forward, and Morris and Olson must walk the plank.
2. Admit the lack of free agent acquisitions was wrong.
I think it's very important for Mark Dominik to make a public statement that he will be more open to bringing in veteran talent moving forward. Many people feel that the Bucs are being cheap and scraping the bottom of the barrel in the talent department. Two or three quality free agent acquisitions will silence those critics immediately and generate some excitement (albeit short lived) going into next season. If the "plan" goes on as is, I don't see many people tuning back in next season. There's just too much frustration in the area. A clear and precise effort to shift public perception of the team's direction needs to be made.
3. Reach out to the community.
This area loves the Buccaneers. We had a twelve year sellout streak for heavens sake. The fans and the love are there. The Glazers just need to open their arms and welcome them back in. Run some season ticket promotions that offer something in return for the fan's investment besides just a seat and a parking pass. Take a page out of the Lightning's playbook and copy their jersey program. For those of you that don't know, all Lightning full season ticket holders receive a home jersey embedded with a microchip in the sleeve that gives them a 25% discount on concessions and a 35% discount of merchandise within the stadium. How cool is that?
I wish the Glazers would acknowledge that this area is in economic meltdown and lower ticket prices across the board. Offering garbage seats for $35 a game isn't really doing anyone any favors, especially when those tickets are often the first ones to sell out and all the remaining seats are $100+. Parking fees also need to be revised. Paying $25 to walk a mile to the stadium is not desirable. It's actually ridiculous. You can buy a twelve pack of beer and a dozen wings for less than it takes to pay for parking at Raymond James Stadium. There's a serious disconnect there and it echoes with many fans.
4. Offense sells tickets, but defense wins championships.
The old adage is true. Right now the Glazers need to seriously consider bringing in an offensive guru when hiring their new head coach and/or offensive coordinator. Putting an exciting product on the field would seriously reinvigorate the fan base in my opinion. Defense does indeed win championships and defensive talent should be accrued via the draft AND free agency in the offseason, but one dynamic playmaker and an exciting new offensive system with the pieces the Bucs already have in place would get a lot of people excited and watching again. Some would argue that winning will make them come, and for the most part this is true, but I think an immediate boost in attendance and fan interest should be the teams number one priority this offseason.
5. Revamp team image.
Whether or not it's justified is certainly up for debate, but many people's perception of the Buccaneers is that the team is full of thugs and degenerates. The fact that Aqib Talib, Tanard Jackson, and Legarrette Blount suit up for this team drives many fans toward apathy. These players all have negative press in their past, and nothing has been done by the front office or the players to improve their image. Show us their good sides. Drafting stand up guys like Josh Freeman and Gerald McCoy are steps in the right direction, but ten good deeds are washed away by one bad one in the modern day NFL. One negative headline will dominate the media's focus for days on end, while a positive blurb will most likely go unreported. The front office must combat this by constantly blitzing us with positive stories. A sacrificial lamb like Talib will most likely have to be offered up to appease most fans as well.
What do you think Bucs Nation? Can you think of anything that isn't listed that would get people excited again? Do you think the solutions offered in this article would make a difference? Join the discussion below.
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It isn't even the losses
It’s the god awful ugly play. I would be fine with this season if we ended 0-16 but were competitive in every game and making all efforts, but we aren’t. At all. It is just painful to watch. An embarrassment.
And I was around for Culverhouse and the only reason this is better is because there is at least some chance the Glazers will correct this. There was no hope at all with Culverhouse.
Yugly.
I dont know, that 80's team was pretty crappy..
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 22, 2011 12:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Pinellas County has also agreed to chip in with helping to cure apathy by voting to remove flouride from the tap water
I kid. I kid.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Dr. Strangelove FTW!
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 22, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think providing a competitive team...
is the best way to reel the fans back in. You must, at least, give the appearance that you care about your own team – and counting piles of money in private is not the way.
A new coach, a new mindset for providing the talent we need and maybe a price break on the tickets – just to get the ball rolling. Its a great place to visit or live, not to mention being economically attractive, so bringing in some new talent could not possibly be that difficult.
You must not of read that study they did.
St. Pete and Tampa are #1 and #3 for the most depressing places to live in the USA. So I wouldn’t say it’s a great place to live.
I have been there, and I don't need studies to tell me why...
If the cost of living, the great beaches and multitude of outdoorsy things can’t get you excited – perhaps there is no help for you. I am still a little mad the Jai-Lai fronton closed in South Tampa.
by Cracker Ball on Dec 22, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Actually the cost of living here is pretty high compared to other states. And this place is that depressing.
especially
with the sports teams sucking – minus the Rays.
by akbrown15 on Dec 22, 2011 9:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The point about an exciting offense is really interesting
Something I hadn’t thought of before. Having a few scores to cheer for per game would go a long way to getting people excited again.
DCBusFan is going to have a field day with this Sander...
Lol!!!!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 22, 2011 12:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol
Hey, let’s just play devil’s advocate here.
Richardson in the first. RT in the second. LG in the third. Free agent wide receiver and then go nuts with free agents on defense. I could live with it. Wouldn’t be my first choice, but…
Yugly.
Eh, I'd rather get a mix of rookie and FA talent on defense. We have to groom some guys, the talent in FA isnt always the best and doesnt alwasy fir the system.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Like I said it isn't my first choice
Plus I don’t think we can fill enough holes on the defense with just free agency or the draft. We really need a mix. I think there is an argument for going hard on improving the offense. Next year might be Free’s last chance, the offense is closer to being a contender than the defense, offense puts more butts in the seats like leecaz says. I still fall on the improve the defense side of things rather than this path, but there is something to be said for that approach.
Yugly.
I like offensive firepower.
However, we need defensive playmakers badly. It would be nice to get richardson, but I personally think that olson destroyed our offense by himself… Do we still need help on offense, hell yes we do.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 22, 2011 1:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
A new OC would help a ton
Get a RB and WR via draft or FA and prove that Olsen is the problem. Then go all in with defence via draft/ FA
Lol
well you know ima lay off of him for the time being. i think he’s starting to come on board slowly but surely to the Richardson train.
I'm not jumpin off this titanic ship!!!!
I wouldnt be terribly upset if we got him...
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 22, 2011 3:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Trent Richardson would be a great acquisition
I just think there are likely to be better choices for our needs.
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 22, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
High scoring game, exciting and fun? Who cares if you still lose.
That’s the problem with the NFL they want to be Arena Football in a stadium. Give me a win with 10-0 any day over some high scoring loss.
RAHEEM IS A JOKE! OLSON IS GARBAGE! THE GLAZERS SUCK!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Dec 22, 2011 12:45 PM EST reply actions
You don't agree that a high flying offense is more fun to watch than a dink and dunk one?
No one ever said they would rather lose, but unless the defense magically transforms itself then this isn’t going to be the Bucs of the late nineties. They need to score points to win right now.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
I'd rather win watching the defense dominate and score touchdowns than anything.
But a high flying offense is definitely better to watch than a dink and dunk. I swear our offense is so damn boring to watch with the dink and dunk. You can’t be safe all the time.
They wanted a franchise quarterback and a pass happy offense but where has it gotten us
the winning tradition of this team was built on defense not offense, look what happened when they tried to get away from it.
RAHEEM IS A JOKE! OLSON IS GARBAGE! THE GLAZERS SUCK!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Dec 22, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, I think that's silly
We have a lot of problems, but it wasn’t because we tried to improve the offense.
Yugly.
Plus we've spent TONS of top 2 round picks on defense the last couple years
Our biggest problem was not going after free agents.
Yugly.
Really?
did you forget how they hyped Freeman up as the franchise qb we never had, and they paired him with olson who they claimed had ties to the greatest show on turf.
RAHEEM IS A JOKE! OLSON IS GARBAGE! THE GLAZERS SUCK!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Dec 22, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Olson was a huge mistake, and I've been screaming that for 2.5 years now
I’m not convinced Freeman was a mistake quite yet. But, in any case, the problem wasn’t that they tried to improve the offense.
Yugly.
Please don't ever use Olson and great offense in the same sentence again.
Freeman is the franchise QB we’ve never had. One off season doesn’t change what he did last year. He’s 23 years old. Let’s give him at least his rookie contract (two more years) before we write him off. Other than Freeman the only high pick they’ve invested in the offense recently is Arreliious Benn, with their second 2nd round pick in ’10. Mike Williams was a 4th rounder and pretty much given the #1WR job before training camp even started. How is that investing heavily in the offense?
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
You call it whatever you want I'll call it what I want
but I believe we can both agree whatever it is they tried to do it didn’t work
RAHEEM IS A JOKE! OLSON IS GARBAGE! THE GLAZERS SUCK!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Dec 22, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Of course it hasn't worked.
That doesn’t mean they should never invest another high pick in the offense. We could have eleven first rounders on the defense and it wouldn’t make a difference at all if they can’t move the ball on the offense.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Even as poorly Freemna has played, he hasn't made me say put Josh Johnson in
or bring back Chris Simms, or Bruce Gradkowski, or Brian Griese, or Shaun King, or Byron Leftwich. Yes I agree with on how Olsen has the greatest show on turf and how funny it sounds I guess because he came from St. Louis.
Perhaps we should change it to...
“Greg Olson – the Greatest t*rd on earf”
by Cracker Ball on Dec 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
There's nothing magical about the Buccaneers that makes them unsuccessful when they try to build an offense
And looking at the past decade, having a good passing offense is very important.
I'm a defensive guy so I'd take a 6-3 win anytime. If its well played, those games are fantastic to watch.
As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.
Wise old man once said "just win baby"
it’s a pretty good motto to live by
RAHEEM IS A JOKE! OLSON IS GARBAGE! THE GLAZERS SUCK!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Dec 22, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
But surely you must realize that you're in the vast minority in that regard.
I want to see my team put up points at will and my teams defense completely shut down the team they are facing. But if the choice is a game of punts and field goals or a shootout, I’d much rather watch a shootout.
Anyway, this team isn’t remotely capable of holding any teams in this league to under ten points right now. They are capable of scoring 21+ points with a few tweaks here and there.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Remember that 49er game in the mid to late 90's
when we knocked out rice and young or the NFC championship game against the rams? Twi great examples of our old defense. Though we lost the rams game, it was probably one of if not the best defensive efforts I ever saw. That is what we need here again. Offensively now we are better and imagine if we had a competent coaching staff. I believe we are heading in the right direction.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 22, 2011 1:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's a good point
For all the flak that we give the offense, we’re still in the middle of the pack despite all our issues. A new OC, a second RB in this year’s draft, a FA WR addition like Dwayne Bowe, and an offseason of intense training for Freeman with the new staff (cue montage music) and we could potentially have a pretty spectacular offense next year.
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 22, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Trueblood is like having a Sequoia Redwood for a RT...
he is ginormous, but also shares the mobility of the tree. Please find another RT to push him – and don’t look in the trash like usual.
by Cracker Ball on Dec 23, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
We can't possibly fill all our holes this offseason
However, we do need to try to fill some of them please…
Yugly.
Those days are over
even teams like Baltimore and Pittsburgh gotta score points a few games to win. We won’t see the days of defenses carrying teams week to week anymore.
And it is to bad.. Arguably one of the best D units ever!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 22, 2011 5:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Arguably, defense is what's gotten SF back to the playoffs this year
And, Tebow hype aside, Denver as well.
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 22, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yea it's true San Fran has a defense
but they came back against Philly, they beat the Giants in a mini shootout, and they lost to Dallas in overtime same type of score. Their defense couldn’t shut the opponent down every wk, they had to score points at times. How good did Denver’s defense look against Brady this past wk?
OT: Latest Walter football mock
has us going 1. Morris Claiborne 2. Lavonte David 3. LaMichael James
I would be ecstatic if that’s how the real draft goes.
Yugly.
Absolutely
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 22, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
"At least the Glazers have a history of winning,"
Something that I have come to understand reading so many fan post is that many Fans seem not to know that The Bucs org. has changed owners (round about)….. Mr. Malcom (the father) seemed to understand that in order for an NFL team to be successful it HAS to have a person that KNOWS coaching on an NFL level….. If just anyone could coach at this level Morris would have been a success….. As I understand it Mr. Malcom is the one who hired Dungy who turned this team around from such horrible years and then went all out to hire Gruden and went to the SB…… JG had some up and done years but not this horrific!….. Mr. Malcom had medical issues, so I saw told, and now the Org. is ran by his sons who seem as though they have not learned from their Fathers example…. Again as I understand it, Morris is really the 1st HC the Brothers have hired and everyone sees how they handled that for their 1st time….. I hope they follow their Father’s example the next time!…. If their is anything I’ve written here off I am sure their are others on here that can clean it up that know more about the situation basically – Winning Bucs – HC that Mr. Malcom hired…… Current Bucs – Sons hired HC!
"In life, you'll have your back up against the wall many times. You might as well get used to It." - Coach Paul 'Bear' Bryant
In the beginning I loved the glazers because they brought a winning tradition to a losing franchise.
Lately they have shown nothing but poor decision making skills and that’s how we ended up with" Rahdumb the clown and the not ready for primetime players"
RAHEEM IS A JOKE! OLSON IS GARBAGE! THE GLAZERS SUCK!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Dec 22, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
I know what you mean....
I have followed the Bucs since the early 90’s…. Even before that but I still don’t like to talk about it (lol)……I thought after all that we have seen and been through as fans of this team that we were finally out of the basement, out of the pit of the NFL….. NOW, it seems like a nightmare of flash backs for many of us…. And makes one really skeptical about the near future of this team…… For anyone to just hire a person who is an assistants assitant and think they can match up with the other quality HC of the NFL just baffles me, but that is just my hang up!
"In life, you'll have your back up against the wall many times. You might as well get used to It." - Coach Paul 'Bear' Bryant
A change is coming iowa...
They have to do something and I believe they will.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 22, 2011 2:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Our current history is garbage
Tradition is one thing, even if it lasted only for 2 decades.. but our season record is so terrible, that tombstone means nothing.
Hurd ain't the only corrupt player in Chicago. Their Senators sell they're position.
by Titankillah on Dec 22, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
I have been a diehard fan since 1997.
The Bucs have been know for defense every since i have been a fan.. Until 2008. Then we tried to change what has worked. I dont want the Bucs to fall into the trap of being pass happy like the Cowboys, Ravens and others who really should run the ball more. But we have invested so much into the defense for the past two years in the draft but none in FA. I think we should invest more on defense in FA and a little lesser in the draft. Dominik has us spoiled that this all youth team will work. It looks good on paper and in the future but we not going to make it to the future if we can even get over the hump in the present. So we get stuck in this cycle that we keep drafting rookies every year to become starters. Alot of our failure is self inflicted. Im more disappointed and shocked that we didnt improve from last year. We have been up and down for the past 4 years…. we need to get back to the basics. We need to make some trades. Get some free agents. Alot of them. A veteran RT. A Veteran CB for sure. And a veteran linebacker. And draft Trent Richardson!! LOL
I'm not jumpin off this titanic ship!!!!
Agree that we have been too reliant on rookies starting
But I still think that our defensive needs can’t be wholly met through free agency. There just aren’t enough good free agents available, and we have to keep in mind that even if we try hard to get those free agents, we may be outbid or outmaneuvered.
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 22, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Great article, I got a few pointers
1. A new coach can bring a breath of fresh air but it won’t change much if we stay the same and don’t go out and get players in free agency which I agree on your 2nd point I think we all can agree on. I think if we bring back Rah but he fires Olsen and fires himself as a DC, and bring in proven assistants along with bringing in proven talent ,the fans will come back even if Rah is still here because we will see changes in other areas.
2. The last thing you mentioned about changing the image, I don’t think we are the Cincinati Bengals where we got a bunch of jailbirds on the team. Yes we got a few clowns like Talib or Blount and you can even say K2 is a pout, it just sticks out because we have no proven good guys to lead the team like a Derrick Brooks. Every team takes a chance or player with character issues even New England has with Randy Moss. If the players’ talents can outweighed their personalities, it’s no big deal but for us the guys we have been talking about have been the opposite.
3. I agree todays’ NFL the offense sells and the way the league has changed, there won’t be a dominant defense anymore like we had over the yrs. Again this comes to spending money, we not far off from being a high powered offense, adding guys like DeSean Jackson and Matt Forte can bring some excitement to the guys we already have.
check Lavonte David out against Oklahoma State U. on UTUBE
This guy looks so good fast good at covering good TACKLER! little undersized…….
Going in the right direction
I like the first 3 suggestions in this post. They need to fire the whole staff (I love Morris but not as a HC) They need to admit the youth plan was flawed & reassure the fans by getting 2 big free agents. As far as the stadium goes if your a season ticket holder you should get 20% off on all concesions all season & reduce ticket prices over $100 by 10% for next season & hold that price point for 2yrs. That will bring the fans back.
by InfamousHp on Dec 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
unfortunately
the Glazers are sitting on a cash cow and will make 40-50 million per year no matter how many blackouts we have ….its quite sad.
by akbrown15 on Dec 22, 2011 7:08 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Really, i don't think so
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Excellent article, Lee
A well-thought out roadmap for the road back to relevancy.
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
Pretty good outline of what a successful rebound would consist of
..5 revamp Team Image.. more community outtings obviously. I truly believe that outreach programs help our community. And right you are again, we do not need thugs terrorizing society.. They need to understand that being a thug on the field is completely legal, and where they get paid for it. Be a thug and go to jail. Be a thuggish linebacker, get paid.
But yeah real good read man.
Hurd ain't the only corrupt player in Chicago. Their Senators sell they're position.

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