Return of the Paper Bags: Could Fan Discontent Prompt Changes for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?
Yesterday, a phenomenon returned - one that hadn't surfaced in Tampa for some time, while being a mainstay a couple of decades before. An innovative (and cheap) fashion statement: the paper bag.
Nothing screams "we demand change" more than fans with paper bags. Nothing is worse for a franchise's public image than fans with bags on their heads. And nothing screams "the fans stopped caring" more than paper-bagged spectators. Sure, they're there and still paying for their seats, but for every fan who cares enough to show up with a paper bag many more stay at home.
This was clearly in evidence last night, when the stadium was filled with Dallas Cowboys fans. That shouldn't have surprised anyone, as the Bucs have struggled to sell tickets for years, but must be a concern for the owners of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
That kind of apathy among the fans could prompt the Glazers to make some major changes.
Raheem Morris' job is in danger. After eight straight losses, including three straight embarrassing blowouts, this should not be a surprise. We've talked about this for weeks now, and with each loss and each embarrassment it's less and less likely that the Bucs decide to keep Raheem Morris. That despite reports that the Bucs were considering keeping Raheem Morris and hiring a defensive coordinator.
No one knows what the Glazers will do, or why they do anything. However, the fan reaction to their product has to be a concern for them, and could lead them to do some drastic things. While Raheem Morris' tenure seems to be coming to an end, Mark Dominik has to be concerned as well. Dominik's biggest failings have come in free agency, while he's done a good job drafting talent. But this kind of disgust among fans almost demands a response from ownership.
More likely, the Bucs will try to energize the fanbase in a different way. They could go after a big name coach, or try to lure a well-known free agent to Tampa. While that isn't their usual M.O. the Glazers must be feeling this lack of fan support in their wallets, and that could prompt them to do some things they usually don't.
Of course, doing what the fans want isn't always the best way to succeed in the NFL. Dan Snyder can tell you all about that, as could the Packers, who faced widespread derision when they hired the offensive coordinator of the worst offense in the NFL as head coach, traded Brett Favre two years later and built their team on youth and through the draft rather than spending big bucks in free agency.
But when your team is selling out every home game, you can ignore fan complaints. When there are 10,000 open seats and fans wearing paper bags, it's a lot harder to ignore the fans.
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Would be nice if the team would hand out those bags
To fans as the trinket at the gate. Heck, they could even get secure a sponsor and print their name on the bags. A way to make money!
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn’t matter. I’m amphibious." – Charles Shackleford
by Craig T on Dec 18, 2011 9:56 AM EST via mobile reply actions
my bucs are
14-2 in madden if that helps. it’s the only way i forget about this depressing season.
you must have used fantasy draft to get some real talent....
….or you’re playing on the easiest level.
weren't the Saints fans the first ones to go with paper bags over the head?
…just wondering where the custom originated…
Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
Yeah, the Saints made the paper bag on the head famous, and they're one Brees blown knew away from pulling them back out.
So much for the Bucs lowering ticket prices, mine went up AGAIN!!!!
It didn't seem this bad when we went 3-13really a couple years back...
I guess because there wasn’t as many expectations. Those expectations give me hope for next year. Through all this turmoil, we may have a thousand yard receiver and runningback, and a rookie DE with double digit sacks. With the right coaching, more talent in some key positions, and bringing in some team speed on both sides of the ball, the sky is still the limit for this team next year. Go Bucs!
by flash_kiley on Dec 18, 2011 11:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions
that was when Chucky was fired, Raheem was starting as HC and we had almost no team left
the Bucs were expected to lose badly that year. this year we were supposed to be playing for the postseason…
Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
Yep it's exactly why this season is more embaressing
more than 2009 or 2006 or 2004 because we were expected to be on the upswing and this team is more talented than those teams.
by Brian Ahmed on Dec 18, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree.
the talent on this team is not good. Just because someone says its good…doesn’t mean it’s good. Other than Clayborn, who on this team has played well? The punter?
by akbrown15 on Dec 18, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Donald Penn (excepting last week), Davin Joseph
Michael Bennett. Aqib Talib. Preston Parker. Legarrette Blount.
And the Bucs have a lot more talent than that, but that talent is not performing up to the level they’re capable of. That doesn’t mean they’re not talented.
sorry man...I disagree
Blount can’t learn the playbook. Aquib Talib, while talented isn’t worth the cancer he projects on this team. Bennett? Has he made a play this year? Preston Parker is very talented…if muffing punt returns counts as talent. Sorry guys….I just can’t continue to look through the Pewter hazed glasses and give these guys passes. They’re not good NFL players.
by akbrown15 on Dec 18, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree with you. We are one of the least talented teams in the league
At literally every position we are below average. Okay maybe not tackle. Yes they are young and they have “potential”. But if they don’t ever produce how can you say they are talented. This league is littered with non performing “talent”. We are years away.
I thank Draysbay for proving that Loose Change fanatics exist in mainstream America, and more importantly for Chik-fil-A spicy chicken recommendations. My life is forever changed
by matthan on Dec 18, 2011 3:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You're nitpicking the negatives and ignoring the positives
Blount has been a good running back this season, who just has not been used much. Preston Parker has consistently picked up long third downs and had one bad game – as a returner, not even as a receiver. Bennett has been a very good run defender and a pretty consistent pass rusher. Aqib Talib was inconsistent early on, but has been a solid cornerback throughout and had a couple of stellar games.
And, again, a lot of talented players are not performing this year. That doesn’t make them not talented.
YOU SIR
are wrong! Our roster is made up of a bunch of no talent clowns from other team’s practice squads. akbrown15 is the only other person on the site who realizes this. LETS BE REAL with ourselves – everyone in the NFL has talent, you dont make it that far without it. But we have the least amount of it in the whole league.
i have come to this site forever and never posted one time, but these articles are so bad and based on BS/pure speculation that i could not hold back any longer. they should come with a disclaimer, imo. you really think our owners listen to the worst group of fans in football? c’mon man.
also, you honestly think another coach out there is gonna come here and turn this squad into a 10 game winner again? if so, who is this coach you speak of? i dont think he exists.
Well, aren't you a ray of sunshine
We have the worst amount of talent in the NFL, we’re the worst fans in the NFL, no coach out there is capable of turning the Bucs into winners again- oh, and our articles suck. What’s your point? What would you suggest? Do you have any concrete ideas or are you just trolling?
Perhaps you’ve been coming to this site forever- though I note that your profile was created today- but if you have nothing to say other than trashing everyone and everything, and our articles are “so bad and based on BS/speculation”, why do you come here?
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 18, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you rook... How pathetic!!!
Offers criticism with no solutions whatsoever. please troll elsewhere, your negativity is not needed….
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 18, 2011 6:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sure
But it wasn’t some historically anomalous schedule. It wasn’t even close to being the easiest schedule of the year. Easy schedules roll around often.
10 wins in the NFL is 10 wins in the NFL
…no easy task. Of those 10 wins, how many had winning records?
nitpicking?
lol…alright dude. This team is really good, we’re just in a slump. We’ll snap out of it soon! Go Bucs!
Maybe living in Europe is keeping you from seeing how bad things are in TB? You can’t turn on 1010 or 620 am without hearing caller after caller who are sick of the excuses… People are tired of this team, this coach, and these owners. ….and for good reason.
I know what people think of the team
But that has no bearing on my evaluation of this team, and it shouldn’t. How does the fact that people are dissatisfied with the team change the quality of Donald Penn’s play?
These are largely the same players they were last year. Most of them are playing worse than last year. Two options: they were never talented, or they’ve all suffered under the same circumstances. Which do you think is more likely?
And yes, when all you can say about Parker that he fumbled two punts, ignoring his very good production as a receiver, you are nitpicking. When you complain about Blount not knowing the playbook rather than look at his much improved rushing, you are nitpicking. When you can’t see that Penn, Joseph, Clayborn among others have had good years despite the results, then you are purposely ignoring positives because all you want to see is negatives.
I’m not saying this team is talent-laden. It clearly has holes and needs to improve in several spots. CB, S, speed WR (unless Benn improves), LB, backup RB are needs. Some other positions (LG, RT, TE) could do with improvement, but aren’t real liabilities.
I’m not suggesting this team is ready to win a Super Bowl. But it doesn’t need some kind of massive overhaul, and there is plenty of talent across the roster. In terms of talent, this is an average team. It’s easy to forget that a lot of the issues this year have to do with issues typical of poor coaching and youth, but not of talent: penalties, turnovers, letting things spiral out of control in the face of adversity.
In sports fandom, the recent past almost always dominates. The recent past right now is eight straight losses, three blowout losses in a row, two of which to poor teams. That makes this team look very bad. But this is the same talent that won 10 games last season, started 4-2 this season and beat the Saints and Falcons. The real talent level lies somewhere in the middle. It’s not the worst in the league, and it’s not top. But it’s certainly much better than it was three years ago.
by Sander on Dec 18, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I never said Penn, Joseph, and Clayborn
were not having good years…we agree there. The rest…we’re gonna have to disagree I suppose. I think that 10 win season was the anomaly…not this season. …expect more of the same next season if things don’t change.
The 10-win season was an anomaly to an extent, but so is this season
The Bucs have had the toughest schedule in the NFL by Football Outsiders’ numbers, and it’s not really close. If you look at other stats (like simple W-L), I think they’ve had the second hardest schedule.
The team was also playing much better early this season than it has in the past few weeks. They seem to have quit. Talent is a problem at some position, but it’s not the leading problem imo.
No Way
There is no talent on this team. Talib is ok, but so many penalties and mistakes. like dropping an interception against the Packers and letting them recover??? The defense just plain sucks. Look at the point differential and blowout losses to crappy teams. The Offense is a joke, Totally inept
This team is not talentless, but not very talented overall.
I thought our offensive line would have been a strength this year, but with exception of joseph and penn, the rest are useless…. D line is the only true strength of this team, unfortunately they cant catch, pass, run, or play in coverage situations… Too bad.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 18, 2011 11:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh my God really?
Maybe we should switch place with the Rams, Browns, Vikings, Seahawks, or Redskins right now. Least amount of talent? We are no where near. I’m not saying we are super talented, but a lot of our guys can play ball. They just aren’t being lead/taught right. Growing pains with having the youngest team im the league.
There is a difference in “being real” and complaining. If anyone on here truly thinks we have the least talented team in the NFL, they can go find another team to like.
by flash_kiley on Dec 18, 2011 11:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the "youngest" team in the league is a cop out IMO
Having a young team with no veterans to teach them the ropes is a set up for perpetual failure. Who is out there that can teach a Mason Foster…who can Mason Foster look up too as a peer? No one. Also, the Packers are the 2nd youngest team in the NFL…
The Packers are lead extremely well.
And they have had a couple years for their draft picks to blossom. I would love to have their coaching staff…
by flash_kiley on Dec 19, 2011 12:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Without proper coaching...
the young, talented players we have will never reach their potential. Gotta coach ’em up. Not too many players come out of college and are just there already. We will also never attract the top notch coach here with Rah and his tenuous hold of the HC position.
Clean house and let the new HC build his staff. Those current coaches worthy of it may be invited back.
by Cracker Ball on Dec 19, 2011 6:29 AM EST up reply actions
That is a very good point.
The sooner we axe Raheem, the sooner potential coaches will realize the position is open. Why keep the post obstructed if the season is lost? It’s not as if we could play any worse for an interim coach…
Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips?
The bottom, she just keeps on dropping
I’ve been expecting us to go 4-12 since last week, and fearing we might since the week before. It doesn’t make experiencing the games any easier- despite expecting the loss, each one’s still painful. Can we fast forward past Christmas and New Year’s, just so we can get to Black Monday?
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
If the glazers keep raheem after last night and particularly this season,
I might put a plastic bag over my head instead of paper….
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 18, 2011 3:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They will probably keep him because they're still paying Gruden.
….for at least a year. Raheem is a cheap coach.
Grudens contract ends at conclusion of this year.
Raheem does not deserve to be retained. One decent year (2010), against inferior opponents does not make him a good coach. They were only competitive in 5 games this year, the 4 wins and the Green Bay game. I have stated along with cracker bell, aaks, and a few that his time has come…. Even when we were 4 – 2 I had no confidence in him or the team..
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 18, 2011 5:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Plus I believe Morris gets a bonus if he stays,
I heard something like $2 million.
So much for the Bucs lowering ticket prices, mine went up AGAIN!!!!
Yes we can and do, with a small exception.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 18, 2011 11:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I didnt have confidence at 4-2 either.
They were weak ass wins over the Vikes, ATL, and NO, and especially when we barely beat Indy on MNF! That was pretty pathetic!
Many of the "Cowboys" fans at the game last night
…were Bucs fans who have traded in their jerseys. Yesterday at the Brandon Mall my wife and I went into Sports Fanattic. The clerk there said that sales would have been slow if it weren’t for selling Cowboys merchandise. As she was saying this, a lady comes up and asks “Do y’all have any Cowboys wind breakers”? This town is so fair-weather.
Still have my Bucs jersey's....
Would never, ever wear a cowgirl jersey!!!!!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 18, 2011 3:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd saying 99% of the Dallas crowd last night have not been to TX.
People who will only cheer for teams with X amount of SB wins are just losers, it’s the only reason teams like Pittsburgh, Dallas, and GB have so many “fans”.
So much for the Bucs lowering ticket prices, mine went up AGAIN!!!!
yep, I remember being at a Monday night
game of our Super Bowl winning year against the Steelers. We lost that game. Two girls in front of me weren’t even watching the game, but taunting the crowd with their Steelers jerseys on…I asked them if they had ever been down the incline of Mount Washington. I might as well been speaking Chinese Mandarin to these ladies because they had no idea what I was talking about. BTW, Mount Washington is a popular site in Pittsburgh. Thats like a TB fan that has never heard of Ybor City.
Most of the Cowboys and other fans down here
are people who chose a team to follow when the Bucs sucked, which is basically all their years of existence minus a few good years.
I have many friends who chose teams back then to follow and they actually only root for that team.
I also have friends from other states that rep those teams. Steelers, Cowboys, Miami, and Patriots to name a few. Tampa has never had a big fan base to begin with.
It's all the idiots that move to our beautiful city from other shitty cities and don't take up our teams!
Same as those retard boston idiots and ohio, new york, penn, and Mich, IDIOTS that come down here and refuse to let go of they’re team. My family came down here from DC and although i grew up here my other family converted to being Bucs fans Years ago with the old creamcicle days. I Hate those Idiots! Go back home quit polluting our beautiful City and beaches
Hey man, cheer up
I’m from Connecticut originally, currently living in Maine, and moving back to NYC in February. I’ve never lived in Tampa and have no family connections to the city. But I’m a Bucs fan, always have been since I started following football. There’s lots of us here who live a looooong way from RayJay (Sander’s six time zones away from Tampa), and who keep rooting for the Bucs in hostile territory, even as we go through the hard times.
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 18, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Thats Cool
I can dig it, But if you haven’t been here, dude this city is Loaded northern teams fan base. It really gets on my nerves having half the stadium fans of the other team!!! And tha’ts with every sport. Rays, Lightning and Magic! And they’re obnoxiously disrespectful to our teams! Our home teams! Maybe you should live here to bolster TB fan base in TB
I'd definitely consider it if you can find me a new job
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 19, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
Long story
The essence is that my parents were totally not into sports (my dad never once played catch with me) and, growing up in the 80s, when other kids would ask me what football team I followed I would answer “the Buccaneers” because that was the one team that no one else I knew (growing up in CT surrounded by Giants and Patriots fans) followed.
Later, when I got into football, I stuck with that random choice- and it developed into a passion for the team. I think that it had a lot to do with rooting for the perpetual underdog who would eventually tough it out and beat the odds. And we did. And we will again.
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 19, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
If he were alive today.....
“We just sent the Saturday Night Edition of Thursday Night football back 2000 years” – John McKay (RIP)
Beware!!
by Creamsicle Power on Dec 18, 2011 4:17 PM EST reply actions
And to think they dedicated this season to the Leroy Selmon.
Sorry Leroy, this team let you, your family and the entire Buccaneer fan base down…
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 18, 2011 5:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thats Stupid!
There’s no need for this. I think it’s disrespectful to the team (even tho they suck) and our city. Not to mention uncalled for. Didn’t we have a badass 10 wins season last year?? The bags should be reserved for a more miserable team. One that’s had years of losing Not Us!
the bags are exactly what you get when your 4-2 on top of the division heading for the playoffs
and when the season ends your selecting # 4 on draft day! bags are totally called for, a 3 and 4 win season outweigh a fluky win season that lets not all forget was full of “ugly” football. eveyone keeps pointing to the ten win year but dont forget we were atrocious in most of those games as well. i dont care if we fire raheem now or in two weeks as long as he is not invited back next year. but honestly i dont see the advantages of firing him now.
by Carlitin1988 on Dec 19, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions

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