Cowboys - Buccaneers 31-15 - Schizophrenic Bucs show up again
As has so often been the case the past years, this game had two different halves and two different stories. The first half was nothing short of embarrassing: the Cowboys jumped out to a 28-0 lead as the Bucs failed to produce more than one first down in the half. But in the second half, the Bucs suddenly showed up to play. They scored 15 points and held the Cowboys' offense to just three, opening the door for an unlikely comeback - a door that quickly fell shut again.
It didn't take long for the first half to turn sour. Four plays in Josh Freeman scrambled - and then subsequently reminded everyone why you don't want your quarterback scrambling constantly by fumbling the ball. The Cowboys took very little time to drive downfield, and Tony Romo found Miles Austin in the endzone. On their next drive, Dez Bryant got to catch the ball completely unguarded in the endzone and Laurent Robinson earned that privilege two drives later. To make the humiliation complete, Romo scored a touchdown on a QB sneak.
In between all that incompetence, the Bucs managed one first down and forced one punt. Meanwhile the Cowboys had a whopping 19 first downs and had forced four punts and a turnover. At the end of the half the score was Cowboys 28 Buccaneers 0. Yeah, it wasn't a good first half. In fact, it was so disastrous that the halftime announcers were talking about players mentally checking out and quitting.
But then the Bucs gave the fans a tiny ray of hope as the second half got underway.
For about one quarter the Bucs looked like a competent team again. On third-and-19 Adrian Clayborn beat Doug Free and swatted the ball out of Tony Romo's hands. Dekoda Watson picked it up and ran it in for a touchdown. On the ensuing drive the Bucs defense held the Cowboys to a field goal and gave the ball back to Josh Freeman.
And Freeman showed us why he was so widely praised after the 2010 season. He directed a 12-play, 75-yard drive capped off by a touchdown pass to Dezmon Briscoe, and a two-point conversion to Kellen Winslow. On that drive Josh Freeman looked accurate, decisive, comfortable in the pocket and he consistently made the right decisions.
Unfortunately that was as far as it got for the Bucs. While the defense held up its end of the bargain by forcing a relatively quick punt, Freeman couldn't repeat his trick for a second time as penalties, inaccuracy and barely adequate receiver play stopped the Bucs from getting any further than midfield. And while the defense once again forced a punt, the offense and Freeman in particular looked to be in complete disarray on its final drive of the game - when Freeman threw a bunch of short passes when he needed to get the team down the field quickly.
And so ended the eighth consecutive loss of the 2011 season for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. A completely incompetent first half followed by about a quarter of competitive football, and then another series of penalties and stupid mistakes in the fourth quarter. The Bucs' season in a nutshell.
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The way it seemed to me....
It was more so that the Cowboys came out the 2nd half and were coasting already believeing they had the game won and so they let up and that is why the Bucs got any score….. That is what I took away from the game!
"In life, you'll have your back up against the wall many times. You might as well get used to It." - Coach Paul 'Bear' Bryant
Clayborn, not the other one
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
nah...we need some veteran on this team...only if to teach these
young kids how to play D. Err….well, maybe not…considering he is out there now and no one can stop shit.
I was correcting your spelling of Clayborn- Adrian Clayborn is our DE
Morris Claiborne is the (future) rookie cornerback that is projected top 5 in the upcoming draft
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
got it. I meant the guy on our team now...
…he is the only defensive player worth a shit on this shitty defense.
Raheem has said since the beginning of our season about how bad our receivers are performing.
This game has shown that we have more holes on this team than just on the defense. I like Morris Claiborne, but is there any way we get Blackmon?
Oderint dum metuant
Blackmon would be great...
…this team needs a shit ton more than just Blackmon. I would go CB first round…hell, trade up and get another 1st rounder if we can.
Trading back up would gimp us.
We would have to give up a possible 2nd or 3rd for that.
Teams that are need one or two players to get over the hump.
We, on the other hand, are still building.
Offense is all well and good
but it wasn’t our offense that gave up 28 points in one half to the Cowboys. Or 41 unanswered points to the Jaguars. Yes, if the offense improves then the D has more time to rest in between series. But that doesn’t change the fact that our issues with our back seven are far more pressing than our needs at O.
Seven straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 18, 2011 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
It's the offense that left the defense hanging all game. The defense having to be on the field for over 20 in one half is never a good sign of anything.
Offense gave up 7 to kill our lead against the Jags then didn’t do anything the rest of the game. No points were scored in the 3rd on easier side, but we really needed to.
Packer beat the Saints 42-34, not a lot of defense in that game...just saying.
3 of the best teams in the league have pretty bad defenses and amazing offenses, including the Patriots.
Oderint dum metuant
I'm all for offense. We've addressed defense too much in previous drafts
We need play makers on offense and Blackmon would be fantastic. Freeman needs a legit #1 WR to throw to.
We don't have enough defense, our team can have a POS offense- as long as the defense is good
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
And replace him with.....
……………whom exactly?
Seven straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 18, 2011 2:07 AM EST up reply actions
That's your opinion
What’s your solution? Draft another QB? Trade for one in FA?
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 18, 2011 3:31 AM EST up reply actions
If we've addressed defense "too much"
why do we still have such an awful defense?
Seven straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 18, 2011 2:07 AM EST up reply actions
because the people we have addressing
…can’t evaluate talent. Clayborne is the only kid they have brought in that is worth his salt. IMO.
You're being too harsh.
I like what they have done with the line. I even like some of the depth guys they’ve assembled. If you can keep those guys healthy and get them to keep their discipline, then our line could be a force in the future.
can we have specifics?
I am trying to think of any guy outside Clayborn that is pulling their weight. It’s sad when a rookie is the only bright spot on the whole D. Black leads the league in missed tackles. I think Rhonde is second. Talib is a punk. McCoy can’t stay healthy and is a non factor when he is…help me understand? I don’t see how anyone can look at this defense and see a silver lining. They’re horrible.
McCoy being a non fact is just plain wrong.
Price has been good despite being injured and probably overweight, Bowers has shown he could take the starter spot, Bennett has caused mayhem from time to time, Okam has been a force, and Crowder has may some plays up until he got hurt as well as Haynesworth looking solid though he seems lost at times. That’s my silver lining. The rest of the Defense could use work in selective areas but the line is there.
Disagree
Bowers, Bennett, McCoy, Price, Foster- I’m willing to wait and see on all of these guys.
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 18, 2011 3:32 AM EST up reply actions
I'm slightly confused, if the Glazers want to hire a DC- doesn't it need to be okayed with Raheem first?
How do we know that Raheem won’t throw him under the bus- the first time the D plays awfully?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
As with any business, you listen to what the boss "suggests". Otherwise bad things happen.
If it’s “recommended” that he takes a DC, he will take a DC.
You expect him to get along with the DC?
Please. Raheem will be hating on that dude all day every day. It’s a bad situation. One I’d rather not get involved with the more I think about it. Raheem needs to go.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
The Glazers went on the cheap...
…only reason Rah was promoted to head coach before coaching a game as a coordinator. I like Raheem…but it isn’t working. This is the worst TB team since the early 90’s. No heart, not discipline, no leadership….horrible all the way around.
Let's not give Freeman too much credit.
He was facing prevent defense and threw under the coverage for a drive that lasted over six minutes. He routinely milked the play clock all the way down to under five seconds even though time was of the absolute essence. The Cowboys essentially gave us that TD and I refuse to believe that it’s something to hang our hat on. It was a gimme and any semi competent NFL QB could have executed that drive. No silver lining AT ALL in my book
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
So we're giving credit for non-horrible footwork now?
Come on man. He had some decent throws in the 2nd half, but it’s his 3rd year in the NFL. We can’t get excited for a great throw every now and then like we did when he was a rookie.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
No.
But work out of his slump has to start somewhere.
It didn't start tonight.
That drive wasn’t anything special. You can think Ryan for dialing it back more than you can thank Freeman for that TD.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
he isn't accurate. he carries the ball around like a loaf of bread...
…I can’t count how many times he’s put the ball on the ground… He can’t execute a simple center snap exchange on a 4th an inch QB sneak with the game in the balance. How many passes does this dude get? I guess 1 decent year buys 2 or 3 crappy ones.
It was a great year.
Not a decent one. And yes, considering his rookie year was shortened and he played lights out last year, he deserves at least one crappy season before they look elsewhere.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
let's not forget he was crap his rookie season as well..
….I am not saying a rookie should do better, but he hasn’t improved….so 2.5 seasons as a starter and 1.5 of that has been bad. A great year gets your team in the playoffs…I wouldn’t consider it great…but whatever…I get your point. He gets a pass.
One good full year and one bad full year.
But yes, let’s dump him and start over. Let’s get another young QB who will have his inevitable slump and dump him too.
He is this year.
Whatever factored into him becoming that QB this year is very much up for discussion. Last year he was above average. I’ll give Freeman a pass for this season because he’s still younger than a lot of guys coming out of this years draft, but I’m not going to pretend that the 3rd quarter was anything special. It wasn’t.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Hope you're wrong
but he deserves one more year. I’m not saying I expect a turnaround, but he deserves it.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
I hope I am wrong too...
….but I kind of saw it coming when this guy was drafted. I am tired of the Bucs being the laughing stock of the league. I wish the Glazers would commit to some real talent and that includes coaching.
Lets see raheem is terrible at everything,freeman was handpicked by raheem
doesn’t that make you at least a little nervous, and the fact that their seasons are mirror images,2009 they both sucked, 2010 they were good 2011 they both suck, again.
RAHEEM IS A JOKE! OLSON IS GARBAGE! THE GLAZERS SUCK!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Dec 18, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Raheem is not terrible at everything
And Freeman was also evaluated by the scouting staff, the GM etc. If they hadn’t supported the pick, it would never have happened.
talking fast and making up words don't count, so what does he do good
RAHEEM IS A JOKE! OLSON IS GARBAGE! THE GLAZERS SUCK!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Dec 18, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
The defense was an absolute joke.
At no point did I believe they had a shot at coming back. Dallas did whatever they wanted to do, whenever they wanted to do it. It was embarrassing. How many third downs did they even have? The Clayborn sack was a thing of beauty, but it was all for naught as most of the guys decided they didn’t even feel like playing tonight. So mad at myself for wasting my time watching that 2nd half.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
of course they did
this team is 2 years off at best… lets be real when the bucs released averyone after Gru this team had shit they had 2 long term answers on O penn and josheph and 2 long term answers on D talib and jackson besides that this team had shit
Buc's Halftime Leaders
J. Freeman 2-4-14 yards
Beware!!
by Creamsicle Power on Dec 19, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
ok i have the fix
keep rah as head coach…hire lane kiffen the highest paid OC in the nfl and Monte as the highest paid DC keep drafting and we all kno both sides af the ball are in good hands
ive been suprised
ive been suprised threw all of this lane and monte have never been mentioned…
yeah man, you stumped me...
…I say we re hire Dungy…Dungy hires Gruden to be the new QB coach. Bring in Jeff Fisher to be the DB coach and let JoePa be the new figure head…how’s that sound?
im being real..
you can easily pay lane more to be OC and Monte was the highest paid DC in the league before he left…that is why i lol every time i hear how cheap the glaziers are…thats a joke..they had a top 5 paid head coach the highest pais DC paid a Qb who they did not have to over a rupurd spleen…then paid caddi full price threw rehab…they do shit right…its bs..like caddy be real he got paid to sit and go threw rehab left for a min contract to the rams…why to stick it too us? hesighned for a min and people say the glaiers are messed up…he was paid and paid well…more then what any other owners would have paid..its bs
Tell me your kidding!
Lane Kiffin is the biggest douche bag in all of american football on all levels! IDK how monte raised someone like that! That’d be great to get Monte back but the hell with his idiot son!
Lane is terrible and Monte is old
Not happening.
Yugly.
by aakks on Dec 18, 2011 7:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I am guessing the obvious sarcasm didn't transfer over...
JoePa being the new figure head wasn’t strong enough…my bad.
rah relates to players
he knows what it takes to win…u bring back fan confidence .u have exp on both sides of the ball…win win win
Raheem is back next year
I get the impression that the Glazers are cheap. Im betting they keep Morris one more year and dont pay him squat since they’ll be finished paying gruden off this year. Then in the 2013 season they’ll probly spend big bucks.
There is no*#%@ way Raheem survives this season...
He is a useless HC and I do not care if the players "love’ him. That is part of the problem here, and player-friendly coaches rarely survive at this level. Respect over love please.
Need a head-crackin hard *ss to come in here and turn boys into men. Men that are accountable for their poor play. Many heads need to roll – many heads.
by Cracker Ball on Dec 18, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Draft
If we pick to high for a CB other than claiborne and he is off the board what LB do we pick??
by Jediel3 on Dec 18, 2011 9:16 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Yep
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 18, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
I only wish we had different people
evaluating and making these draft picks. Clayborn is the only guy that Raheem/Dominik have chosen that can actually play at a high level.
Too early to make a negative judgment about most of their picks
There are a few definite clunkers (Myron Lewis, for example), but Freeman, Benn, Williams, McCoy, Price, Bowers, Foster, etc. still have the potential to work out long term
Eight straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.
by RookTakesYou on Dec 18, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Mccoy hasn't shown anything. Foster....
…would probably be better at weak side LBer. he is too young to learn a new position and run the D. He is thinking too much. The jury is out on Freeman…personally, I think he’s garbage…but he will get another year. Benn? really…lol. Williams drops more passes than he makes….He definitely isn’t a #1 guy. He’s a solid #2 or #3 on most other teams. Price=lose weight dude, Bowers…? who knows, he hasn’t done anything as of yet, but give him a pass. Obviously these are the guys we have and we have to hope they pan out. I only hope that Rah is gone before this year’s draft. Talib has to go. Myron Lewis…bye. Jeremy Trueblood…c ya. We need a veteran QB (even as backup) Also, maybe a RB than can play on 3rd down. Blount is a talent, but he needs a counterpart…Lumpkin ain’t the guy. The teams needs upgrades at just about every position. This is the worst Bucs teams since the 1986 Lehman Bennett days.
McCoy was playing like a star before getting injured
I can’t believe how many people think he’s shown nothing. It’s nonsense.
And while a lot of players are not producing right now, that has as much to do with the situation of the team and the coaching as with the talent level.
This team has plenty of talent and doesn’t need upgrades at every position. But losing eight straight will make you look bad.
Obviously we are going to have to agree
to disagree. McCoy hasn’t done anything in my opinion. Also, many pros have noted he isn’t doing much. I am glad you like the talent on this team, but some hard truth needs to set in before the Bucs can be a great team again. Hopefully the fans can make enough stink (as if not selling tickets is enough) to force the owners to get new leadership. I think many would see some truth in my rant above.
"Many pros" = Shaun King
And I’ll trust Steve White’s word over Shaun King.
This is the same team that beat the Falcons and Saints, and that went 10-6 last season. There are holes, but we’re not talking about the 2008 Lions here. Losing will make a team seem worse than it is, especially when it starts to give up and lose in blowouts.
not just Shaun King.
…if we’re going the radio route, Ian Beckles mirrors the same…he talks daily about the poor play of McCoy. Speaking of blowouts (14+ pts.) This team has been blown out more this year than we were 1997-2002 combined. Its not a good team dude. I understand your optimism…I want this team to succeed…
How many times do we have to see Freeman put the ball on the ground or see Aqib Talib start a fight or be caught laughing on the sidelines while we’re getting blown out, or seeing someone get a personal foul call at the most inopportune time before we admit ‘this team isn’t good"?
Ian Beckles has 0 credibility in my book
As do most radio hosts, to be honest.
Steve White does a defensive line breakdown every week. He watches every play focusing on the defensive line. And he played DE in the NFL for seven years, six of them with the Bucs. He knows what he’s talking about when it comes to D-line play, and he’s not a radio host and has no agenda to create controversy. I trust him over Shaun King and Ian Beckles, especially when it comes to D-line play.
McCoy was playing great football before his injury this season. He really was.
And, again, I’m not saying this is a good team. It’s not. It has lost eight straight games. I’ve never over the past 5 weeks said it’s a good team.
But I like to dig deeper and look at why it’s not a good team. Talent has something to do with it, but it’s not the key issue at hand. The team is simply playing at a level far below its talent.
Doms lack of pursuit regarding F/As...
to me, is the largest single issue. We are just talent-deficient in some very key areas, and our depth players aren’t even all that deep. CB and LB are huge needs, and a speedy WR, some OL and RB improvement are also needed. It is very odd how everybody “imploded” exactly at the same time, so I say the talent was/is not there the way some felt. the 10-6 2010 were clearly an anomaly and 2009/2011 are much more accurate representations of our actual quality as a team. Ugh.
Also some poor *ss coaching from top to bottom has to be up there too. Rah, Olson and the rest should be ashamed of themselves. They will all pay for this with their jobs, but it does not give me back the last 3 years of my life spent rooting for a pretty sucky team.
by Cracker Ball on Dec 18, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
True
I’ve seen alot of draft sites which show is picking zach brown
by Jediel3 on Dec 18, 2011 9:51 AM EST via mobile reply actions
He would be a great target if we trade down some
Yugly.
by aakks on Dec 18, 2011 10:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It the 2 top CBs are gone (doubtful)...
then moving down to add picks is an excellent idea. We need lots of help.
by Cracker Ball on Dec 18, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Buc's Halftime Leaders
Josh Freeman: 2 – 4 – 14 yards
Beware!!
by Creamsicle Power on Dec 18, 2011 6:57 PM EST reply actions

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