The 2010 draft is starting to look bad
by aakks on Nov 28, 2011 11:11 AM EST
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It is too early to say it with certainty, but it is time to start talking about it. The Buc's 2010 draft is starting to look bad. Here's where we're at now.
2a. Brian Price - More serious injury issues. He has been doing pretty well this year and he is unquestionably tough after coming back from that gruesome injury. He is injured now, but hopefully that isn't too serious. In any case, the bottom line is injuries have prevented us from getting the player we drafted.
2b. Arrelious Benn - He hasn't been getting very open and has been dropping balls. He's our biggest deep threat, but nobody is scared of him.
3. Myron Lewis - Maybe a year early, but I'm calling bust here. Biggers are Mack aren't that great, but they're completely outplaying Lewis. I don't think he even makes this team if we weren't so poor at corner.
4. Mike Williams - Really struggling this year with getting open and drops. I'm trying not to compare him to Clayton, but... He needs to have a good year next year or the Clayton comparisons are going to start coming fast.
6. Brent Bowden - Obviously a bust.
7a. Dekoda Watson - In my opinion, this is the only player on this list that is outperforming his draft slot. I still don't think he is starter quality on most teams, but he should be a starting LB on this team.
7b Cody Grimm - Sorry I forgot him on the first pass. While he is in the game, he is definitely over performing for his draft slot. Unfortunately, like McCoy, 2 years and 2 season ending injuries.
Like I said, it is too early to call this a bad draft. Things may still work out. If Price and McCoy come back with good seasons next year and stay relatively injury free, Williams plays like his rookie year, and Benn improves, hey it was a good draft. However, there is a good chance the 2010 draft will not look good in hindsight in a couple years.
If our strategy is to build through the draft, it is time to start talking about how we're doing.
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You forgot Cody Grimm
Who has definitely outplayed his draft slot, despite being on IR.
And while Mike Williams hasn’t had the great sophomore year people were expecting, he has still been much better than you can expect from a fourth-rounder.
Other than that, I can’t really disagree with anything.
You're right I forgot Grimm
Let me add him.
As for Williams, we drafted him in the 4th and he only fell that far due to character concerns. I’d say he’s fine on the character front, but has seriously underplayed the expectations of him this year. Next year will be crucial for him. Sophmore slump or bust? We’ll see after next year. I’m hoping for the slump because he sure had a good year last year.
Yugly.
Grimm has stuck...
but is a liability in pass coverage. He needs upgraded just like everybody else (*I give T-Jack and incomplete because of him time away).
by Cracker Ball on Nov 28, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
I'd prefer him to Jones
I agree in general though, I think he is depth quality not starter quality. He has still outplayed his draft position other than the crushing injuries.
Yugly.
He has filled in when necessary...
but valid starters are needed here to make any forward progress. Sean Jones was a stop gap signing, and I can’t believe he has not lost his starting position. That is the biggest testament to our talent-depleated roster (especially in the LB and DB positions).
We can not get where we need to be without adding some select F/As. Our front office is not THAT good and exclusively using the draft (and undrafted F/As) is not enough.
by Cracker Ball on Nov 28, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
The injuries issue is what bothers me
Is there something going wrong with conditioning or with how these players are set to play on-field that’s causing this rash of season-ending wrecks?
Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!
Rash? Last season the Bucs were unlucky with injuries
But this season it’s been nothing special for an NFL team. Injuries happen.
Good Post,
How about writing up one about the 09 draft?
Still waiting for the day that the NFL comes back to LA...
The 09 draft completely hinges on Freeman
Get with me after next season. I think we should know by then.
Yugly.
Freeman, Miller, Stroughter, Biggers at this point
I think we can write off Miller as a poor backup. Stroughter and Biggers represent very good return for seventh-rounders, though.
Ok let's do this
1. Freeman has one stellar year and one horrible year now, not counting his rookie partial year. This was a good draft if he can get it together, it was a terrible draft if he can’t.
3. Miller – bust
4. Kyle Moore – bust
5. Xavier Fulton – bust
7a. Biggers – outplaying his draft slot (but still shouldn’t be starting)
7b. Stroughter – outplaying his draft slot
Yugly.
7a. Biggers – outplaying his draft slot (but still shouldn’t be starting)
No way!!! Biggers is one of the main reasons the team is ranked 31st in defense. The opposing team has two options, run the ball or throw at Biggers, and both work.
"I'd run over my mother to win the Super Bowl." - Russ Grimm
Feh, hyperbole
He’s not a great cornerback, but he also makes a bunch of plays per game. And any seventh-rounder who stays on a roster outplays his draft slot, let alone one who contributes as much as Biggers does.
He plays because we refuse to bring adequate replacements...
he is nickle/dime quality but we won’t sign anybody valid and only draft DBs late probably because Rah fancies himself a DB guru.
Hasn’t really proved out that way…
by Cracker Ball on Nov 29, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be thrilled if Biggers was depth
and be ok with him in the nickel. For a 7th rounder that’s outplaying his draft slot.
Yugly.
No way
We’re way too thin at corner even if we draft one and get a free agent. We still need backup corners and he is the best we have in that role.
Yugly.
Arguably, Elbert Mack has been better than Biggers this year
It still amazes me every time I write that.
A defense ranked #31 does not inspire confidence in one's defensive coordinator. Any head coach knows this: own up to it, Raheem- hire a full time DC and put your full focus on ONE of your jobs.
by RookTakesYou on Nov 30, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Mack and Biggers would both be a good fit in nickel and dime packages.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 1, 2011 3:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He is always hurt as a CB...
so all of that extra contact at the S position does not bode well for him.
by Cracker Ball on Nov 29, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Myron Lewis is a bust!! End of story...
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 1, 2011 3:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
But would you want Lewis over Barber at saftey?
Because that seems to be the course were taking!
by BuCNasty-BooG on Dec 1, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
freemans worst attribute this year
is that he’s not clutch anymore. the int to urlacher that could have won the game. then that int late in the titans game then a fumble a couple of minutes later
by Carlitin1988 on Nov 29, 2011 7:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That's good
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
Sander, you are very astute in your comments...
Guess thats why your the boss over your minions…. Lol
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 1, 2011 3:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Chicago game, here's what I saw, on the very first play of the game, the camera zoomed in on Freeman,
he was soaked with sweat and looked nervous as hell, I commented on it in the game thread. Since then lots of people have been noticing the same thing, Freeman looking scared, and lost on the sideline, so i know it’s not just me. I guess that’s what happens when you surround your so called “franchise quarterback” with hacks, like olson and vanpelt.
RAHEEM IS A JOKE! OLSON IS GARBAGE! THE GLAZERS SUCK!
by bucfanlostiniowa on Nov 29, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, i've posted on it as well.
He just doesn’t have the confidence or the command of the offense he used to. He literally strolls onto the field instead of jog onto it, and he also comes into the game with his chin and shoulders down. I said it last week, something’s up!
Still waiting for the day that the NFL comes back to LA...
I third that!
It is painful to watch…. Fire olson now!!!
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Dec 1, 2011 3:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The 2010 draft will not dissapoint next season
McCoy is very good and now with both his Biceps fixed hopefully he shouldn’t have any more injury problems.
Brian Price is a monster when hes playing witch isnt often.
Benn Hardly gets to play i blame Olson for is unproductive season hes not getting looks or used properly.
Lewis has alot of potential but has been hurt every since we drafted him just like price!
MIke Williams he started off very slow but i think thats because hes been double teamed all year It looks like hes finally adapting and starting to play great again and you cant forget Frees not playing well and Olson is stupid!
Bowden ahhahahahahahahahaha lol
Watson this has been eating me up all year he needs to play alot this guys a animal especially when we blitz him hes outplayed his draft pick easily!Hes possibly are best linebacker that dosnt even play.
Grimm Well grimm played amazing when filling in for tanard his 1st year.He looked like we found a diamond in the ruff but this year he didnt look the same at all and now hes on ir again poor guy.
This class has been murdered by injury’s But i wouldn’t say its a bad draft at all. Just think if this whole class stayed healthy it would be possibly one of our best draft classes in years and with the lock out and all that led to more injurys in my opinion lets see them all year 3 to decide if its a bad draft i grantee next year this class will not disappoint!
When training camp 2012 closes out...
we can make a judgement on our 2009 draft quality. It will have then been 3 years, on a talent deficient team – if you’re gone from here, you are bad.
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