Tampa Bay Buccaneers CB Myron Lewis is rapidly falling down the depth chart
by Sander on Oct 26, 2011 8:00 PM EDT
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I like Myron Lewis. He's a very physical player with a lot of talent, but he has a lot to learn as an NFL cornerback. So much so, in fact, that he was inactive this weekend despite apparently being fully healthy: he didn't appear on an injury report before the game. Rookie seventh-round pick Anthony Gaitor was active instead of Myron Lewis. Yes, the Bucs apparently think the undersized seventh-round rookie who can't do much on special teams is more ready to play in an NFL game than the second-year player who is a physical specimen and was a third-round draft pick. Whoops.
So how does this happen? Well, missing most of two offseasons with injuries obviously doesn't help a young, unskilled player get up to speed. The fact that Elbert Mack has been playing very well as the dime cornerback this season doesn't help, and neither does the emergence of Anthony Gaitor as a useful cornerback.
But someone with Myron Lewis' physical talents should be able to overcome those hurdles. But this season he hasn't been able to get onto the field, and now he can't even beat out Anthony Gaitor as the sixth cornerback - despite the fact that Lewis has to be a better special teamer than the undersized rookie.
What's most disappointing about this situation is the sheer talent of Myron Lewis that seems to be going to waste. He has the talent to be a very good cornerback and displayed that at times last season, even managing to win a jump-ball battle with Calvin Johnson.
It's much too early to write off Lewis. We're only part-way through his second season and he has missed a lot of time because of injuries. The Bucs also have the option of converting him to safety, as he has the size and skillset to succeed at the position. He can still become a good NFL cornerback, but the signs aren't good right now.
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Conversion to Safety or...
with his physical talents maybe he’s a wide out receiver. It’d be a shame to see a 3rd rounder go to waste.
I do not like Myron Lewis
… and was critical of the pick back when it happened. That was a good year for DBs and he was a fairly high selection that has simply not panned out. He can’t even beat out Elbert Mack. I look at all of the players taken after Lewis in Round 3 and it makes me wonder what could have been.
by Cracker Ball on Oct 26, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
What players?
I just went and looked at corners taken after Lewis and none of them are anything special yet.
Colts: Kevin Thomas
Bengals: Brandon Ghee
Eagles: Trevard Lindley
Seahawks: Walter Thurmond
Cowboys: Awkwasi Owusa-Ansah
Falcons: Dominque Franks
Broncos: Perrish Cox
Bears: Josh Moore
Texans: Sherrick McManis
Dolphins: Nolan Carroll
Steelers: Crezdon Butler
Cowboys: Jamar Wall
Cardinals: Jorrick Calvin
Panthers: Jordan Pugh
Rams: Marquis Johnson
Raiders: Jeremy Ware
Panthers: RJ Stanford
Broncos: SydQuan Thompson
I don’t know every team’s starting corners off the top of my head, but I know most of them. I don’t any of those guys are starting games for their teams but I may be mistaken. Either way, it would appear that it was not a good year for corners. Kyle Wilson, Joe Haden, Devin McCourty, and Patrick Robinson are all big names, but they were all taken in the first round. Haden and McCourty are the only corners in the entire class holding down starting spots to my knowledge.
I wasn’t a fan of the pick either. He was coming off a huge injury in college and didn’t overly impress at the combine. Not sure what Dominik and Raheem saw in him other than an above average combo of size and athleticism. I think they reached at the pick. Two corners went off the board right before Lewis was selected with the 3rd pick of the 3rd round. Too bad we didn’t go TE in that round. Ed Dickson, Tony Moeaki and Jimmy Graham all went after Lewis in the third.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
Would have liked to have taken Jimmy Graham there, he is damn near uncoverable for a TE.
Still waiting for the day that the NFL comes back to LA...
i Think
there is something we do not know yet, i mean just physically he is a beast, maybe they are making the switch to Safety, but we are kinda short at DB after Talib, we have Barber but who is left? i thought Lewis was next inline…..
A couple draft analysts said that would be a good idea when we drafted him. We do have a safety on our roster that played corner at Syracuse before we drafted him. He could show Lewis the tricks of the trade…
by flash_kiley on Oct 27, 2011 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think its safe to say...
That real Bucs fans all know we are grabbing a corner in the first round of the draft. CB or LB in rds 1/2 respectively. The OL. No one can convince me otherwise.
1st: CB, 2nd: LB, 3rd: RB
You can generally get premier players at those positions in those rounds.
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." ~ Mark Twain
I like this...
Once we get more quality and depth at the positions you listed, I think in a year or two we’ll be stacked and will have a legitimate shot at the title.
I think we will also need an upgrade at RT and C.
Faine is good but he’s always injured. I would like our draft to go like this:
1st CB
2nd RT
3rd RB
4th C
5th CB
Still waiting for the day that the NFL comes back to LA...
I think the Bucs will allow Dotson and Trueblood to battle for the RT job instead of drafting one
I really like Dotson.
I'd like to get a TE high in the draft, too
I know I was all “Bucs ain’t doing that” this year, but Winslow to me hasn’t looked the same and is probably declining now.
Yeah, winslow appears to have hit his ceiling
To bad he hurt his knee so bad on that bike. Then the browns trainers screwed up with the staph infection diagnosis….
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Oct 27, 2011 6:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BOTTOM LINE !!!
We gotta go get the players we want & the players that fit , The elite players there is a rookie scale we dont lose if we trade up in the draft we only three elite diffrence makers away we gotta get agressive in attack our board in sto settling for players thats on the board its fair too say detriot lions stole two of the most dominant players in football from us because we wasnt aggressive in getting who we want , Yall know calvin johnson is who we wanted but they didnt wanna make the trade so we had to settle for the late gaines adams , same goes for suh & mmcoy i like mccoy but im a loser in i like suh stats .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Oct 27, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions
I like Suh but i think part of his game is slightly over-rated.
He’s good but he’s also human if you get what i’m trying to say…
Still waiting for the day that the NFL comes back to LA...
But he is a mean beast
I want that guy to play DT for me. He has an attitude, and he gets after it. Imagine him next to Clayborn. WOWOWOWOW
by BUCSwillDOMINATE on Oct 27, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Suh is talked about as the second coming of Sapp
He isn’t. I’d take McCoy as a pass rusher over Suh, too. They’re very different in style – Suh is all power, McCoy is all explosion. Yes, I know Suh got all those sacks last year, but if you look at the tape McCoy disrupts more plays than Suh does.
Mccoy is a, monster and hes only gonna get stronger. Hes the heart of the d
Thats how I see him
by Carlitin1988 on Oct 27, 2011 6:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Plus Suh and his mates are struggling big time when trying to stop the run
I like McCoy better. Hope he gets them stays healthy.
East Coast Fan
by Bucfan on Oct 27, 2011 6:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ATTACK THE BOARD !!!
Needs in order :
priority #1 : offensive line : john martin stanford , matt kalil usc , riley reiff iowa , brandon washington miami , david decastro stanford , michael brewster ohio state , peter konz wisconsin .
priority #2 : defensive back : lsu morris claiborne , virgina tech jayron hosley , s.carolina stephon gilmore .
priority #3 : running back : alabama trent richardson
priority #4 : linebaker : miami sean spence , n.carolina zach brown , arizona vontaze burfict .
priority #5 : deep threats wr/te : notre dame michael floyd , arizona juron criner , miami travis benjamin , clemson dwayne allen .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Oct 27, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions
JANORIS JENKINS !!!
Given the fact that we have tanard jackson & he had the same problem this kid is going threw now , if we could some how get it over to him to leave the purp alone in understand what he could lose by lookin at t-jack case , Then he could be a huge pick because he shut down the likes of ( aj green , julio jones , alshon jeffrey , ) at florida so think about that bucs nation .
by RIP SEAN TAYLOR 21 on Oct 27, 2011 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
Damn
I thought Lewis played a very good game against the saints, and was starting to think he was turning the corner (no pun intended).
special teams penalties
The thing about high draft picks is they usually work their way up those draft boards by appearing to be ideal physical specimens, while avoiding bad press. Hence, a guy who people often say “he doesn’t even look like a football player” like Cody Grimm goes in the 7th, while someone like, say, Todd Marinovich went in the 1st. In the secondary, it’s all about both fitting into the system and somehow miraculously using those demanding physical (and strategic) abilities to be in the right place at the right time consistently on every play.
Bottom line, draft position is not a great predictor of success in the NFL. Rhonde Barber has turned out as a 3rd rounder to be better than most 1st round draftees, as has Tanard Jackson as a 4th rounder. They somehow found a way to adapt their instincts, self-discipline, wisdom, and physiques to the demands of their positions. Lewis, on the other hand, has only gotten time on the stadium loudspeakers this year for a couple of illegal blocks in the back on punt returns. Maybe he’s a bit like Piscitelli— just not quite a quick enough learner to intuit his way to those ideal spots on the field at full speed. Maybe he hasn’t spent the amount of time over-achiever 6th rounder E.J. Biggers did in the film room (while injured), either.
by Russell Allen Miller on Oct 28, 2011 2:51 PM EDT reply actions
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