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I don't write near as often as I would like, which means my opinions are less published than they were in previous years.  My stats pieces (though they get fewer and fewer each week it seems) don't give me a real chance to say what I think.  With few opinions out there, it makes the predictions stand out that much more. 

Based on those few sentences, you would think I'm about to brag how I predicted a 16-0 season with the Bucs winning away games by two touchdowns, give or take an extra point.  While I did predict two Bucs wins (shameless self plug), I also predicted a 6-10 season.  That prediction seems to be getting a ton of heat.  The comments being heard the most are "As a Bucs fan, how can you predict a losing season" (I'll let you guess where that one comes from) and "They're 2-0.  You were wrong!".  Two other favorites are "You hate the Bucs" and "Why predict 6-10?  You should've said 10-6 and then let the season play out." 

Let me address each one.

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Let dive into these questions/quotes in order.  First up, the "How can I predict a losing season."  First off, it doesn't bring me any enjoyment to say that my favorite team will finish with a sub .500 record.  I don't get paid anymore to be pessimistic or optimistic.  I evaluated the team from my perspective.  I looked at our average-at-best running attack, young quarterback and volatile offensive line.  I also coupled that with a young defensive line, rangy linebackers, and an "in flux" secondary.  The talent level is higher than 2009 and the schedule is easier for sure.  But I didn't see a Super Bowl contending team.  I also saw a very easy open to the schedule (Cleveland, @ Carolina, neutered Pitt) followed by rough Weeks 9 -14 (@ Atlanta, Carolina, @ San Fran, @ Baltimore, Atlanta, @ Washington).  A good start seemed likely followed by giving some games back.  No shame in that, it's a tough gauntlet to run. 

My prediction of 6-10 was not due to anything other than my perception of the team and schedule.  I also take great pride in being correct as often as possible.  The fan in me wants 19-0 every year, but hubris brings me back o Earth and leads me to be more realistic.  Maybe I underestimated the team, but 6-10, 7-9 is still possible given the schedule.

Next up is the "They're 2-0, you were wrong."  Actually, I wasn't wrong.  These first two games were penciled in as wins given the opponent.  2-0 can lead to 6-10 just as much as it can lead to 10-6.  Lets not get ahead of ourselves.  Enjoy the two wins.  Relish the fact that a young team is winning, is building a blueprint for success, and able to beat teams that they should.  That hasn't always been the case.  When they get to 9-10 wins, tell me I'm wrong.  I will gladly man up, admit it, and celebrate. 

My personal favorite "You hate the Bucs."  You're right.  I absolutely hate them.  That's why I write for a Bucs blog, thats why I own a few Bucs jerseys, thats why I have season tickets, thats why at 1 PM on Sunday I'm planted on the couch for away games, and why I spend the water cooler hours discussing them.  Did you catch the thinly veiled sarcasm?  If you think I hate the Bucs, you are sadly mistaken.  Am I critical of them?  At times I am.  But they are by far my favorite team.  Just because my predictions are somewhat downtrodden doesn't mean I hate the team.  Lets face it, people pick games all the time.  They pick winners and losers, because in sports your team falls into one of those categories every week (lets ignore ties).  No one will predict games correctly 100% of the time, otherwise they'd live in Vegas, run a website guaranteed to pick winners and make tons of money.  So those of us who make picks will be wrong at times.  Sometimes we pick the Bucs to win, sometimes we pick them to lose.  Its funny, last year I had them at 5-11 and everyone called me a homer who was blinded by the team.  Now I pick 6-10 and I hate the Bucs.  Funny how some people just can't make up their minds. 

The last one I'll just say as I've said before.  I like being right.  I don't throw picks out there just to make picks.  I'm competitive and want to win.  If I think a team is 6-10, I'll say that.  I'm not gonna adjust my picks just to appeal to a few people who want to hear nothing but upside.

Now that my rant is done, let me say this.  I'm pleasantly surprised with the Bucs thus far. Freeman is making strides in his development.  Mike Williams is a man child.  Quincy Black and Geno Hayesare solidifying themselves as impact starters.  I've been pretty impressed thus far and am glad to see steps in the right direction.  There are definitely some bad areas (run blocking), but the team is on pace in the rebuild process.  Congrats to the team for a nice win and lets keep building.  Oh, and a note to Raheem Morris and company.  Feel free to prove my 6-10 prediction wrong.  I'll gladly step up and tell you I underestimated the team if you outperform that record.

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I don't find you negative, sarcastic at times, realistic

the Bucs would have to be very lucky to be above 6-10, 8-8 would be a great season. As a fan we all want to go 16-0 and I would love to win PowerBall. Keep up your good work and opinions and sarcasm

by tjbrays on Sep 20, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Hah, I was just driving home from work thinking

Does a 2-0 season negate my 6-10 Prediction? I dont think it does. The schedule gets tougher and other teams will start to hit their rhythm. With that said, If we beat the Steelers and advance to 3-0, I absolutely think my prediction is busted.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Sep 20, 2010 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not entirely sure the schedule gets that much tougher

We still have the Rams, 49ers, Cardinals, Lions and Seahawks left as well as another slate of the Panthers. We have a good shot of winning each of those games, though we’ll probably drop one or two.
The Redskins, Steelers, Bengals, Saintsx2 and Falconsx2 and Ravens are the tough games, I think. But no game is unwinnable and it wouldn’t surprise me to see us win 1 or 2 of those matchups.

by Sander on Sep 20, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The stretch of 3 outta 4 road games (@SF, @ Balt, Atlanta, @ Wash) is the key to the season. Scratch a win or two out of that

and we’re in good shape. Go 1-3 or 0-4 and it’s tough to get it back.

As you can always expect come from behind victory is when you least expect it.

by Buc Wild on Sep 20, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am happy with the wins, however...

we are not a very good team, no matter what our early record would indicate. CAR is just in disarray, but may get it together like they did last year. CLE is not good, so who have we beaten? A win is a win, but they are not all the same when using the victories to boast how great we have become.

Beat PIT, CIN and NO and I will agree with you.

by Cracker Ball on Sep 20, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly...

Well, if you think it was more skill than luck, then you must also think we should beat them again. I’ll take that bet – unless you’re just all talk.

by Cracker Ball on Sep 20, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Us going up to Baltimore I feel is the toughest game we got, since we could steal one of the NO games again being division rivals.

That being said, we have taken a step this year. We are winning winnable games this year thus far and that is a good start for us. Compared to last year where we dropped games against BUF and WAS. Now if we can manage to take one of the games out of CIN, PIT, and BAL, then the future looks bright for us imo.

by NewLogic on Sep 20, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, I think we were all in the 6-10 range to be honest

There are enough Detroits and STL’s on the schedule to get some wins, but they probably won’t win those road games in the middle of the season. It was good to beat Carolina, but they could come back and do the same thing to us in Tampa, especially if Clausen gets experience. When bad teams play each other its hard to take alot out of the performances, but there does appear to be some growth so far :)

by RyanL87 on Sep 20, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carolina

Always does that
Have you noticed how they always have slow starts (in their bad seasons) and then do better in the last 4-5 games?
See 2004 2006 2007 and 2009

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by brotherbrown on Sep 23, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never understood how people could say that predicting a loss was being a bad fan

It’s not like you’re hoping for losses, you’re just being realistic in your evaluation of the team. You’re going to be cheering just as hard as the next guy when the Bucs win a game.

by Sander on Sep 20, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Concur.

Cannons... fire them.

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by Craig T on Sep 20, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I'm going to be just as pissed when we lose.

Predicting losses and taking losses well are mutually exclusive.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Sep 20, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice article BW!!!

If an optimist had his left arm chewed off by an alligator, he might say in a pleasant and hopeful voice, "Well this isn't to bad, I don't have a left arm anymore but at least nobody will ever ask me if I'm left-handed or right-handed" but most of us would say something more along the lines of "Aaaaaa! My arm! My arm!" DANIEL HANDLER (as Lemony Snicket)

by bucnut1 on Sep 20, 2010 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Today is

The most irateting day more like this week cause all my workers are steelers fans and they talk chock BS about this week going to be easy, all I tell them is will see, ur coming to my field, to top it all off when I go home I mean my lane is Notting but steeler flag, if we win this game I’m going to grab gasoline and lighter and burn that ugly flag…

IF U AIN'T A BUC GET THE BUC OUT OF HERE

by WE GOING TO THE SHIP on Sep 20, 2010 5:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Well you know Dallas and Pittsburgh "fans" are the two top "bandwagon fans" teams in the NFL.

If either one had of never won a SB, their “fan” base wouldn’t be like they are now.

If an optimist had his left arm chewed off by an alligator, he might say in a pleasant and hopeful voice, "Well this isn't to bad, I don't have a left arm anymore but at least nobody will ever ask me if I'm left-handed or right-handed" but most of us would say something more along the lines of "Aaaaaa! My arm! My arm!" DANIEL HANDLER (as Lemony Snicket)

by bucnut1 on Sep 20, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chock BS is the WORST

The caller said the boy, after removing the bulb from its socket, left the building and threw the bulb on the ground. When the bulb broke, the caller said the boy screamed "To be the best, you have to beat the best…"

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 20, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can be realistic and optimistic at the same time.

6 wins prior to the season looked more optimistic than realistic.

But with the wins vs NO and GB last year and the good start this year I guess hoping for 9 or 10 wins could be realistic.

But it is the NFL, where weird stuff happens and the better team often loses.

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Sep 20, 2010 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Being a fan

and predicting an improved record (yet still a losing record) from last year is fine.
Being a fan and thrashing the coach, the draft, the owners, and predicting 2-14 is contradictory – even if all of those are legitimate faults.

by Merlin1039 on Sep 20, 2010 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Why is that contradictory?

You can’t be a fan of the team and want it to do well badly, but you can’t see it happening with this coach/draft/owners?

by Sander on Sep 20, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

May I suggest BucStop.Com?

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Sep 20, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

We aren't here to trash anyone.

This site it dedicated to providing honest and at times critical editorial of the team. Every single writer here is a die-hard Bucs fan. Win or Lose. If something we say here isn’t factual, please call us out on it. We are not here to spread falsehoods about the organization.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Sep 20, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA!

UNFNole insulting the commenters all day!

Boom. Outta Here.

by Ryan Gilliss on Sep 20, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

My goal is not to insult anyone.

Simply trying to promote better discussion.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Sep 21, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The S-I-X-T-I-M-E-W-O-R-L-D-C-H-A-M-P-I-O-N-S- are comin to town.I think your qb is gonna be a beast. I hope we dont hurt em’.(seriously) Hope you guys wear them sweet-ass orange throwbacks. Good Luck

by BIGMIKEREESE on Sep 20, 2010 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Bradshaw, Harris, Bleier, Swann, Stallworth, Greene, Ham, Lambert, Blount, Shell don't play anymore

Congrats on the 6 rings and all, but that has nothing to do with this week. You better gain more than 174 total yards this week, because the Bucs aren’t going to give you 6 or 7 turnovers like Tennessee did.

Have a good one.

by jrscott on Sep 21, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHA i love this post

I agree with you 100 percent. Actually, a 6-10 season is an improvement from last season, so your actually not being negative. Either way, most people are blogs are non-thinkers. they just react because they are happy or mad

by ClipperMyth on Sep 20, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe your critics have been reading The Secret...

…thinking that predictions would have an effect on the real world.

by Velveeta on Sep 21, 2010 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

My original prediction was 6-10

But that was based on gut instinct. When I worked through every game on the schedule, considering home and away, strengths and weaknesses, expected morale levels based on previous week’s results for both teams for each game on the schedule, I came up with 7-9. I did not expect to beat the Panthers in Carolina so now we sit pretty at 8-8 in my fantasy/prediction land.

However, after adjusting for weeks one and two, I am no longer predicting a Buccaneer victory over the QB-less Steelers. I just fear we will not move the ball enough to get to the endzone and look for a very ugly all FG loss, 15-9. With any luck Spurlock could break one, or TJ could do a pick 6, and win it for us, but Pittsburgh is scary good on defense so far.

Bottom line, I am demoting the Bucs back to 7-9. BTW, I have the Saints defeating the Ravens in the Super Bowl, but that is for another post.

by jrscott on Sep 21, 2010 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

15-9!

Were you watching our game the other week?

Feeding the Monster since 1984

by brotherbrown on Sep 23, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kudos

I am from Mile High Report and even though I am a huge Broncos fan I predicted 6-10 for my team as well. I entjoyed your article. I think it is fair to say that every fan base has people that are offended if your expectations aren’t over zeleous. They are delusional indiviudals and live in a world of extreme highs and lows. Yet we must learn to love them anyway like Simple Jack.

My wife is a teacher and she sees the same thing with her kids parents. She gets to hear things like “What do you mean my son is goofing off in class?!! He is an absolute angel!! He would never lie to play video games!! How dare you accuse my son of beign anything but a model student!!” Meanwhile the kid is reading at a 2nd grade leve in the 5th grade, and is still having a hard time grasping 12+4.

Anyway good luck against the Steelers. I actually have Tampa Pulling off the upset. I think the Bucs are showing some promise and could finish as high as 8-8, but they really haven’t starting hitting the meat of their schedule yet. Even at 6-10 there is a lot to be hopefull for the future in Tampa.

by agentj007 on Sep 24, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

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