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A Fragile Quarterback Situation

 

As August rolls on, the Buccaneers are looking forward to Saturday night’s game against the Jacksonville Jaguars. I am going to be honest: I do not watch many preseason games. It simply does not interest me. As much as I love the Buccaneers, individual positional battles between second and third stringers are not my bread and butter. That said, I am fascinated by these last two games, because of the major void that has been created at the QB position. The timing of Josh Freeman’s injury could not be worse from an organizational standpoint. Although word is Freeman will be ready to go against the Browns in week one, there is always a chance that he will have some sort of setback on his road to recovery. With only two weeks to pick up a veteran backup that would right the ship should Freeman be unable to complete the 16 game schedule in 2010. If Freeman is unable to go, it appears the frontrunner for the opening day start would be Josh Johnson. Behind him on the depth chart are 2nd year QB Rudy Carpenter and undrafted rookie Jevan Snead. All three will see significant action against the Jaguars and Texans. Let’s take a quick look at this mini-battle and see what the Buccaneers currently have at the Quarterback position without Freeman at the helm.


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Josh Johnson: This is Johnson’s best chance to influence the coaching staff and show his ability as an NFL backup. If he performs well over the next two weeks against opposing starting defenses, then Johnson will most likely remain with the team for the foreseeable future. Johnson’s biggest two flaws in my opinion are his pocket presence and his ability to take care of the football. He often looks uncomfortable under center and certainly looks to scramble at any opportunity. He has to learn to take care of the football better, (see Carolina game last year) and show he can guide an offence down the field. This will most likely not be the last time Johnson will appear in NFL action. Starting QB’s are always susceptible to injuries, and right now Johnson will be the man who will be called on should Freeman miss any time.

 

Rudy Carpenter: Certainly the wild card in this battle. Claimed off of the Cowboys practice squad, Carpenter has only appeared in one preseason game prior to 2010. That said, he was a 3 year starter at Arizona State and looked competent against the Chiefs last week.  I feel he should get the majority of snaps over the next two weeks. Johnson is a seasoned vet compared to Rudy, and Carpenter is the one who needs the experience in game-day situations. He put up good numbers Similar to Johnson, this will be his best chance to remain on an NFL roster for the coming season. 

 

Jevan Snead: Snead is clearly a long shot to stay on the roster for the long term. The former Ole Miss standout has struggled mightily since his stellar sophomore season, when he threw for over 2700 yards with a TD:INT ratio of 26:13. These are very solid numbers for a sophomore in the SEC, and many were touting him as a future first-round draft pick. However he was unable to throw with a great deal of accuracy at any point, and following a disappointing junior season, no team took a chance on him on draft day. The Bucs scooped him up for depth, and now after being re-acquired he will have one more chance to make an impact.

 

What does Bucs Nation think about this trio? There doesn’t appear to be a lot of quality here, which is a major cause for concern. Starting all 16 games is a very difficult task for an NFL QB, (The last time a Buccaneer QB accomplished this was in 2003) and it is important to know what you have in your depth chart. Freeman holds all the keys at this point, and keeping him on the field is crucial if the Buccaneers hope to enjoy any long term success. 

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JJ should give the UFL a shot

he flash’s some skill every now and then and I think if he was able to get exprience being a full time starter going against some of the lesser defenses there he might be able to come back to the NFL and contribute more to a team cause at it stands he is a decent backup at best in NFL which doesn’t really help us and he is always gonna be #2 as long as Freeman is in town
though it might be harder for the Buc’s to let him go now that the QB free aganecy pool isn’t really filled with any soild verterns to back up freeman

by ShiftyShayne on Aug 26, 2010 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

J.J for UFL HOF.

So you can keep knocking but won't knock me down
No love lost, no love found

by 4QB on Aug 27, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol I really only meant he go there for 1 or 2 seasons

thats most likely how long until the UFL folds anyway so he won’t have any problem getting out of his contract to go back ot the NFL

by ShiftyShayne on Aug 27, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

He is getting paid more to be a backup quarterback than he would be a starter in the NFL. I also think your point about him not being a good backup right now is a little misleading. How much do you expect out of a backup?

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Aug 27, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tampa? That is where the game is being played.

If an optimist had his left arm chewed off by an alligator, he might say in a pleasant and hopeful voice, "Well this isn't to bad, I don't have a left arm anymore but at least nobody will ever ask me if I'm left-handed or right-handed" but most of us would say something more along the lines of "Aaaaaa! My arm! My arm!" DANIEL HANDLER (as Lemony Snicket)

by bucnut1 on Aug 27, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Picking up a veteran seems like a good idea to me

All this talk about backups and being happy with the backups we have while Freeman is out leads me to beleive that the organization is really high on Freeman. What happens if he doesn’t play well at all. JJ is the next best thing to salvage a season should something go bad? I say replace one with someone like Kellen Clemens or some other old fart who can win football games. Does Brad Johnson ring any bells?

by Da' Shwashbuckler on Aug 26, 2010 10:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Let me just say I am huge Freeman fan and I beleive he can do it.

But sometimes having that vet around eases everybodies tension a little I think.

by Da' Shwashbuckler on Aug 26, 2010 10:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ouch, Guys don't reply to spammers-

I know it’s funny but it’s something that will have to go away on its own.

So you can keep knocking but won't knock me down
No love lost, no love found

by 4QB on Aug 27, 2010 3:11 AM EDT reply actions  

No....it's something that requires banning.

They don’t really care if you talk about it or not.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Aug 27, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not many Vets out there to choose

I am nervous going into the season until Free is healthy and/or JJ can prove himself as a worthy backup. I think we go with what we got: Little experience.

by buccer on Aug 27, 2010 5:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I'll say it again...

Go Magic/Bucs/Gators/Rays!

by chiefs_55 on Aug 27, 2010 6:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Define that....because JJ is pretty much on par with most NFL backups.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Aug 27, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate that a guy is assumed to be better just because he's a vet.

I don’t see how Leftwich/Garcia/Brunell’s lack of talent is compensated so much by their “NFL experience” that it makes them better options than Johnson or Carpenter.

Picking age over upside makes absolutely no sense to me.

If John Jaso somehow strikes out, it means you didn’t do your job right as an umpire.
by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT

by Vin on Aug 27, 2010 7:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Also, exactly who did you have in mind when you wrote this and why is he better than our current options?
With only two weeks to pick up a veteran backup that would right the ship should Freeman be unable to complete the 16 game schedule in 2010

If John Jaso somehow strikes out, it means you didn’t do your job right as an umpire.
by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT

by Vin on Aug 27, 2010 7:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Because statistically

Leftwich performed best last year, and Garcia put up solid numbers while he was here. There were certainly no 18 pick seasons.

by RyanL87 on Aug 27, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

What I meant was

If this had happened earlier, or if management decided they needed a veteran backup, they could have picked up someone like Derek Anderson Marc Bulger or Kyle Boller. Obviously all of these options are not great but they certainly provide more insurance then say a Josh Johnson.

by RyanL87 on Aug 27, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's far from a certainty.

Anderson had a worse rating than Johnson last year and looked all around awful. Bulger is toast and very injury prone and Kyle Boller is fighting for 3rd string on the f’n Raiders for pete’s sake.

None of them have the same time with Olson or his system and none of them come anywhere close to matching Johnson’s mobility. Just because you heard their name on sportscenter doesn’t mean they’re better options than “a Josh Johnson.”

If John Jaso somehow strikes out, it means you didn’t do your job right as an umpire.
by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT

by Vin on Aug 27, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I realize this

If Freeman gets hurt however, the only chance the Bucs have at competing is by relying on the rebuilt defense. If this is the case, they would need a backup QB that would take care of the football and not turn it over. (yes, Anderson and Boller are bad examples of this). Johnson had 8 picks and fumbled 7 times in 4 games as a starter. I’m sure Sage/Bulger/Clemens/Carr/The towel guy would fare better.

by RyanL87 on Aug 27, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sage Rosenfels (sp?) anyone

looks like he might be on the outs in Minny and we could use a decent veteran backup

by CelticPride on Aug 27, 2010 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Rosenfels would be great.

He really deserves to be a starter in the NFL. Kinda hope Arizona goes after him.

If John Jaso somehow strikes out, it means you didn’t do your job right as an umpire.
by raysrule44 on Jul 9, 2010 8:37 PM CDT

by Vin on Aug 27, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are many teams out there

who have below average quality players at backup QB. Most notably are some of the best teams in the NFL.

Can anyone name the backup for the Colts and how many games hes started and won?
Can anyone name the backup for the Patriots and how many games hes started and won?
What about the Chargers, Giants, or even Green Bay?

My point is most teams now adays are not spending top dollar on “experienced” backups anymore just in case their top guy gets hurt. It just doenst happen anymore the lone exception being the Ravens.

In all honesty a young athletic semi accurate QB much like JJ is about as good as it gets in the NFL now adays as he doesnt cost much or expect much by the way of competing for a starting Job.

Josh Freeman will be better than Matt Ryan, not so sure about Drew Brees!!

by TruBuc on Aug 27, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Aug 27, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fumble...

So you can keep knocking but won't knock me down
No love lost, no love found

by 4QB on Aug 27, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

To wish we had not kept Leadfoot.

McCown is and will be a Great #2 QB he wants to be #1 and will work his but off to get there. Had we have kept McCown instead of Leftwich, we would be in a much better position.

by RustyRhino on Aug 27, 2010 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

How come JJ weighs like 150lbs?

Ain’t the trainers gonna beef him up a lil?

by Titankillah on Aug 27, 2010 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

!!!!

Can any of us really argue about who makes the team and who does not? Let’s face it Sabby is a douche. Clayton couldn’t catch HIV from an AIDS infested Haitian hooker. I could steal his wallet, his car, and his Dr. wife. I dare him to catch my fat ass! If he did he would drop me anyways and laugh at his effort afterwards. Sad. D. Ward needs to go the way of caca. Flush the turd. I LOVE the Bucs. Just worried about the lack of “Managerial Enthusiasm” placed around them. Love the effort out of Mike Williams. Could we really be a passing threat? He will try his best. Bucs fans…. We are a rare breed. We are like shitty husbands that don’t expect their crappy wives to do much. All we ask is that you love us as much as we love you and quit shitting the bed when it is game time! No one wants to pick up after your mess and then try to explain to their friends why it happened! BUT if you are shitty we will be the best one’s to tell you why and how to fix it. F United! Soccer means," Let’s waste money on a team that hates us yet still has better down field passing than us." Shit you own them both… sign the Kicker. Cross promote. Learn how to work kid. Hootie Up! Wayne Faris is an A HOLE! I’m out and not like Seacrest.

by Chris Ackerman on Aug 28, 2010 6:58 AM EDT reply actions  

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