Is Ruud Next?
With the Buccaneers and Penn agreeing on a long-term contract, does that mean that Barrett Ruud is next? LT Donald Penn threatened a hold-out, very publicly, for quite some time. The Bucs were also very rigid in saying that they would not negotiate new terms for Penn. While Penn showed up at Fan Appreciation day, he also made it a point to miss OTA's and the first day of Training Camp (even though the first practice will be on Saturday). I thought that Donald Penn had all the leverage in the situation, as the coaching staff and GM were likely cringing at the idea of starting Demar Dotson. While Dotson is a young player with plenty of potential (most likely at guard), there is a large drop-off between Penn and the youngster. While common-place amongst NFL players, Penn may not win any awards for the manner in which he handled himself. In fact, the organization probably won the PR war during this saga. However, his diligence in holding out quite literally paid off.
In a completely opposite fashion of how Donald Penn handled himself, Barrett Ruud was asking for roughly the same thing, a long-term deal. However, when the off-season workouts (both voluntary and mandatory) rolled around, Ruud was there. When offered a 1 Year Tender, Ruud signed it. Ruud supported Penn in his holdout, but it was clear that Penns path would not be his own.
"I fully support Donald, and hopefully things get worked out. That’s all I know about that part. … Until you get a decent contract, you kind of think about that every year..."
Ruud has certainly vocalized his displeasure with his contract and his hopes for a new one. I also believe though that Ruud understands his production took a steep decline last year from 2008. In my opinion, there is no doubt that with a return to that T2, that it will be quickly corrected. The feelings seem to be much more mixed on Ruud than in regards to Penn. Penn is clearly an elite talent who ate too much. Ruuds abilities have come into question quite a few times with readers of this site and fans in general. I must admit that I am quite a supporter of his. Regardless, what does Penn's new contract mean for Barrett?
Well, first, it means that the Glazers will spend the money to lock up the talent they currently have on their roster. Something that many fans, including myself, have questioned. It also means that they are looking for fewer distractions and more cohesiveness in the locker room. I don't particullary see Ruud being a source of conflict, but I also think it is a little bit of a distraction. With the money being spent on Penn, I would also not be surprised to see Ruud amp up the negotiations through the media more now.
What do you think Bucs Nation? Is this any indication that Ruud will see a new payday in the near future, or will this dispute carry on into next off-season?
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This wasn't intended to rain on Penn's parade either.
Congrats to Penn. Let’s move on though.
"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum
I hope Ruud isn't next, I'd like to see him move on.
"Training camp is a little different. To me, that's when you establish the men. You take off your underwear." Raheem Morris
I think Ruud is a good player who deserves a contract
But I don’t think he’s getting one. At least not until he proves himself during the season.
First, he hasn’t given them a reason to give him a contract because he’s not holding out.
Second, his situation is different: this was Penn’s second year as a restricted free agent, while it is Ruud’s first.
Third, they have more depth at LB than they do at LT to possibly replace Ruud.
What about Penn's weight issue? Is it still an issue?
Hope there is some kind of clause that will keep him motivated next couple years……
"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important -like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
It will always be an issue, I would think
He worked off all the excess weight this offseason, but guys like that tend to struggle with weight throughout their career. It hasn’t stopped him from being good as a Left Tackle so far, though.
Penn had already loss the weight required
by keysersoze19 on Jul 30, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you really Raheem Morris and trying to fool us all?
"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum
Keyser's PC is available on the teams website today
"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important -like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
I think Ruud will haft to
show his versatility, in blitzing, stopping the run, and in coverage. He will also heft to guide this defense. Not only is he being graded by his abilities, but also his leadership and the fact that the MLB in the Tampa2 directs a lot of traffic. Reports say he realizes his challenges and is doing all he can to overcome them, the question is can he?
I agree with you Keyser, but he has had plenty of time and chances to prove he can, and he hasn't.
I think the only reason he got the tender is because there’s nobody else out there to bring in to replace him.
"Training camp is a little different. To me, that's when you establish the men. You take off your underwear." Raheem Morris
How many 4-3 MLB would you take before him?
I’m saying maybe 5 at most. You don’t just dump a guy like that.
"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum
I think he is a quality MLB
Granted he didn’t prove it last year but he was out of his element most of the year under a new defensive scheme. I believe he will make major improvements this year.
That's why I said they haven't dumped him yet.
I know I’m not in the majority here because I don’t think he’s very good, and I know there really aren’t any other MLB out there right now. But, I think the lack of a new deal is because of just that. We’ve been spoiled with very good LB’s over the years, Ruud just isn’t special.
"Training camp is a little different. To me, that's when you establish the men. You take off your underwear." Raheem Morris
But Ruud's still good
And good is good enough. You can’t have elite players at every spot on the team.
Is there anybody out there
Does anyone know of a 2011 FA or Draft pick that can fill his spot? Not that I am a Ruud fan club member, but I just don’t see anyone available this year or next.
Rumors have it that we are going to trade for Albert Haynesworth and make him a MLB.
"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum
Wasn't there a fanpost about how he's lost weight and wants to play end?
"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum
Yes
DE only for sacks and personal glory. Don’t have much Love for Fat Al. Get paid that much guaranteed cash and You could put me on rollerskates stick a mop up my a** and I would clean the entire facility
I would do alot more than that for that kind of money.
But in order to keep my dignity i won’t name those things…
Josh Freeman is Big Ben 2.0
by TheOneInRed on Jul 31, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
And if they don't,
Come 2020 the 1st overall pick will be offered the white house…
Josh Freeman is Big Ben 2.0
by TheOneInRed on Jul 31, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Rudd is getting a deal any time soon
Due to the fact Rudd and Penn’s situation is very different in this aspect. Penn about to be on his 2nd straight year of RFA tender due to CBA complications while for Rudd this was the only year he got tagged. Penn was a lot more justified IMO in setting out of OTA’s for that reason and the Bucs management may have recognized that some and could easily use that as an excuse on why they decided to cave in on his deal.
"I've got nothing to prove,"- Warren Sapp
Rudd's day,,,,,,,,
will come. If he has a good year, the Bucs need to keep him. If he is lack-luster this year, I don’t think the Bucs will ante. He is a solid defender, but worth how much?
If his run abilities were as good as his pass coverage...
it would be a slam dunk for him. With a little time, he will have some better players in front of him. That should help his run play. If he can really handle the position, then I say pay the man.
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