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Some worthy notes from Rick Stroud

 

Rick Stroud, writer for the St. Pete Times, got some great pieces of information out of Mark Dominik in his most recent article. Here are some of the pieces that stood out to me as I was reading this: 

The Bucs general manager said he also is making progress on a five- or six-year deal for Oklahoma defensive tackle Gerald McCoy, the third overall pick.

My guess is it's going to be around a 5 year $50 Million dollar contract with anywhere from 30-35 guaranteed. Rolondo McClain got a 5 year $40 Mil with 23 guaranteed. I expect this to be done when camp opens tomorrow. 

Only McCoy and Virginia Tech defensive back Cody Grimm, a seventh-round pick, are unsigned.

Cody Grimm is also waiting to see what Bradford does. Reports are he is going to hold out for first-round money.

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"His assets have always been strength and power," Dominik said. "And you can't show that in shorts. It'll be interesting to see what he can do in training camp when the pads come on."

Benn has truly been the forgotten piece this off-season; being completely overshadowed by Mike Williams. I think we are all excited to see what he can bring to the team during this camp.

Dominik said he is unaware whether Penn intends to report on time. He said he hopes the contract impasse is resolved soon, but there have been no talks on an extension.

Enough with this crap, Dominik. I get he is overweight, you have a personal vendetta against Donald Penn and you aren't going to give him an extension. Stop going public with it though, you aren't gaining any leverage on Penn. It has now become an issue of pride between both parties. Seriously, at least offer him SOMETHING (even if it is an all-you-can-eat buffet)

Demar Dotson has taken most of the first-team reps at left tackle. Xavier Fulton and James Lee also will get a chance to win the job.

"Dotson has worked very hard," Dominik said. "A lot of it comes down to how he performs with his opportunity and reps at left tackle.

Anddddd this is why it is imperative that you get Penn in camp. The thought of starting Dotson at LT scares me. I don't care if he is a hard-worker. A fat Donald Penn is still better than a Demar Dotson option.

To note: I have been completely wrong about sliding Zuttah over and sticking a lesser piece on the inside (which makes for more sense to me).

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I don't think the team wants to rely on Zuttah

He was pretty bad as an LT last season when he played, though he played very little at that position.

I also don’t think you can paint this as some sort of vendetta against Penn. The team isn’t giving any of their RFAs contracts right now. I think ownership probably has a lot to do with that.

by Sander on Jul 29, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not trying to paint not giving him as a personal vendetta.

But you can’t question that Dominik has been out to get Penn this off-season. He won’t stop talking about it. You haven’t heard him even mention Ruud. Again, it’s a matter of pride.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Jul 29, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

errr "Not giving him a new contract"

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Jul 29, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's only natural not to mention Ruud

Because Ruud isn’t holding out to get a contract done.

Penn is basically the only source of controversy with the Bucs right now, so you’ll see Dominik speak more on Penn, if only because that’s what he’ll be asked about.

by Sander on Jul 29, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, the media plays a large part in it. I'm not pretending it doesn't

However, the fact remains that Dominik took his opinions on Penn public. To believe there is no source of conflict between the two is naive.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Jul 29, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course

At the very least it gives Penn’s agent a tiny bit of leverage.

But they’re both businessmen and I don’t think it’ll stand in the way of getting a contract done, eventually. The moment the owners or Dominik feel like throwing money at Penn, a deal will probably get done.

by Sander on Jul 29, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's going to cost us on the field though.

They can talk all they want about how hard Dotson is working, but the drop-off is going to be substantial. I would say that the leverage is definitely on Penn’s side, but Management seems oblivious to that.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Jul 29, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

That’s troubling to say the least. I hope Penn will either report or a deal will get done, but going into the season with Dotson at LT would be a disaster.

by Sander on Jul 29, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT?
Cody Grimm is also waiting to see what Bradford does. Reports are he is going to hold out for first-round money

A 7th rounder, wants 1st round money.

So you can keep knocking but won't knock me down
No love lost, no love found

by 4QB on Jul 29, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Lol

I think it was meant to be sarcasm. And if it wasn’t say goodbye to the NFL Grimm

Josh Freeman is Big Ben 2.0

by TheOneInRed on Jul 29, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was definitely in jest.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Jul 29, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You is horrible at Jest.

So you can keep knocking but won't knock me down
No love lost, no love found

by 4QB on Jul 29, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know it. Everything sounds way better in my head. Terrible delivery.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Jul 29, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was funny I mean the guy is getting alot of media coverage...

Working out, and fishing and what not … man this kid should get first round money … just like Keyser should get the open writers position.

Raheem Morris + 2010 = Buccaneer in the playoffs

by BucBurgh412 on Jul 29, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't listen to him

I thought it was funny. The Bradford deal should definitely set the parameters and framework of the Grimm deal

by CelticPride on Jul 29, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

:O

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense.

So you can keep knocking but won't knock me down
No love lost, no love found

by 4QB on Jul 29, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best excerpt from the article

I personally thought the bit about Cody Grimm holding out for 1st round money was genius. Still LMAO.

by Joe Grizzly on Jul 29, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, Welcome Bucs Nation.

So you can keep knocking but won't knock me down
No love lost, no love found

by 4QB on Jul 29, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Indeed!

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Jul 29, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

barf

"Training camp is a little different. To me, that's when you establish the men. You take off your underwear." Raheem Morris

by bucnut1 on Jul 29, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

My belief in the Ruud and Penn situation

Is that the Bucs still are evaluating those guys so they won’t make the same mistake they made by giving Clayton all that money. Why? The LT and MLB positions are crucial to the success of the offense and defense. In Penn and Ruud defense they have been solid production wise and they are durable.
I think they are waiting to see how Ruud quarterbacks this defense, and if the weight change effects Penn production. The only thing that does not back this is the fact that Penn lost the weight required of him and he still has no contract.

by keysersoze19 on Jul 29, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe the Bucs look at both them the same as I do, they're not as good as most of you think.

"Training camp is a little different. To me, that's when you establish the men. You take off your underwear." Raheem Morris

by bucnut1 on Jul 29, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea i'd say in reality they're both above average but not elite.

We just wish they were elite cause they’re the closet we have to elite lmao

Josh Freeman is Big Ben 2.0

by TheOneInRed on Jul 29, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The chicken or the egg...

Weight must not only come off – but needs to stay off. Conditioning is paramount, even as a big OT. To get tired, or carry too much weight, you will wear down and give up sacks, etc. Penn must begin to take is position, his conditioning, and his career more seriously.

Put down the pie and slowly back away…

by Cracker Ball on Jul 29, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Penn already lost the weight he was suppose to lose

And there are a lot of teams in the NFL who would not mind having Ruud or Penn start for their team

by keysersoze19 on Jul 30, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can have Ruud.

"Training camp is a little different. To me, that's when you establish the men. You take off your underwear." Raheem Morris

by bucnut1 on Jul 30, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

And start who?

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Jul 30, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

They get paid the big bucs to figure that out. :D

"Training camp is a little different. To me, that's when you establish the men. You take off your underwear." Raheem Morris

by bucnut1 on Jul 30, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are going to evaluate them out of ever wanting to play for Tampa.

I mean….How long do you evaluate a guy for? Until he is 38 and you say that his skills are no longer useful?

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Jul 29, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder

how the development of Rico Mccoy and Preston Parker is coming along

by keysersoze19 on Jul 31, 2010 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

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