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Bound for multiple holdouts?

We're but a few days away from the beginning of training camp and there is a continuing problem for many teams, including our own Tampa Bay Buccaneers.  That problem is one we've all heard about.  It is currently affecting both the offense and the defense.  The problem I'm referring to?  Holdouts.  They have become somewhat common, particularly for rookies as they attempt to negotiate the minefield and land themselves a guaranteed payday that most of us only dream about.  The veteran holdout seems to be threatened pretty often, but a peaceful solution (read: new contract or extension) is generally reached before it gets out of hand.

Well, for the Bucs, they are staring both the young and old holdouts square in the face. 

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Gerald McCoy is still unsigned at this point, and though discussions may be going on, it doesn't appear that they are in any hurry.  With the wait on for Bradford, his agent and the St. Louis Rams, McCoy (and Suh) won;t do a deal until they are slotted with Bradford's deal.  Now, we know these deals tend to get done at the 11th hour before training camp, so I'm pretty hopeful that McCoy is in camp on day 1. 

Penn on the other hand, well it just doesn't seem like either side wants to budge.  Though it's been publicly stated there is no bad blood, the weight comments and other assorted quotes attributed to the team have to have stung Donald Penn a little bit.  And while I'm not in the war room, there haven't been any rumblings of negotiations taking place.  Penn is currently not under contract so declaring him a hold out is probably the wrong wording.  But he is not with the team that still own the rights to him.

My personal guess is that McCoy is in camp no later than Day 2.  Penn on the other hand.  I could see this hitting Week 1 of the pre-season if no one is willing to take that first step. 

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If the McCoy holdout goes on for too long,

hopefully his love for football makes him realize the money should be something extra…. Who am I kidding? He’s already had too much exposure to the high-life. As he said himself, he wants as much money as he can get. Not a good first impression to the fans if you ask me.

Josh Freeman is Big Ben 2.0

by TheOneInRed on Jul 27, 2010 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh, I call it realistic

Anyone of us in his position would do the same thing. They might communicate it differently, but everyone’s going to try and get as much money as possible.

Anyway, latest reports seem to be that the Bradford will be done by thursday, so McCoy shouldn’t be that far behind. Though honestly I think he’ll be looking at the Suh deal more than he’ll be looking at the Bradford contract.

by Sander on Jul 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yea he wants as much money as possible just like everyone else would but

we all know he’s going to get a monster contract either way so will that $5 million really be that big of a deal to him? It shouldn’t if he takes football serious like a #3 overall pick should. I know it sounds foolish when u think about it. It’s still $5M i don’t have…

Josh Freeman is Big Ben 2.0

by TheOneInRed on Jul 27, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

He may be looking at Suh's deal more

but everyone gets slated based on Bradford. Suh will be looking at the Bradford deal, etc. etc. etc.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Jul 27, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better get use to it.

 I would do the same thing considering that Bradford hasn’t signed yet.

by Bucs on Jul 27, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Waiting on Bradford

I think everyone’s waiting to see Bradford’s haul. McCoy’s contract should just be fill in the numbers after the Ram’s sign Sam. I believe we should be giving in a little on the Penn situation. He is an above average LT and I am really worried about that side of our OL.

by buccer on Jul 27, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

The problem with Bradford is that he'll get a bonus based on his being a QB

Two years ago Matt Ryan got significantly more money than #1 overall Jake Long. That, in my opinion, will be a problem. Bradford will get a QB pay bump which McCoy will argue should benefit him, while the Bucs will argue that that has nothing to do with McCoy. That;s why I think Suh’s contract will be a lot more relevant.

by Sander on Jul 27, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no question that because he is a quarterback he will get more.

However, it sets the tone for every pick after him. Suh isn’t going to sign until Bradford because he won’t take a 6 million dollar contract if Bradford gets a 20 million dollar one.

Obviously these numbers are far off, but I’m just making a point.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Jul 27, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course

I don’t expect it a big problem, but it slightly complicates things. Still, the general contract size is already known so I can’t see it being more than a weeklong holdout if anything.

by Sander on Jul 27, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I've heard about a total of one first rounder signed (DBryant)

And he’s already made a fool of himself at camp :)

I’m not worried…

by CelticPride on Jul 27, 2010 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

It's funny that Bryant signed so early.

I figured that he would pull a Michael Crabtree.

by Bucs on Jul 27, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not the same person at all.

Bryant seems like a class act. His suspension may give him a bad rap, but it was more of the NCAA over-reacting to a minor situation.

"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault." ~ Jack Tatum

by MNeilson on Jul 27, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Dez seems like a good guy

But at the same time, he really seems to be a magnet for controversy. Most of it may be the media, like blowing up that not-carrying-pads stuff, but he has an uncanny nose for trouble.

by Sander on Jul 27, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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