With Price in tow, McCoy remains high priority to sign

No. 1 overall picks usually do, especially if they’re QBs.

Might be a bust. Might get career-ending injured. I’d go for everything I could get on that first contract too. How many chances do most people get in life to cash in? Zero. They’d be fools not to get the most they can.

This is why there desperately needs to be a rookie pay scale. They just don’t DESERVE that much money, but I can hardly blame them for shooting for it when the rules allow it.

at my car wash. I want to move up to squeegie boy.

LOL. I’ve thought the same thing a few times

until they change the soap they use because it makes me break out, my agent says theyre are plenty of other car washs that will hire me if I don’t get what I want

is that people are waiting to see if Owners are going to shell it out. Not necessarily how much McCoy thinks he will actually get. It just sets the scale.

Are you kidding me? The kid was a top high school recruit and was named as a top draft pick well before Suh burst onto the scene. The reason you think this is that Suh gobbled up all the hype in the months leading up to the draft, but

And honestly, the numbers are so so misleading. McCoy played far fewer snaps than Suh did and played with much better teammates (meaning that they often got sacks because of his play, while Suh mostly got his own sacks but created few for his lackluster teammates). Suh’s numbers look more impressive, but turn on the tape and McCoy is just as impressive.

Suh is a great player, but he relies on brute strength and not so much on technique, which can be a major problem if he can’t get the technique down. McCoy on the other hand was easily the most polished DT coming into the draft, with tremendous quickness and good technique. Equating him to Gaines Adams (RIP) is just silly, since McCoy is much more versatile and a lot more polished. Gaines only had his speed move, McCoy can do so much more.

And bench press as a measurement stick: hah. He’s not going to benching 225 over and over and over again, he’s going to be going up against well over 350lbs once per play. Repetitive bench pressing of low numbers has very little to do with total strength. Not to mention that lower body strength is a lot more important to a DT than upper body strength, and bench presses don’t measure that. All that number should tell you is that he didn’t train specifically for the combine bench press event.

Then look at what you’re saying: Suh is a physical freak so he’ll be a Hall of Famer, barring injury. I can create a gigantic list of physical freaks who dominated in college because of that, but failed completely in the NFL. There are a lot of cases of that happening at every position.

And just in case you’re wondering: I’ve been saying this since february at least, I’m not just saying this because he’s now a Buc. Let Suh and McCoy get out on the field and then we’ll see who’s better in the NFL.

This is clearly a “free market” society, but these salaries are just ludicrous. I think this may be the markets way of fighting back…

Go Bucs.

Their youth and potential make them more valuable to teams, and that’s what teams are paying for.

And the NFLPA would love to drop the rookie contracts. They’re not the ones signing these huge contracts for those rookies. The problem is that they don’t want the total money spent on players to decline – they want the money saved by a rookie wage scale to go into veteran paychecks. It makes sense for them to want that, because the NFLPA only represents current players – the people who aren’t hurt by a rookie wage scale because they’ve already been drafted.

The NFL says it’s because of dwindling profits, the NFLPA says “Pah” until the NFL opens their books, which they haven’t done so far. That’s the only reason we’re talking about a holdout right now: the NFL wants to cut player salaries.

As for the rookie contracts: I’m simply stating what motivates the NFLPA (that union you want to bust up). They aren’t motivated by the interests of people who aren’t their members (current college players), they’re motivated by the interests of people who pay them: current NFL players, in other words people who would benefit from moving money from the rookie contracts to veteran contracts. The NFLPA wants to get a rookie wage scale in place, but they don’t want to lose overall salary paid to players.

Lastly, there’s no obligation for the NFL to pay these rookies so much money. It’s something the NFL has done itself. There’s no contract with the NFLPA that says “we pay rookies at least this much money”. In fact it’s quite the opposite as there is a rookie salary cap for each team. What has happened is that in competing for rookie salaries, teams value high potential extremely highly. The vast majority of the big money the teams are complaining about gets made in the top 10 draft picks, not the 246 other players selected in a draft.

Why would they lower prices if they don’t need to? If they free up more money the owners will simply keep it or invest it in bigger stadiums and the like.

The idea of passing savings back onto the customers is non-existent. Either they lower prices because it’ll bring in more money overall (by increasing sales) or they keep prices the same because that’s more profitable.

But that’s a separate issue, really. Demand is what determines ticket prices, separately from how much money the owners are making. The owners making more money in other ways (by, for instance, paying players less) won’t directly affect the demand for the tickets. It isn’t until people start staying away because the team is uncompetitive that such moves start affecting ticket prices.

But I doubt it. Once the economy picks up again demand for tickets will be as high as ever. With the insane waiting lists for season tickets some of these teams have, there’s no reason to think they’re charging so much that people will stay away from the games. Or at least, the people that do stay away because they can’t afford aren’t much of a concern for the owners because there are simply many more people out there who would pay that amount of money. I don’t see the current state of the NFL as economically unhealthy or unsustainable, really, but it’s impossible to say for sure without seeing the books.

I disagree that cutting player costs would help, by the way. If they cut player costs they’ll have more money, but why would that cause them to lower prices? Unless they think they’re alienating a large part of their fanbase, which I don’t think they are. If they go through the trouble to increase their profits through cost-cutting, why would they decrease it by cutting ticket prices?