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Craig T's Pre-Combine First Round Mock Draft


With one week and counting until the NFL Combine gets rolling from Indianapolis, now is as good a time as any for our first mock draft.  Since trades are virtually unpredictable, I'm not going to try to guess them.  It'd be kind of like trying to guess what the weather will be like in 2 months.  Instead, I will try to make my best estimate of what each team might do from their current draft slots. 

Of course, things are certainly subject to change once we see who wows us with their 40 times, who can throw up 225 30+ times....and who can leap over a small car on youtube!  Like it or not, and although I don't think peripheral combine exercises necessarily equate to success in the league by any means, it does give players some attention and bump their stock up.  However, this is where I see things right now.

I encourage you all to submit your own comments/changes/mocks in the comment section.  Without further ado.......

 

1. St. Louis Rams - QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma.  Suh or Bradford....Bradford or Suh.  So much of the draft is dictated by what the Rams do here. Will the Rams select a QB #1 and pay all that guaranteed money? They'd probably love to trade down a spot or two, but it could be more difficult than folks imagine.  Given the lack of assets and extra draft picks they have to engineer a pre-draft trade for a viable starting QB, and with Keith Null and Kyle Boller as possibly the only incumbent signal callers come draft time, this could be a decision they have to make for their future.  Of course, like all picks, this could change drastically based on combine and individual offseason workouts.  If they take Bradford, they could target a guy like Terrence Cody at the top of the 2nd round.   If they select Suh, they could go for a guy like Texas QB Colt McCoy or Cincy QB Tony Pike at the start of the 2nd round.  So many options for the Rams...

2. Detroit Lions - DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska.  Although the Lions might give Okung a serious look, you've got to start adding stars to that defense at some point, right?  There might be no one more talented and with more all-pro potential in this draft than Suh.  It's possible, with the second pick of the second round, to nab a first-round talent on the offensive line.

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3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma.  The Bucs get their guy in McCoy, who should thrive in the Tampa 2 system.  S Eric Berry and ILB Rolando McClain are very attractive options, but improving the defensive line is a bigger area of need.

4. Washington Redskins - OT Russell Okung, Oklahoma State.  Pressure was a significant part of the reason behind Jason Campbell's struggles, so he might get some help.  Skins undoubtedly looking for their next Chris Samuels.  Jimmy Clausen could get consideration as well.

5. Kansas City Chiefs - ILB Rolando McClain, Alabama.  Not a complete no-brainer with talent like Joe Haden and Eric Berry on the board, but the Chiefs need an overhaul on defense and McClain would bring a physical presence and attitude in the heart of that defense.

6. Seattle Seahawks - QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame.  The Seahawks have to take one of the remaining two stud QBs if one is still there, so Clausen would be a steal for them here.  The battered and bruised Matt Hasselbeck is on his last leg and Seneca Wallace has shown next to nothing.  Clausen could be the future in Seattle.

7. Cleveland Browns - S Eric Berry, Tennesssee.  The Browns, like many teams near the top of the draft, have many holes to fill.  A guy like Eric Berry gives them an incredibly diverse defender who can step into any position in the secondary and perform well.   

8. Oakland Raiders - DE Derrick Morgan, Georgia TechGreg Ellis isn't getting any younger and a long-term deal with Richard Seymour isn't in place.  Morgan could be the top-rated pass rusher by draft day and, if so, would be a good value pick here.

9. Buffalo Bills - OT Bryan Bulaga, Iowa.  They need offensive line help in the worst way, especially after the sudden retirement of RT Brad Butler, and a physical, run-blocking OT like Bulaga would upgrade one side of the line for the Buffalo offense and give the running game a big boost.  OTs Trent Williams and Anthony Davis are also possibilities. 

10. Denver Broncos - DT Dan Williams, Tennessee. May be a bit of a reach here, but Williams has the size (around 330 lbs) to clog interior running lanes and slow down opposing rushing attacks.  He should help anchor the middle of a Bronco defensive front that got trucked over the last part of the 2009 season. 

11. Jacksonville Jaguars - CB Joe Haden, Florida.  Althought DE still remains an area lacking production, the Jags may look to give ends Derrick Harvey and Quentin Groves a little more time to blossom.  Haden, as the top-rated cover corner, would be good value here.  Perhaps not the Gator that some want to see Jacksonville take in the first round, but he should step into the starting spot immediately at corner in a secondary that allowed the 6th-most passing YPG in 2009.  This could push Rashean Mathis to safety and improve two positions at once.  A need pick when facing Manning-to-Wayne/Garcon and Schaub-to-Andre-Johnson a total of four times per year.  DEs Carlos Dunlap or Jason Pierre-Paul are possibilities.

12. Miami Dolphins - WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State.  The Ted Ginn, Jr. experiment has failed and the Fins lack a playmaking, go-to WR in an otherwise decent offense.  Bryant would step right in and be that lifeline for Chad Henne.

13. San Francisco 49ersOT Anthony Davis, Rutgers. They need offensive line help, and a mountain of a man like OT Anthony Davis (who's dropped to around 325 pounds from 368 at one time) would do well here.

14. Seattle Seahawks - OT Trent Williams, Oklahoma.  A great year for offensive tackles lends well to teams in the top half of the draft, and Seattle more likely will take advantage as well by snaring Williams.  I think CJ Spiller is also a significant possibility here, but Forsett's emergence may convince the Seahawks to first seek protection for Hasselbeck or whatever young buck they run out there.

15. New York Giants - ILB Brandon Spikes, Florida. With safety and linebacker as such pressing needs, the Giants could go a number of directions here.  OLB Sergio Kindle is a distinct possibility, and DBs Earl Thomas and Taylor Mays could be in play.  However, the departure of Antonio Pierce creates a gaping void in the middle of that defense that will have to be replaced by an inspiring, physical, playmaking presence.  Brandon Spikes appears to be the perfect guy to fill that position.

16. Tennessee Titans - DE Jason Pierre-Paul, South Florida.  Could go Carlos Dunlap here, but Titans had enough off-the-field headaches with Pacman Jones.  Pierre-Paul might have the most All-Pro raw potential out of all DEs in the draft.  Question is....can they get it out of him?

17. San Francisco 49ers  - RB CJ Spiller, Clemson.  Dynamic player that could run between the tackles and split out in routes, giving the Niners a formidable thunder-and-lighting RB combination with Frank Gore.  Would also be a lethal return man.

18. Pittsburgh Steelers - S Taylor Mays, USC.  The Steeler defense hit the skids last year when the oft-injured Polamalu missed significant time to injury.  Mays, while certainly not considered to be the safety with the best ball skills in this draft class, is an outstanding hitter that could be a redux of Polamalu in run support .  O-line is also a possibility here...perhaps a multi-positional guy like Mike Iupati.

19. Atlanta FalconsDB Earl Thomas, Texas.  The Falcons seriously need depth on their defensive line, but Atlanta can't pass on adding a versatile player like Earl Thomas , who they can plug in anywhere in their shaky secondary.

20. Houston Texans - G Mike Iupati, IdahoTexans need a boost to their 30th-ranked running game, and, rather than add yet another back to their overstocked roster, they could upgrade the interior of that line with arguably the best interior linemen in the draft, big offensive guard Mike Iupati.  At 6-5, 325 pounds, Iupati would give the Texans the flexibility of moving him to tackle in a pinch if needed.

21. Cincinnati Bengals - TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma.  The top-ranked tight end would fit with the Bengal offense like franks and beans.  He'd be a great weapon for Carson Palmer in the middle of the field. 

22. New England Patriots - OLB Sergio Kindle, Texas.  An explosive player with a nose for the ballcarrier, Kindle should become the heir apparent to Adalius Thomas on the edge of that 3-4 defense.

23. Green Bay Packers - OT Bruce Campbell, Maryland.  OT keeps flying off the board, and after the Packer offensive line's porous play nearly put Aaron Rodgers in the hospital multiple times last year, getting better on the line is a must for Green Bay.  Campbell carries a few less lb's than the previously-mentioned tackles and he has less experience than other tackles (17 career starts at Maryland), but he's got the quickness to become a good pass-blocker, which is a premium in the Packer offense.

24. Philadelphia Eagles - DE Brandon Graham, Michigan.  It's all about pressure and getting in the backfield with the Philly defense, and the defensive MVP of the senior bowl, who led the nation last year in tackles-for-loss, can do just that and would be an ideal threat opposite Trent Cole.  DE Carlos Dunlap also worth consideration.

25. Baltimore Ravens - WR Golden Tate, Notre Dame.  The total package at WR...incredible hands, solid routes, good speed.  He will become a solid NFL player and give Flacco a reliable target.

26. Arizona Cardinals - OLB Ricky Sapp, Clemson.  With a possible exodus of Cardinal LBs taking place in the next couple of years, Sapp could step in and take over in at the OLB spot flanking Calais Campbell, giving the Cardinals an explosive left side of their defense.

27. Dallas Cowboys - ILB Daryl Washington, TCU.  Logical long-term solution in the middle with Keith Brooking on the backside of his career and Bobby Carpenter only being used in passing down situations.  Washington is an impressive specimen that can cover well and hold his own against the run. 

28. San Diego Chargers - RB Jonathan Dwyer, Georgia Tech.  With LT almost certainly on the way out of town, Dwyer is, at worst, an excellent insurance policy for Darren Sproles and could certainly win the starting job.  CB is also in play here due to Cromartie's potential departure (perhaps FSU CB Robinson?).

29. New York Jets - WR DeMaryius Thomas, Georgia Tech.  Thomas would move Cotchery into the slot, giving the Jets a formidable receiving trio.  Moreover, Thomas is a physical, hard-nosed run-blocker who's used to spending the majority of the game blocking, which is what he would be expected to do in Rex Ryan's offense.

30. Minnesota Vikings - S Chad Jones.  May not have the one-on-one man cover skills of Earl Thomas, but is very fast, has good ball skills, and can hit hard.  Could end up being the second-best safety in this class when all is said and done. 

31. Indianapolis Colts - OLB Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri.  Could replace Philip Wheeler and give the Colts a volatile LB trio of Weatherspoon, Gary Brackett, and Clint Session.

32. New Orleans Saints - DT/DE Jared Odrick, Penn State.  A versatile player who could adapt to Gregg Williams' versatile defensive schemes.  Has an explosive first step that could put him as a 3-4 defensive end.  Also, as the Saints employ some 4-man fronts, he has the size to step in at the tackle position next to Sedrick Ellis. 

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Ahh man

I like that we get McCoy but why did you have to be so mean to Berry…putting anyone on the Browns is just mean.

by Trobes05 on Feb 21, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

Hey, I'm a Vol fan

so putting Berry on Cleveland wasn’t easy. Just kidding, Cleveland fans. We have little room to be casting stones here.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I like it

Just a few notes. I think Clausen is closer to Bradford than you portray him to be, and a lot will depend on the combine and how Bradford’s physicals turn out. I’d say Clausen and Bradford are about as close together as McCoy and Suh.

I think you give Al Davis too much credit with Derrick Morgan, I think that if he takes a DE there he’s going to reach for the quick, freak athlete: Jason Pierre-Paul. He did the same thing last year when he picked the athlete WR over the the good WR. Another option there would be Taylor Mays – another athlete who will do well in the combine.

by Sander on Feb 21, 2010 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

sean meriweather? to IND

That supposed to be sean weatherspoon?

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 21, 2010 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

Yep, late night brain cramp.

Fixed. Thanks for the edit.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, I don't think rams

Pass up on Suh, i know they need a QB, but lets face it; you build a team from the inside out, and Suh is a beast! Put him next to Long and they might win more than a game or 2. Then next year get the QB Locker (who they wanted anyways)

by shadowchicken on Feb 21, 2010 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe they take Suh...

… but they take the chance of losing out on Locker (kinda like we did on Suh this year). We shall see, but I bet they end up drafting a QB or trading with us after all.

by Cracker Ball on Feb 21, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly anythin' can happen

Canna be puttin’ th’ treasure in th’ bank fer next voyage. Rams ortin’ ta take a QB tho only if they b’lieve he be definitely goin’ t’ be the’r scurvy dog.

From Yer Scurvy Dog SRQman

by SRQman on Feb 21, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yarrrrrr.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

They already have Carriker and Long

And they’re not going to win any games with the QBs they have. They must have a new QB this year, and everyone realizes that. The only reason not to get a QB is because Suh is so extraordinarily good that he can rebuild the franchise. But a good QB wins you many more games than a good DT does.

Anything can happen, though, and a lot of recent mock drafts have them taking a QB.

by Sander on Feb 21, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Good points.

There probably would be a quality DT at the start of the 2nd round. Obviously everything depends on how Bradford and Clausen perform this offseason and if the Rams rate either of them significantly above the rest of the QB pack. If so, I think that particular QB would be the way they go.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think anyone would be shocked if the Rams go QB or DT

Recent history has shown that QB’s can be found anywhere and groomed. Big, explosive DT’s, not so much.

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by Buc Wild on Feb 21, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Possibly so.

However, getting a stud QB that you consider to be your QB-of-the future is always the brass ring that every franchise is shooting for. If they rate him as their guy and see him as the future, I think they have to take him. I agree with what Sander said….generally speaking, in a vacuum, a stud QB can win you more games than a stud DT.

Regardless of what they do, they need someone semi-competent to move that slow-as-molasses offense.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like

all of the qb’s have too many problems, so the rams wont take one with the first pick

by KILLIN IT on Feb 21, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

What problems?

With whom?

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

He'll have to prove he's healthy before the draft,

but there’s no medical report or story that’s been leaked indicating there’s a serious problem.

What’s wrong with Clausen?

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm no expert either.

What’s the old phrase….“I just play one on the radio”? Ha.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

They will certainly be looking for one....

….with the weak WR lineup they currently have behind Bryant and the distinct possibility of losing Bryant to FA, WR is at the top of their offensive draft needs.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

My biggest beef on Clausen when I watched him at ND

was the seemingly lack of leadership and how most throws came off the backfoot or without getting into a throw. Some QB’s can do that, but I don’t know that I trust that at the NFL level. But he certainly has the tools it seems, he just needs to be worked with, like most college QB’s

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by Buc Wild on Feb 22, 2010 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

is healed

Just like Suh’s knee’s. Several of these guy’s have had injuries. If they are healed then it’s not likely to hurt them much. Bradford is legit as a #1pick. That’s not to say he will be picked there but he has the talent to be picked there. Clausen played in a pro style offense but doesn’t come close to bradford physically.

"big-time players make big-time plays in big games."

by SoonerSlayer on Feb 22, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Golden Tate?

I like him but i don’t think he has franchise reciever written all over him. I would suggest Damian Willams or Brandon Lafell.

by 4QB on Feb 21, 2010 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

I can't keep these WRs apart

From all the coverage I’ve read and seen they’re all the same except for Dez Bryant, who’s nutso insane, and Jordan Shipley, who’s Wes Welker.

by Sander on Feb 21, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Why those guys?

What’s wrong with Tate? He is a great, not a good, a great route runner. That, plus his impressive quicks, help him get separation on mid-range routes. He played in a pro-style offense under Weis. Not top-flight, but pretty good speed. I agree that his height, under 6 feet, is not ideal, but the guy just made plays and produced consistently.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess- Earlier Scouting Reports

said his speed was a concern. Newer one’s said that he has more speed. I really like D.Williams scouting report. Brandon Lafell is more developed height wise as a franchise reciever. If you want more, scouting reports- i will give you more.

by 4QB on Feb 21, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I want you to tell me why they'd be a better fit.

Your thoughts. I can read a scouting report.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, this might take a while- so hang on.

I need to know everything about the system and what not.

Second Fav. NFL Team- The chiefs

by 4QB on Feb 21, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, If you want to know more specifically- The Ravens

Mark Clayton (5’10 height) right now is what the ravens have as their #2 WR behind Derrick Mason (who is also 5’10). Unfortunately, he suffers from a bad case of the dropsies. With Mark Clayton, Joe Flacco has been unable to throw the ball efficiently. If Brandon Lafell for example would be in Baltimore, Flacco has a 6’3 reciever to throw to without worrying about taller corner’s covering his WR’s. This is what i could get without looking at their intangibles- I have to speak to more ravens fans about this but just my thoughts.

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by 4QB on Feb 21, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

In other words,

You could have a taller Anquan Boldin (type) WR in Lafell to help Flacco grow.

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by 4QB on Feb 21, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Brandon LaFell is a straight-line runner

with good speed and good hands, I’ll say that. However, he’s not a particularly agile receiver and is slow out of the break on his routes. I think he’ll be decent, but don’t know if he’ll become a good player.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

You make this fun to argue.

I’ll continue as soon as i find more data.

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by 4QB on Feb 21, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

My youtube is screwed up for some reason, so I can't see what you've linked.

I’ve watched some vid on him. He certainly is a YAC guy. He reminds me very much of his LSU predecessor, Devery Henderson….a guy with good size and speed that can hurt you deep….or if he catches a ball in space, can turn it up for a big gain.

He’s got the speed to get separation deep, but I’m not sure he’s got the route-running skills and ability to get consistent separation on your standard 5-15 yard routes against tough, aggressive top-flight cover corners in man coverage.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That and eventually

I thought of doing this but i want to know what makes an offense? a good QB or a good WR.

Lafell was playing with sophomores and Freshmen for QB’s.
Tate was playing with Clausen and Weis as an offensive mastermind.

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by 4QB on Feb 21, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

An offense is made

by the system employed and the skill of those particular players implemented to fit that system. Some players fit into more systems due to their versatility and some are more limited by their specific skill sets in one area and deficiencies in others.

When I watch Lafell run his routes and go into his breaks, I see a player who I think will develop more into a boom-or-bust player rather than a lightning-quick, fluid, route-running, explosive #1 WR. Do I see that in Tate? I don’t know. I do think he’s the kind of WR to get himself open much more regularly on a play-to-play basis than Lafell.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

He seems like most LSU WR's at this point

Does some things well but will ultimately fall short of making a huge impact at the NFL level.

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by Buc Wild on Feb 22, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

?

Why would I hate it? Maybe you should read my comments again. I just don’t like people parroting statistics without bringing their own thoughts into the discussion.

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them how you please." - Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on Feb 21, 2010 10:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No, Earlier i was arguing with you about

Arrelious Benn. You said that: “Please don’t bring youtube because it is not a valid argument for judging players.” I thought you didn’t like it.

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by 4QB on Feb 21, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

My fault

Replaced:

"Please don’t bring youtube as a source because it is not a valid argument for judging players."

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by 4QB on Feb 21, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Could you give me the link to the thread

where I supposedly said that. I just did a comments search and couldn’t find it. Please don’t paraphrase my comments like that. I mean I guess I might have said that one night while I was buzzed or something, but I am 95 percent sure that I didn’t.

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them how you please." - Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on Feb 21, 2010 11:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So you replaced something I never said, with something else I never said? Classy

Just because you put it in a gray box doesn’t mean I said it. I just searched every comment with the word youtube in it, and I never said anything remotely close to that. In the future please refrain from misquoting me, and if and when you do, own up to it.

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them how you please." - Mark Twain

by LeeCaz on Feb 22, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, 1st- I quoted Myself

2nd- You did say this:

please, don’t give me the youtube link again. Most of the plays in that highlight video were not from this past season. He has lost a step or enthusiasm for the game of something. His numbers this year were horrible. Can’t blame it all on Juice or the offense though. Zook was there when he had successful seasons too.

Link: http://www.bucem.com/2010/1/30/1284444/some-thoughts-and-questions-at-the#30071581

3rd- I was quoting a summary of what you wrote without looking at it.

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by 4QB on Feb 22, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh no. My bad if that is what you thought I was saying

My problem with that vid was that most of the highlights were from a couple of years ago. He had a huge dropoff last year. He didn’t seem like the same player at all (to me at least)

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by LeeCaz on Feb 21, 2010 11:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The best thing about him is his height doesn't matter.

He goes up to get the ball at the highest point. Being 6’4" doesn’t mean anything if you can’t utilize that advantage.

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by Buc Wild on Feb 21, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

i live in So Cal

And i don’t really like Damian Willams

by shadowchicken on Feb 24, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

BUCS DRAFT TALK

How about the bucs trading down a few spots and getting a couple more picks to fill ALL of the holes we have on both sides of the ball?

by KILLIN IT on Feb 21, 2010 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

That's a possibility.

I think that happens only if both the DT’s are off the board.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

No, didn't say that.

I think the only way the Bucs trade down is if both DTs are gone. If both are gone, then the Bucs will have to evaluate any trade offers against taking a guy like Berry. Depends on the offer and how high they rate Berry, which is sure to be significantly high.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

i havent seen much of eric berry…does he project to be in the class of sean taylor or ed reed coming out of college?

by KILLIN IT on Feb 21, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Many "pundits" claim he is,

but who knows for sure. Those are exceptional, generation-type players. Berry is incredibly versatile and can play any position in the secondary at a solid level.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

bc we know both dt’s are going to come off the board….

by KILLIN IT on Feb 21, 2010 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

Before the 3rd pick?

Maybe, maybe not. The Rams and Lions are both wrought with problems. They have gaping holes in key positions and razor thin depth. The Rams have two mediocre players and some pocket lint to show for their QB situation, so that’s a huge, huge need. The Lions need O-line help terribly to protect their battered franchise QB, and Okung probably rates as a player worth selecting that high.

While it’s absolutely possible both DTs could go off the board quickly, it’s not a certainty by any means.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Random Bucs ?

when do the single game tickets go on sale, im trying to get tickets asap to get good deals on plane tix?! lol

by KILLIN IT on Feb 21, 2010 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

No, I'm engaging in draft discussions in this thread.

And I have no idea what it will take to get him, for what it’s worth.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd say there is about a 10% chance, if that.

The Chargers would have to want one of our 3 backs. Problem is, none are young or explosive. Cadillac is a good back, but we know his history and isn’t the guy who breaks long runs in the 1st quarter. Graham and Ward are getting on the old side. I doubt SD sends Cromartie here unless its for Ward and a high pick.

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by Buc Wild on Feb 22, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree.

Cannons... fire them.

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by Craig T on Feb 22, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

Why would they want any of our back’s?

"big-time players make big-time plays in big games."

by SoonerSlayer on Feb 22, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Two Yellowjackets in the first round!

I love it. Very nice mock you have composed here Craig. I think Clausen would be a great fit in Seattle. If he somehow slips to ten do you think McDaniels might pull the trigger. Orton played well last year, but I think that if they drafted a marquee quarterback then it might help ease the sting of cutlers departure, plus he would probably prefer to work with a qb that has studied under weis, given their history together in New England.

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by LeeCaz on Feb 21, 2010 11:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I think it's a possibility.

I don’t think Kyle Orton is the guy that’s gonna get you over the hump as a franchise, and Chris Simms, as we all know, is their backup. I think Clausen would be very attractive to them as a guy with the potential to become a great player and add a dynamic element to their offense.

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by Craig T on Feb 21, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Much appreciated, amigo.

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by Craig T on Feb 22, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

FLAGGED DUE TO LACK OF PIRATE TALK.

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by Buc Wild on Feb 22, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

ARR Matey

I be walking the plank

From Yer Scurvy Dog SRQman

by SRQman on Feb 22, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Im happiest with McCoy, and also just as happy with Berry...

but I give up on asking for a player after last year. I detested our #1 pick on draft day. Of course after 5 minutes I decided he is a Buc now and you never know, and now I think hes the best QB this team has drafted since Doug Williams, and maybe better.

So what do I know….

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by Niko Houllis on Feb 22, 2010 3:00 AM EST reply actions  

Just wondering

For the six round pick is Greg hardy DE from ole miss he would fit in Tampa 2 but I would like to see Moore and Bennett play more this year and hope they wasn’t a bust to me Bennett is a bad cat and Moore never seen him do any thing good when he was playing and hardy in the mix man that would be tight

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by WE GOING TO THE SHIP on Feb 22, 2010 5:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Great Mock

It’s good to see people put some thought into it. Most just want to have the Dt’s then berry 1-3. History tells us that things change as we get closer to the draft. The Rams taking Bradford is a very strong possibility. I also think you have Berry slotted right. Although I hear several teams like him as a corner. If that’s true I think that makes him more valuable. Thank’s for putting this together.

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by SoonerSlayer on Feb 22, 2010 9:03 AM EST reply actions  

Kinda depends on his combine workout...

… and how teams view his work ethic. Has talent for sure, but is his head screwed on straight? I bet he end up toward the end of Round 1 (although, no one really knows what Al Davis will do).

by Cracker Ball on Feb 22, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Hugs and Kisses
Not to say the Rams and Bucs couldn’t one day make a trade, but so far their conversations have been as extensive as mine and Tiger’s.

Any truth to the Rams/Bucs blockbuster deal? … This trade is as close as I am to being the No. 1 overall pick.


One other Tim Tebow note: He will not throw at this week’s scouting combine, waiting to work out on his pro day March 17.

Who else?

Second Fav. NFL Team- The chiefs

by 4QB on Feb 22, 2010 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

unrealistic

ok. so this is probably unrealistic. But we have 10 picks. I would love to get both Eric Berry and Gerald McCoy and become “the dominant defense” in the NFL.

by lilbunnywabbitt on Feb 22, 2010 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

Looks ok to me

I dont care about most of the other teams so they might have a problem with their picks, but they look good to me.

I hope the Dolphins dont draft a WR with thier first pick. Defense needs a lot more help. I have heard that Parcells doesnt draft WR that high, not sure if its true. Also Jevon Bess turned it on crazy bad arse last season. Look for him to become a pro bowler soon. So Dez wouldnt be a bad pick because hes probably the best talent at that spot, but we dont need him like everyone thinks. Also Ted Ginn was just a goof pick, like DHB was last year.

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by Hook85 on Feb 22, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

Correction

  —-Davone Bess

"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
*They are typos, get over it*

by Hook85 on Feb 23, 2010 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

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